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Gross Failure of the Media
Commented Nov 20, 2009 at 19:45:14 in Media
“Actually there is a difference in the two that seems to be missed in this debate. There was evidence of vote fraud in the Bush election whereas with regard to Acorn there has only been evidence of false voter registration. Those are two very different things. Registration fraud rarely leads to voter fraud since if they slip through and actually get a ID card they do not cross reference in the books at the ballot locales and so they are not allowed to vote. Not to mention that Acorn actually reported the registration fraud themselves and threw those fraudulent registrations out. In the Bush election the entire content of ballot boxes were discarded and computer readouts were altered. If you remember during this last election there was actually evidence of fraud in the counting of ballots as well, but those were in McCain's favor, not Obama's. There were districts in NY for instance that are majority Democratic and majority African American that somehow managed to have ZERO votes for Obama.
Regardless of any of that, let's be real. Gore actually won the popular vote and the Supreme Court stopped the counting in Florida and declared Bush the winner. In this election, Obama won both by a large margin. The fact that 52% of Republicans refuse to accept the legitimacy of President Obama is pure partisan BS and nutty to boot.”
Regardless of any of that, let's be real. Gore actually won the popular vote and the Supreme Court stopped the counting in Florida and declared Bush the winner. In this election, Obama won both by a large margin. The fact that 52% of Republicans refuse to accept the legitimacy of President Obama is pure partisan BS and nutty to boot.”
ThermoChemist replied on Nov 21, 2009 at 12:47:41
“Well stated..!
Something I've always had a problem with is people's "fake equivalences"; and CrzyRussll's comment is a prime example of what I'm referring to.
The claim that people suggesting that Bush stole the elections is the SAME as people now claiming that Obama did NOT win his election. The former is based on factual evidence; while the latter is delusional thinking..!
They equate Registration Fraud with Voter Fraud..!
Joe Wilson's infamous, and inappropriate, "You lie"? No problem to them. To them, it's the same as any previous President getting critiqued (never mind following proper Congressional decorum).
A President "misleading" the country about the presence of WMD in Iraq? To them, that's NOT as bad as a President lying about 0ral sex.
Recent example:
A MULTITUDE of lies in Palin's book were pointed out by various people/sources. What are the typical comments from Palin Supporters? Along the lines of "Well, at least she didn't say there were 57 states..!"
[I'm like "WTH are you talking about? How the hell do you people think?]
They equate "mis-speaks" (verbal gaffes) with outright fabrications, obfuscations, and continual bending of the truth [by Palin].
FOX News bias? No problem to them. They simply claim that ALL News channels are biased. [completely neglecting that FOX News is CONTINUALLY guilty of deceptive practices like: exaggerating numbers, fabricated stories, mislabeled chyrons, erroneous video editing, etc.]”
Something I've always had a problem with is people's "fake equivalences"; and CrzyRussll's comment is a prime example of what I'm referring to.
The claim that people suggesting that Bush stole the elections is the SAME as people now claiming that Obama did NOT win his election. The former is based on factual evidence; while the latter is delusional thinking..!
They equate Registration Fraud with Voter Fraud..!
Joe Wilson's infamous, and inappropriate, "You lie"? No problem to them. To them, it's the same as any previous President getting critiqued (never mind following proper Congressional decorum).
A President "misleading" the country about the presence of WMD in Iraq? To them, that's NOT as bad as a President lying about 0ral sex.
Recent example:
A MULTITUDE of lies in Palin's book were pointed out by various people/sources. What are the typical comments from Palin Supporters? Along the lines of "Well, at least she didn't say there were 57 states..!"
[I'm like "WTH are you talking about? How the hell do you people think?]
They equate "mis-speaks" (verbal gaffes) with outright fabrications, obfuscations, and continual bending of the truth [by Palin].
FOX News bias? No problem to them. They simply claim that ALL News channels are biased. [completely neglecting that FOX News is CONTINUALLY guilty of deceptive practices like: exaggerating numbers, fabricated stories, mislabeled chyrons, erroneous video editing, etc.]”
