Phaedrusnyc's Comments (31)
New Rule: You Can't Complain About Health Care Reform If You're Not Willing to Reform Your Own Health
Commented Sep 19, 2009 at 10:11:10 in Comedy
“The reasons people get (and stay) fat are numerous, and only some have to do with their lifestyle choices. I know fat vegetarians and fat meat-eaters. Heavy people who have been going to the gym for years and are still not the "ideal weight." I don't personally know many fat people who wouldn't willingly give up "bad" foods or ANY foods doing so would make them thin without being hungry. Sure, fat people should conquer hunger with "will-power"- too bad hunger is the most primal animal instinct (after sex) of any animal. Animals kill, hoard, and binge to prevent hunger- but when a human listens to the brain that's telling him he's hungry, it's because he "lacks self control." The brain-obese-body connection is still not completely understood. Nor is diet: why do some diets work for some and others work for others? Why are the French and Italians more slender than Americans when they eat all that "bad food" Maher goes on about? Why do some find success (and health) with Atkins and others with the food pyramid? When Maher is bright enough to figure this out for us, I'll be happy to let him dictate policy- but since he doesn't know, he should really give it a rest- especially as he continues to inhale a "natural" psychoactive product that permanently alters neural pathways- you know, like sugar.”
dresdengirl replied on Sep 19, 2009 at 11:37:21
“French and Italians eat "real" food. "Real" food does not come in packages. They also don't spend hours every day in front of the TV. They don't drive from here to there. They walk. One hour in a Gym does not help if you spend the rest of the week sitting around. Get moving.”
New Rule: You Can't Complain About Health Care Reform If You're Not Willing to Reform Your Own Health
Commented Sep 19, 2009 at 07:19:19 in Comedy
“Maher's show is a thoughtful one, and his willingness to challenge orthodoxy is admirable. However, his views on health and medicine are consistently ill-informed, oversimplified, didactic, self-serving, and hypocritical. I congratulate him for his apparent lack of genetic and environmental predisposal to various physical and mental ailments. However, his constant characterization of overweight people as lazy moral failures who simply lack self-control, (among other issues) demonstrates his unwillingness listen and lack of empathy.
The reason we don't tax "bad foods" is because science rarely agrees on what a “bad food” is. True, high-fructose corn syrup is unnatural and strongly correlates with obesity. Do artificial sweeteners? Who knows? Maher thinks dairy products (ingested for millennia) are "unnatural,” too. Should we be vegetarian? Maybe- our teeth and digestive tracts suggest otherwise. Who decides?
cont.”
The reason we don't tax "bad foods" is because science rarely agrees on what a “bad food” is. True, high-fructose corn syrup is unnatural and strongly correlates with obesity. Do artificial sweeteners? Who knows? Maher thinks dairy products (ingested for millennia) are "unnatural,” too. Should we be vegetarian? Maybe- our teeth and digestive tracts suggest otherwise. Who decides?
cont.”
zoe27 replied on Sep 19, 2009 at 13:36:55
“My earlier comment hasn't shown up so I'll try again...
What Phaedrusnyc said...but in ALL CAPS. While I enjoy Bill Maher's show for its wit and intelligence, when he gets on any health or nutrition topic he comes across as simplistic and judgmental. The causes for obesity are many...including but not limited to genetics, drugs that cause weight gain, HFCS, the lesser nutrition in even basic food like fruits and vegetables compared to decades ago, portion sizes, increased levels of depression in society, stress affecting cortisol & insulin in the body, less exercise (both in school and as adults)...and on and on and on. There are medical and agri-business factors as well as lifestyle ones. I don't actually disagree with the idea of taxing junk food; it's taxed in Canada. Just don't expect it to have any impact on obesity. It might be better to treat it as a dedicated tax towards healthcare costs.”
