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Marijuana For Recreational Use Now Legal In Colorado: Hickenlooper Signs Amendment 64 Into State Constitution

Marijuana For Recreational Use Now Legal In Colorado: Hickenlooper Signs Amendment 64 Into State Constitution

Commented Dec 11, 2012 at 01:09:41 in Denver

“Drafted on hemp paper and finalized on sheepskin vellum. Weed and woolies: the foundations of America. Both in abundance in Colorado.”
Hank Williams Jr. Blasts Obama Again, Says President Is Muslim, 'Hates Cowgirls,' 'Loves Gays'

Hank Williams Jr. Blasts Obama Again, Says President Is Muslim, 'Hates Cowgirls,' 'Loves Gays'

Commented Sep 4, 2012 at 14:45:46 in Entertainment

“As a Liberal Hillbilly, I invite you to favor silence over voicing opinions ridden with stereotypes and misinformation. I also invite you to go coat your Canuck fingers in maple syrup so you can't type this drivel anymore.”
huffingtonpost entry

Father Allegedly Kills Man Who Molested His Daughter, Texas Cops Say

Commented Jun 13, 2012 at 01:02:18 in Crime

“My hat's off to the man. Every pedophile deserves the same.

He didn't just save his daughter, but countless other children. Pedophiles don't just stop at one violation.”
huffingtonpost entry

Father Allegedly Kills Man Who Molested His Daughter, Texas Cops Say

Commented Jun 13, 2012 at 01:01:09 in Crime

“You're an astoundingly strong person and I'm glad you're still around. Every survivor is another defeat for the indecent "people" that walk the earth.”
huffingtonpost entry

Kelvin Santos, Brazilian Boy Pronounced Dead, Briefly Resurrected To Ask For Water

Commented Jun 7, 2012 at 20:03:21 in Latino Voices

“I think there are several possibilities, none of which can be conclusively proven to be the case at this point.

1) The poor child was misdiagnosed as dead by a medical professional.

2) He was actually deceased and was somehow rehabilitated, temporarily.

3) A more metaphysical event took place, such as his soul returning to his body for a short time.

3 may sound unlikely to people who equate science with materialism (a common fallacy) but is no more demonstrable or disprovable than 1 or 2 in this case. Additionally, cases do exist in which someone was dead beyond a doubt, and revived inexplicably. Nevertheless, 1 is the most likely explanation.”

NoMoreHeroes on Jun 7, 2012 at 20:53:46

“4) Rigor mortis. Science (still) has explanations for these "miracles".”
Kidwell Barn Farm Animals Attacked, Cut With Unknown Weapon In Virginia

Kidwell Barn Farm Animals Attacked, Cut With Unknown Weapon In Virginia

Commented May 28, 2012 at 19:51:49 in Weird News

“Two things.

1) This is how psychopaths usually start. First animals, then people.

2) Get a Caucasian Ovcharka to guard the animals. Problem solved.”

kahunacook on May 29, 2012 at 16:23:33

“Good call on the CO shepherd dog, although my favorites would be a Pyrenees or Tibetan Mastiff. None of them would likely let anyone harm their "flock."”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 11, 2012 at 23:39:25 in Politics

“Also, I am paying for my schooling and have straight As at America's leading school for my field. No one handed me anything, you absurd and presumptuous blip.

On another note, what tribe is he? I hope to god he isn't a nosebleed native.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 11, 2012 at 23:37:24 in Politics

“Also, I don't know anyone who does any of that. Your bigoted and ridiculous notion of how Native Americans (who are heterogeneous and not a monolithic group of people) behave belies just how twisted your view of mankind must be.

If you think people in Pine Ridge have it easy, and have everything handed to them, I really, really encourage you to try living there. Try visiting, even.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 11, 2012 at 23:32:58 in Politics

“Also, many tribes get no stipend at all. No one that I know receives any, and my friends are from four different reservations (though there are hundreds). Tribes like the Seminole are pretty rare.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 11, 2012 at 23:32:05 in Politics

“Or we could talk about the forced sterlizations performed in these wonderful free health care institutions, or the fact that they have the lowest quality doctors available in America. We could also talk about how scalping a warrior in combat is very different from the actions of people like Colonel Chivington at Sand Creek, whose men scalped the genitalia of their female victims and wore these horrific trophies into Denver. They received military honors for their deeds.

