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The Afghanistan Parenthesis [Updated]
Commented Dec 02, 2009 at 14:23:31 in World
“When is political self-preservation and heeding the advice of ground commanders a crime? You seem to be stating that one must be mutually exclusive of the other, and any attempt to reconcile the two is immoral or unjust. I don't agree. Speeches are fleeting and don't necessarily reflect the day to day politics of foreign wars. I, for one, accept the premise that we need to enact a surge as well as plan for the eventual withdrawal from Afghanistan. It is not showing weakness or enabling our enemy further. It is political prudency, and those who complain about the dual nature of this kind of political message typically do so from the comfort of their arm-chairs without ever having stepped foot in the President's shoes. Gary Jacobs, a prominent political scientist once said (and I paraphrase) that most citizens expect political expediency with political perfection, never once considering that the goal is much harder to achieve than most believe. At the very least, offer the President some deference for what seems to be an extraordinarily complex problem located half-a-world away.”
mounthood replied on Dec 02, 2009 at 19:16:21
“Military intelligence is an oxymoron. If generals had any semblance of brains they'd get a real job instead of strutting around like uniformed martinets. Presidents should know better than take their advice.”
Jannsmoor replied on Dec 02, 2009 at 14:56:58
“The President's speech was fraught with problems that outreach faith. First, of course, is the fact the Karzai government is the second most corrupt government in the world. We are propping up the second most corrupt government in the world. It will collapse the year we leave. Second, unless we are willing to conquer Afghanistan, and that entails killing millions of people, we will never change the social fabric of the people. We cannot even change the corruption of its government. Third, you assume Taliban equates to Al Qaeda. This may or may not be true. For all we know, the Taliban may be sick of Al Qaeda and will discourage their presence. Fourth, where is the cost benefit analysis? What benefit can we realistically expect for the cost we will bear? Fifth, why are we weakening America financially to fight a war when that money could do so much more to create jobs here where they're needed? Sixth . . . well I hope by now you get the picture.”
Journalism 2009: Desperate Metaphors, Desperate Revenue Models, And The Desperate Need For Better Journalism
Commented Dec 01, 2009 at 14:40:12 in Media
“Great post, Arianna! Succinct and powerful.”
More Palin Lies: The Trooper in 'Troopergate' Breaks His Silence
Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 23:43:14 in Politics
“It reads like the work of a high-school sophomore -- a low-achieving one.”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?
Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 02:37:55 in Politics
“The premise of the question is all wrong.
The unemployment problem is systematic, and has been in the making for decades. As we move from a manufacturing economy to an information-based one, there will be large segments of unemployed as the system adjusts.
The solution isn't as simple as sending in the military with boats and heavy vehicles to quickly mobilize basic living essentials -- it's far more complex and will many years to correct. By framing this problem as a possible Katrina very much misses the history that went into the making of this problem, and certainly misunderstands the proper framework this problem requires in order to be repaired.”
The unemployment problem is systematic, and has been in the making for decades. As we move from a manufacturing economy to an information-based one, there will be large segments of unemployed as the system adjusts.
The solution isn't as simple as sending in the military with boats and heavy vehicles to quickly mobilize basic living essentials -- it's far more complex and will many years to correct. By framing this problem as a possible Katrina very much misses the history that went into the making of this problem, and certainly misunderstands the proper framework this problem requires in order to be repaired.”
Pupadup4oBama replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:48:51
“well said!”
Bucket-Of-Love replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 04:28:44
“What about the expansion of the banking sector besides the move to an information-based economy? Banking was allowed to grow to 21% of the GDP (from somewhere about 7%). The sale of financially engineered, but faulty, products (read about David X. Li), which, I believe, was largely enabled by the deregulation that led directly to the banking expansion, is a massive example of moving away from manufacturing. Though these products were know to be faulty (see Frontline video Behind the Meltdown), and the practices involved in selling them has been regarded as predatory (read Galbraith), the banking sector was allowed to grow to 21% of the GDP, which was irresponsible. for should It fall, it'll try to take the rest of the economy with it.
We now know that this expanded banking activity wasn't growth, and we know that propping up, first, those with influence, e.g., banks, doesn't necessarily lead to trickle down wealth. A debt-bubble was enabled, and significant proportions of the existing middle-class, under current conditions, may either never emerge from overwhelming debt or will be buried by it. Add to that the reality of continued lack of jobs, a result of the economy that fell on the collapse of an over-speculated credit market.
A part of the decades long problem is that this was really closer to a risk-free speculation that has, and will continue to, put money into the hands of the banks.”
