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Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 4, 2014 at 16:33:50 in Politics

“If federal prosecutors are so overworked, and i'm not saying they aren't. Don't the law makers know this?
If they knew how overworked they were,
If they knew that the assault weapons ban would not reduce crime.
If they knew that the "gun free, drug free" school zone program would not stop school shootings.
If they knew that 20 of the last 25 school shooting were done by people on psychotropic drugs.
Why did they come out with a re-vamped assault weapons ban instead of a stiffer laws against crazy people ban?
Why did they do it?

Could it be to create a situation in which the public was so incensed and outraged that they would push along further gun control legislation?
Do they seek to create an environment of despair so that they can have their way with us politically?
isn't that morally equivalent to rape?”

fredvh on Jun 7, 2014 at 07:58:36

“wow
paranoid?

did you get that argument off of a right wing conspiracy website?”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 4, 2014 at 01:11:04 in Politics

“and (shock) misstating facts to produce alarm. In order to get people to support their agenda. Like saying that America has the highest rate of gun homicide in the world.
A quick look at Civitas (http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf)
quickly shows that the U.S leads in none of those areas. But instead of stating the facts, they embellish, spin, Lie.
As far as rigging Polls take a look a the Dr. Arthur Kellerman Survey, or Dr. GJ Wintemute's Survey. biggest hack jobs I've ever seen.
All funded by the Joyce Foundation, who've got their fingers into the Medical community so deep they can tell if they have a hernia when they cough.
They've been trying to treat gun violence as a medical problem for the past 20 years.

Guns are similar to organic disease vectors in exactly 0 ways. Both Kellerman and Wintemute are Doctors, so the common lay person thinks that they are automatically proficient in everything including criminology, sociology and statistical method. They aren't.

If you don't think the gun-control folks rig polls, you might need to do a little research. Does the NRA rig polls... I'm sure they do...they difference is The NRA is trying to preserve the 2nd amendment, while the gun-control folks want to get me trade liberty for a hope of security. I ain't buying.”

quick-k on Jun 4, 2014 at 05:33:02

“quote crime here......not the UK guns are a public health and safety issue”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 3, 2014 at 19:52:12 in Politics

“"The number of shots fired by criminals has not changed significantly even with the increased capacity of handguns and other firearms. Indeed, the number of shots from revolvers (all within 6-8 round capacity) and semi-automatics were about the same – 2.04 vs. 2.53."

Urban firearm deaths: A five-year perspective, Michael McGonigal, John Cole, William Schwab, Donald Kauder, Michael Rotondo, Peter Angood, Journal of Trauma, 1993.

In a crime or gun battle, there is seldom time or need to shoot more.

"Fatal criminal shootings declined from 4.3% to 3.3% from 1974 through 1995, when the increase in semi-automatics and large capacity handguns were rising at their fastest rate".

FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, 1966-1995.

"Fatal shootings of police officers declined sharply from 1988 through 1993".

Firearm injury from crime, Marianne Zawitz, 1996, Bureau of Justice Statistics

So....yeah...the high cap magazines were a non issue as well. Mr. Kosper couldn't find any correlation, so he made an assumption, at least that would be my assumption..;-)”

monkeymouse on Jun 3, 2014 at 22:51:01

“And you know what they say about people who assume...”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 23:22:17 in Politics

“I think maybe some additional quotes may answer that question.

“No one should have any illusions about what was accomplished (by the ban). Assault weapons play a part in only a small percentage of crime. The provision is mainly symbolic; its virtue will be if it turns out to be, as hoped, a stepping stone to broader gun control.”
Washington Post editorial
September 15, 1994

“Passing a law like the assault weapons ban is a symbolic, purely symbolic move ... Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation.”
Charles Krauthammer, Syndicated Columnist, The Washington Post
April 5, 1996

As a matter of a fact, when the background check system was first activated during the Clinton administration they flagged 536,000 prohibited buyers with NICS. Only 6700 (1%) were charged with breaking the law. 3353 of them were able to get a firearm anyway. the DOJ only investigated 110 of them.