Again, there is no equivalence whatsoever. Unless Native Americans went to Europe, killed off 98% of the population, and made sure to scalp their privates along the way. If you don't believe that these things happened, I invite you to read EVERY account of Sand Creek. It's just one example of many.

Also, feel free to look up statistics on IHS care, the quality of the physicians, and their long history of sterilizing Native women well into the late 1970s against their will. 30-40% of all Native women who entered IHS were sterilized in that decade alone. One of the links I posted above details it in full.

Would you send your family members there?”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 11, 2012 at 12:47:44 in Politics

“Absolutely. These trends, events, and crimes are well-documented and discussed in a number of places. Here are a few for you to start:

http://www.now.org/nnt/spring-2001/nativeamerican.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/opinion/kristof-povertys-poster-child.html

http://cbhd.org/content/forced-sterilization-native-americans-late-twentieth-century-physician-cooperation-national-

http://anj.sagepub.com/content/43/2/199.abstract

This is about Canada, but the U.S. had similar policies with similar results: http://tps.sagepub.com/content/48/4/367.abstract

and a book I highly recommend:

Stannard, D. E. (1993). American Holocaust: The Conquest of the New World (Reprint.). Oxford University Press, USA.

If you'd like more, let me know.”

muhamed on May 16, 2012 at 14:27:02

“no where in any of your sources did I find the following claim made by you, and actually this is what i was questioning when i asked for sources...you said: "50% of Native women are raped, 4 times higher than the national average, and 95% of those are by white men." where is this 95% are by white men claim? ”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 11, 2012 at 01:23:20 in Politics

“I don't just call them historical texts, I call them the biographies of my in-laws. The rapes the Cheyenne in their family experienced were not at Lakota hands, but white. Conversely, their happy marriages were with Lakota. There's no historical text on earth that will assert that Cheyenne didn't befriend the Lakota long after strategic exigencies had faded. No such trend occurred with the U.S. government, whose stated policy again and again was extermination of a race, rather than counting coup and maintaining enough hunting territory to support family.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 10, 2012 at 21:09:48 in Politics

“At the risk of sounding conceited, I believe I laid out quite conclusively all the ways in which the results are NOT at all similar. Lakota and Cheyenne war ultimate conflict resolution? Intermarriage and SHARED land ownership--Cheyenne were free to travel to and hunt within "Lakota-owned" territory by every account, following the initial conflict. My fiancee is part Cheyenne--a large part, and not by rapine but by happy intermarriage. Her Cheyenne ancestors migrated with the Lakota and ended up near Manderson on Pine Ridge. Some ended up in Rosebud as well.

The end result of America's land grabs? Reservations, cultural decimation, intergenerational and epigenetic PTSD, ongoing racism, staggering poverty, and the extinction of a variety of taxa including the largest group of ungulates on the planet.

There is simply no moral equivalence no matter how you play it.”

Joseph Blosch on May 11, 2012 at 00:18:52

“I susbmit that you and I will forever disagree on terms regarding the behavior of the early Lakota towards the Cheyenne - what you call intermarriage and shared land ownership, I call historical texts indicating rape, murder, and slavery.   ”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 10, 2012 at 18:37:12 in Politics

“If you do find time to read any of those, some of which may be familiar to you already, you'll see I'm not citing whitewashed references whatsoever. I also explicitly acknowledged the tribal warfare several comments ago without issue.

Incidentally that book is on my reading list. I've read excerpts before but have not had time for the full account. I'll make it a priority.

Once more, I have yet to find a single source that puts Lakota warfare, in which counting coup by touching an enemy with a stick was more esteemed that shooting him, on par with Euroamerican martial culture that mandated the explicit obliteration of one's foes. Nor have I encountered any Cheyenne oral history that states that the Lakota almost obliterated them--please do point me in the direction of such an oral history, as I'd prefer having that side of the story as well if it is to be found. Also, last time I checked, Lakota warfare didn't have the same results as Euroamerican discourses on the Indian Wars, which precipitated the Eugenics movement (primarily through phrenological attempts to justify Manifest Destiny). The idea of Reservations also contributed to Hitler's creation of concentration camps, by his own account (Adolf Hitler, by J Toland, p. 702). Lakota tribal warfare doesn't even come close to that kind of legacy.”

