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NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 30, 2014 at 22:44:14 in Politics

“Doesn't matter as both a bow and a firearm are indeed arms. Pretty sure there is no mention in the constitution, nor any legal precedent, for your right to board any form of transportation you choose...though again you do have the right to cross state lines so long as it is not with the intent(or in the process) of committing a crime.

If you want to address my original point, that this was a failure of the mental health system, feel free...otherwise I have reached my boredom threshold.”

fredvh on May 31, 2014 at 08:17:39

“and there is not court case limiting the form of transportation is there?

the constitution gives our rights....not limits them.

yes. i already did. it was a failure of mental health system as well as weak gun laws.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 30, 2014 at 14:46:22 in Politics

“Feel free to walk.”

fredvh on May 30, 2014 at 18:29:02

“so are you saying since planes didn't exist when the constitution was written they are excluded?

how about 9 mm hand guns?
same thing.

heck, there are other ways to defend yourself and hunt.
use a bow for example.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 30, 2014 at 14:44:06 in Politics

“Right...imaginary state law, even better. While we are talking about laws that either no longer exist or never did, how about the ones from earlier last century that allowed for involuntary commitment essentially at the will of the family or court.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 30, 2014 at 14:21:40 in Politics

“Any number of imaginary laws could have prevented it.”

fredvh on May 30, 2014 at 14:23:42

“if the NRA and GOP wouldn't have freaked out and allowed that one to pass....it would have.
that one isn't imaginary.
it was written and ready to go into effect part of the CA code 8100-8109”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 30, 2014 at 14:17:57 in Politics

“Even if you argue that there is a right to travel(a stretch) there is no right to do so in a plane or car...these are privileges.”

fredvh on May 30, 2014 at 14:22:35

“the supreme court has ruled it is a right.
corfield vs coryell

and no case has ever defined which kind of travel.”
‘Stop & Frisk' Policy Nabs Thousands of Kids in a Florida City, Finds 5-Year-Olds ‘Suspicious'

‘Stop & Frisk' Policy Nabs Thousands of Kids in a Florida City, Finds 5-Year-Olds ‘Suspicious'

Commented May 30, 2014 at 12:50:06 in Miami

“To be fair, anyone dressed in a hoodie, sweats and gloves in Miami in the middle of summer probably deserves the description "suspicious". Just sayin'/”

AnuWoman on May 30, 2014 at 14:25:42

“You are not being fair.

According to the report filled out by the officer, he was "wearing gray sweatpants, a red hoodie and black gloves” giving the police "just cause” to question him. In the report, he was labeled a "suspicious person.”

------>He was an 11-year-old boy on his way to football practice.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 22:10:49 in Politics

“Possibly the cops as an instrument of the mental health laws. Gun laws were never in question as none applied.”

fredvh on May 30, 2014 at 13:12:40

“if the one i told you about earlier was actually passed when it was presented, it could/would have if the cops had all the info”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 22:08:02 in Politics

“Neither driving a car or flying on a plane are rights. Indefinite detention is an abomination perpetrated by this administration and the last.”

fredvh on May 30, 2014 at 13:13:14

“there is a constitutional right to travel
no supreme court has ever defined any limits to that right.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 20:25:41 in Politics

“The police in this case had full information, a request from the family and were contacted by his mental health professional and couldn't commit him, even for 72 hours. You are correct, it could have been stopped. This was a failure of the mental health system and laws.”

fredvh on May 29, 2014 at 21:37:27

“and the cops and the mental health/gun laws.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 20:19:40 in Politics

“Got an example of a right that gets taken away all the time without a judge being involved?”

fredvh on May 29, 2014 at 21:38:32

“i just gave you one. judges are not involved
or, there is indefinite detention
or there is the no fly list.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 16:45:53 in Politics

“I imagine the ACLU would have freaked as well, though I'm not familiar with the exact legislation you are speaking of. Infringing on private rights without a court being involved is problematic...no matter the specific right involved, especially when no crime has been committed.”

fredvh on May 29, 2014 at 18:34:04

“it happens all the time.
for instance, being arrested and your car impounded if you refuse a breath test.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 16:29:25 in Politics

“Certainly not in this case...he was never committed in the first place.”