What Phaedrusnyc said...but in ALL CAPS. While I enjoy Bill Maher's show for its wit and intelligence, when he gets on any health or nutrition topic he comes across as simplistic and judgmental. The causes for obesity are many...including but not limited to genetics, drugs that cause weight gain, HFCS, the lesser nutrition in even basic food like fruits and vegetables compared to decades ago, portion sizes, increased levels of depression in society, stress affecting cortisol & insulin in the body, less exercise (both in school and as adults)...and on and on and on. There are medical and agri-business factors as well as lifestyle ones. I don't actually disagree with the idea of taxing junk food; it's taxed in Canada. Just don't expect it to have any impact on obesity. It might be better to treat it as a dedicated tax towards healthcare costs.”
zoe27 replied on Sep 19, 2009 at 10:18:17
“What Phaedrusnyc said, but in ALL CAPS! I love Bill Maher's show for both its wit and intelligence, but I find him simplistic and judgmental on health issues. I've seen him shut down an interview with an author who's written books on nutrition (Michael Pollan - The Omnivore's Dilemma, In Defence of Food) when it was obvious that he wouldn't go along with Maher's nutritional agenda. Just changed the topic to something else when he had someone who's researched a lot about food and the food industry. There's nothing wrong, BTW, with taxing junk food - its taxed in Canada. Just don't expect it to deal with the obesity problem. We have plenty of obese people in Canada too. Might not be a bad idea as a dedicated tax towards healthcare costs.”
Phaedrusnyc replied on Sep 19, 2009 at 10:11:10
“The reasons people get (and stay) fat are numerous, and only some have to do with their lifestyle choices. I know fat vegetarians and fat meat-eaters. Heavy people who have been going to the gym for years and are still not the "ideal weight." I don't personally know many fat people who wouldn't willingly give up "bad" foods or ANY foods doing so would make them thin without being hungry. Sure, fat people should conquer hunger with "will-power"- too bad hunger is the most primal animal instinct (after sex) of any animal. Animals kill, hoard, and binge to prevent hunger- but when a human listens to the brain that's telling him he's hungry, it's because he "lacks self control." The brain-obese-body connection is still not completely understood. Nor is diet: why do some diets work for some and others work for others? Why are the French and Italians more slender than Americans when they eat all that "bad food" Maher goes on about? Why do some find success (and health) with Atkins and others with the food pyramid? When Maher is bright enough to figure this out for us, I'll be happy to let him dictate policy- but since he doesn't know, he should really give it a rest- especially as he continues to inhale a "natural" psychoactive product that permanently alters neural pathways- you know, like sugar.”
mightymouse replied on Sep 19, 2009 at 09:31:29
“soda is bad food.”
Republican Political Hackery and the Hate Crimes Bill
Commented May 09, 2009 at 10:46:12 in Politics
“I make no such mistake. The fact is that a precedent is still established whereby the thoughts of the perpetrator (the "hate in his motivation") alters the nature of and disposition of his crime- making the crime itself one of thought rather than action. Period. The law has always allowed for flexibility on the part of judges and juries to grant longer or shorter sentences based on mitigating and aggravating factors, and judges and juries are perfectly within their rights to decide on the maximum sentences if they have been moved by the prosecution to believe that the biases of the perpetrator factor heavily into his act. However, codifying a specific distinction between a "hate crime," and a...I don't know, "dislike crime?" changes the nature of our very notion of justice in this country, which I might remind you, is supposed to be "blind" with regard to those who are charged.
Your examples of the specifics of the law are also ones representing strict interpretation- which, when prosecutors are bringing a case, is hardly the way most law is dispensed with. Even you would have to admit that laws like these, despite their intentions, are easily manipulated for political reasons (district attorneys, for example, are elected officials.) It is almost a given that these laws will be (and currently are) applied unequally depending on the prevailing political climate of the day.”
Your examples of the specifics of the law are also ones representing strict interpretation- which, when prosecutors are bringing a case, is hardly the way most law is dispensed with. Even you would have to admit that laws like these, despite their intentions, are easily manipulated for political reasons (district attorneys, for example, are elected officials.) It is almost a given that these laws will be (and currently are) applied unequally depending on the prevailing political climate of the day.”
MoeB replied on May 14, 2009 at 15:36:24
“You seem to have the utmost respect for how the law is carried out in this country. I applaud your blind faith. However, there have been countless numbers of instances where justice has NOT been served in this country. Part of the benefit of hate crimes legislation is that it possibly gives another avenue (unless I'm wrong on this and feel free to correct me) for justice that might not be achieved on a local level. Not every judge and jury makes their judgments solely on the facts of a case...further as it stands now, the law is not applied equally to all people.
