“Uh, Dan. Don't ever join a debate team. You won't do well by being 'disingenuous'. My statement was "Except for those on the fringes, I have never heard anyone talk about taking away anyone's right to possess firearms.' By taking part of my sentence out of context, you change the meaning of what I was saying. And the second part of your response shows that you're making my point for me - so obviously we're agreeing. But substantially? Well, that's rather subjective and hardly quantifiable. With the widespread use of guns in this country, both legal and illegal, it seems apparent that those laws haven't done a lot to diminish gun rights. We're the most well armed civilian population in the world.”
“Well, you ask two questions here so I'm not sure which point you're trying to make. In one sentence, you talk about taking away rights and in the last sentence you talk about diminishing rights. Except for those on the fringes, I have never heard anyone talk about taking away anyone's right to possess firearms. But if you're talking about diminishing a person's rights under the 2nd amendment, you should understand that no rights guaranteed under the constitution are absolute. Even though you have right to free expression under the 1st amendment, you still can't yell fire in a theater or libel someone (without consequences). Under the second amendment you have a right to bear arms but it's limited - you have to be of age, you should be sort of sane, you can't own a nuclear bomb. You get the drift. So if you say there are those who want to diminish the 2nd amendment, you'd have to be more specific and tell us how or where. More stringent background checks? That doesn't seem unreasonable. Surely you don't want known psychotics walking around with weapons - at least not legally. So what exactly are people trying to diminish and what discussion would those people who value their gun rights be open to?”
Dan Stewart on Dec 9, 2013 at 09:35:01
“" I have never heard anyone talk about taking away anyone's right to possess firearms." I have. You're either being disingenuous or are uninformed on the subject. ____________ "...you should understand that no rights guaranteed under the constitution are absolute." Yeah, thanks for that -- as if it's supposed to be news to me. Of course, "no rights guaranteed under the constitution are absolute," but you should understand thatthat there already are enumerable federal, state, municipal, regulatory and administrative laws on the books to prove your point that the Second Amendment is not absolute. It also proves that we have we have substantially diminished gun rights. In my opinion, we don't need any more.
“My experience has been that if you have to say you're doing quite well, you aren't. That's an insecurity you'll have to deal with. But as you seem to spend a great deal of time posting snappy repartee (yes, I'm being sarcastic) on the internet all day, you can't be doing that well. Seems to me you're just sitting around wasting your boss's money all day. Me? I retired at 58 so if I choose the screw around with you kids all day, I'm not wasting anyone's time but my own. Now go be productive and earn your paltry wages. Maybe you can become something someday. And that concludes our lackluster association. I have better things to do. Right now, I'm going out in the backyard and fish for an hour before it gets dark. Life is good.”
ffjsb on Dec 6, 2013 at 14:21:19
“I don't fish because I can go to the store and just buy it. I've got other things that I like to do more. And oh yes, I am doing well. I even make more than the wife who has a masters degree. I really don't care what you THINK you know about me, because you really don't have a clue. But that's typical for a liberal.
But back to Obamacare.
Thank God I'm exempt from Obamacare. And if I weren't, I'd pay out of pocket. As for the fine? They can only collect that if I get a refund. Yep, they screwed that part up too. They CAN'T garnish your wages or put a lien on you. And the backside of the website STILL isn't working, so the suckers that THINK they've signed up for healthcare insurance still don't have it. All your snark can't change those facts.”
“Excuse me? What name calling are you referring to? I think you have me mixed up with another poster. The only word that I can see that you might have taken offense to is the word 'tool', which is merely someone who is paid by a company or organization of companies to lobby on their behalf. I'm not sure what else you might be referring to. Sorry. Good luck to your grandsons. Hope you don't have to exchange heated words over a misunderstanding.”
“Ok, so you drive a taxi. No wonder you know so damn much. Quit listening to Rush, cabbie. Everything you're saying is the normal boring mantra. Get an original thought and look around you. Class warfare? I never used that term but your buddy does almost everyday.”
ffjsb on Dec 5, 2013 at 11:16:10
“Uh, NOT a taxi, although it will be if Obamacare continues. And compared to you ignorant socialist, yes I do know much.”
“Prices always rise. If you want to stop prices from rising, the gov't should put in price controls so landlords can't raise a company's rent, and power companies can't charge more for electricity, and vendors can't charge more for materials, and oil companies can't charge more for fuel. But you seem to feel the only way we can save the economy is on the backs of the lowest paid workers. When the minimum raises occur, there is a certain amount of wage compression (the technical term) that takes place but it all adjusts over a period of time. Maybe we should take a good look at executive compensation - pay, benefits, platinum parachutes, pensions - which has risen exponentially since 1990 to see if maybe companies couldn't save a little money there. I know your answer is for everyone to go to college or get skill training so everyone in the country could command a higher salary - like the successful people! But that's a pipe dream. Even if everyone were trained or educated to be the CEO, there's still only one per company. I guess the rest would go on welfare.”
“I suggest you turn down your next raise to help your company through this difficult time. I'm guessing they would do the same thing they've always done in the past when the minimum wage was raised. Somehow this country survived. Quit listening to the doom and gloom crowd.”
conservativestevet on Dec 4, 2013 at 23:04:14
“yes, the country has been strong enough to survive "feel good" nonsense like this. however, all it does is devalue the currency because minimum wage jobs (entry level, low skill, learn in less than a day) are not worth more relative to the economy. prices will rise and skilled workers either then need raises or their value is squeezed. anyone who wants to make more money needs to become more valuable to employers with new skills.”