We now know that this expanded banking activity wasn't growth, and we know that propping up, first, those with influence, e.g., banks, doesn't necessarily lead to trickle down wealth. A debt-bubble was enabled, and significant proportions of the existing middle-class, under current conditions, may either never emerge from overwhelming debt or will be buried by it. Add to that the reality of continued lack of jobs, a result of the economy that fell on the collapse of an over-speculated credit market.
A part of the decades long problem is that this was really closer to a risk-free speculation that has, and will continue to, put money into the hands of the banks.”
CaptainVideo replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 02:49:44
“"The unemployment problem is systematic, and has been in the making for decades"
We has a very mild recession until the financial system had the meltdown. Therefore most of the unemployment cannot be ascribed to a systematic problem that has been making for decades. The proximate cause of the high unemployment is deficient aggregate demand, which in turn was caused by the meltdown of the financial system and the collapse of housing prices.
Thefore the solution is to provide a strong monetary and fiscal stimulus to aggregate demand.”
We has a very mild recession until the financial system had the meltdown. Therefore most of the unemployment cannot be ascribed to a systematic problem that has been making for decades. The proximate cause of the high unemployment is deficient aggregate demand, which in turn was caused by the meltdown of the financial system and the collapse of housing prices.
Thefore the solution is to provide a strong monetary and fiscal stimulus to aggregate demand.”
Viper replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 02:48:03
“WEll Dali....
Thats the Reagan nonsense that was spread in the late 1980s and early 1990s...
That we did not need to produce things.. we could procxess the worlds informatio n... now being done in India if you have not noticed.
Thats easier to outsource than even MFG! We import more technology than we export. And by the way not everyone will want to or is suited to sitting at a computer all day long...
In the last 8 years only 25% of our graduates in engineering and the sceinces have found josb int hose areas.. which dispells the idea we can just process informatio n.'
Those that were retrained in computer programmig in the 90s.. are now unemployed.
Pls look to germany as an example of how to make things and pay high wages!
Regards
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Thats the Reagan nonsense that was spread in the late 1980s and early 1990s...
That we did not need to produce things.. we could procxess the worlds informatio
Thats easier to outsource than even MFG! We import more technology than we export. And by the way not everyone will want to or is suited to sitting at a computer all day long...
In the last 8 years only 25% of our graduates in engineering and the sceinces have found josb int hose areas.. which dispells the idea we can just process informatio
Those that were retrained in computer programmig in the 90s.. are now unemployed.
Pls look to germany as an example of how to make things and pay high wages!
Regards
'
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adamNsteve replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 02:43:02
“You know, the author has an MA from Cambridge University in economics. I think she is spot on.”
HuffPost Editor Roy Sekoff Discusses The Sarah Palin Coin Controversy On The Joy Behar Show
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 04:23:13 in Media
“No, but she sure did intimate it, didn't she? The inference was loud and clear to most -- this administration is anti-Christian. No matter how she tries to back-peddle, she still made an ignorant remark by suggesting it was the Obama administration that was the cause when, in fact, it was the Bush administration.
Which begs the question, Ann: why are you still defending her?”
Which begs the question, Ann: why are you still defending her?”
dakotawoman replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 11:59:50
“Doesn't matter who Sarah thought was the godless devil DID the coin conversion.
It's the idea that she is STILL giving voice to the many paranoid conspiracy theories propagated by the extremist, Right Wing, religionists who believe in a literal Bible, a literal End Time ("Coming soon, halleluiah!" they sing) and a literal Anti-Christ -- and his name is Obama (which sounds too suspiciously like Abominate to be mere coincidence, don't ya think?)
She's "one of them" in what she says, whether or not she truly aspires to Christian teachings. Going by her statements and actions, I must say she is either highly ignorant about almost everything and/or she is a virulent hypocrite or BOTH. Her personal, family, financial, social, professional and political behavior does not at all reflect that she HAS the moral values preached by her Savior, Jesus Christ, but ----”
It's the idea that she is STILL giving voice to the many paranoid conspiracy theories propagated by the extremist, Right Wing, religionists who believe in a literal Bible, a literal End Time ("Coming soon, halleluiah!" they sing) and a literal Anti-Christ -- and his name is Obama (which sounds too suspiciously like Abominate to be mere coincidence, don't ya think?)
She's "one of them" in what she says, whether or not she truly aspires to Christian teachings. Going by her statements and actions, I must say she is either highly ignorant about almost everything and/or she is a virulent hypocrite or BOTH. Her personal, family, financial, social, professional and political behavior does not at all reflect that she HAS the moral values preached by her Savior, Jesus Christ, but ----”
AnnfromCA replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 09:16:40
“No, there is no inference, unless you think that her mentioning it is inferring.
