RobertNaiman's Comments (73)
Mr. Netanyahu, Tear Down This Wall
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 17:10:39 in World
“I'm a U.S. citizen and I pay taxes here; that gives me the right to criticize the Israeli government, since my government pays for its policies. If you don't like the criticism, give us our money back and be on your way.”
pgmark replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 19:33:14
“By the way your answer was bit snippy -
Aren't you used to having your views debated.
Your opinion is worth no more or less than all who reply”
Aren't you used to having your views debated.
Your opinion is worth no more or less than all who reply”
StCuthbert replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 18:34:43
“The US gives Israel money without precondition. It doesn't say, "we'll give you this money if you do what we want". I don't see you criticizing all the other countries we give money to. If you don't want us to give money to Israel, write your congressman as is your right. But don't demand something from Israel in return. That's not how it works.”
pgmark replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 17:57:04
“I happen to be a US citizen, a proud american and have served my country.
I also have the right to express my opinion as a taxpayer.
I support Israel but know they make errors in judgements and will ultimatly need to compromise as will the Palistinians
My point is simple we need a just peace for both sides.
Money aside - we give plenty to all - security and a future is needed for both.
You are entitled to your view but it is a bit myopic.”
I also have the right to express my opinion as a taxpayer.
I support Israel but know they make errors in judgements and will ultimatly need to compromise as will the Palistinians
My point is simple we need a just peace for both sides.
Money aside - we give plenty to all - security and a future is needed for both.
You are entitled to your view but it is a bit myopic.”
erewon replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 17:44:54
“Israel and U.S. are allies. It is no0t a one way street. Israeli citzines make a tremendous contribution to American economy, culture, technology, science and art.
Should Israelis be paid back for that?
Yes, you are entitled to criticize whomever you want, and people who understand the situation are entitled to ignore it.”
Should Israelis be paid back for that?
Yes, you are entitled to criticize whomever you want, and people who understand the situation are entitled to ignore it.”
Mr. Netanyahu, Tear Down This Wall
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 07:14:49 in World
“By "Jews living east of the of the Green Line," you mean Israeli settlers living on Palestinian land in the occupied West Bank, in violation of international law. The illegal presence of the settlers can't be a justification for the illegal wall. The settlers should be moved back to Israel proper, west of the Green Line. But in any event, the existing route of the wall doesn't protect the settlers from proximity to Palestinians, since the current route places Palestinians on the Israeli side of the wall. The best protection for the settlers is to move them back inside the Green Line.”
Manchurian replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 19:35:23
“Thanks for summarizing the situation in clear, indisputable terms, Robert. (Well, indisputable in terms of logic and legality, anyway.) And thanks, too, for a well-considered and well-written article.”
godlypolyglot replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 15:18:23
“Those settlers have children, and you are advocating removing children from their homes. The law you are advocating is eye for an eye, and will not bring any justice to any of the people this involves.”
StCuthbert replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 09:30:09
“What international law are the settlers violating? They are not a population transfer, so don't cite the Geneva Convention. Under international law, the West Bank is not an occupied territory, because the legal definition of occupied requires the territory belong to another sovereign state, which it does not.
"The settlers should be moved back to Israel proper, west of the Green Line."
So you're calling for the Jews living east of the Green Line to be ethnically cleansed? That's a terrible thing to say.”
"The settlers should be moved back to Israel proper, west of the Green Line."
So you're calling for the Jews living east of the Green Line to be ethnically cleansed? That's a terrible thing to say.”
Mr. Netanyahu, Tear Down This Wall
Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 18:55:29 in World
“My problem is the location. If they move it to the Green Line, end of dispute, as far as I am concerned.”
erewon replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 21:23:16
“this is a fairytale for the gullible. In no way shape or form, Mr, Naiman, your commentary be described as fair, impartial or even informative,.”
tallen replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 13:57:38
“Naive.
The security fence is placed where it protects Israeli citizens. There would be NO fence if the Palestinians could accept Israel's existence. Instead, to this day the Palestinians still have a founding charter that calls for the destruction of a sovereign state and the genocide of its population.