Joseph Blosch on May 10, 2012 at 18:58:06

“There is a saying - you cannot argue with results. Lakota warfare, however you rate it, resulted in us talking about the Lakota "owning" the land formerly owned by another tribe. The act of theft is what counts at this point. There is no difference between the Lakota stealing the land the Cheyenne from the US government stealing the land from the Lakota on an empirical level.  I can see arguing for settlements involving a planned growth for the economy of the rez using the monies from the ruling. Heck, I could see the government helping the tribe improve general living conditions among the tribe as national policy with nothing to do with the settlement. I support those things. Both the Lakota and US government are guilty of land theft in my eyes - historically speaking. Why should one side suffer punitive damages while the other one remains above the sins of the past? Altering the ownership of the national monument based on the whackjobs in the UN? Not a chance, I will never agree to the idea. We would have to revert most of Europe over to Roman rule if we did.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 10, 2012 at 18:04:47 in Politics

“Also, Jewish people bring up the Holocaust regularly and invoke it as a reason for many of the actions they have taken either as individuals or by the agency of the state of Israel. It doesn't mean they have a victim mentality. It means they never want to forget, and they want to make sure it doesn't happen again. And it means that acknowledging a wrong done, and a need for recompense and healing, is not a victim mentality but a moral and human right.

To generalize that Native Americans are stuck in a sense of victimhood is highly insulting, a gross generalization, and smacks of ignorance no matter how you look at it. Especially considering there are hundreds of sovereign nations, each with its own history of reactions to a number of challenges.

Again, I invite you to visit Pine Ridge. You'll find, by and large, some of the strongest and most generous people anywhere.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 10, 2012 at 17:53:00 in Politics

“I was specifically dealing with your comment on the "victim mentality," which considering your now open background (for which I am deeply sorry those things occurred to you) I find even more puzzling. Surely no one is supposed to celebrate the evils that befall them, and speaking of them openly is not wallowing but rather pointing out the wrongs that need addressing. Your post clearly came across as "get over it" and I am glad that you're now diluting that rather odious message with human understanding and empathy that was NOT clear in your original post.

And still, you do not know the Lakota if you think that in comparison to their personal stories, the Black Hills mean nothing to them. Quite the opposite. They see their own personal tragedies, by and large, reflected in the violations and depredations inflicted on a land that every single tribe that has ever seen it believes is sacred. Perhaps your friendship with the Holocaust survivor led you to investigate why Israel became such a priority for many Survivors. A land of their own, sacred and free from the depredations of their oppressors. Surely the parallel is clear?

Thank you for having the courage to share your background. I hope that you received the necessary support in those times of hardship and that people were open to helping you rather than ostracizing you for your suffering or trying to silence you for speaking out.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 10, 2012 at 11:10:56 in Politics

“Levene, M. (2005). Genocide in the Age of the Nation State: The rise of the West and the coming of genocide. I.B.Tauris.

Moore, J. H. (1974). Cheyenne Political History, 1820-1894. Ethnohistory, 21(4), 329–359. doi:10.2307/481148

Sundstrom, L. (1996). Mirror of Heaven: Cross-Cultural Transference of the Sacred Geography of the Black Hills. World Archaeology, 28(2), 177–189.

Finally, the Lakota were pushed onto the Great Plains as a direct result
of Euroamerican intervention in tribal warfare--the Ojibwe/Chippewa
were given guns by Euroamerican colonial governments and used them to
evict the Sioux from their lands in the Great Lakes.”

Joseph Blosch on May 10, 2012 at 17:14:29

“causes -> caused

I know you have pride in your nation. And, I support that pride. As a child, my father was "one of those people with dirty skin" in an area where Native Americans and Whites spent most of their days picking fights with each other. So, I understand the need to champion Native Americans.

However, you are doing the Lakota a disservice by trying to cover up their real history when even a little bit of research into the actual timeline shows the Lakota uniting with other tribes only after the US military goes nutso on the tribes in the last half of the 1800s.

The late 1700s and early 1800s were ripe with inter-tribal violence to be blunt. Hiding that violence for any reason, you are not helping the Natives. :/ It is history - not a point to fuge while trying to win brownie points on the blogs.

Also, it is wrong to blur the alliance between the Cheyenne and the Lakota of the late 1800s into the early 1800s while trying to make a point in regards to the nature of the Lakota. At best, you are creating a false context for discussion.”

Joseph Blosch on May 10, 2012 at 17:02:12

“You can go as far back as the 1820s where the Arikara barely escaped the Lakota mercs operating as thugs for the American Fur Company if you need examples of their behavior. - See The Dakota Peoples: A History of the Dakota, Lakota and Nakota Through 1863 by Palmer for a full history on the time line.