Now, you may argue that hate crimes legislation is NO LONGER needed, but I find it hard to justify that it was NEVER needed.”
Now, you may argue that hate crimes legislation is NO LONGER needed, but I find it hard to justify that it was NEVER needed.”
Republican Political Hackery and the Hate Crimes Bill
Commented May 08, 2009 at 23:47:24 in Politics
“I am a liberal Democrat., anon-Christian, and a non-heterosexual. I am a rigorous thinker, a student of history and politics, and a fan of the Constitution- and, therefore, vigorously opposed to "hate crimes" legislation. I am sure I will be called a troll or worse, but anyone is free to look at various other posts I've made to decide for themselves.
I do not ally myself with bigots of any stripe. That is not why I oppose these laws. I have fought various kinds of bigotry for much of my life and will continue to do so on my behalf and that of others. I oppose these laws because the foundation of law rests upon other law. Law is based on precedent. Prosecuting someone based on the particular characteristics of their victims is a precedent. It does not distinguish between acts- simply between the possible beliefs that led to those acts. And that sort of precedent is a terrible one- one that will bite liberal, progressive, forward thinking people in the ass one of these days. Once we establish the precedent that certain beliefs can be legally worse or better than other beliefs, there is no preventing laws that will persecute us for OUR beliefs.
We should vigorously punish anyone who would infringe upon the life, liberty, or happiness of another- whether it's someone we agree with or someone we abhor. Hate crimes laws are a matter of political expedience- they are not good policy.”
I do not ally myself with bigots of any stripe. That is not why I oppose these laws. I have fought various kinds of bigotry for much of my life and will continue to do so on my behalf and that of others. I oppose these laws because the foundation of law rests upon other law. Law is based on precedent. Prosecuting someone based on the particular characteristics of their victims is a precedent. It does not distinguish between acts- simply between the possible beliefs that led to those acts. And that sort of precedent is a terrible one- one that will bite liberal, progressive, forward thinking people in the ass one of these days. Once we establish the precedent that certain beliefs can be legally worse or better than other beliefs, there is no preventing laws that will persecute us for OUR beliefs.
We should vigorously punish anyone who would infringe upon the life, liberty, or happiness of another- whether it's someone we agree with or someone we abhor. Hate crimes laws are a matter of political expedience- they are not good policy.”
cg509 replied on May 17, 2009 at 23:49:49
“All thinking people should agree.”
Ohsnap replied on May 11, 2009 at 02:37:06
“A person hates gays with every ounce of their being...yet they do not murder. They do not assault. They just throw the person a dirty look, or make some comment. They may say to their friend that they do not like that person because he is gay. These are not punishable offenses, because no crimes were committed. Since there was no action, there was no hate crime. So there is a certain extent of hate speech that is allowed because there has to be tangible evidence to prove it. As far as I know there is no law that will put a person in jail for calling a person a fa* on television. The person who calls a person a fa* and then murders have moved from inaction to action. Did the action happen in a vacuum, or did an underlying factor drive it? Yes, the person vehemently hated gays. Which drove the murder. So, you argue, if the hate itself is a crime, then person A should be prosecuted...No...because there was no action. So that proves your point that it is the action that is punishable, and not the personal difference in opinion, right? It is these same personal beliefs that drives the level of punishment. One's bias may interfere with one's ability to sentence...which varies widely.”
Ohsnap replied on May 11, 2009 at 02:05:35
“If I understand you right, you oppose these laws because the crime is based on the differences of opinion on the person's gender, sexual orientation, race, etc between the victim and the person committing the crime. For example, the crime is murder...and the man who committed the murder indicated he killed the other because he was a fa*, and he hates fa**ots. Murder, is murder, right? So the sex, race, etc. is (or should be irrelevant, right)?
Seems perfectly, logical. However, justice is not blind. Judges do have biases, as well as the jury. If a person is homosexual, and they are violently against homosexuality...the worth of that person decreases significantly in the eyes of that person. Therefore, a lighter sentence for the perp. What the hate crime does is first make clear that all humans are created equal. And the very existence of a hate crime law acknowledges that other people do not always see fellow humans as equals. Because if that were the case, people would not base their judgements based on the color of their skin, sexual orientation, etc. We would not have affirmative action, etc. One could make the case that we should eliminate all judgements based on race, gender, etc. But to eliminate it without acknowledging that there is stereotypes would be like throwing out the research before you found the cure.”