That, is a violation of all international law, yet is never addressed.
The fence will disappear when the Palestinians change their public goal that is, per all definitions under international law, a crime against humanity.
Such profound faith in "the green line" is misplaced. The Palestinians themselves have never formally even accepted such a boundary, as evidence by the fact that they have never changed their "charter".”
The security fence is placed where it protects Israeli citizens. There would be NO fence if the Palestinians could accept Israel's existence. Instead, to this day the Palestinians still have a founding charter that calls for the destruction of a sovereign state and the genocide of its population.
That, is a violation of all international law, yet is never addressed.
The fence will disappear when the Palestinians change their public goal that is, per all definitions under international law, a crime against humanity.
Such profound faith in "the green line" is misplaced. The Palestinians themselves have never formally even accepted such a boundary, as evidence by the fact that they have never changed their "charter".”
StCuthbert replied on Nov 09, 2009 at 23:43:37
“OK then. But there are Jews living east of the Green Line. Shouldn't they be protected as well?”
Joint Chiefs: Don't Mess With Dwell Time
Commented Nov 06, 2009 at 13:34:57 in World
“That hadn't occurred to me. In my first draft, it said "Winter is upon us," and then that phrase wafted into my head, and I couldn't resist it. Maybe because it was cold here that day.”
"Lessons in Disaster": If Obama Caves to the Pentagon, He's No Jack Kennedy
Commented Oct 29, 2009 at 12:24:53 in World
“I totally agree - the point seems obvious - that just because the majority of Americans say something, doesn't make it so. If the majority of Americans say 2+2=5, it's still 4.
However, in the present case, "Afghanistan = Vietnam," this is largely a political judgment rather than a purely military one, and political judgments are judgments that the majority of Americans are supremely and uniquely qualified to make. If the majority of Americans say, "we don't support this war," that should be decisive.”
However, in the present case, "Afghanistan = Vietnam," this is largely a political judgment rather than a purely military one, and political judgments are judgments that the majority of Americans are supremely and uniquely qualified to make. If the majority of Americans say, "we don't support this war," that should be decisive.”
"Lessons in Disaster": If Obama Caves to the Pentagon, He's No Jack Kennedy
Commented Oct 28, 2009 at 08:28:16 in World
“This raises the question of whether the war in Afghanistan is more like Vietnam, or more like World War II? World War II ended in the total military defeat and surrender of US adversaries. Is that how the war in Afghanistan is likely to end? Most experts, including US officials, don't think so - they concede that "there is no military solution" and that "the Taliban cannot be defeated militarily." If you concede that the Taliban can't be defeated militarily, then you concede that the war in Afghanistan isn't like World War II in this key respect. Incidentally, a recent CNN poll said that the majority of Americans think Afghanistan has become "another Vietnam."
Most Americans Say "Afghanistan = Vietnam"
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/376”
Most Americans Say "Afghanistan = Vietnam"
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/376”
buttonz replied on Oct 29, 2009 at 01:56:00
“I am honored to have one of my posts responded to by a blogger whom I address, thank you.
As a person who works closely with foreign policy you understand that the majority of the public does not always understand the complexities of every issue. Just because the majority of the American public think one thing doesn't mean it's right (WMD's anyone?).
I agree with you that Afghanistan is more like Vietnam than WWII (yet ironically South Vietnam was conquered by WWII style tactics), however comparing the failed aspects of a failed endeavor to every low-intensity we have been involved since is not a strong argument. You state that Obama must remain resilient against Pentagon pressure to increase more troops and expand the war. Then you draw the assumption that this will have the same result as Vietnam. You need to expand on this. Actually all critics of increased deployment need to expand on this. Never mind Vietnam is one of the very few examples of increased deployment failed compared to the many other examples of where it succeeded (Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Tibet, Philippines, Iraq, etc.). The idea of increased troops does not revolve around of a bigger hammer, it is part of a greater strategy of keeping territory from falling to the Taliban thus denying them footholds which cost more lives to take back.”
As a person who works closely with foreign policy you understand that the majority of the public does not always understand the complexities of every issue. Just because the majority of the American public think one thing doesn't mean it's right (WMD's anyone?).
