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Unemployment Programs In 40 States About To Go Broke
Commented Dec 22, 2009 at 01:44:59 in Politics
“"The shortfalls are putting pressure on governments to either raise taxes or shrink the aid payments."
When are the naive going to accept that after deregulation the biggest mistake this country has made was the reduction of taxes to a point we cannot support a viable government? Everyone fails when the government fails, or is that too deep for fat Americans sitting in their lazy boys who can't get their heads out of their rectums.”
When are the naive going to accept that after deregulation the biggest mistake this country has made was the reduction of taxes to a point we cannot support a viable government? Everyone fails when the government fails, or is that too deep for fat Americans sitting in their lazy boys who can't get their heads out of their rectums.”
Dylan Ratigan Apologizes For 'Very Rude' Debbie Wasserman Schultz Interview (VIDEO)
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 19:09:15 in Media
“Debbie Wasserman Schultz is among the best and most honest politicians in Washington right now. I hope she runs for the Senate seat in Florida. They really need someone to represent them that is not covered in the slime that seems to pervade Florida politics (interpret as Republican - the source of all great slime).”
goto1000 replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:15:54
“She came over as anything but honest in those few minutes with Dylan. They flatter to deceive, but when push comes to shove, they revert to their true character.”
WilliamL replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:14:29
“the slime is eqully distributed between both parties-
she has no chance at all of winning a senate seat
FL will have another R governor and both seats filled with Rs
It is a red, even in the South end, red, state-”
she has no chance at all of winning a senate seat
FL will have another R governor and both seats filled with Rs
It is a red, even in the South end, red, state-”
Ford: Buyouts, Early Retirement Offered To All 41,000 Of Its U.S. Hourly Workers
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 19:02:45 in Business
“The responses on this post are reminiscent of 1935. FDR was not a liberal he was in fact a life long conservative. Many of the positions he supported were taken because America was moving very quickly to a violent confrontation between the workers and business. And it was very likely the workers were going to win and the country move towards communism. FDR preserved capitalism in America by regulating it for the benefit of both the workers and the owners.
We have allowed the right wing to destroy those regulations with the inevitable result of returning to a poor suffering working class and an ultra rich owning class. The exact same crisis is now beginning to emerge. People are starting to talk about taking control of the system for the middle class's benefit.
Either Obama will step up and provide change we can believe in - that is a return to regulated capitalism, or the issue will likely be resolved through violence.”
We have allowed the right wing to destroy those regulations with the inevitable result of returning to a poor suffering working class and an ultra rich owning class. The exact same crisis is now beginning to emerge. People are starting to talk about taking control of the system for the middle class's benefit.
Either Obama will step up and provide change we can believe in - that is a return to regulated capitalism, or the issue will likely be resolved through violence.”
EvilCartman replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:58:28
“Obama *is* the right wing.”
Jeff Hannan replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:35:09
“Funny (in a sad way not a humorous one), but I've been thinking this same thing for a while now. Fanned.”
lazercat2008 replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:29:00
“If FDR would not have messed things up, we would all be prosperous communists by now.”
Frustrated in PA replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:13:53
“Excellent post. Fanned.”
Godweiser replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:11:29
“I'm glad someone brought this up. Fanned.”
ChristianEcon.com replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:10:45
“"FDR was not a liberal he was in fact a life long conservati
And on what do you base this "fact"?”
And on what do you base this "fact"?”
cavegal replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:08:03
“Fanned and agree!”
goto1000 replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:06:59
“Wow! Great post. I'm betting on violence this time. Why? Well, look at the smirk Rahm is wearing for a start.”
Key Dem: The Public Option Will Be 'Revisited'
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 18:31:57 in Politics
“Yes it will, but probably by the progressive party when they replace the Dems.”
tomterif replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:21:58
“Considering the rapidity with which the Obama coalition seems at present to be FALLING LIKE A DECK OF CARDS [which is defintely NOT good political news for progressives, no matter how much various progressives rant about how "Obama stabbed them in the back", and ESPECIALLY with all the "absolutely spineless, for the long run" progressives one sees here, talking about "completely baling on the system", etc.], and the absolute WHIRLWHIND of an electoral backlash that's seems clearly now headed towards the political left in this country [including virtually ALL Dems up for re-election, with "blue dogs" being "the safest, but by no means all that safe !"] in the soon upcoming 2010 major Congressional elections, I suggest you strictly look at your musings about "progressives replacing the Democratic party" as being entirely within the realm of "fun political science fiction" for you at present, or in anything like the foreseeable future, ScreenName, and perhaps you'd just as soon go see the "Avatar" movie, instead.