Lax enforcement, so that the problem will grow. coupled with laws that endanger our children to hopefully create enough emotional urgency to pass more gun control measures. It's actually really sick, depraved. I'm sad that you all cannot/ will not see it.”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 22:05:07 in Politics

“I wasn't being obtuse, like most gun-control folk you either intentionally misuse words to create a sense of drama or you really do not know much about guns, My comment was merely an attempt at both education and deflation.
I thought of a bunch more reasons to own an "Assault Weapon"

They are easy to operate
They are very reliable in outdoor conditions (backpacking, hunting, etc.)
They are accurate
They are good for recreational and competitive target shooting, such as;
hunters use these firearms (especially for wild boar hunting in the south)
Three-gun target matches
Camp Perry competitions, especially the Service Rifle events
DCM/CMP competitions
Bodyguard simulations
Oh yes, and by the way. According to 10 USC § 311, United States Code we, you, me and every other able bodied man in the U.S, between the ages of 17 and 45 is a part of what is called the unorganized Militia, (that's the military in case you didn't know) in case we ever have to fight here on American soil, I hope you have a 30 round magazine”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 21:14:35 in Politics

“sorry Mark, HuffPost didn't post the first part of the...post. Here is the first part.

Okay your first point. Apparently Dianna Feinstein wanted to take the guns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj4AcjyuV38

So did Rep Jan Schakowsky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVz2lHODQvs&list=UUe6zkHQpTMBhiGPCiNA0qMg

How about NY mayor Andrew Como: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EFq9PMhIj4

A San Diego Police chief: http://www.washingtonguardian.com/top-cops-get-political-guns

And how about Eric Holder, you know the DOJ guy that put guns in the hands of Mexican Drug runners so he could prove that America was supplying them with guns. He doesn’t want to ban guns, he just wants to brainwash us into not wanting them anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyqBxD-3xw

As far as the bible is concerned, as long as they let the 1st amendment stand I’m good on religion.
My notion of the Constitution is called the “standard model” it’s the prevailing view held by most constitutional scholars, and strangely the Supreme Court. Bout the only dissenting view I know of is Carl Bogus.

So what if the 2nd amendment was put in place to put down slave revolts, it just goes to prove my point. Free men own guns, slaves don’t.

What is sane about letting the government dupe you out of your right to defend yourself? The “common sense” gun laws are nothing but stepping stones to outright gun confiscation

Perhaps the research is biased, perhaps the NRA does fund some research. The Joyce Foundation, which is THE gun-control think tank and cash cow, funds all the gun-control research. Funny, their research always come up aces for gun-control.”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 21:07:37 in Politics

“funny that. the gun control crowd predicted it would be like the shootout at the O.K corral when Florida passed the concealed carry law. didn't happen. Matter of a fact, Violent crime fell pretty dramatically. Is it so hard to believe that criminals are afraid of armed victims? is it so hard to believe that their are powerful forces in this world that have an agenda? You say it's the NRA. but the NRA isn't trying to take anything from me. Gun Control Pundits are. The Founding Fathers warned us that an armed populace was a defense against tyranny. You probably don't like the Founding Fathers Very much so let me give you a few other quotes by some folk you may respect more

“Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
MAHATMA GANDHI, PEACEFUL REVOLUTIONARY

“If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.”
The Dali Lama

"Those who have the command of the arms in a country are masters of the state, and have it in their power to make what revolutions they please. [Thus,] there is no end to observations on the difference between the measures likely to be pursued by a minister backed by a standing army, and those of a court awed by the fear of an armed people."
ARISTOTLE”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 2, 2014 at 20:44:38 in Politics

“The reason I think that the Joyce Foundation is biased is because they are the ones trying to subvert the Constitution in my humble opinion. The NRA on the other hand is made up of several million people like me, who see the Constitution as the law of the land.

The report concluded that the results were "mixed" Think about that for a minute. Now while you are thinking about it let me tell you what the National Institute of Justice said.

"We cannot credit the ban with any of the nation's recent drop in gun violence" " The ban covered on 1.39% of models of guns on the market, so the ban's effectiveness is automatically limited"

An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003, National Institute of Justice, June 2004

“The ban has failed to reduce the average number of victims per gun murder incident or multiple gunshot wound victims.”