And that's crazy logic.”
And that's crazy logic.”
Palin's Boob a Fake: Hoffman Loses
Commented Nov 06, 2009 at 12:45:49 in Politics
“Yes, of course, change your tune when you are caught red-handed. You state above --and correct me if I am wrong-- "no more big government spending, no more big government ." Is government spending at record deficit levels, "no more big government," as has been happening under every Republican administration since Reagan? Not the last time I checked. Your statement is nothing but typical right-wing hypocrisy.
You have some gall to sit there and say that spending under the Republicans was done to "keep us and our allies safe," yet you don't hesitate to criticize the Democrats when they do exactly the same thing. Is health-care keeping us safe? It sure is! So why does the military deserve a $650 billion per year SOCIALIST hand-out, and not the American people? Could it be because you are an ideologue that argues from both sides of your mouth? Yes, it is!”
You have some gall to sit there and say that spending under the Republicans was done to "keep us and our allies safe," yet you don't hesitate to criticize the Democrats when they do exactly the same thing. Is health-care keeping us safe? It sure is! So why does the military deserve a $650 billion per year SOCIALIST hand-out, and not the American people? Could it be because you are an ideologue that argues from both sides of your mouth? Yes, it is!”
mike197788 replied on Nov 06, 2009 at 16:17:29
“Military spending is necessary so that you can sit back in your chair like your king and type this dem Utopian rhetoric.
No. Health Care is not a service that was promised to anyone in the Constitution. The ability and opportunity to work and buy healthcare without government intervention is a little closer to the Constitution.
I didn't change my tune, I told you why the GOP has had to spend on defense. If doctors start attacking the US with guns and planes then it would be the same thing. If you don't want the protection of the best Military Force in the world then maybe you should move. Go wait in line in Canada or England, they have universal health care. Ask the people there if they like it.
Obama wants to triple that deficit you got there. "Health care is cost neutral" HAHA! They can't even try to prove that, they just say it over and over. If it's cost neutral then why do we have to pay for three years before anyone get their "free" health care? Pie in the sky. There is no way possible to make it even close to cost neutral without rationing care, and that won't even be enough.”
No. Health Care is not a service that was promised to anyone in the Constitution. The ability and opportunity to work and buy healthcare without government intervention is a little closer to the Constitution.
I didn't change my tune, I told you why the GOP has had to spend on defense. If doctors start attacking the US with guns and planes then it would be the same thing. If you don't want the protection of the best Military Force in the world then maybe you should move. Go wait in line in Canada or England, they have universal health care. Ask the people there if they like it.
Obama wants to triple that deficit you got there. "Health care is cost neutral" HAHA! They can't even try to prove that, they just say it over and over. If it's cost neutral then why do we have to pay for three years before anyone get their "free" health care? Pie in the sky. There is no way possible to make it even close to cost neutral without rationing care, and that won't even be enough.”
Palin's Boob a Fake: Hoffman Loses
Commented Nov 04, 2009 at 17:45:15 in Politics
“Read the following graph and weep:
http://zfa cts.com/p/ 318.html
Under Reagan/Bush, the federal deficit rose upward steadily. Under Clinton it went down. Under GWB it went up again.
You are not only highly misinformed, but you're ignor@nt. Only a tool would make the statement you made without ever bothering to do the simple research.”
http://zfa
Under Reagan/Bush, the federal deficit rose upward steadily. Under Clinton it went down. Under GWB it went up again.
You are not only highly misinformed, but you're ignor@nt. Only a tool would make the statement you made without ever bothering to do the simple research.”
mike197788 replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 15:19:42
“Does that graph show where it will be in 2012? Your gonna need a bigger graph. It rose under Reagan/Bush because we were still in the cold war at the beginning. Also the Gulf War, and then Clinton shut down bases. Then 9/11 happened and we were at war with terrorism. Does your graph show where the money was going? It was going to keep us and our allies safe. Not big government.”
NJ Law Enforcement Appear to Contradict Dobbs' Version of Gunfire Incident
Commented Oct 30, 2009 at 20:45:59 in Media
“Lou Dobbs an alarmist?? Get out of town!”
My New Golf Course: A Source of Pride for Aberdeenshire and Scotland
Commented Oct 18, 2009 at 00:52:33 in Business
“So let me get this straight -- is this going to be one of the greatest golf courses in the world, and is it going to be a source of pride for the Scottish people?”