Seems perfectly, logical. However, justice is not blind. Judges do have biases, as well as the jury. If a person is homosexual, and they are violently against homosexuality...the worth of that person decreases significantly in the eyes of that person. Therefore, a lighter sentence for the perp. What the hate crime does is first make clear that all humans are created equal. And the very existence of a hate crime law acknowledges that other people do not always see fellow humans as equals. Because if that were the case, people would not base their judgements based on the color of their skin, sexual orientation, etc. We would not have affirmative action, etc. One could make the case that we should eliminate all judgements based on race, gender, etc. But to eliminate it without acknowledging that there is stereotypes would be like throwing out the research before you found the cure.”
StevenKeirstead replied on May 09, 2009 at 10:05:27
“You mistake the intent of the legislation. It is not the status of the victim that would be put on trial, though there would of course be a tangential relationship. It is not applicable to cases where the perpetrator does not explicitly state the crime was based on bias. So a white man who kills a black man in the commission of a robbery motivated solely by the money could not be prosecuted for a hate crime, because there was no hate in the motivation. On the other hand if a man kills a woman while screaming anti-female epithets, motivated by misogyny, would be prosecutable for his bias. This legal tactic is not new. Essentially it is an extension of the 1870 civil rights laws used to prosecute the suspects of the 1964 murders of Goodman, Cheney and Schwerner in Philadelphia, Mississippi. But in the broader sense all trials of violent crimes take into account the mental state, the criminal intent, of the accused. Nor is the victim left out of all such trials, sentencing often considers input from victims' families.”
Schadenfreude: It's Not Just For the Right Anymore
Commented Nov 05, 2008 at 19:04:22 in Politics
“When Obama says ONE WORD about reining in the international corporations that dictate America's policies, about permanently getting rid of the lobbyists who write our laws for Congress to rubber-stamp, and about establishing an electoral system that allows for more than two shrill points of view, you can get away with saying he's "co-opting what little resonance [Nader's] message once had," but until then, Nader has a place in American politics, whether or not he occasionally makes an ill-considered statement like the one you're pushing. The fact is, Obama is more progressive than the alternative, sure- but he's hardly "progressive." And he's hardly likely to criticize the money that's infected the American political process when his win, in large part, came from turning down federal funding.
You don't like Ralph Nader, the person? Fine- that's certainly your right. But Nader being obnoxious doesn't make what he's fought for any less legitimate.”
You don't like Ralph Nader, the person? Fine- that's certainly your right. But Nader being obnoxious doesn't make what he's fought for any less legitimate.”
MizFlagPin replied on Nov 05, 2008 at 19:30:45
“#1 Obama's campaign was publiclyy financed by "we the people"
#2 What does Nader know about anyyone being an uncle Tom.
#3 After making this slur towards the President Elect, it's safe to say that Rader is through”
#2 What does Nader know about anyyone being an uncle Tom.
#3 After making this slur towards the President Elect, it's safe to say that Rader is through”
Proposition 8 and Religious Freedom in Northern Orange County
Commented Nov 05, 2008 at 17:07:13 in Politics
“If you have ever actually READ the U.S. Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, than you have just demonstrated a PROFOUND misunderstanding of those two documents, which form the basis of our nation and its philosophy.. The Constitution does not "grant us" our rights, nor does it pretend to do so. It PROTECTS our rights, which our Founding Fathers expressly stated are not granted by the government but by the Creator. They are inalienable. Marriage is a right because the people believe it to be a right and because it has been regarded as such throughout history, whether the Constitution says so or not. Take a civics class.”
bannorhill replied on Nov 08, 2008 at 18:45:28
“Marriage is a statute written by the government. In writing that statute it defines what is and by implication what is not a marriage. Same sex unions do not meet the definition of marriage.
If marriage is a "right" then why does government need to write any law defining it? Did government write a law that makes you pay and fill out forms so you will have the "right" to free speech? Of course not. How about to vote? The Supreme Court ruled that paying to vote (pole tax) is unconstitutional. Do you have to pay the government for your "right" to practice your religion?
