“Perfect, what brand of Christianity would you like the country to practice? Should we pass a law forbidding any other? Shall we call it what it is? Sharia Law? Every time I talk to a person that thinks they know history, it is like going down the rabbit hole. Why is God and Jesus not in the Constitution? Did they forget?”
just sayin on May 11, 2014 at 08:07:04
“I'm not suggesting that the country practice any particular religion - that would be a state religion, which is exactly what the Founders (and most reasonable people) oppose. I'm only saying that it isn't necessary (or wise, but that's another issue) to have a government that dares not allow itself to be touched by any vestige of religion.
I think that this particular Supreme Court ruling is a good example of the balance between state and church. Any faith is allowed to present the prayer (and I'm assuming that would include some sort of statement of belief by atheists). This actually promotes diversity. No one is forced to participate and the city government is not funding or endorsing any of the speakers. It's very democratic.”
“The separation of Church and State was for the preservation of both. When I see these religious zealots, not knowing history, and why we had the separation in the first place. There are factions in the Christian community, that don't believe the validity of the other sects. Just Wait, the Right Wing is always proved wrong, and things always backfire on them in the end. There are reasons that these Amendments were crafted, but if you don't know history, you are destined to repeat it.”
jmb4 on May 10, 2014 at 12:08:38
“Correct. Even the posses out in Bundy-land are fighting each other. How can they allow public prayer when the participants are carrying guns?”
just sayin on May 10, 2014 at 09:05:03
“History also shows that there was never any intention to rid the government of all traces of religions. The Founders feared the establishment of a state church, not unlike the Church of England.
For example, Congress voted to hire a chaplain just days after passing the Bill of Rights. And it has always opened with a prayer. Furthermore, both Adams and Jefferson used to attend church services that were held in the Capitol on Sundays.
Re-read the Declaration of Independence sometime. Religion has been there from the beginning.”
“What is sad is Right Wingers that don't understand what "Free Speech" means. Free Speech works both ways. Companies can FREELY work with whoever they want to work with.”
Bradley Wise on May 8, 2014 at 21:58:48
“I didn't say that their free speech has been taken away did I? What is happening is, because of their particular free speech and personal views, their home flipping show is being cancelled. Surely HGTV has the right to fire them. Im not saying anything illegal has happened. I'm only making the observation that using one's unrelated personal beliefs as ground to disqualify someone for employment is a lot scarier than these two dudes believing whatever hateful things they believe. There's ZERO chance that if two "marriage equality" supporters were fired for their beliefs after their views were discovered that any of these salivating liberals we see here would be offering the same defenses that they're currently offering for HGTV.”
“Every month, positive job growth, every month the trolls tell us why this is bad. At some point a trend has to be a trend. But if you don't believe in numbers or science it must be very hard for you to wrap your brain around. Last months of the previous administration -850,000 jobs a month. But that was better. Makes your brain hurt.”
“Yes McCain, the man that said "The fundamentals of the economy are strong," the day before the whole economy crashed. Or how about pushing the Iraq war down everyone's throats. How about retirement grandmpa?”
“NO your kidding right? Propaganda is illegal in the United States, there should be standards and practices if you are going to brand yourself NEWS! The founding fathers wanted an informed electorate. If you are being fed BS, you aren't informed.”
LiberalHippyz on Feb 21, 2014 at 09:30:05
“If you really think our government doesn't practice propaganda, I have a bridge to sell you. Are you REALLY that gullible?”
“This is classic Rethuglicanism. When the CBO Report came out that Obamacare would save the country 1 trillion dollars over 10 years, it was cooked books, all of a sudden when the CBO comes back that there will be job loss due mostly to people going out to more entrepreneurial, and people retiring, it is gospel. hypocrisy table for........”
“Does anyone else know what bible these people are reading? Sure isn't the one I studied for years as a young adult. I mean who did Jesus hate? I know he hated the poor, hated healing people with healthcare, loved rich people. We live in Alice in Wonderland world now.”
mrovin1 on Jan 9, 2014 at 13:01:57
“Jesus threatened an entire town with worse punishment than experienced by Sodam and G for not accepting his disciples.”
“That is awesome. So everyone else should be forced to believe the way you do, but no one should be able to force you to believe the way we do. That makes complete sense. Question, have you taken American History? Have you actually read the Constitution? Treaty of Tripoli? Do you realize most of the founders were Diests?
I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of...Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."
The country's second president, was drawn to the study of law but faced pressure from his father to become a clergyman. He wrote that he found among the lawyers 'noble and gallant achievements" but among the clergy, the "pretended sanctity of some absolute dunces". Late in life he wrote: "Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!"
The fourth president and father of the Constitution, was not religious in any conventional sense. "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."”
“I don't think anyone is that disturbed, but I think if someone of another faith would like to put something up next to it, they should be able too. The separation of church and state is too preserve both, church and state.”
NamVet 822 on Dec 13, 2013 at 17:04:03
“Well here is what I know. Viewing a symbol does not upset normal, rational people. It's a symbol! It does not preach or hand out literature. As far as the other part of your comment, I have no problem with that.”