The Phantom Recovery and What To Do About Jobs
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 12:29:51 in Business
“No, I wouldn't want to be the arbiter of deciding what is "fair." I wouldn't mind deciding what is, "unfair." That may seem like like splitting hairs, and in some cases that may be true, but for the most part regulation is for the general protection of the nation (people). We must learn to embrace some regulation and not demonize it at every opportunity.”
The Phantom Recovery and What To Do About Jobs
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 12:05:43 in Business
“I don't know about your area, but around here (California) I have seen many roads being re-paved. This is a massive change compared to previous years where all I can remember doing is complaining about how bad the roads have become. This is no longer the case -- for now, at least.
I do agree that we need much more investment in the national infrastructure, especially in the high-speed transport area. That would go far in helping the economy in many ways.”
I do agree that we need much more investment in the national infrastructure, especially in the high-speed transport area. That would go far in helping the economy in many ways.”
The Phantom Recovery and What To Do About Jobs
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 11:47:41 in Business
“"Buffet and Gates couldn’t make money in Afghanistan not because of poor infrastructure, etc., but because there are not many people and the ones there have no stable government to provide a legal matrix on which to build society."
You just contradicted your position. In one breath you maintain that capitalist positions (wealth) come about through their own private actions, yet you go on to say that the people of Afghanistan cannot become wealthy because of, "no stable government to provide a legal matrix," (i.e., regulations and laws).
Your assertion that wealthy cannot be the direct cause of beneficial policies, and simultaneously benefit from those policies is simply not true. Look at the banks and their influence on government regulation present day. They have influence, and they are reaping massive benefits. This is not circular logic!”
You just contradicted your position. In one breath you maintain that capitalist positions (wealth) come about through their own private actions, yet you go on to say that the people of Afghanistan cannot become wealthy because of, "no stable government to provide a legal matrix," (i.e., regulations and laws).
Your assertion that wealthy cannot be the direct cause of beneficial policies, and simultaneously benefit from those policies is simply not true. Look at the banks and their influence on government regulation present day. They have influence, and they are reaping massive benefits. This is not circular logic!”
Oldsop replied on Oct 06, 2009 at 12:25:01
“Providing a stable legal matrix against warlords is a bit different than tax policies, corporation rules, etc.
Once again the only influence the wealthy can have on government rules is to make them go away; this does not influence the market per se it only allows the corporations to keep that which they earned instead of giving it to the government. This is a simplification of a complex issue but generally correct.”
Once again the only influence the wealthy can have on government rules is to make them go away; this does not influence the market per se it only allows the corporations to keep that which they earned instead of giving it to the government. This is a simplification of a complex issue but generally correct.”
The Phantom Recovery and What To Do About Jobs
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 11:33:59 in Business
“Back when this country was taxing the wealthy at 80-90%, there was actually a middle class that was healthy and productive. Without a healthy and productive middle class, the wealthy have little means to become wealthy. Do you think human lives grow on trees? Are they expendable when they "breakdown?"
I'm not for 80-90% tax rates for the wealthy, but I am for tax rates that allow for a sustainable middle-class. So should you.”
I'm not for 80-90% tax rates for the wealthy, but I am for tax rates that allow for a sustainable middle-class. So should you.”
The Phantom Recovery and What To Do About Jobs
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 11:23:32 in Business
“He didn't say unequal, he said unfair. There's a huge difference. I, like most people, don't have a problem with the widely-varying levels of income. I do have a problem, however, with that unequal income coming about in nefarious and unjust ways.”
hm1342 replied on Oct 06, 2009 at 11:53:18
“"I do have a problem, however, with that unequal income coming about in nefarious and unjust ways."
I agree in principal, but the problem is who determines what "fair" is. Do you want the arbiter of "fairness" to be the government?”
I agree in principal, but the problem is who determines what "fair" is. Do you want the arbiter of "fairness" to be the government?”
The Phantom Recovery and What To Do About Jobs
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 02:37:32 in Business
“Is this what Hannity told you to think today?”
The Phantom Recovery and What To Do About Jobs
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 02:24:56 in Business
“One more thing -- you're contention about illegal vs legal immigrants is splitting hairs. The wall kept people from traveling in both directions. It's a barrier anyway you slice it, and the divisions it caused --both politically and economically-- were more harmful than any real benefit the Russians received. And it even caused harm to the neighboring countries as well, not that you'd care.
Use this same framework and apply it to the U.S. and the fence. How can you possibly say, with a straight face, that this is a good idea? The solution you call for has been proven, over and over, to be only temporarily effective.
A national ID and economic reform assistance for other countries are the only viable solutions.”
Use this same framework and apply it to the U.S. and the fence. How can you possibly say, with a straight face, that this is a good idea? The solution you call for has been proven, over and over, to be only temporarily effective.