The New Strategy for Obama's War: Precision Power
Commented Nov 17, 2009 at 23:41:13 in Politics
“Ditto to 23000 Days post! What an apt description of the Obama administration's approach to Af-Pak. I sympathize with them, it is going to be difficult for Obama, Clinton, Gates, et al to explain this intricate and complicated situation. As much as I dislike war, the consequences of abandoning the area would be horrendous and I'm not sure we can live with that. I remain hopeful that our civilian personnel and humanitarian aid workers are able to continue their work and assist the people in the midst of it.”
Israel Stands Alone
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 05:23:40 in World
“Thank you, it gets on my nerves when people claim that. Even W told them not to advance on Iran. I also think that it is illogical to compare President Obama to Carter as he does. President Obama seems to lean more towards Bush 41's rationalist foreign policy philosophy.”
No One Is More American Than I Am
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 14:31:20 in Politics
“Thank you ! I have been very disturbed by the religious bigotry on display regarding the recent violence. It is refreshing to read your post, there needs to be a lot of push-back! I have been encouraged by the response by the General's and other military leaders response to this prejudicial commentary by the right wing. I thought it prescient that an Army Chief of Staff interviewed on CNN stated firmly that if the diversity of the Army was affected as a result of this horrendous act that it would be even more detrimental than the act itself. Kudos to you for standing up for the great diversity of our country!”
What Do We Want? Change! When Do We Want It? Ten Minutes Ago!
Commented Oct 28, 2009 at 03:24:23 in Politics
“Thanks! I have been making a like argument whenever people I know start griping. It's funny how at the beginning of the Obama Administration polls showed that people expected it would take about 2 years for Obama to get us back on course - the impatience and short memories of our public is making it even harder for the President to enact already incredibly difficult policy changes.”
Matt7 replied on Oct 28, 2009 at 09:50:39
“And daily fodder for the media, the GOP and their tr0lies.”
Debbie Wasserman Schultz for President/Vice-President in 2016?
Commented Oct 14, 2009 at 06:00:05 in Politics
“I second that motion! Love Debbie, she's one tough cookie!”
The Outrage Pandemic
Commented Oct 11, 2009 at 01:44:17 in Politics
“Add me to your growing list of folks who are very proud of our President and not at all outraged. I am very excited about the progress that has already been made and all of the seeds that he has planted that will sprout soon. I think that the outrage pandemic is the expression our national growing pains. Progress is rough and tough work and it takes time. People need to relax a bit and understand what the President means when he talks about the Ship of State moving slowly but effecting immense change.”
Get Off Obama's Back: Second Thoughts From Michael Moore
Commented Oct 10, 2009 at 23:58:57 in Politics
“Hear! Hear! I was appalled that the left joined in the ridiculing of our President regarding the Nobel Prize. To not recognize that his election transformed politics around the world for the better and altered the world's view of America in a tremendously positive way is to wear blinders that do not allow us to see beyond our borders. This was an international award given by another country, so why would we expect them to judge President Obama on domestic policy? They were clearly moved by his election and the impact it had on the world and they are encouraged by his commitment to nuclear disarmament. Who are we to second guess their reasoning or say he doesn't deserve the award? That is so Kanye West!”
Where's the Change? It's Everywhere
Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 18:19:20 in Politics
“I think the disappointment has been misdirected. The President cannot force the more conservative Democrats in Congress to support progressive legislation. That's our job!
It seems the left-wing has chosen to sit back and complain that President Obama hasn't moved fast or far enough while the right has mobilized and managed to scare the Democrats in Congress from advancing his agenda. We need to step up to the plate and show this country that there really is a progressive movement out here. A movement is not comprised of one person, it requires a groundswell to propel the movement forward. If you want progressive change, you have to do the hard work that it entails.”
It seems the left-wing has chosen to sit back and complain that President Obama hasn't moved fast or far enough while the right has mobilized and managed to scare the Democrats in Congress from advancing his agenda. We need to step up to the plate and show this country that there really is a progressive movement out here. A movement is not comprised of one person, it requires a groundswell to propel the movement forward. If you want progressive change, you have to do the hard work that it entails.”