I've heard it's "quite well done", and it'd also have what I guess could be called the "advantage" of being "more realistic" than your notion of "progressives replacing the Dems".”
I've heard it's "quite well done", and it'd also have what I guess could be called the "advantage" of being "more realistic" than your notion of "progressives replacing the Dems".”
tomterif replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:15:27
“The simple fact is that there are perhaps AT MOST 20 percent "progressives" [mid to extreme left liberal Democrats] in the voting electorate of this country.
And the Democratic party coalition, that allowed them to do well in garnering votes, in the '06 and '08 elections, was very much a "big tent" coalition party, containing, among other major factions, a quite large block of QUITE conservative "blue dog" Democrats [particularly in the South, the Mountain States, etc.,]
Therefore, all of your talk here, ScreenName05, about progressives "replacing" the Democratic Party, is somewhat LESS realistic, and "fact based", at the present time, in anything like the politically foreseeable future, as any of the MOST far out and incredible scenes, and situations, in this new "Avatar" movie.
And that's considering the [modest] electoral strength of progressives in the LAST election, when a variety of situations coalesced to have the strength of the so-called progressive movement at a relative PEAK.”
And the Democratic party coalition, that allowed them to do well in garnering votes, in the '06 and '08 elections, was very much a "big tent" coalition party, containing, among other major factions, a quite large block of QUITE conservative "blue dog" Democrats [particularly in the South, the Mountain States, etc.,]
Therefore, all of your talk here, ScreenName05, about progressives "replacing" the Democratic Party, is somewhat LESS realistic, and "fact based", at the present time, in anything like the politically foreseeable future, as any of the MOST far out and incredible scenes, and situations, in this new "Avatar" movie.
And that's considering the [modest] electoral strength of progressives in the LAST election, when a variety of situations coalesced to have the strength of the so-called progressive movement at a relative PEAK.”
BeasleysMom replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 18:54:15
“Hey, 05, by the time progressive could put together an alliance that big and powerful, we will all be d ea d and gone--from old age! LOL”
Awake-and-Sing replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 18:47:45
“Where is this Progressive Party?
It's like the public option. Everybody wants it, but there is no way to make it actually manifest.
I am ready to sign-up for it today.
I so wish Feingold, Sanders and Dean would actually start it. I would do it myself if I knew how.”
It's like the public option. Everybody wants it, but there is no way to make it actually manifest.
I am ready to sign-up for it today.
I so wish Feingold, Sanders and Dean would actually start it. I would do it myself if I knew how.”
tompoe replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 18:36:28
“Members of the Progressive Party will have neither a D or R next to their name.”
Ford: Buyouts, Early Retirement Offered To All 41,000 Of Its U.S. Hourly Workers
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 18:29:57 in Business
“Here's an idea, lets ship all of our jobs overseas and see if we have an economy left.
Oops, sorry we already did that.
One more round and we should be able to get rid of the unions entirely, then we can start relying on the good intentions of ultra rich conservatives to make America the strongest nation in the world.”
Oops, sorry we already did that.
One more round and we should be able to get rid of the unions entirely, then we can start relying on the good intentions of ultra rich conservatives to make America the strongest nation in the world.”
bakunin replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:07:38
“I find the good sense of most of these posts bracing. So, what in the hell can we do about it?”
Krugman: Health Care Fight Shows The Senate Has Become Dangerously Dysfunctional
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 18:24:58 in Politics
“If things are so great in Texas why are 16.3% of the people living in poverty (California is at 12.4%, national average 13%). Why is the medium income of Texans at $19,617 well below the national average of $21,587 (California is at $22,711)? (See the US Census data at http://qui
Texas also has among the worst records in the U.S. on health care, air quality, water quality, and education. Kind of like living in a third world economy.
Plus Texas is the only state that has banned marriage entirely. The result of some very smart legislators.”
Texas also has among the worst records in the U.S. on health care, air quality, water quality, and education. Kind of like living in a third world economy.
Plus Texas is the only state that has banned marriage entirely. The result of some very smart legislators.”
cavegal replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:36:48
“Yes those things are true about Texas but it sure as heck ain't Michigan down here where you have cities with unemployment rates of 50% as in Detroit. You can still buy a 3 bedroom 2 bath house inside the city limits of Austin for under $200,000. It won't be a McMansion but it will be in a safe neighborhood.