I agree with you that Afghanistan is more like Vietnam than WWII (yet ironically South Vietnam was conquered by WWII style tactics), however comparing the failed aspects of a failed endeavor to every low-intensity we have been involved since is not a strong argument. You state that Obama must remain resilient against Pentagon pressure to increase more troops and expand the war. Then you draw the assumption that this will have the same result as Vietnam. You need to expand on this. Actually all critics of increased deployment need to expand on this. Never mind Vietnam is one of the very few examples of increased deployment failed compared to the many other examples of where it succeeded (Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Tibet, Philippines, Iraq, etc.). The idea of increased troops does not revolve around of a bigger hammer, it is part of a greater strategy of keeping territory from falling to the Taliban thus denying them footholds which cost more lives to take back.”
"Lessons in Disaster": If Obama Caves to the Pentagon, He's No Jack Kennedy
Commented Oct 28, 2009 at 08:22:28 in World
“Correction: Hoh said "I want people in Iowa, people in Arkansas, people in Arizona, to call their congressman and say, 'Listen, I don't think this is right.' " not in his letter of resignation, but in his interview with the Washington Post.
Letter of resignation:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/hp/ssi/wpc/ResignationLetter.pdf
Article in the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/26/AR2009102603394.html”
Letter of resignation:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/hp/ssi/wpc/ResignationLetter.pdf
Article in the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/26/AR2009102603394.html”
McChrystal's 40,000 Troop Hoax
Commented Oct 13, 2009 at 23:57:01 in World
“You're insisting on a particular formulation for reasons that are obvious. But, the fact is, that under the Bush Administration, the Pentagon paid Sunni Arab fighters in the "Awakening" who were previously part of the Sunni Arab insurgency trying to kill American soldiers. This is quite a mainstream idea, and will very likely be put into practice in Afghanistan very soon. See the link to the article given in the text under the words "as a Senate report estimates":
Barack Obama ready to pay Afghan fighters to ditch the Taliban
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6869503.ece”
Barack Obama ready to pay Afghan fighters to ditch the Taliban
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6869503.ece”
Spiritof1982 replied on Oct 14, 2009 at 14:23:43
“I think trying to compare Iraqi insurgents and the Taliban as equal commodities is a little foolish. Each inhabits it's own sphere of reality. Each comes replete with its own set of political, social, and economic concerns. The best you have here is that they are both, largely, of Sunni backgrounds.”
McChrystal's 40,000 Troop Hoax
Commented Oct 13, 2009 at 20:47:53 in World
“I never suggested that they could be bought. Only that deals might cost money.
That could come in the form of jobs or projects. And it could well be the case that it would involve more political flexibility than the U.S. has demonstrated so far.
But recent U.S. press reports indicate that such flexibility may well be in the cards. Already, the Obama Administration has signaled that it does not consider the Afghan Taliban a threat to the United States, and reportedly new guidelines are being issued for local U.S. commanders giving them greater flexibility in negotiating with local insurgents.”
That could come in the form of jobs or projects. And it could well be the case that it would involve more political flexibility than the U.S. has demonstrated so far.
But recent U.S. press reports indicate that such flexibility may well be in the cards. Already, the Obama Administration has signaled that it does not consider the Afghan Taliban a threat to the United States, and reportedly new guidelines are being issued for local U.S. commanders giving them greater flexibility in negotiating with local insurgents.”
Spiritof1982 replied on Oct 14, 2009 at 11:35:10
“By the way, despite the fact that I think you're utterly wrong on this, I do appreciate that you have actually responded to the criticism.”
Spiritof1982 replied on Oct 14, 2009 at 11:34:27
“Naiman replies:
"That could come in the form of jobs or projects. And it could well be the case that it would involve more political flexibility than the U.S. has demonstrated so far."
Whether it's cash in hand or an in-kind bribe, you are still alleging that militant Islamic fundamentalists will accept some kind of kick back from the US and put down their weapons. Seems a little too cute for me. It works in DC but not in AfPak.”
"That could come in the form of jobs or projects. And it could well be the case that it would involve more political flexibility than the U.S. has demonstrated so far."