Drjimmy72296 replied on Sep 28, 2009 at 19:01:43
“Yet Obama has no problem forcing liberal Democrats to toe the party line. When Obama wants something, he gets it. He went after Lloyd Doggett over the cap-and-trade bill. He went after Lynn Woolsey over the war funding bill.
This is, according to Woolsey, what Democrats who cross Obama's agenda to serve their progressive base are told: "We're not going to help you. You'll never hear from us again."
So don't tell me Obama has no sway with his party. The liberals he's threatening don't need his help to get re-elected. They come from the bluest districts in the company.
The Blue Dogs he's allowing to set policy are mostly in danger of losing their seats and need help from the party and Obama in particular to keep their jobs.
Also, what's Obama's role in this. We worked to elect him. Now he has to do the job. It's not all date nights and European vacations.”
This is, according to Woolsey, what Democrats who cross Obama's agenda to serve their progressive base are told: "We're not going to help you. You'll never hear from us again."
So don't tell me Obama has no sway with his party. The liberals he's threatening don't need his help to get re-elected. They come from the bluest districts in the company.
The Blue Dogs he's allowing to set policy are mostly in danger of losing their seats and need help from the party and Obama in particular to keep their jobs.
Also, what's Obama's role in this. We worked to elect him. Now he has to do the job. It's not all date nights and European vacations.”
Where's the Change? It's Everywhere
Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 18:17:47 in Politics
“Thanks Dylan! I've been making a similar argument. I do think we should continue to voice our concerns and push the President and Congress to do more, but I too find the argument that he hasn't done anything irrational. Not only did he invest more for energy, he invested more in education than has ever been spent, and a huge amount in health care as well. He managed to invest in the upgrading and updating of public buildings, mass transportation, health IT and education that will save us tons of money in the out-years. For decades this country has ignored our infrastructure, science, and energy policy, and within the first month of his administration this President managed to change all of that. In the next year we'll see significant job growth in green energy, science, health care and education that will help advance our country after years of stagnation. Next year he'll take on immigration reform, Social Security and Medicare. We haven't had a President truly willing to take on these difficult items for years and he deserves credit for being willing to while under constant attack from the right and the left. He could easily decide to focus entirely on the economic crisis, the wars and many foreign policy crises that have come his way. Instead he's chosen to push ahead with his policies for change...”
Why Health Care Reform May Kill the USA
Commented Sep 18, 2009 at 15:48:24 in Politics
“While treason isn't applicable, I'd say that sedition is. Sedition is a term of law which refers to overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.
Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.
I'd also purport that the 25 Republican members of Congress who went Israel and told their leadership that the Obama Administration is undermining Israel and appeasing Iran is seditious. Furthermore, the Republican Congressmen who went to China and told their leadership not to trust the Obama Administration's economic policies or trust that we will honor our debt is also seditious, if not leaning towards treason.”
Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.
I'd also purport that the 25 Republican members of Congress who went Israel and told their leadership that the Obama Administration is undermining Israel and appeasing Iran is seditious. Furthermore, the Republican Congressmen who went to China and told their leadership not to trust the Obama Administration's economic policies or trust that we will honor our debt is also seditious, if not leaning towards treason.”
From the Raft replied on Sep 19, 2009 at 01:02:53
“I agree with you.”
Ignored by All Media: Major Health Care Provider Organizations Testify in Support of House Bill
Commented Sep 17, 2009 at 19:59:45 in Politics
“Thanks, I watched the hearings as well and wondered why no one is covering them. The hearing in Kucinich's Domestic Policy Subcommittee oversight hearing on private insurance companies effecting medical procedures. It was poignant as well and all of those who testified supported a public option. The Cigna whistle blower, Mr. Potter, was there and he provided inside information on how private insurance companies do everything they can to deny claims and eliminate customers. One witness also gave a very moving response to Republican Rep. Jordon when confronted about single payer vs. public option vs. simply free market approaches including health savings plans; the father took Mr. Jordon to task, saying he was himself a Republican, but that the GOP was talking out of both sides of their mouths. He emotionally told the panel about how his daughter's medication went from $1,000 a vial to $25,000 a vial in the span of a year due to the monopoly of the pharmaceutical company and went on to tell of a time when he went to Belize and his daughter got sick and was hospitalized for 4 days and the bill was only $7.00, including medication.
