“am i speaking against christianity or even against any religion? no, so dont put words in my mouth. the reason its racist its because they are pushing western and eurocentric ideas of beauty. seriously look at the complete lack of diversity within the movement, they emphasize white, skinny and young and above all ARE NOT EVEN LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE THEY CLAIM TO SPEAK FOR”
Savojah on Apr 6, 2013 at 12:27:35
“Ok, so you would be ok with Sharia Law. Got it. If pushing the freedom for anyone woman of any color to be able to express themselves in a way that is deemed humane, then call me racist.”
“have you? yes patriarchy is prevalent in islamic countries but its also prevalent in the REST OF THE WORLD for example look at this country the way women police their bodies and dress in order to please the male gaze ex: shaving, high heels and PLASTIC SURGERY.
these women are not listening to Muslim women or even Muslim feminists, which should be the very first thing, as a feminist, that one should do”
“you know the islam world is HUGE and yes of course there are many aspects that are problematic that derive from patriarchy but the problem with FEMEN is that its colonial, do you see any women of color especially any muslim women being represented? many muslim feminist and women CHOOSE what to wear and not wear”
“first of all, have you ever read the quran before judging? second, its the whole savior complex where eurocentric women have to "save" brown women from their oppression by dictating to them whay they should/should not wear without even considering the fact that many muslim women CHOOSE to wear a hijab or a chador”
Robert SF on Apr 5, 2013 at 19:28:25
“There are two flaws in the argument that some Muslim women choose to wear hijabs and even burqas. The first flaw is that it sidesteps the real issue. The real issue isn't that some women choose to wear the clothing. The issue is that women don't have the freedom to choose NOT to wear the clothing.
The second flaw is that it ignores that Islam clothing is the LEAST of the Islam expressions of misogyny. What about punishing rape victims? What about the honor killings? What about the second class status under Sharia?
Face it. Islam is nothing but 7th century barbarism.”
i understand their reasoning for backlashing against the male gaze and how patriarchy 'owns' their bodies BUT this is still no excuse for orientalist and racist attitudes. ditch the savior complex and begin to understand the context of cultures. just like some women CHOOSE to shave some CHOOSE what to wear and not wear”
Savojah on Apr 5, 2013 at 10:48:29
“So how come when you speak against Christianity, you're not called racist, but you are if you speak against Islam? For the billionth time, your not racist if you're against an ideology.”
BustMyChops on Apr 5, 2013 at 09:59:17
“The context in which a culture brutally oppresses women and denies freedom of speech doesn't interest me in the slightest. Oh ... and what context is that?”
mandyjacinda on Apr 5, 2013 at 09:46:47
“Have you been to a Islamic country? If you have, either your blind or condone the behavior the men exhibit, which would make me responding to your comment pointless.
In any event, most women in muslim countries do not "Choose" what they wear. There are Major repercussions if they do otherwise. Which is precisely the point these brave women are making.”
Robert SF on Apr 5, 2013 at 09:34:36
“What's Orientalist or racist about it? Under Islam, women can't choose what to wear or not to wear. That's their whole point, and it's an accurate one.”
“old white men telling women what to do. where's the freedom in that?”
notanaxkiller on Oct 25, 2012 at 06:18:00
“Young women murdering babies..where's the crime in that?”
magpie411 on Oct 25, 2012 at 06:09:16
“don't forget that these same white men who want "smaller government"....just as long as it
gets to tell women what to do with their bodies...these guys are facing extinction and we all need to wave bye as they sink back into the primordial oooze they rose from.”