Whether it's cash in hand or an in-kind bribe, you are still alleging that militant Islamic fundamentalists will accept some kind of kick back from the US and put down their weapons. Seems a little too cute for me. It works in DC but not in AfPak.”
BevfromNYC replied on Oct 13, 2009 at 21:17:49
“Do you actually read what you write? No matter what you may think you wrote, you are suggesting that we buy them off.”
Nobel Committee, Strategic As Ever, Taps Obama for Peace Prize
Commented Oct 09, 2009 at 18:52:16 in World
“Here's what Tutu said:
Archbishop Desmond Tutu
"What wonderful recognition of someone who has already made such an impact on our planet with regards to the Muslim world, nuclear disarmament, climate change and, to some extent, the Middle East. He has reached out to the Arab world, including Iran, and North Korea.
In a way, it's an award — coming near the beginning of the first term of office of a relatively young President — that anticipates an even greater contribution towards making our world a safer place for all. It is an award that speaks to the promise of President Obama's message of hope."
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1929393,00.html”
Archbishop Desmond Tutu
"What wonderful recognition of someone who has already made such an impact on our planet with regards to the Muslim world, nuclear disarmament, climate change and, to some extent, the Middle East. He has reached out to the Arab world, including Iran, and North Korea.
In a way, it's an award — coming near the beginning of the first term of office of a relatively young President — that anticipates an even greater contribution towards making our world a safer place for all. It is an award that speaks to the promise of President Obama's message of hope."
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1929393,00.html”
Nobel Committee, Strategic As Ever, Taps Obama for Peace Prize
Commented Oct 09, 2009 at 11:25:27 in World
“I totally agree. That's why I wrote:
In giving this award, the Nobel Committee is telling these right-wing forces to back off. And it's sending a message of encouragement to those Americans who put Obama in office:
"Showing signs of significant improvement. Keep up the good work."
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/nobel-committee-strategic_b_314980.html”
In giving this award, the Nobel Committee is telling these right-wing forces to back off. And it's sending a message of encouragement to those Americans who put Obama in office:
"Showing signs of significant improvement. Keep up the good work."
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/nobel-committee-strategic_b_314980.html”
Nobel Committee, Strategic As Ever, Taps Obama for Peace Prize
Commented Oct 09, 2009 at 09:07:32 in World
“I don't contest your point. Both Bishop Tutu then and President Obama now have accomplished a great deal. But my point is that what the Committee had its eye on then and what it has its eye on now is what could be accomplished if current efforts succeed.”
BiBiJan replied on Oct 09, 2009 at 10:06:22
“Thanks for the reply. I beleive you are totally right. The committee is proactive, consideing Rabin-vs-Netaniyahu, El-Baradai-vs-Cheney, Ebadi-vs-Clergy, etc., there is a definite pattern.”
Is Team Obama Really Rethinking Afghanistan?
Commented Oct 07, 2009 at 09:08:16 in World
“I totally agree that there should be a new Loya Jirga including everyone (unlike before), there there should be a national unity government including insurgents, that there should be international and regional cooperation to back these things.
However, none of that is a substitute for making a political decision that we are 1) not going to add more troops and 2) starting making plans to withdraw our forces by means of a public, negotiated timetable.”
However, none of that is a substitute for making a political decision that we are 1) not going to add more troops and 2) starting making plans to withdraw our forces by means of a public, negotiated timetable.”
IMF Gives $164 Million to Coup Government in Honduras, Following Familiar Pattern
Commented Sep 17, 2009 at 14:04:43 in World
“Note:
"This column was published by The Guardian Unlimited on September 3, 2009."
On September 4, CEPR issued the following press release:
IMF May Withhold $164 Million Allocated to Honduras
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/press-releases/press-releases/imf-may-withold-aid-honduras/”
"This column was published by The Guardian Unlimited on September 3, 2009."