Take the time to watch the hearing, it is very compelling.
http://c-span.com/Watch/Media/2009/09/16/HP/A/23251/House%20Oversight%20Cmte%20Hearing%20on%20Private%20Health%20Insurance.aspx”
Take the time to watch the hearing, it is very compelling.
http://c-span.com/Watch/Media/2009/09/16/HP/A/23251/House%20Oversight%20Cmte%20Hearing%20on%20Private%20Health%20Insurance.aspx”
dayala replied on Sep 18, 2009 at 14:35:50
“thanks for posting the link...sent it to The Ed Show.”
Obama vs. the Lobbyists: A Scorecard for the Future of American Politics
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 22:33:30 in Politics
“Sadly it is looking like the Supreme Court may very well empower corporations to influence elections even more, not less.
We the people need to present a major show of force. We need to get behind Obama and push the Administration to stand their ground. Write and call your Senators and Congresswo/men daily! I'd love to see us storm Washington and show the tea baggers what 2 million really looks like!!”
We the people need to present a major show of force. We need to get behind Obama and push the Administration to stand their ground. Write and call your Senators and Congresswo/men daily! I'd love to see us storm Washington and show the tea baggers what 2 million really looks like!!”
Obama, Progressives and Health Care Reform
Commented Aug 22, 2009 at 06:32:11 in Politics
“Great recommendations, thank you. I worked on a quality control outcomes measurement committee at a hospital for several years and it is shocking how many medical errors exist.”
Promisin1 replied on Aug 23, 2009 at 19:36:27
“I concur! Great recommendations!”
Obama, Progressives and Health Care Reform
Commented Aug 22, 2009 at 06:29:18 in Politics
“Amen to that! We called this a movement, didn't we? This has always been bigger than the President, it is our movement. When Martin Luther King asked Johnson to pass voting rights legislation he told him, "make me." When President Obama met with Progressive bloggers and journalists he essentially said the same thing. The Executive Branch is not supposed to write legislation, their role is to enact it. Therefore, we have to convince our Representatives and Senators from a grass-roots level.”
Obama, Progressives and Health Care Reform
Commented Aug 22, 2009 at 06:11:52 in Politics
“Thank you! I have been making this argument for weeks now with some progressive family members and friends. I'm attending a town hall on Monday to show my support for reform. Like then Sen. Obama often closed with, "Let's get to work."”
freelyb replied on Aug 22, 2009 at 10:18:45
“Gratitude is due for your efforts, but exactly what form of reform are you supporting? Progressives could really lose credibility if we willy-nilly support something that is geared more toward making industry happy than towards helping people. Be careful on this.”
Hagel Joining Intelligence Oversight Board Neglected by Bush, Obama
Commented Aug 17, 2009 at 19:49:51 in Politics
“I don't think Hagel is a mindless Obama loyalist. He is independent minded and willing to speak his mind. Obama trusts and respects his opinion, so I see this as a very positive move. I would love to see him in Defense if Gates leaves (although Gates has indicated that he loves working for Obama and wants to stay).”
How Bad Do You Want The Public Option?
Commented Aug 17, 2009 at 15:07:45 in Politics
“I couldn't agree more! It is time for reform supporters to get off their butts and work for a public option. Complacency will kill reform.”
The Left Is Also Obama's Problem
Commented Aug 17, 2009 at 15:01:04 in Politics
“I certainly hope that you are attending town halls, signing petitions, calling congress, etc. It seems to me that the complacency on the left has left the administration vulnerable. When supporters of reform sit on their butts and allow dissenters to hijack this debate and kill reform we are the ones that are failing to effect change, not President Obama. It is time for us to stand behind the administration, show that we can get majority support for a public option and win this dang debate. Time for us to get fired up and ready to go.”
