SensibleAmerican's Comments (2200)

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“She would defend the devilhimself.”

“What's her take now? I remember her saying that if Democrats wanted to make policy and control the debate, they should start winning elections. What does she say now we have?”

“Pardon me, but this comment has nothing to do with Health Care, it's merely a reflection of your bias against Obama.

Good night and good luck.”

“That's one of the things that always cracked me up about Bush - even with a teleprompter, the guys could barely string two coherent sentences together.”

“That part about the teleprompter was very origional. You convinced me that this president is good for nothing. I was so overblown by the profundity of that observation that I couldnt make myself read the rest of your post. Too much revalation knocks me out of my chair.

thanks”

“Did the telepromter have mustard covered acorns from Kenya on it ? Blah,Blah,Blah”

“Do you think taking to the streets will make a difference? Those poor and homeless who would do so have already been preempted -- at least in part -- by virtue of "the race card." It's been played ahead of time.

"Socialism" has been the boogieman since Prescott Bush and other oligarchs attempted a coup d'etat against FDR. It's now a part of "the base's" vocabulary and they don't even know what it is or how the privatization of government functions has been exploiting them and neglecting their basic needs.”

“100% on target. Fanned!”

“The public option is the only way to control costs in the current system (one of Obama's avowed goals) and simultaneously create competition, given that single payer is not being considered. The cooperatives will not do the job not having the resources to compete with the giant insurance comp. in the health industries. So, Obama will have to show his mettle. The health care problem is linked to the economy through its cost impact. This is simple to articulate and to understand.”

“Problem is, they can't empathize. They have no idea what it's like to have to struggle to pay your bills and keep a job you may despise or that is no good for you, just to have health care. I have bad legs and one was going to eventually need surgery (has been done since), so I had no choice but to get a job with the state because of my "pre-existing condition". I could be making double, even triple, in the private sector for what I do with the state, but no private business is going to hire me that has insurance I could even use or - if I could - that I could afford. I will forever have a "pre-existing condition", and that should not bar me from getting the coverage I need when/where I need it. But it does.

These Republicans have no idea what it's like to have to make a choice, to ever be in doubt or concern about your health care or basic needs. In that, they have no way to understand why the American public so desires - and needs - a public option available to any and everyone regardless of anything. They're taken care of, and that's all they care about. They have no empathy or sympathy for the public that struggles every day just to make ends meet and could one day find themselves in dire straits if a medical emergency or serious illness were to befall them.”

“I am a committed Dem and my remark was more directed to the cluelessness manifested in the previous post

I absolutely agree that it has been the Dems that have brought about ground breaking and historical legislation ever since FDR's "New Deal". All the Republicans have produced are crooks like Nixon or buffoons like Reagan and Bush Jr.. But there is a reason why "Prop 8" passed in California as recent as Nov. 2008 even though Obama won CA easily. Why? Because as high as 58-60% voted for it to NOT allow gay marriage in the State. Socially, even "left leaning" and/or progressives remain moderate or center right ...”

“Americans are not left, right, or center. This is all part of the discredited "triangulation" mentality. People vote when they believe they have something to gain or lose. Anyone who thinks that they have something to lose by having more people insured doesnt understand the underlying economics of health care. The government is the only institution that has the ability to deal with the problem, something that the rest of the industrial world figured out a while back. The problem is that Americans have a high consumption expectation, we like to shop, combined with real wage stagnation. Reform benefits every sector of the economy with the exception of the insurers. Industry is opposed, against their own competitive interest, to ANY government involvement in corporate conduct. They fear that if government involvement in health care is successful that they will be next. What reformists need to communicate to the country is that we dont deal with this today we will continue down a road that leads to collapse of the health care system and that the government will end up having to bail out the insurers and providers. If we spend a smaller amount today we will get something for it. If we bail them out in a few years it will cost us more and we get nothing in return. That isnt ideology, its math and history. The clueless here are those who believe we can do nothing and it will all work itself out.”

“Sensible,
People in the income range you describe (especially the elderly).
Ask these moderate and center-right people how they would make it without progressive (and labor) legislation, including, but not limited too:
1) Social Security
2) Medicare
3) Unemployment Insurance.

You love the label "moderate" & "center right" - which are mostly code words for your feelings about abortion, gays and civil rights, whatever they may be - but you couldn't do without progressive legislation.”

“Sensible American..
You might like the label moderate or even conservative but mainstream America DEPENDS on progressive legislation.
Whenever the questions get away from the labels and into legislatio­n...some examples you just MIGHT be familiar with:

1) Social Security - don't think you can get 75% of American's to say - get rid of it.
2) Medicare - even the Repubs are afraid to mess with this overtly
3) Unemployment Insurance

Progressive (and LABOR) ideas and legislation.

Mainstream America likes what AGAIN????”

“Movie people life Chuck Norris, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, Jon Voight???”

“Because you fail to see the game. You think the left vs right is real at the geopolitical level, it's not and you have the proof. Now what are you going to do about it?”

“..Kinda like you calling dissenters today.."cr­azy"?
You santomonious soul..your labeling of the opposition as "crazy" does what to curb the Hate Speech?”

“Well then it should be a simple matter for you to provide a link then, eh?”

“You are full of lies. If you are implying that the caucuses is not worthy of the same distinction in value as larger states...Y­OU are one step behind the Sarah Palins in the world who designates certain places as the "real America." Obama won the election a long time ago...even when Hillary was producing a new arithmetic that used calculations yet invented by mankind. Stop the hype. This man has inherited huge problems and now the lukewarm supporters wants to abandon him in midstream because he failed to be the Magic Negro that could perform miracles. YOU want miracles..­..I suggest you pray to Christ for Obama is just a man...not a Magic Negro...or Voodoo wonder but simply a man that inherited a lot of problems. I have never seen such a thing as people turning on a President without any real provocation. I have never witnessed how many people demand so much from one man in such small interim of time. And I sit here and wonder...w­hy is he obligated to jump through the specialized hoops of the impossible­...but yet NONE of the other elected officials.­..that has secured the office of President.­.was told that "they" owe people so much because they cast their vote for him. If I did not know any better....­I would think that the people actually think they own this "nigg**.”

“Who moved your cheese?”

“Seconded. Its mostly non-actionable rhetoric. I don't listen to any Presidential speech except State of the Union's or rare instances (Obama's egypt speech or any national emergency). Often President's don't do much but set a tone, its their appointments that I pay attention to. Look at Bush administration, when he came to office, his goals were No Child Left Behind, immigrant reform while showcasing his cozy relationship with Vincente Fox, and to restore baseball as the national pastime. Then 9/11 happened and the keys were handed to Cheney and the neo-cons. Then you run into DOJ scandal, FEMA and Katrina, and mishandling of all sorts - all committed by staffers and appointments that I doubt Bush orchestrated or was even aware.”