fredvh on May 29, 2014 at 18:31:42

“if police could have temporarily taken his guns if they had the full information and suspected?
it could have been stopped.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 16:28:11 in Politics

“You are correct in part. I believe the mental health system failed in this case.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 14:44:29 in Politics

“Considering that in this case the young man still wouldn't have been banned from owning firearms as the mental health system failed in advance, I'm not sure what your point is.”

fredvh on May 29, 2014 at 14:48:08

“my point is the NRA was also against the proposed 2010 law which would have allowed authorities to temporarily confiscate guns from someone who was deemed dangerous until a court could hold a hearing.
but the GOP and NRA freaked”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 14:39:36 in Politics

“Good.”

fredvh on May 29, 2014 at 14:49:10

“but the case in CA and many other mass killings could be stopped if that were allowed”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 14:32:38 in Politics

“So you agree that states don't provide enough information to the system?”

fredvh on May 29, 2014 at 14:33:20

“because of weak federal laws.
which the NRA helped write, like this one”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 14:29:57 in Politics

“So your argument is that the mental health system failed because the CDC didn't do a study on gun control?”

huffreader00 on May 29, 2014 at 14:55:13

“Nope. Yours is.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 14:26:43 in Politics

“By this do you mean the requirement that there be a legal avenue for the individual to get their name removed from the list if it is there erroneously?

NICS reporting was always voluntary on the part of the states...they just lose their funding if they don't report a significant percentage(90% comes to mind, but it's been a while so feel free to double check me).”

fredvh on May 29, 2014 at 14:35:04

“if someone is put on this list due to error, yes. they can appeal

just like someone can appeal any other reason they fail a background check.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 13:59:40 in Politics

“At what?”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 13:59:14 in Politics

“Aren't gun crimes a matter of public record?”

huffreader00 on May 29, 2014 at 14:20:07

“the GOP stripped the CDC in 2012 of researching and reporting saying it wasnt a "legitimate" expenditure.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/12/gun_violence_research_nra_and_congress_blocked_gun_control_studies_at_cdc.html
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 13:55:07 in Politics

“Regardless of your emotional response, had the young man been committed he would have been banned by federal law from purchasing a firearm. Exactly what law do you feel would have effected his purchasing firearms without there first being a serious legal inquiry into his competence?”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 13:51:12 in Politics

“The FBI's NICS system ties the databases together. Had this young man been found mentally ill(legally mind you) he would have been banned from purchasing a firearm. Don't have an answer on the mental health side. Doubt there will ever be an effective system in regards to mental health issues without violating individual rights...not in regards to guns as a note, but in regards to involuntary commitment. The ACLU would be all over any attempt to abridge those rights.

Pretty sure the NRA doesn't spend a nickel lobbying for a ban on involuntary commitment of mentally ill individuals.”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 13:40:26 in Politics

“Come around to what? Did I somewhere state that there should be no background checks for criminal or mental health issues?

Already have them...the states don't bother to report to them. Enforce the laws on the books before you whine about a lack of regulation.”

huffreader00 on May 29, 2014 at 13:44:25

“Nice try...”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 13:37:13 in Politics

http://smartgunlaws.org/federal-law-on-mental-health-reporting/

"The Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits any person from selling or otherwise transferring a firearm or ammunition to any person who has been “adjudicated as a mental defective” or “committed to any mental institution.”1 Such persons are prohibited from possessing firearms.2"

"The NICS system includes three federal databases; two of these – the Interstate Identification Index (“III”) and the NICS Index – contain information used to determine whether a person is disqualified from possessing firearms on the basis of mental health. The III includes mental health information that states have reported to the FBI as part of their criminal history records, such as findings of not guilty by reason of insanity or incompetence to stand trial. The NICS Index includes two files into which federal agencies and the states can enter information about individuals who have a disqualifying mental health history – the Mental Defective File and the Denied Persons File.12 The Denied Persons File includes the names of individuals who are prohibited from purchasing a firearm but does not identify the reason they are prohibited.13 Hence, states may avoid transferring private mental health information by identifying persons to NICS as prohibited purchasers without indicating that they are denied due to a mental health history.14"”
NRA Finally Meets Its Match

NRA Finally Meets Its Match

Commented May 29, 2014 at 12:14:24 in Politics

“Actually, the FBI's NICS system tracks mental health patients when states bother to report them.”
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