By the way I have lived in the Middle East for 20 years and I can assure you that despite all of the issues we have here, it is definitely not in 3rd world status.
Californians by the way are moving into Austin, Dallas and Houston in record numbers.”
By the way I have lived in the Middle East for 20 years and I can assure you that despite all of the issues we have here, it is definitely not in 3rd world status.
Californians by the way are moving into Austin, Dallas and Houston in record numbers.”
George Braque replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:03:23
“Actually, as someone who has lived in four states, including Mass and NY, I can say that the standard of living is generally higher than other states. The poverty rate, I think, is largely affected by statistics from the Rio Grande Valley, which borders Mexico and is mostly comprised of first generation or newly entered immigrants. It's a great area of Texas, actually, but one of the poorest parts of the country. The economy in Texas has generally done well, though I don't think Gov. Perry, who is a moron. His comments about seceding were idiotic and 99 percent of Texans, I believe, think it's just b.s. rhetoric. It's easy, however, for others to fall for the Texas stereotypes, having witnessed Bush and watched a lot of TV”
Krugman: Health Care Fight Shows The Senate Has Become Dangerously Dysfunctional
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 15:34:06 in Politics
“California is going broke because of the U.S. government. California only gets back about $.64 on the dollar for every dollar paid into federal taxes - California citizens pay more federal taxes then the bottom 20 states combined. This is a direct result of the unfair and uneven representation in the U.S. Senate. If it weren't for that problem California would be one of the wealthiest places on earth.
Even so, California's problems are primarily caused by its silly legislative system requiring a super majority to pass a budget, not by a lack of wealth. The same sort of problem the Republicans now want to inflict on the entire U.S. If you think California is in trouble then get ready to share the load, cause if the Senate continues in its current behavior with the minority blocking all legislative action, the U.S. is not far behind.”
Even so, California's problems are primarily caused by its silly legislative system requiring a super majority to pass a budget, not by a lack of wealth. The same sort of problem the Republicans now want to inflict on the entire U.S. If you think California is in trouble then get ready to share the load, cause if the Senate continues in its current behavior with the minority blocking all legislative action, the U.S. is not far behind.”
chrisfrmchi2 replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 16:14:25
“they obviously wouldn't let your comment go through to me cause you were wrong.
but to answer.
Texas Mexicans are different from California Mexicans. In that they would sooner align themselves with Texas than the California ones would align with cali. Plus you aren't taking into consideration texas would have a flood of reinforcements from the north (former texans). Along with terrain and whatnot which is tremendously different in tactical importance. The southern california area is the danger zone not Texas. Will Texas lose territory in the beginning yes but Mexico cannot spare supplies for both texas and california and for texas the terrain isn't in mexico's favor due to rio grande.
There is a publicly available war game by the pentagon that detailing this. Its a shame you are too partisan to understand such things.”
but to answer.
Texas Mexicans are different from California Mexicans. In that they would sooner align themselves with Texas than the California ones would align with cali. Plus you aren't taking into consideration texas would have a flood of reinforcements from the north (former texans). Along with terrain and whatnot which is tremendously different in tactical importance. The southern california area is the danger zone not Texas. Will Texas lose territory in the beginning yes but Mexico cannot spare supplies for both texas and california and for texas the terrain isn't in mexico's favor due to rio grande.
There is a publicly available war game by the pentagon that detailing this. Its a shame you are too partisan to understand such things.”
Krugman: Health Care Fight Shows The Senate Has Become Dangerously Dysfunctional
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 15:24:16 in Politics
“Uh, we do live in a Democracy where the majority rules. There are minority protections but they do not give the minority any rights to dictate to the majority. This is the first time in the history of the Senate when a minority has attempted to stop all legislative activity. If it continues it will likely result in a country torn apart, that has been the result throughout history when this situation occurred (the Whiskey Rebellion of 1794, the Southampton Insurrection, the Civil War).
The Republicans are risking a lot more then people realize - they are going down a road that could lead to civil war or complete government collapse. We have avoided this problem multiple times. But we have also failed to avoid the problem in at least one instance and it cost America deeply.
I for one do not wish to see us fail again.”
The Republicans are risking a lot more then people realize - they are going down a road that could lead to civil war or complete government collapse. We have avoided this problem multiple times. But we have also failed to avoid the problem in at least one instance and it cost America deeply.