A national ID and economic reform assistance for other countries are the only viable solutions.”
The Phantom Recovery and What To Do About Jobs
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 01:34:07 in Business
“In your mind they are different, but they actually aren't: the idea of having a ideologically homogeneous society was the goal for the Russians; the idea of having a racially homogeneous society is a goal by some Americans. Both want to use a wall to achieve these ends. This is the similarity you are missing.”
The Phantom Recovery and What To Do About Jobs
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 00:43:44 in Business
“I've got a better idea -- why don't we build a wall instead? And along that wall we'll have watchtowers every 1/4 mile, and barbed wire covering every inch. In those watchtowers we'll have soldiers with high-caliber rifles to take down anyone trying to scale the fence. We'll also enact a strict no border crossing policy for decades, just like the Russians did when they split Europe. It's a fantastic idea!”
stop the spin replied on Oct 06, 2009 at 01:08:05
“Russia built the walls to keep the Germans from leaving their "communist Utopia", the border control this post referred to was to keep illegals out.
Not immigrant, but "illegal" immigrants. Big difference.”
Not immigrant, but "illegal" immigrants. Big difference.”
Sexual Harassment Be Damned! Here's Why Dave Won't Drive Away Women
Commented Oct 05, 2009 at 16:55:00 in Media
“Oh no, another Pa lin apologist.”
Sever the Link Between Populism and Racism
Commented Sep 18, 2009 at 12:38:09 in Media
“Your broad brush contention that populism has nothing to do with racism is just as far-fetched as your contention that liberals call all populists, "racists."”
Leebot replied on Sep 18, 2009 at 13:27:34
“Well stated.”
New TIME Cover on Glenn Beck Ignores Facts, and Worse
Commented Sep 17, 2009 at 15:02:08 in Media
“Projection (or transference). Look into it so you can understand why your comment is hypocritical.”
b-dob replied on Sep 17, 2009 at 15:36:55
“Why don't you explain it to me, Sigmund? I'd much rather hear you opinion, because you know me better than I do! Seriously, why do liberals never address the issue that is brought up? Instead, they name-call or try to discredit the messenger of disagreement rather than address the issue that created the disagreement. Perfect example is all this racism being charged against literally any opposition to the Obama administration's policies. If you have all the answers, I would think you'd want your own argument to be heard. This just tells me that you have no argument and no answers.”
Arianna to White House: "Welcome to Reality" (VIDEO)
Commented Aug 14, 2009 at 05:48:37 in Politics
“Why not do the research and find out instead of offering unsupported innuendos.”
Arianna to White House: "Welcome to Reality" (VIDEO)
Commented Aug 13, 2009 at 06:39:03 in Politics
“President Obama will pass health care reform with a public option. He's just stringing the Republicans along until he can spring a budget reconciliation vote in September. From Bloomberg:
“At some point, sometime in September, we are just going to have to make an assessment” about continuing to seek a bipartisan agreement with Republican senators, Obama said in an interview with MSNBC. “I would prefer Republicans working with us on that because I think it’s in the interest of everybody. ”
http://www .bloomberg .com/apps/ news?pid=2 0601087&si d=avBw_Toz A3oQ”
“At some point, sometime in September, we are just going to have to make an assessment” about continuing to seek a bipartisan agreement with Republican senators, Obama said in an interview with MSNBC. “I would prefer Republicans working with us on that because I think it’s in the interest of everybody.
http://www
ckfan replied on Aug 13, 2009 at 06:43:19
“Thank you for posting. Bipartisanship rhetoric from Obama is just that - rhetoric. He will never publicly say "they're either with us or against us." Not his style - publicly.”
Manufactured Protesters Are Killing Democracy
Commented Aug 07, 2009 at 17:56:55 in Politics
“Oh yeah, Real Clear Politics is quite the independent site. From Wikipedia:
"RealClearPolitics is a conservati ve-leaning Chicago-based political news aggregator, polling data aggregator, and blog [...]
"[Bevan, one of the principals] further stated, "we have a frustration all conservatives have", which is "the bias in media against conservatives, religious conservatives, [and] Christian conservati ves."”
"RealClearPolitics is a conservati
"[Bevan, one of the principals] further stated, "we have a frustration all conservatives have", which is "the bias in media against conservatives, religious conservatives, [and] Christian conservati
Right Wingers Wreak Havoc on Philadelphia Town Meeting
Commented Aug 03, 2009 at 17:09:30 in Eyes & Ears
“Do you have evidence to the contrary? If so, please produce it.”