I have read what the US Constitution says AND what the Supreme Court has ruled (and refused to review). The Supreme Court is the final definer of the constitutionality of laws. That is in the Constitution Article III Section 1. Until ruled otherwise by the US Supreme Cuert California Amendment 8 is Constitutional by the US Constitution. I learned that is civics class.”
If marriage is a "right" then why does government need to write any law defining it? Did government write a law that makes you pay and fill out forms so you will have the "right" to free speech? Of course not. How about to vote? The Supreme Court ruled that paying to vote (pole tax) is unconstitutional. Do you have to pay the government for your "right" to practice your religion?
I have read what the US Constitution says AND what the Supreme Court has ruled (and refused to review). The Supreme Court is the final definer of the constitutionality of laws. That is in the Constitution Article III Section 1. Until ruled otherwise by the US Supreme Cuert California Amendment 8 is Constitutional by the US Constitution. I learned that is civics class.”
equalground replied on Nov 06, 2008 at 15:13:22
“I got halfway through your argue and thought "He/She got it!", finally. Then, you strayed from proection and went back to rights. See my blog below "bsc."
As for protection, do you understnd why the court granted protection. Because same-sex couples are powerless in the political process. Serious! I did not make this up. See my other blog below "JBryan" for a more complete explanation. And, the protection being provided was the protection of "respect and dignity." Not sure any Supreme Court has ever granted a race, gender, or religion protection of respect and dignity. My race, gender, and religion are disrespected and treated with indignity pretty much daily. Again, serious! I did not make this up. Go read the CA Supreme Court ruling.”
As for protection, do you understnd why the court granted protection. Because same-sex couples are powerless in the political process. Serious! I did not make this up. See my other blog below "JBryan" for a more complete explanation. And, the protection being provided was the protection of "respect and dignity." Not sure any Supreme Court has ever granted a race, gender, or religion protection of respect and dignity. My race, gender, and religion are disrespected and treated with indignity pretty much daily. Again, serious! I did not make this up. Go read the CA Supreme Court ruling.”
Excuse Me, But Didn't McCain and Palin Just Say That the Victims of 9/11 Weren't 'Real Americans'?
Commented Oct 21, 2008 at 17:13:23 in Politics
“Um, ok. First of all, the direct quotes we're using are just that- direct quotes. Nobody "made up" anything unless you're implying that the pool of reporters is being inaccurate. Secondly, yes, calling ANYTHING "the real" something is saying that the things you're comparing it to are not "real." That includes your insipid Cubs analogy. What's even more obnoxious is the fact that you don't see the difference in purpose between your sports metaphor and what Palin said. When I say, "The Cubs fans are the REAL fans," I am most likely speaking to a bunch of Cubs fans to get them excited about their team. When someone says, "These are the REAL Americans," one is presumably doing the same thing- however, when that person is hoping to preside over THE ENTIRE COUNTRY that sort of statement is disgraceful. When someone wins an election, (s)he doesn't then go on to serve the people who voted for him/her- she is meant to server her ENTIRE CONSTITUENCY. If Sarah Palin becomes my Vice president, I damn well expect her to consider me "real" American.
As for the Russia quote- yeah, Tina Palin said it. AFTER Sarah Palin did. It's not in dispute and you know that.”
As for the Russia quote- yeah, Tina Palin said it. AFTER Sarah Palin did. It's not in dispute and you know that.”
BobLablah replied on Oct 22, 2008 at 16:49:21
“Apparently you don't think it's in dispute because you don't care to look up the facts.
Palin's actual quote: "They're our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska -- from an island in Alaska," she said.
Suggestion: Political satirists make things up to make people laugh. You probably shouldn't use their humor as a basis for your serious discussions. No apology needed, I'm used to it.
RJ: Thanks for another great post. See you next time.”
Palin's actual quote: "They're our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska -- from an island in Alaska," she said.
Suggestion: Political satirists make things up to make people laugh. You probably shouldn't use their humor as a basis for your serious discussions. No apology needed, I'm used to it.
RJ: Thanks for another great post. See you next time.”
Excuse Me, But Didn't McCain and Palin Just Say That the Victims of 9/11 Weren't 'Real Americans'?
Commented Oct 21, 2008 at 11:49:48 in Politics
“Happy to- from a Palin fundraiser in North Carolina on the 16th, as recorded by a pool of reporters and published in the Washington Post:
"We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. We believe- we believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation."