I for one do not wish to see us fail again.”
jinxed replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 16:47:33
“This is not the "first time in history", the first time was Bob Dole's little fluster cluck that cost the Dems their majority in '94. He did everything he could using the filibuster to block all legislation the blamed the Dem Congress as a "do-nothing" Congress. The GOPers are just replaying Bob Dole's playbook X10.”
Krugman: Health Care Fight Shows The Senate Has Become Dangerously Dysfunctional
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 15:14:58 in Politics
“What personal freedoms, the freedom to be bankrupt and destitute, or the freedom to be hung if you are not?”
Krugman: Health Care Fight Shows The Senate Has Become Dangerously Dysfunctional
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 15:12:46 in Politics
“It might work, if republican presidents and the senate had not been stuffing the judiciary with right wing libertarian judges for the last 40 years. Now it is unlikely anyone has standing to bring an action in federal court, on any matter, unless the right wing judges are in favor of the outcome.”
chrisfrmchi2 replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 15:26:25
“ya now they are libertarian judges...s
left/right is fake”
left/right is fake”
Krugman: Health Care Fight Shows The Senate Has Become Dangerously Dysfunctional
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 15:09:57 in Politics
“Texas has threatened to secede, but California actually could do it - taking 12% of the U.S. population and 25% of the U.S. economy - California would likely be included in the G8.
This would likely bankrupt most of the smaller states who live off the federal dole as the disproportionate amount of taxes paid by Californians would suddenly dry up. If the Senate stays in gridlock as the supposed conservative senators from the smaller states just say no to anything the big states put forward, it might just become a viable option to consider.”
This would likely bankrupt most of the smaller states who live off the federal dole as the disproportionate amount of taxes paid by Californians would suddenly dry up. If the Senate stays in gridlock as the supposed conservative senators from the smaller states just say no to anything the big states put forward, it might just become a viable option to consider.”
Chopin replied on Dec 22, 2009 at 00:01:06
“Part 1 of 2
In the direction and speed this imperial nation is spiralling down, there's rational ground + strong possibility this nation could breakup, splinter off into many regional sovereign states on pragmatic economic, geographical, ethnocentric political cleavages, analogous to the RomanEmpire in its latter weakened stages splintering into eastern + western RomanEmpires --- eastern being ByzantineEmpire centered around Constantinople, and western continued being centered around Rome. It's no idle speculation. Here're some main reasons:--
1)UNSUSTAINABLE national debt ($12Trillion growing EXPONENTIALLY rapidly at $3.81Billi
http://www
Few people feel responsible for it. This pervasive people's attitude is reflected in Congressional attitudes, and more crucially in FederalReserve centralbank's attitudes in loose credit policies and unrestrained moneyprinting. "It's Washington's problem." Inside the Beltway, it's NOBODY's problem.
2)Washington is proficient at two major malignancies --- creating perpetual wars, and creating unlimited national debts by printing unlimited quantities of paper Dollars.
http://www
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"USA's balance of payments deficits is so strong and irreversible, that we must accept that at some future date there will be a run against the dollar, probably the kind of disorderly run that precipitates a global financial crisis." --- Dr. Paul Samuelson in 2005, (Nobel prize winner in economics)”
In the direction and speed this imperial nation is spiralling down, there's rational ground + strong possibility this nation could breakup, splinter off into many regional sovereign states on pragmatic economic, geographical, ethnocentric political cleavages, analogous to the RomanEmpire in its latter weakened stages splintering into eastern + western RomanEmpires --- eastern being ByzantineEmpire centered around Constantinople, and western continued being centered around Rome. It's no idle speculation. Here're some main reasons:--
1)UNSUSTAINABLE national debt ($12Trillion growing EXPONENTIALLY rapidly at $3.81Billi
http://www
Few people feel responsible for it. This pervasive people's attitude is reflected in Congressional attitudes, and more crucially in FederalReserve centralbank's attitudes in loose credit policies and unrestrained moneyprinting. "It's Washington's problem." Inside the Beltway, it's NOBODY's problem.
2)Washington is proficient at two major malignancies --- creating perpetual wars, and creating unlimited national debts by printing unlimited quantities of paper Dollars.
http://www
http://www
http://www
"USA's balance of payments deficits is so strong and irreversible, that we must accept that at some future date there will be a run against the dollar, probably the kind of disorderly run that precipitates a global financial crisis." --- Dr. Paul Samuelson in 2005, (Nobel prize winner in economics)”
George Braque replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 19:06:20
“Texas hasn't threatened to secede. The moronic governor has alluded to it. By the way, it's a myth that Texas has the power to do so. There is no legal mechanism allowing this. I have no idea why Ron Paul and Rick Perry want to bring it up. Texas does have a pretty diverse economy and probably could survive, but no one in Texas that I know would support it at all. It's just b.s. political rhetoric”
JoeTheProgrammer replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 18:36:03
“Bankrupt the smaller states living off the federal dole?