The Loyal Opposition
Commented Feb 21, 2009 at 11:21:51 in Politics
“I appreciate your input, Joe, & hope you continue! Posts that drip w/ vitriol aren't representative of most progressives. Unfortunately, the anonymity of the medium allows some of our worst qualities to shine in a public forum. One of the most appealing things about President Obama is his manner, showing us that we can disagree w/o being disagreeable. His invitation to an intellectual but vibrant debate is what we need in these trying times & I for one am happy to see you rise to the challenge. I watch your show b/c most of the time your take on the day's news is a breath of fresh air. I've also been surprised by how often I agree w/ Pat Buchanan on your show! I especially enjoyed the both of you hollering about "economic patriotism" re: the auto industry. I appreciated you noting the hypocrisy of GOP support of limiting benefits & pay for US auto workers. If we restrict rich people's bonuses we're socialists, but when it comes to unions it is good economics to force wages down? Ludicrous! I also appreciated your response to Santelli. It seems Obama's pragmatism has rubbed off on you & I applaud your common sense response of "he has no choice, he has to do something." Don't be discouraged by jerks who take an opportunity to dump on you, there are many of us out here who respond positively to the invitation to an intellectual debate minus partisan BS. Thanks for joining in the”
A Message to Obama's Progressive Critics
Commented Dec 07, 2008 at 22:50:27 in Politics
“I don't get all the complaining. Obama will be launching a huge green infrastructure renewal project, is closing Guantanamo, bringing most of the troops home (with the best benefit package in years), will enact significant health care reform and will be giving the middle class a tax cut - how much more progressive could he be at the jump? As for Hillary as Secretary of State, I didn't like the way she mocked Obama regarding Iraq and Iran, but keep in mind she was mostly doing that in order to draw contrasts with Barack. She has shown an ability to be a team player in the Senate and she understands the role of the office so I do not share the fear that she will undermine him. Obama's national and international support will go a long way to provide political cover for those in his cabinet to be more progressive than they have been allowed to be politically in the past. Gates has been sounding more and more like Obama for the last two years, so I don't get why anyone would have an issue with him either.”
A Message to Obama's Progressive Critics
Commented Dec 07, 2008 at 22:32:28 in Politics
“Well said! He will get no where if he cuts far left and alienates the conservatives and moderates and we will continue to be stuck in gridlock. To assume that all of the Democrats in the House and Senate are liberal or progressive is a mistake. There are many many moderate and conservative Democrats and he needs them in order to pass legislation. However, I wouldn't fear that he is going to continue with "Bush" policies just by keeping some folks in the fold. As he has said, he appreciates a good debate and is willing to listen to all sides, but he is the "decider" and I trust that he will make choices that will move us to a much better place internationally and domestically. The people who supported him after researching him know that he has always been an incrementalist. He understands that the only way to effect lasting change is to allow all sides to participate and take ownership. We all need to be in this fight together. Without that, we will get nothing done. Remember, divided we will fail.”
VP Debate: McCain's Big Gamble Comes Up Snake Eyes
Commented Oct 04, 2008 at 04:33:26 in Politics
“The American people are slow to wrath, but once that wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming flame.
- Theodore Roosevelt
Ironic that McCain's hero penned the words that could be the key to stopping McCain's candidacy.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
Ironic that McCain's hero penned the words that could be the key to stopping McCain's candidacy.”
myst79 replied on Oct 04, 2008 at 11:26:34
“I hope your right, Tane. Because the majority of the American people more interested in 'Dancing with the Stars' or the glut of reality shows don't seem to get any of this. And probably won't until its too late & its their home thats on the line.”
GOP Mocks Public Service
Commented Sep 07, 2008 at 01:13:22 in Home
“I'm with Bill Maher, it was maddening to watch these contemptuous people laughing out loud while mocking the Democrats – that they have the nerve to laugh on national television after spending the last eight years running our country into the ground was infuriating.”
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