“Ohhhhh, nooooooo! Now the whole American economy will collapse and we'll become another third world country - just like the last time they raised minimum wage. To all you tools out there who are shilling for the poor big businesses, this expense is no different than an increase in materials, transportation, power and water, inventory or any other expense a company must bear. It's just factored in and passed along to the consumer. As for small businesses, they go out of business everyday and the reason usually is because of underfunding. They didn't have enough capital to make it through, good times or bad. If you feel so bad for those poor big businesses, try going after the ridiculous manager's and CEO"s salaries, and the golden parachutes even if they take a company down the drain. Don't pick on the little guy who is struggling already. $11.50 is not exactly like winning the lottery.”
panda2u on Dec 4, 2013 at 19:08:30
“As you should well know ; The basic starter job is not intended to be your lifetime career either . $11.50 isn't going to break anybody , of course the cost will show up at the register . No big deal there either . Nobody will be going to China or elsewhere for lunch just to avoid the costlier burger .
Now , to your name calling ; your poor manners do not reflect well on the household where you were raised . It makes you sound cheap and caloused and may make your family look bad too . Does that not bother you ? It certainly should . Hopefully you will mature some day and quit the schoolyard style shots .
If I hear of my grandsons talking like that heated words will be exchanged .
Notice that I didn't return your cheap name calling ?”
casfl on Dec 4, 2013 at 18:22:38
“What about the workers currently earning 11.50,likely for a job requiring more skill.Do they get a 3.00 raise as well.If not, in effect they receive a pay cut. Where is the line drawn?”
conservativestevet on Dec 4, 2013 at 18:20:16
“you obviously have not noticed the severe price inflation in food and other materials due to interference by government - regulations driving up costs - and the Fed pumping money into the system. why not make the minimum wage $40 per hour and mandate that no-one can charge for bread? because no-one would be hired and there would be no bread.”
“I wasn't talking about what followed the Revolution. I was talking about what caused the Revolution. Two class society - the poor and the wealthy. If the wealthy have everything, the poor will do whatever it takes to feed their families - as in Venezuela for instance. You want socialism, keep sucking the wealth from the middle class. But in fact, I said nothing about being owed financial security, only an avenue to be able to get healthcare, no matter what your financial status might be. Or do you believe that healthcare should only be for those who can afford it? That would seem to be a real screwed up sense of what's good for society - sick and dying Americans with no access to healthcare. And by the way, companies, business, and the country prosper when people are healthy and able to produce. Why are you against that?”
ffjsb on Dec 4, 2013 at 22:49:03
“Socialism has never worked. And "wealth being sucked from the middle class"?? You can thank the government for that. Your silly class warfare logic is BS.
As for healthcare, every ER in the country is obligated to evaluate and provide emergency treatment for anyone that comes in. I should know, I'm the one that hauls them there for whatever minor ailment that they are suffering from.
And thanks to Obamacare, many companies that DID provide healthcare are having to drop it.”
“One, you're already paying for others in the form of higher medical costs and premiums, and you have for years. Two, you are only one major health catastrophe away from meeting reality face to face. I hope it doesn't happen to you but losing your home and everything you've ever worked for because one of your kids is seriously ill is a reality that happens everyday - in the wealthiest country in the world. In the meantime, insurance companies and executives are recording record high profits and salaries. Something is very wrong and sometimes the free market is not always the answer. Sometimes greed has to be checked for the good of society as a whole. See the French Revolution as an example.”
ffjsb on Dec 4, 2013 at 14:49:31
“And with Obamacare, you and I will be paying EVEN MORE.
I have unlimited major medical, and other insurance and investments, but the fact is, NO ONE is owed financial security. There are NO guarantee's in this life.
BTW, The French Revolution was also followed by the REIGN OF TERROR, with over 15,000 executions. You've got a real screwed up sense of what's good for society.”
“Well, I heard the 'repeal' part but never heard much about the 'replace' part. Big Pharm and the insurance companies don't want any affordable health care plans, period. And the Republicans are simply doing their bidding.”
“Oh, brother! Have another one and sleep it off. I don't think I mentioned what branch of the service I was in. But I'm pretty sure they're all American forces so it was one of them. Sorry you have such a hatred for the Army personnel.”
neocontb on Dec 2, 2013 at 20:46:34
“Just non hackers, that's all. We out shot them all the time.”
“You forget ... the Republicans ran Congress for 12 years and the White House for 8 years. Where was their plan? Or, gasp, did they just not give a damn about 49 million uninsured Americans?”
BBiggert on Dec 3, 2013 at 01:21:32
“You forget...You can go back to the beginning of this country if that's where you're trying to go with that logic ! ...What 's being done now is the left is trying to turn health care into an entitlement program when what we have/had in place was a saftey net for those less advantaged...Did it need fixing ? You bet your a.. lt did ! Did it need this piece of crap law for a way to do that ? Hell no. Even past prez Clinton along with Hillary thought about it and didn't come up with something doable .His own party rejected her plan..The problems could have been fixed by requiring nsurance companies to do the right things and also removing state laws that prevented selling across state boundries. Instead we have screwed up insurance for 85 % of the people in order to help 15 %. ...And Obama lied, and lied !!!!!”
“Uh, actually it was an M-14, junior. And I don't think I mentioned taking my rifle home. We were under a SOFA agreement which you'll just have to Google to find out what that was.”
neocontb on Dec 2, 2013 at 20:30:44
“Oh boy....you're a bloddy genius yet make no sense. Don't have to google it, I know what it is. I'd hate to have to ask you to explain it, it could take a long, long time.
Once again, no wonder why you were in the army. Navy, or Airforce wouldn't take you, and I know the Marines wouldn't want you.”
“NOTHING!!! Go back to the free market. If they want to work on some way of assisting those that can't get coverage WITHOUT forcing others to pay for it that would be something else. Until then, Obamacare CANNOT and WILL NOT WORK.”