Palin calls small towns "real America" and "Pro-America." If the definition of "real America" is small towns, than that which is NOT a small town (ie, New York City) is not part of "Real America." QED.”
"We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. We believe- we believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation."
Palin calls small towns "real America" and "Pro-America." If the definition of "real America" is small towns, than that which is NOT a small town (ie, New York City) is not part of "Real America." QED.”
BobLablah replied on Oct 21, 2008 at 12:30:45
“Nice logic. I think Cubs fans are "real fans" and "pro-Baseball", so I guess all other fans are not real fans and they're anti-Baseball. I also think Cub fans are the best in the world, so I guess all other fans are bad. Which I guess is true in Philly.”
Joe the Plumber Meets Sam the Gas Station Guy
Commented Oct 17, 2008 at 06:20:09 in Politics
“I divide my time between LA and NYC where I go to the gym. Among the people I see at the gym in both NYC and LA are numerous movie stars who can surely afford their own gyms if they want to but go to public ones, anyway. Perhaps they like people and aren't so afraid of the lower classes that they feel the need to barricade themselves. Who knows? It seems like Sam is a pretty social guy.
As for him "being too busy to go to the gym, " you seem to be unaware of the concept of "middle management." It seems to me that people with that many enterprises tend to have people under them running the day to day stuff. I'm pretty sure, based on my own work for big companies, that the people at the top take vacations, go out to the movies, and yes, go to the gym just as much as anyone else. Sam would have to be, as you say, "he stupidest and least sucessful business owner ever," if he doesn't yet know the concept of "delegation of authority."”
As for him "being too busy to go to the gym, " you seem to be unaware of the concept of "middle management." It seems to me that people with that many enterprises tend to have people under them running the day to day stuff. I'm pretty sure, based on my own work for big companies, that the people at the top take vacations, go out to the movies, and yes, go to the gym just as much as anyone else. Sam would have to be, as you say, "he stupidest and least sucessful business owner ever," if he doesn't yet know the concept of "delegation of authority."”
New Microsoft Ad: I'm a Mac, but I'm Listeninge
Commented Sep 23, 2008 at 17:07:46 in Media
“I've used both. I have no problem with people anthropomorphizing their Macs as they seem to, but I have trouble with Mac's ad campaign for being A. Unbearably smug, and B. full of untruths and half truths. Yes, Macs crash. No, macs don't run as much software as PCs. Yes, macs can be hit by viruses when hackers wish to target them. Moreover, Mac does some pretty crappy stuff to its consumers (like making it impossible to replace a battery on an iPod, or limiting users' rights to use their audio and video where they want it.) Your choice is your choice, but must consumer purchases be proselytised? Spare me the religious fervor, Mac people.”
New Microsoft Ad: I'm a Mac, but I'm Listeninge
Commented Sep 23, 2008 at 17:02:01 in Media
“Yes, because Microsoft made its own commercials without hiring an ad agency, right?”
Children Deserve A Sex Education Policy That Provides Answers
Commented Sep 23, 2008 at 11:57:14 in Home
“While I agree with the sentiments of the respondants to your post, Paliban, I weep at the fact that apparently none of them understand the concepts of irony, satire, or humor. That your use of the word "Paliban" didn't set off any flags says nothing about your own gift for comedy and everything about the aptitude of the average blog reader.
Good job!”
Good job!”
azakayaks replied on Sep 24, 2008 at 17:01:11
“I, too, thought perhaps, that that was the case there at www.paliban.org.
That it was totally satire, lampooning right-wing nut job websites. Having perused that site, I can't help but think it's the real thing, i.e; a rabid wingnut's effort to stimulate those like him/her.
"Paliban" not garner recognition? How could it not, to anyone who hasn't been asleep, a la Rip van Winkle, since the turn of the century.
If, indeed it was a mockery, let PalibanMom enlighten us all, and gain the recognition for a superlative effort she richly deserves.
Personally, I weep for those who use "irony" and "satire" interchangably”
That it was totally satire, lampooning right-wing nut job websites. Having perused that site, I can't help but think it's the real thing, i.e; a rabid wingnut's effort to stimulate those like him/her.