Do you realize California is broke? LOL”
Do you realize California is broke? LOL”
touchman replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 15:15:12
“Yea. California can just be another country going broke like it is now. LOL”
Joseph Stiglitz: 'Significant' Chance The Economy Will Contract In 2010
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 14:59:59 in Business
“Inflation only helps if wage inflation occurs at the same time as price inflation. In recent years the exact opposite has occurred. Wages have actually stayed flat or dropped while prices rose. This is what helped create our current situation - while real inflation was rising under Bush (not the fake inflation reported by the government - Filet Mignon went from $3 a lb to $12 a lb, gas went from $1.35 a gallon to $3.00 a gallon, the price of houses doubled, etc.) real wages were declining and real unemployment was increasing. In addition, Americans maintained their lifestyles by borrowing, primarily against their houses - resulting in the housing bubble and burst.
It is likely that since we have destroyed the unions that a burst of inflation will be accompanied by lower wages, lost jobs, and increased hours for those still working. Corporations turn down their engines when risk increases. As their is no source of borrowing left to Americans, their lifestyles will decline.
This is why people are talking about a downward death spiral into poverty for America. Its real and nothing is being done to counteract it.”
It is likely that since we have destroyed the unions that a burst of inflation will be accompanied by lower wages, lost jobs, and increased hours for those still working. Corporations turn down their engines when risk increases. As their is no source of borrowing left to Americans, their lifestyles will decline.
This is why people are talking about a downward death spiral into poverty for America. Its real and nothing is being done to counteract it.”
SuperBunny replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 15:05:21
“You're right. We are on the path to permanent economic and fiscal failure.”
Joseph Stiglitz: 'Significant' Chance The Economy Will Contract In 2010
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 14:50:42 in Business
“Excellent post.”
Big Labor, Big Concerns: Obama's Approach Causing Tension
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 14:46:03 in Politics
“Yes, holding your guns, a good strategy if you want the Dems to keep committing suicide.”
Worst Companies To Work For: Glassdoor.com's List (PHOTOS, POLL)
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 13:55:12 in Business
“Where are the health insurance companies and the big banks. Worst is a matter of perspective. I personally don't want to know anyone working for health insurance companies or big banks.”
Jeff Enabe replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 14:13:55
“The average bank employee at the big firms got $250,000 in bonuses. I bet they love their leadership now!”
Lieberman: Obama Never Pressed Me On Public Option
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 13:52:03 in Politics
“Either you can't read or you are purposely ignoring the statements above. Msquad99 said the American people were in favor of the public option. In fact I have seen polls that show 78% of Americans in favor of the public option.
What they are not in favor of is this watered down bill that pours even more cash into the pockets of the big insurance companies.”
What they are not in favor of is this watered down bill that pours even more cash into the pockets of the big insurance companies.”
Krugman: Health Care Fight Shows The Senate Has Become Dangerously Dysfunctional
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 13:45:04 in Politics
“No, the Senate was suppose to provide thoughtful analysis and consideration of legislation rushed through the House and performed by more senior politicians. It was created in a day when there were no where near the population differences that exist today and Senators were elected by state legislatures, not by the populations in those states. Plus - the Senate is part of the legislative body - not the administrative body. The legislative body is meant to balance the administrative body, your comment about the administration being elected by population makes no sense whatsoever.
The role of the senate has changed, it is now elected by the general population, but is not representative of that population. It is dramatically skewed in favor of small states against the priorities of large states. Further as Mr Krugman discusses there is no basis for the filibuster, other than Senate rules. This rule was created to slow things down and allow deliberation, not stop the legislature from operating - the role it takes on today.
The dangers here are great, legislatures in gridlock have historically brought down entire countries as the different factions bitterly fight to the end for their narrow goals. That is what we are facing today, and the outcome is not making anyone happy.”
The role of the senate has changed, it is now elected by the general population, but is not representative of that population. It is dramatically skewed in favor of small states against the priorities of large states. Further as Mr Krugman discusses there is no basis for the filibuster, other than Senate rules. This rule was created to slow things down and allow deliberation, not stop the legislature from operating - the role it takes on today.