On September 4, CEPR issued the following press release:
IMF May Withhold $164 Million Allocated to Honduras
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/press-releases/press-releases/imf-may-withold-aid-honduras/”
GObama! US Agrees to Talks with Iran
Commented Sep 13, 2009 at 14:09:47 in World
“There is no flip-flop. Obama promised to engage Iran diplomatically, and that is what he is doing. Obama was quite clear about his promise during the campaign. Hillary challenged him on this point and she lost. McCain challenged him on this point and he lost. Welcome to democracy.”
DanialThom replied on Sep 18, 2009 at 10:42:53
“The problem with your post and your position is that things have changed since the election. Iran has fixed an election and is currently brutalizing people for protesting its government's corruption.
First, Obama threw the Iranian people under the bus by refusing condemn the Iranian governments actions. Now he's engaging in "talks" with an arguably illegitimate governement. Its pure weakness. Frankly, it makes him a world Joker.”
First, Obama threw the Iranian people under the bus by refusing condemn the Iranian governments actions. Now he's engaging in "talks" with an arguably illegitimate governement. Its pure weakness. Frankly, it makes him a world Joker.”
wanttruth replied on Sep 14, 2009 at 02:47:06
“Well said.”
GObama! US Agrees to Talks with Iran
Commented Sep 13, 2009 at 14:05:28 in World
“I agree with you that the plain meaning of the NPT is fairly clear. Although it does not explicitly say that countries have the right to enrich uranium, it does say, as you point out, that countries have the right to "research" and "production" of nuclear energy "for peaceful purposes" "without discrimination.
Brazil, a signatory of the NPT, enriches uranium and there is no fuss.
That would imply that so long as it is for "peaceful purposes," Iran has the right to enrich uranium.
Of course the U.S. and some other countries contest that Iran is enriching uranium "for peaceful purposes." But the NPT has a framework for addressing this question: international inspections. That is the direction of a peaceful diplomatic resolution of the dispute over Iran's nuclear program, as Dreyfuss pointed out in the Nation article I cited. If the U.S. or other countries aren't satisfied with the current inspection regime, they should negotiate a stronger one. That's what talks are for.”
Brazil, a signatory of the NPT, enriches uranium and there is no fuss.
That would imply that so long as it is for "peaceful purposes," Iran has the right to enrich uranium.
Of course the U.S. and some other countries contest that Iran is enriching uranium "for peaceful purposes." But the NPT has a framework for addressing this question: international inspections. That is the direction of a peaceful diplomatic resolution of the dispute over Iran's nuclear program, as Dreyfuss pointed out in the Nation article I cited. If the U.S. or other countries aren't satisfied with the current inspection regime, they should negotiate a stronger one. That's what talks are for.”
GObama! US Agrees to Talks with Iran
Commented Sep 13, 2009 at 13:55:46 in World
“I did not vote for Bush. But after the Supreme Court declared that he was the winner of the 2000 election - despite the fact that Gore would have won Florida if there had been a full recount - I accepted the fact that Bush was President. So did most Americans. So did the world.
Diplomacy is an interaction between states. You want an agreement with China, you have to deal with the government of China, whether you like them or not.”
Diplomacy is an interaction between states. You want an agreement with China, you have to deal with the government of China, whether you like them or not.”
GObama! US Agrees to Talks with Iran
Commented Sep 13, 2009 at 09:18:44 in World
“There are other millions of people in Iran who say that President Ahmadinejad is their head of state. It's not the role of the U.N. to take the side of a particular faction within a country against its government. The U.N. is an organization of states. Imagine if after the 2000 election someone would have suggested that President Bush not be allowed to attend the U.N. because he was not the legitimate President of the United States. Would anyone at the U.N. have taken such a suggestion seriously? No.”
joabear replied on Sep 13, 2009 at 13:16:32
“LOL, how interesting that you dismiss hundreds of others that say He is not the President.
Did you vote for Bush??”
Did you vote for Bush??”
evagorman replied on Sep 13, 2009 at 11:51:47
“Yes, except for the fact that Obama won the election fair and square.”