Sure, you could blur the timeline and fudge the actual alliance in order to cover up the dark period of the Lakota in order to claim that they were "peaceful" towards their brethen, but the simple fact is that the histories we have to do not support your claim of the peaceful "eviction" of the Cheyenne by the Lakota. Everything most historians have indicates that the Lakota, at best, were mercs most of the 1800s up until the European migration into the area causes racial tension in the last half of the 1800s.”

Joseph Blosch on May 10, 2012 at 17:01:56

“Indeed, I am not a huge fan of homework essay as historical proofs. However, the 18th century is where the Cheyenne were largely wiped out by the Lakota according to the large portion of history books. I have several of the books you list on my bookshelf. My grandmother was a teacher on several of the rez schools, and she left me around thirty other history books that cover the translated oral history of most of the tribes from the area if you want to dig up the oral histories. :)

Mind you , I am sure that some current Lakota books, and uni homework assignments, talk about how kind and gentle the migration is at this point. All culture like to fluff the history when it comes to the extinction of another group of people at their hands.

Anywho... To debunk your claim, it was in 1876, the battle of Powder River, where the Lakota and Cheyenne were united against the US troops by the way. It is in at least two of the books that you reference. You can locate it in Lakota and Cheyenne: Indian Views of the Great Sioux War, 1876-1877 by Greene if you need a third point of reference. Until then, the Lakota were hostiles to pretty much everyone in the area.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 10, 2012 at 10:45:00 in Politics

“You clearly didn't read the post whatsoever. This isn't about history. Native Americans are being screwed over today, right now, this minute, in ways that would probably result in the death or insanity of most people, yourself included. I encourage you to visit any Reservation in the Great Plains or Intermountain West to see for yourself.

There are people out there who have it harder than you, and they need help. Get over yourself.”

responsible4self23 on May 11, 2012 at 21:07:20

“I wonder where your sources are as far as the stipends each person of the tribes receive. Where are your sources on how they receive completely 100% free medical, dental, and eye care? Where are your sources on the fact that NA do not need hunting or fishing licenses or the fact they can hunt and fish anytime of the year and not have to abide by seasons. I wonder where the sources are that state they have free housing? I wonder where your sources are that they do not need to pay taxes? I wonder where your sources are that they can have a casino anywhere even though others can't, just because they are NA? Don't forget the free legal help they receive. Let's talk about innocent children and women that were raped and killed by NA. Let's talk about how they would slice the top of people's heads off, leaving their brains exposed, killing them or leaving them to die. Let's talk about how they lost the final war. Gee, seems to me you think you know a whole lot of the past, but just can't get the present correct.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 10, 2012 at 10:42:47 in Politics

“Three points:

It was not won in a war of conquest, it was sneakily stolen after two different treaties made by the U.S. Government affirmed its sole proprietorship as belonging to the Lakota. American honor and law mandate the honoring of that treaty. Unless we hope to prove that American honor is conditional upon how convenient the actual implementation of our government's word is.

Two, you provide no evidence for your assertion of Lakota genocidal tendencies while throwing up ridiculous assertions again that tribal war is on par with American genocide of indigenous peoples. This topic is hardly up for debate or subject to opinion--empirical studies of the history of the Black Hills abound, and you have not cited a single reference indicating Lakota ethnic cleansing of the Cheyenne while I can provide vast quantities of evidence regarding their shared culture, history, and amity.

Consult the following:

Bartrop, P. R. (2007). Episodes from the Genocide of the Native Americans: A Review Essay. Genocide Studies and Prevention, 2(2), 183–190. doi:10.3138/gsp.2.2.183

Forbes-Boyte, K. (1996). Respecting Sacred Perceptions: The Lakotas, Bear Butte, and Land-Management Strategies. The Public Historian, 18(4), 99–117.

Forbes-Boyte, K. L. (1997). Indigenous people, land and space: The effects of law on sacred places, the Bear Butte example. University of Nebraska - Lincoln. Retrieved from http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/dissertations/AAI9730267/

Lazarus, E. (1999). Black Hills White Justice: The Sioux Nation Versus the United States, 1775 to the Present. U of Nebraska Press.

Levene, M. (2005). Genocide in the Age of the Nation State: The rise”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 9, 2012 at 23:51:08 in Politics

“Glad your inhumanity is plain to see for all.