The dangers here are great, legislatures in gridlock have historically brought down entire countries as the different factions bitterly fight to the end for their narrow goals. That is what we are facing today, and the outcome is not making anyone happy.”
Krugman: Health Care Fight Shows The Senate Has Become Dangerously Dysfunctional
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 12:59:08 in Politics
“It is time to do away with the filibuster. It is also time to change the Senate into a representative body. The Senate should represent the actual populations of the states - not 2 Senators per state. When this rule was set up there was only marginal differences in population between the states, today we are looking at incredible differences. There are at least 20 states with less than 3 million citizens. These states with less than 10% of the population of America and get 40 votes in the senate (there are 7 states with less than a million citizens). (See http://geo
On the other side are California, New York, Texas, Florida, Illinois, and Pennsylvania with a population of 122 million citizens. Approaching half the U.S. population of 290 million (2003 Pop Estimate - See http://www
It is clear that the structure of the Senate has caused the American people to be held hostage by less than 10% of the population. This needs to change, and it needs to change quickly or we are looking at gridlock for a very long time.”
On the other side are California, New York, Texas, Florida, Illinois, and Pennsylvania with a population of 122 million citizens. Approaching half the U.S. population of 290 million (2003 Pop Estimate - See http://www
It is clear that the structure of the Senate has caused the American people to be held hostage by less than 10% of the population. This needs to change, and it needs to change quickly or we are looking at gridlock for a very long time.”
dizmo4 replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 13:02:31
“Thats what the House is -- representation based upon population.
The Senate is meant to provide equality of representation between big and small states.”
The Senate is meant to provide equality of representation between big and small states.”
SueMVetforObama replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 13:02:04
“Abolish the Senate....
A Rebuttal to Howard Dean: I Am a U.S. Senator, and I Will Vote For This Bill
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 12:29:50 in Politics
“Kirk is a disappointment to the Kennedy legacy. The Senator thinks the progressive party that is likely to replace the Democrats is naive, that this is just a starting point that will grow. This is an ending point - one that will drown the insurance companies in cash. The next round will see the Democratic party split in two and the corporations richer than ever and pouring 10 times as much money into preventing any change.
Who is being kidded here?”
Who is being kidded here?”
Federal Reserve's Failures: How The Central Bank Repeatedly Failed To Grasp The Crisis
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 12:23:27 in Business
“Let the good times roll, we got Bernanke! What could be better than a poke in the eye?”
Senate Health Care Reform Takes Major Compromises
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 14:09:17 in Politics
“The Dems still don't get it. The senators are not who they have to make happy. After the next election 1/3 of them won't be there anymore. In 4 years 2/3s will be gone.
America is not going to forget this betrayal!”
America is not going to forget this betrayal!”
Miketou replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 14:48:50
“Americans are too stupid to remember any of this by the next election.”
jmpurser replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 14:15:14
“Your optimism is pleasant but it flies in the face of about 200 years of history.
We don't punish betrayal by politicians in this country. There's just no downside to selling out.”
We don't punish betrayal by politicians in this country. There's just no downside to selling out.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 13:59:31 in Politics
“We need a third party of progressives now, and we need to change the way the Senate works - it is probably time for a constitutional convention to fix a broken system. California's system has been in gridlock for 20 years - the result a bankrupt state that would rather build prisons then schools and a government in complete gridlock unable to agree on anything.
The U.S. is going down that same road - time to change.”
The U.S. is going down that same road - time to change.”
Artemis34 replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 15:02:35
“We'll need to co-op the existing parties.
When progressives splinter off, conservatives win.”
When progressives splinter off, conservatives win.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 13:54:57 in Politics
“Agree, but probably too little too late.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 13:54:14 in Politics
“The first Amendment to the Constitution in 50 years needs to be one that declares that corporations and other legally created entities are not persons and have no legal rights.”
thrdr replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 14:53:47
“The Supreme Court in January is likely to declare the exact opposite.”
Howard Dean 'Disappointed' White House Didn't Fight For Public Option (VIDEO)
Commented Dec 20, 2009 at 13:51:32 in Politics
“Apparently won't fight for anything - health care reform, still in two wars, no banking regulations, no alternative energy, nothing on education.
Wonder what they will fight for, getting reelected?”
Wonder what they will fight for, getting reelected?”
lemonyashes replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 14:28:01
“They outright said THIS BILL has to pass or we'll lose our majority.”
ErnestineBass replied on Dec 20, 2009 at 14:02:21
“Yep. Click on the link in the above post.”
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