GObama! US Agrees to Talks with Iran
Commented Sep 12, 2009 at 17:48:47 in World
“The UN "allows" President Ahmadinejad to come to New York City because he is a head of state. All heads of state are allowed to travel to the UN under the terms of the treaty between the US and the UN. Any US attempt to prevent President Ahmadinejad from attending the UN session would be a violation of US treaty obligations to the UN.”
joabear replied on Sep 13, 2009 at 13:14:58
“Robert Naiman: Why do you think Ahmadinejad and his military Junta IRGC, respect international laws?? Do you even know what kind of ideolgoical paradigm drives them to do what they are doing?? Have you ever read any of Ahmadinejad or Khameni's speeches recently in Persian. Have you studied the history of Islamic Republic and the Mahdaviat??
Are you aware that Khamenie is no longer running the show??
Once you've done your homework, you would know that the Islamic Republic will never stop trying to enrich uranium or trying to get nuclear weapons. If they already don't have it that is.
It's great that the Obama is willing to talk to Iran. He needs to rely on his own judgement after careful research of this entity (the Islamic Republic) instead of getting second hand advice from iran-experts with their own ideological agenda. Obama needs to talk to Ahmadinejad face-to-face to get a visceral feeling of what kind of man this monster is like.”
Are you aware that Khamenie is no longer running the show??
Once you've done your homework, you would know that the Islamic Republic will never stop trying to enrich uranium or trying to get nuclear weapons. If they already don't have it that is.
It's great that the Obama is willing to talk to Iran. He needs to rely on his own judgement after careful research of this entity (the Islamic Republic) instead of getting second hand advice from iran-experts with their own ideological agenda. Obama needs to talk to Ahmadinejad face-to-face to get a visceral feeling of what kind of man this monster is like.”
evagorman replied on Sep 13, 2009 at 02:57:42
“My point is there are millions of people in Iran who say he's not their "head of state."”
Dear Britain: "Get Out of Afghanistan, So We Can Get Out"
Commented Sep 06, 2009 at 09:47:20 in World
“Well, *I* was gracious. I tried to convince my friends to hold a pro-French demonstration outside the French Embassy in Washington.
Anyway, we are in a different time now. The majority of U.S. public opinion is with us.”
Anyway, we are in a different time now. The majority of U.S. public opinion is with us.”
To Defend Democracy, U.S. Must Call the Coup
Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 17:23:26 in World
“Reaction from CEPR:
State Department Steps Against Honduran Coup Don't Go Far Enough
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/press-releases/press-releases/state-department-steps-coup/”
State Department Steps Against Honduran Coup Don't Go Far Enough
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/press-releases/press-releases/state-department-steps-coup/”
ModernTimes1 replied on Sep 04, 2009 at 02:12:40
“Yankee, keep hands off South America..... ehhhh, except when it fits one political preoccupation and not the other. Bravo!”
To Defend Democracy, U.S. Must Call the Coup
Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 17:18:41 in World
“Here's a little more detail. The NYT article strongly suggests that MCC will be stopped.
U.S. Terminates $22 Million in Aid to Honduras
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/world/americas/04honduras.html”
U.S. Terminates $22 Million in Aid to Honduras
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/04/world/americas/04honduras.html”
To Defend Democracy, U.S. Must Call the Coup
Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 14:37:07 in World
“From your mouth to God's ear.
Termination of Assistance and Other Measures Affecting the De Facto Regime in Honduras
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2009/sept/128608.htm”
Termination of Assistance and Other Measures Affecting the De Facto Regime in Honduras
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2009/sept/128608.htm”
hp blogger Laura Carlsen replied on Sep 03, 2009 at 16:52:53
“Robert, Well, not just from my mouth. Thanks to thousands of US citizens who pressured their representatives and the State Department to do the right thing here. We still don´t have the elusive legal declaration and need to know what exactly is canceled but the statement is certainly a step forward. Thanks for the link.”
Coup Protestor Gang-Raped by Honduran Police
Commented Aug 27, 2009 at 17:32:54 in World
“I gather that you are now conceding by your silence that you made up your claim about the IACHR out of whole cloth, although you won't admit it explicitly. I think the credibility of all of your comments should be viewed in this light.