Also, did the Lakota slaughter the Cheyenne wholesale, rape nearly every one of them they captured, obliterate their language and culture, and intentionally spread diseases to them? No. They intermarried after a short period of largely symbolic warfare to such an extent that many Cheyenne are part Lakota and many Lakota are part Cheyenne. They fought together with the Arapahoe against Custer and died together in places like Sand Creek.

Comparing tribal warfare to a concerted campaign of genocide against millions of people is asinine, morally dishonest, and reprehensible. And it says a lot about you.

No one needs to feel guilty due to the accident of their heritage any more than they should be utterly screwed over as a result of their heritage, not that the mild inconvenience of guilt (which you're clearly in no danger of experiencing) at all compares to enduring a genocide.

I pray someday you gain a sense of humanity and decency.”

Joseph Blosch on May 10, 2012 at 01:45:23

“World limits on post aside, I have one more question for you, anyone really, when you use the "amount" of rape and murder to quantify genocide.  How many victims of the past actions by the Lakota tribe does it take to register as a genocide? You use the word genocide, I await details on the numbers that justify the murders, rapes, and slavery that go with tribal displacement from tribal wars between Native Americans.  Hopefully, it is not a double standard where non-white ethnic groups accuse white people of genocide while excusing the inter-tribal acts of murder, rape, and mayhem.   ”

IslamicPacifist on May 10, 2012 at 01:31:17

“Hey, that land belonged to dinosaurs before it belonged to the "indians"
Does that mean that we should give it away to the birds?”

Joseph Blosch on May 10, 2012 at 01:24:53

“My humanity is well developed, actually. I simply pose the question of ethics in this case..

The Cheyenne were slaughtered by the Lakota in large numbers. Slaves were taken, too. Yet, you reduce their suffering to a point of debate on the internet in order to insult somebody else that simply points out the fact that the Lakota of the era are guilty of taking the land - the same "crime" which you assign to the American government. I will not call you inhumane, but I do question your ethics if you ignore the suffering of an entire culture simply to make a point on the internet.

There are two primary arguments here. The first one, people claim it is fair to give thieves ownership of stolen property. Regardless of which side you argue, both the American Government and Lakota are guilty of theft. The second argument involves an assignment of "ownership" based on duration of possestion. Again, both the Lakota and American Government owned it for a certain duration.

In terms of simple ownership, the government has it. Why should it sign over ownership of a national monument in order to satisfy a power hungry UN when the Lakota are not an innocent party. Even if you ignore the past Lakota crimes against their fellow tribes, the tribes that suffered at the hands of the Lakota deserve ownership of it. It is simply wrong to hand over the land to a tribe that stole it in the first place.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 9, 2012 at 18:05:37 in Politics

“It applies to the asinine comment that Native Americans aren't suffering anymore.”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 9, 2012 at 17:48:48 in Politics

“If you knew anything of the actual sentiments of the people who have been raped, lived with alcoholic family members, or survived boarding schools and sterilization on the Reservations, you'd know this is anything but a non-issue to them. And I do wish ill on all who tell people who endured these things to "get over it," or say they have a victim mentality. Then, when ill befalls them, I hope the same is done to them.

I can say with absolute certainty that if any of this did befall you, I would never tell you to "get over it" or accuse you of enjoying being a victim. The way you write about this is very indicative that whatever you have endured in life, it hasn't been enough for you to even approximate fundamental empathy with people that have endured more horror than you. They would not tell you to get over it on the Rez, they would give you a hug and pray for healing with you. They also wouldn't patronize you with asinine advice to move past unspeakable horrors. There are things in life that people do NOT EVER get over. Ask a Holocaust survivor. Ask a former slave. Ask a survivor of a brutal war. And if you can't understand any of that, at least be silent. Your advice is not needed by these strong people, nor is it wanted.”

Willow Silverhawk on May 10, 2012 at 13:40:14

“Excuse me -- I HAVE been raped, I HAVE lived with an abusive alcoholic father who committed suicide, and I WORK with a holocaust survivor who also abhors victim mentality. Show me where I even once said "Get over it". I said don't stay stuck in the victimization. I did not deign to give advice to anyone. I simply stated my opinion that I find the mindset annoying. So tell me again how taking back Mount Rushmore will stop anyone from experiencing those horrors? Because I don't see where you addressed that in your response . . .”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 9, 2012 at 15:59:15 in Politics

“Please share that as a totally separate comment so more people see it. F&F”

write the world on May 10, 2012 at 00:40:50

“Thank you.
I did just that ;-)”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 9, 2012 at 15:58:23 in Politics

“Actually, they certainly are. You have clearly done no research whatsoever.

