“While there is no doubt whatever that the Catholic heirarchy and parallel Protestant leaders are morally bankrupt, I think the claim that the Catholic church kidnapped this girl for sex purposes (and the presumably murdered her to keep her quiet) is just too unlikely. I think it is far more likely that the exorcist is delusional. That is probably an essential credential for performing
“That is a gross misreading of the facts. Atheists do not like the intolerant, inhumane and bullying **behavior** of those who believe in gods.
This is the type of stuff that theists do to their fellow human beings. This kind of behavior should never be tolerated, but theists rarely speak up about it. http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/1927002_700b.jpg”
CodyGirl on Jan 30, 2013 at 12:03:13
“I have been bullied by atheists many times. Yes, most certainly, bullying is a human behavior that none of us should tolerate.”
“The problem is that theologians and "good religion" does not or cannot prevent the practice of "bad religion" - and "bad religion" is far and away more prevalent among criminals and mental health victims than "bad atheism".”
besixdouze on Jan 30, 2013 at 16:47:48
“Would you like to show me the studies proving a direct relationship between religion, crime and "mental health victims" (whoever those are?). ”
“Sure. God concepts are incoherent when investigated objectively. There is no consistent revelation about who or what a god is, or how many of them there are. This kind of inconsistency and confusion is a feature of subjective experience and imagination. It is not a feature of anything that is objective, measurable and really there.”
CodyGirl on Jan 30, 2013 at 02:56:03
“Every human being has an understanding of God, even atheists. You are telling me that you don't "believe" in what you think other people believe to be God and believe God to be. Chances are that whatever you think other people believe about God is not what they actually believe of/about God at all. Of course we humans don't have one single homogeneous understanding of God because we all have different experiences and understandings of & relationships with our reality. However, any understanding (or misunderstanding) of God has no impact on God or God's "existence" (whatever our understanding of what "existence" means). Apparently, the concept of not "really there" is a part of your understanding of God, but I wonder, where is "there" that God is supposed to be and not for you?”
“It is religion, not science, that claims to be perfectly correct. The scientific method is built on the notion that very little is 100 percent certain and can be modified or overthrown in the face of new evidence.
Scientists and statisticians are trained to correctly use and correctly interpret statistical analysis of data. The peer review process will rip poor statistical choice, analysis and interpretation to shreds. It is the general public who can be confused or hoodwinked by those interpreting statistics in ignorance and/or with a vested agenda. Peer review by the general public is a case of the numerically naive and biased leading those who are just as disadvantaged.
It is not, therefore, all a matter of blind belief. Some people are considerably blinder than others.”
Jan 7, 2013 at 22:58:25
“As a clinical psychologist who has lived in several countries, including the USA, I believe it is important to note that the happiness-spiritual-god connection is based on research in the US and does not apply well outside that country. The US is religion-soaked and people who do not fit into this cultural norm find it difficult to have many of their basic social needs met. In fact, it is the cause of some emotional strain when people with little or no god belief have to pretend to have such beliefs in order to have these social needs met. Any socially stigmatized group, whether they are Jews in an antisemitic environment, women in an anti-feminist environment, blacks in a racist environment, gays in a fundamentalist Christian environment or atheists in a heavily theist community, will suffer from significantly more depression than the dominant repressing group. This is not a function of their physical, racial, sexual or godless characteristics but a negative statement about the kind of intolerant community in which they are forced to live.”
maxfax on Jan 27, 2013 at 09:43:40
“Absolutely accurate, having lived through one of these environments, was like living in hostility. ”
Steven Tanner on Jan 11, 2013 at 14:08:02
“Thank you for such a well-informed and clearly written comment. This atheist (who's fairly happy in godless Santa Cruz County, California) appreciates it immensely!”
Elleni on Jan 11, 2013 at 14:01:25
“Thank you for pointing that out!! Our dominant social fabric centers around churches and religious holidays. Sitting in a church isn't inherently more fulfilling than a walk in the hills- but it's the prescribed behavior for our society.”
Robert Wagers on Jan 8, 2013 at 03:52:06
“Thank you for saying something that doesn't reflect WASP indoctrination.”
“The findings from multiple studies comparing measures of societal health and the number of god believers in a region prove your thesis to be false. The less religious the region, the more healthy, contented, less criminal and more egalitarian the culture; the more religious the region the sicker the society.”
“I don't know what branch of science that you consider yourself to be a practioner of, but whatever it is it does not seem to have taught you how to sift and rate the validity of evidence or how to test knowledge claims. It is also a branch that appears to be quite ignorant of the neurosciences and the serious failings of human perception, attention and memory.
As a better scientist, I find your argument both naive and ignorant.”
avicenna on Mar 18, 2012 at 21:15:07
“The testimony of your scientific accumen is clear based on how much evidence it takes for you to come to your conclusions. I hope insight is not forever an elusive entity.”