“The public safety benefits of the 1994 ban have not yet been demonstrated.”

Impacts of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban: 1994-96, National Institute of Justice, March 1999
It's amazing to me that Christopher Koper could not find these study finding in his research. It's no wonder to me that the Assault Weapons ban failed,

"Nationally Assault Weapons were used in 1.4% of crimes involving firearms, 0.25% of all violent crime before the ban"
Targeting Guns, Gary Kleck
Assault Weapons were a non-issue. So why did they ban them?”

monkeymouse on Jun 3, 2014 at 10:27:46

“The quote explained the meaning of "mixed"--that oversized magazines were a way around the regs.”

Texsoroban on Jun 2, 2014 at 23:22:17

“I think maybe some additional quotes may answer that question.

“No one should have any illusions about what was accomplished (by the ban). Assault weapons play a part in only a small percentage of crime. The provision is mainly symbolic; its virtue will be if it turns out to be, as hoped, a stepping stone to broader gun control.”
Washington Post editorial
September 15, 1994

“Passing a law like the assault weapons ban is a symbolic, purely symbolic move ... Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation.”
Charles Krauthammer, Syndicated Columnist, The Washington Post
April 5, 1996

As a matter of a fact, when the background check system was first activated during the Clinton administration they flagged 536,000 prohibited buyers with NICS. Only 6700 (1%) were charged with breaking the law. 3353 of them were able to get a firearm anyway. the DOJ only investigated 110 of them.

Lax enforcement, so that the problem will grow. coupled with laws that endanger our children to hopefully create enough emotional urgency to pass more gun control measures. It's actually really sick, depraved. I'm sad that you all cannot/ will not see it.”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 1, 2014 at 23:44:17 in Politics

“I know of no gun that can fire 30 bullets at one time. Not even military fully automatic weapons can fire that fast. Perhaps, not being familiar with firearms terminology you meant a weapon that can hold 30 shells in a magazine. I’ll go with that. You wanted one reason. I’ll give you 5.
Large capacity magazines allow you to lay down a sustained volume of fire. Which is useful for many different things.
Keeping an enemy’s head down so your wife and kids can get away.
Keeping an enemy’s head down so your buddies can flank him and take him out.
During a firefight, with adrenaline pumping and people shooting at you, taking time to aim correctly can sometimes be problematic. It is a comfort knowing that you have more than 8 shots in case you miss.
There might be multiple attackers, in which case being able to engage targets without having to worry about reloading is a definite plus.
“A well-regulated militia” does not in this case mean stifled or the National Guard. It means having the tools for the job of war.”

TeraWatt60 on Jun 2, 2014 at 15:07:45

“and well regulated militia means just that unless you are some goofball "defending" the welfare cowboy Cliven Bundy or other crackpot”

TeraWatt60 on Jun 2, 2014 at 15:06:33

“don't be obtuse a 30 round magazine or clip is what I'm talking about and you know it. I'm not interested in your "comfort" and leave firefights to the military as every other civilized country does...”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented Jun 1, 2014 at 23:40:37 in Politics

“no. all the while living just about like everyone else. trying not to go to the bad side of town, trying to keep my family safe. worrying about the same things you worry about, but coming to different conclusions that what you do”

TeraWatt60 on Jun 2, 2014 at 15:10:04

“Like I said you're a paranoid...you seem to suffer from the delusion that we live in a "Mad Max" type world ...we don't and if anything about it does resemble that dystopia it from the clowns of the NRA and their "carry anywhere , anything " mentality”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented May 31, 2014 at 00:44:47 in Politics

“no. The polls funded by the Joyce Foundation show that Americans whant stricter gun control laws. The Joyce Foundation has funded a LOT of Polls, just as they have funded almost all of the gun control research. gee you think they might be a bit biased? it's no wonder that statisticians and criminologists have repeatedly torn apart both their polls and their research on issues ranging from sloppy technique to outright lies. If the majority of the public want stricter gun control laws how come the Democrats lost the house and the senate after the assault weapons ban during the Clinton administration? It's not the NRA that is keeping Obama from enacting his gun-control ideology (He sat on the board of directors for the Joyce Foundation for 8 years) it's the fact that an enraged public will make mincemeat out of his party should he try. The NRA is nothing but many millions of law abiding citizens like me.”