I'll repost this for your benefit. Feel free to double-check ALL the facts.

50% of Native women are raped, 4 times higher than the national average, and 95% of those are by white men.

Reservations are the poorest places in America, period. Many people survive on less that $2000 a year.

The average life expectancy on many reservations is on par with AFGHANISTAN and HAITI. The infant mortality is as well.

"We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children."
~General William Tecumseh Sherman, decorated American military "hero" with statues in NYC and DC”

blackraisin on May 9, 2012 at 17:43:34

“How does that apply to Mount Rushmore? Which of those people is poor or raped because of Mount Rushmore?”
Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Mt. Rushmore Site Should Be Returned To Indigenous Native American Tribes, U.N. Official Says

Commented May 9, 2012 at 15:50:45 in Politics

“Get over it? You lost fair and square?

50% of Native women are raped, 4 times higher than the national average, and 95% of those are by white men.

Get over it?

Reservations are the poorest places in America, period. Many people survive on less that $2000 a year.

Get over it?

Twenty million Native Americans died due to a combination of unintentional illness and VERY intentional ethnic cleansing.

Get over it?

The average life expectancy on many reservations is on par with AFGHANISTAN and HAITI. The infant mortality is as well.

Get over it?

"We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children."
~General William Tecumseh Sherman, decorated American military "hero" with statues in NYC and DC

Get over it?

Every conceivable treaty broken by the U.S. government intentionally, a 35000 year way of life destroyed, and the cultures of hundreds of sovereign nations diluted or annihilated.

Get over it?

Get over yourself, and your arrogance. The Indian Wars never ended, and the descendents of these proud peoples continue to be physically, emotionally, financially, and culturally damaged by American colonists and a hostile federal government. And chances are they have "gotten over" more horrors in their foreshortened lives than you ever will in 80 years.”

responsible4self23 on May 11, 2012 at 20:51:43

“You get over it. Maybe YOU should return your stipends you get. Maybe you should now have to buy hunting and fishing licenses and only be able to hunt and fish during seasons, unlike now. Maybe YOU should have to work for your own insurance instead of having FREE insurance paid by taxpayers. Maybe YOU should do more than sit on your butt in the free housing that is paid for by the taxpayers and then you break out the windows, throw junk all over the place and then say it's not your fault, it's the white mans! Maybe you should be responsible when you buy something on credit instead of saying "I don't understand the white man's contract" and get away with it! Maybe you should JUST ONCE have to pay taxes instead of taking and taking, constantly complaining how bad you have it because of what happened over a hundred years ago! Besides, you lost the war. Your people killed plenty of white people, maybe we should be the ones suing you for murder as well. Before you say anything, I'm married to a Native American who doesn't sit on his butt, has an education he paid for with his own money and student loans he repaid, and doesn't take a dime from this government. You people who think you deserve everything handed to you make me sick! Proud people? In your eyes only.”

muhamed on May 11, 2012 at 09:19:12

“do you have any sources for your statements?”

IslamicPacifist on May 10, 2012 at 01:27:44

“Yup.
GET OVER IT.
YOU were not effected by what the white man's ancestors did. My ancestors were forced to come here in chains, and FORCED to build this nation, but you don't see me whining about it. It's no longer relevant and the people of today had NOTHING to do with it.

YOU are responsible for the way that you live your life. You can't change the past, but you CAN change the future.

And If you think the Indian wars are still ongoing, then effing DO SOMETHING about it. Beat your drums and swing your tomahawks and see what happens.

Or....
You can GET OVER IT.”

Joseph Blosch on May 9, 2012 at 23:15:08

“Yup, get over it... White Guilt is what some people are using to guilt trip white people into doing stupid things. The UN suggestion is one of those stupid things. It is silly for the United States government to give land back to people that stole the land from another tribe. So yeah, you can get over it.”

Brian Henderson1492 on May 9, 2012 at 20:53:14

“I hope to get my law license when I transfer to my next school so I can do my part to help the indigenous people get the justice that is long over due and I tell you this, I will drag the evil people thru the mud and over the coals. There will be justice and if those people don't like it. TOO BAD!!! If you want to ignore the truth...fine. But I won't and I will remind the evil doers of every evil deed with every lawsuit filed.”
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