"Paliban" not garner recognition? How could it not, to anyone who hasn't been asleep, a la Rip van Winkle, since the turn of the century.
If, indeed it was a mockery, let PalibanMom enlighten us all, and gain the recognition for a superlative effort she richly deserves.
Personally, I weep for those who use "irony" and "satire" interchangably”
SeKelley replied on Sep 23, 2008 at 15:13:36
“Thank you, Phaedrusnyc. I thought I was the only one who laughed out loud at the thought of www.paliban.org. At first blush, I thought it was bizarrely for real, and was relieved to visit the site and find some really good satire on my screen!
For some, at least, not everything is as serious as they would like to have it appear. Now I need to go check with my husband and see if there's something he learned that I didn't. ;-)”
For some, at least, not everything is as serious as they would like to have it appear. Now I need to go check with my husband and see if there's something he learned that I didn't. ;-)”
SummerNite replied on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:39:41
“ahh...she wasn't joking. Did you check the link.
I'm hoping that you are joking because you are unable to comprehend the ignorance of the statement above. I detect irony in your statement so I commend you for your subtle gift for comedy.
Cheers!”
I'm hoping that you are joking because you are unable to comprehend the ignorance of the statement above. I detect irony in your statement so I commend you for your subtle gift for comedy.
Cheers!”
Happy 30th Birthday, Battlestar Galactica!
Commented Sep 22, 2008 at 17:36:29 in Entertainment
“June Lockhart was a Bowie fan? That would be awesome...reference?”
hp blogger Mike Ragogna replied on Sep 22, 2008 at 18:26:47
“Hi Phaedrunyc...yup, it's all true! I'm good friends with a certain Will Robinson who shared that with me a while ago, plus that's always been floating around articles over the years associated with Lost In Space. And there's some photo of them together which I vaguely remember...”
A Debate Worthy of a Great Nation in Trouble
Commented Sep 17, 2008 at 11:00:50 in Politics
“You have counted Fox "and" the MSM as one of the reasons why the peiople deserve what they're getting. Explain to me the solution, then- if people are being fooled, constantly, by a vast group of monied citizens, politicians, and corporations who make it a priority to keep the majority of the electrorate as uninformed, ignorant, and confused about what the "truth" is while they struggle for the majority of their days just to fulfill the daily requirements of life and work, what are they supposed to do about it? I am angry with the Republicans, I am angry with the MSM, I am angry with the ciorporations, I am angry with the capitulating Democrats, and sometimes, I am angry with the uninformed people who keep them in power. But I can't say they "deserve" it when the odds of them ever even learning the truth are so low. Nobody deserves to be raped, even if they're misled into thinking they're walking around a "safe" neighborhood.”
ranger5 replied on Sep 17, 2008 at 11:54:11
“The "solution" is simply taking the time to dig into the facts rather than assuming that the crap being ladled out by candidates, incumbent politicians, and the MSM is the truth. Americans have become so lazy that we listen to 10 second sound bites about something as complex as the economy as think we understand what it's all about, and believe candidates when they say things like, "I can fix it", without ever explaining how. A highly educated fellow worker I was talking to the other day said she was leaning toward McCain because of his "national security experience". I asked her thoughts about the Mideast, terrorism, Iran, etc. and discovered that she knew virtually nothing about the history of America's involvment there, our support for Saddam, our overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iran, etc. Ignorance is king in America. All Americans need to do to change that is to read actual books, get different points of view from different sources, exercise critical thinking. But that, I have no doubt, is way too much to expect.”
A Debate Worthy of a Great Nation in Trouble
Commented Sep 17, 2008 at 10:53:13 in Politics
“Actually, when we account for the criminal purging of voter rolls in the swing states, Kerry also received a majority of the vote in 2004. "They" may deserve what they get, but I have been fighting with my vote, my voice, and my sweat against this sort of thing for over eight years now (Clinton did almost as much as Bush to sell out the middle and working classes, after all.) I don't deserve this, and I resent any implication of America as a monolithic society any more than 11907281's country, whichever one that is.”
The Vice Presidency: How Close to the Oval Office?
Commented Sep 09, 2008 at 13:57:42 in Politics
“Their crimes HAVE been uncovered. They simply don't care. At least Nixon had the decency to try to cover things up.”