You criticize the proposed amnesty of the San Jose Accords because it would protect -temporarily, at least - Zelaya from prosecution for his alleged crimes. You claim that "Hondurans" share your views - but you don't cite any evidence for this claim. I don't doubt that the privileged elites whose interests you represent in your comments generally share your views. But isn't that what's at stake in the coup? Whether those privileged elites can impose their interests by force, or whether the majority of poor Hondurans can have a say.
As you surely know, the proposed amnesty of the San Jose Accord is two-sided. It would also protect the coup leaders from prosecution. You don't seem to have any problem with that, which I think is an instructive fact about where you are coming from.”
You criticize the proposed amnesty of the San Jose Accords because it would protect -temporarily, at least - Zelaya from prosecution for his alleged crimes. You claim that "Hondurans" share your views - but you don't cite any evidence for this claim. I don't doubt that the privileged elites whose interests you represent in your comments generally share your views. But isn't that what's at stake in the coup? Whether those privileged elites can impose their interests by force, or whether the majority of poor Hondurans can have a say.
As you surely know, the proposed amnesty of the San Jose Accord is two-sided. It would also protect the coup leaders from prosecution. You don't seem to have any problem with that, which I think is an instructive fact about where you are coming from.”
Coup Protestor Gang-Raped by Honduran Police
Commented Aug 25, 2009 at 16:32:54 in World
“UPDATE: Human Rights Watch put out a very good statement today (8/25), highlighting the IACHR report, noting, among other things, the sexual assault allegations, and urging the U.S. to exert more pressure for the restoration of democracy. Kudos to Human Rights Watch.
Honduras: Rights Report Shows Need for Increased International Pressure
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/08/25/honduras-rights-report-shows-need-increased-international-pressure”
Honduras: Rights Report Shows Need for Increased International Pressure
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/08/25/honduras-rights-report-shows-need-increased-international-pressure”
JGallardo replied on Aug 27, 2009 at 16:48:28
“A key to democratic progress in Honduras is the rejection of a General Amnesty as expressed in the San Jose Proposal. Hondurans demand that Zelaya, and anybody else for that matter, face the crimes they have been charged with. Some of Zelaya’s crimes imply that he cease immediately in his office.
Ironically, Manuel Zelaya would not be the first, but the second generation of Zelayas to be pardoned with a General Amnesty. Manuel Zelaya Senior, his father, served 7 years of a prison term for murdering leftist protestors in the 70s, amongst them, one priest. Still more ironically, Zelaya Senior was released with the Amnesty that was a part of Arias’s peace proposals in the 90s and earned him his Nobel Prize.
Mr. Zelaya has 18 counts against him, three with outstanding arrest warrants. The people have seen the pictures of duffle bags filled with 40 Million Lempiras, led out from the Central Bank's vault and later, sequence numbers were found in Ms Rixi Moncada's last known Hotel room and the pockets of the boy, Obed Murillo, shot in the OAS Airport Fiasco. His Cabinet members have their own counts and arrest warrants
Why do foreign countries want to force us to forget about these crimes? Why do they want us to accept a treaty that disregards our laws and our Constitution? Why do they want to brush away Zelaya’s criminal behaviour?
You cannot commit to a POLITICAL “solution” that disregards the LEGAL issues.”
Ironically, Manuel Zelaya would not be the first, but the second generation of Zelayas to be pardoned with a General Amnesty. Manuel Zelaya Senior, his father, served 7 years of a prison term for murdering leftist protestors in the 70s, amongst them, one priest. Still more ironically, Zelaya Senior was released with the Amnesty that was a part of Arias’s peace proposals in the 90s and earned him his Nobel Prize.
Mr. Zelaya has 18 counts against him, three with outstanding arrest warrants. The people have seen the pictures of duffle bags filled with 40 Million Lempiras, led out from the Central Bank's vault and later, sequence numbers were found in Ms Rixi Moncada's last known Hotel room and the pockets of the boy, Obed Murillo, shot in the OAS Airport Fiasco. His Cabinet members have their own counts and arrest warrants
Why do foreign countries want to force us to forget about these crimes? Why do they want us to accept a treaty that disregards our laws and our Constitution? Why do they want to brush away Zelaya’s criminal behaviour?
You cannot commit to a POLITICAL “solution” that disregards the LEGAL issues.”