Little Orphan Fannie
Commented Sep 09, 2008 at 12:30:59 in Home
“Annnnnd...they didn't. As it is clearly discussed in the article. THAT didn't start happening until privatisation and the willingness to lower the standards of lending in order to make a quick buck. But keep trying, you'll get it right eventually.”
The Vice Presidency: How Close to the Oval Office?
Commented Sep 09, 2008 at 10:35:42 in Politics
“"Experience" is apparently the only arrow left in the Right's quiver, so let's break it down. McCain's "experience" led him to vote with president Bush just about every chance he got. His "experience" has had him flip-flop on half the positions he supposedly held eight years ago, in the name of political expediency. And his "experience" will lead to a greater risk that more your men and women will share his apparently most important "experience"- that of being injured or tortured abroad.
There is an old line that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Look at the last eight years and explain to me why you consider yourself sane?”
There is an old line that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Look at the last eight years and explain to me why you consider yourself sane?”
The Vice Presidency: How Close to the Oval Office?
Commented Sep 09, 2008 at 10:32:24 in Politics
“Are you better off today than you were eight years ago? Just answer that. And then tell me who was in charge.
I'd rather take a chance on someone new than keep betting on people who have yet to get it right.”
I'd rather take a chance on someone new than keep betting on people who have yet to get it right.”
The Vice Presidency: How Close to the Oval Office?
Commented Sep 09, 2008 at 10:30:13 in Politics
“I think you mean, "Spork."”
Trust Me... Him... Us... Yourself
Commented Sep 03, 2008 at 14:03:04 in Politics
“Beth, those of us who see the very real possibility of a McCain victory in November are not simply being "nervous nellies." We are standing against complacency. We were SO SURE that we would win last time, remember? How could Bush POSSIBLY be re-elected after that disastrous first term?
And yet he was.
The absolute DUMBEST thing we can do right now is calling it a victory before it actually is one. There is a LOT of work to do between now and November, not least of which is making sure that every vote is counted. Something that has not happened in the last two "elections," and something that is being prevented yet again, as we natter on about out own presumed inevitability. Read Greg Palast's reports and call me a "nervous nelly." I dare you.”
And yet he was.
The absolute DUMBEST thing we can do right now is calling it a victory before it actually is one. There is a LOT of work to do between now and November, not least of which is making sure that every vote is counted. Something that has not happened in the last two "elections," and something that is being prevented yet again, as we natter on about out own presumed inevitability. Read Greg Palast's reports and call me a "nervous nelly." I dare you.”
They Don't Know Joe: The Secret of Biden's Success in Delaware
Commented Sep 03, 2008 at 11:35:58 in Politics
“Being Pro-Choice is not the same as being "Pro-Abortion." I know of few people at any point along the political spectrum (except for the pro-eugenicists who would happily cast aside their "pro-life" beliefs if they know the unborn baby was going to grow up gay, or Jewish, or Liberal) who wants abortion to be something other than a rarity and a method of last resort. Once a person accepts the idea that everybody in a democratic society is not necesarily going to share one's viewpoints on morality and that imposing one's OWN, non-universal views on good people is anaethema to the health of a society, it becomes much easier to vote for Choice, even if one doesn't support abortion.”
Pellicano Trial: Courtney Love Caught On Tape
Commented Mar 25, 2008 at 13:03:08 in Entertainment
“I have always adored Carrie Fisher, but the more I hear that people like Pellicano and Courtney Love are her "friends," the more I begin to judge her by the company she keeps.”
Pellicano Trial: Courtney Love Caught On Tape
Commented Mar 25, 2008 at 13:03:08 in Entertainment
“I have always adored Carrie Fisher, but the more I hear that people like Pellicano and Courtney Love are her "friends," the more I begin to judge her by the company she keeps.”
Union Maid: The Founder Of The Freelancer's Union
Commented Mar 07, 2008 at 14:55:56 in Living
“Which, as I said, are not available to all members- in other words, it's not an open membership. And when I speak of collective bargaining, I am speaking of the specific legal right to bargain with employers that "real" unions employ. Again, you're arguing semantics, not the facts of traditional union membership. Or membership in general, for that matter. The insurance prices are great- too bad temp workers aren't allowed to receive them.”