monkeymouse on Jun 2, 2014 at 08:57:51

“Funny how the Joyce Foundation is "biased" and the NRA is "not", and you just happen to agree with the one you think is "not". Anyway, Clinton's Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994, and expired in 2004, but it was the right thing to do and a politician should never be afraid of doing something unpopular just because it's right. The ban was the subject of study in its last year by Christopher Koper, Associate Professor of the Department of Criminology, Law and Society at George Mason University. "The final report concluded the ban’s success in reducing crimes committed with banned guns was “mixed.” Gun crimes involving assault weapons declined. However, that decline was “offset throughout at least the late 1990s by steady or rising use of other guns equipped with [large-capacity magazines].”" Koper, BTW, did receive two grants from the Joyce Foundation, but in 2010 and 2011, long after the ban expired.”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented May 31, 2014 at 00:28:46 in Politics

“I'd think that the medical community would fight tooth and nail as reporting mental health is a violation of Doctor-patient confidentiality. Lets see we gun nuts are paranoid that the gun control crowd is trying to subvert the constitution, while the gun control crowd has tried and tried to get guns out of the hands of citizens in clear violation of the constitution. it's not paranoid if it's the truth. the only delusional people I know of are the members of the gun control crowd who spew lies and doctored research in ever so unctuous sound bites to promote their agenda of gun confiscation.”

TeraWatt60 on May 31, 2014 at 09:22:39

“You whole post is nothing but paranoia. No one is going to confiscate your guns or your Bibles (as many of your crowd also "believe"). Your notion of the Constitution is simply based on leaving out the first clause of the second amendment. The state government of the time demanded all white males keep a gun (at the person's expense) so that they could conscript them to the militia to put down things like slave revolts or attacks on encroaching settlers by hostile Natives and the like. The states were afraid to lose that ability and demanded the 2nd Amendment. It has never ever been interpreted as an absolute right to own guns or personal nukes (seriously! not making that up)  and certainly taking them into taverns,churches or schools would have been unthinkable. You blame those in favor of sanity for supposedly "doctoring research" just like the tobacco companies (and now the oil and coal industries) do because,of course, their own research would be objective(?) and for the same reason...pure self-serving greed.  Tell one legitimate purpose for a semi-automatic firing 30 or more rounds at a time? If you are so incompetent or lazy that you can't hit your target after 9 rounds or have to reload you have no business with a gun in the first place! or if you are so afraid that that vicious rabbitt or deer  might attack you you need to shred it you are simply sick...”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented May 31, 2014 at 00:20:05 in Politics

“You know all of the mass shooting of the past 12 years have one thing in common, all of the assailants were on psychoactive drugs at the time. I think a red flag in the NICS database would be a good start.”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented May 31, 2014 at 00:14:25 in Politics

“Felons are already forbidden to ever own a gun according to USC 922(g)9, with the exception of certain white collar crimes. Actually, unlike some members of Congress, the vast majority of NRA members are law abiding citizens, So while your comment on NRA members being criminals is mildly amusing and probably had the desired effect of convincing a weak minded individual of same, it also intimated that the NRA was an all powerful entity that controls everything. Nicely done. Factually inaccurate, Morally reprehensible, about what I would expect.”
Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Americans Support Tighter Restrictions On Gun Ownership For The Mentally Ill, Poll Shows

Commented May 31, 2014 at 00:01:33 in Politics

“more strict laws. How about we enforce the ones we have already? I'ts already required that dealers do a background check with the NICS system. Attempting to purchase a gun if you have a criminal record will get you 10 years in prison. When NICS first went into effect it flagged around 536,000 prohibited buyers from 1993 to 2000. Did Federal Marshals arrest them all? No. Only 6700 suspects were charged with breaking the law. 3353 prohibited individuals were still able to purchase firearms, but only 110 of them were ever investigated. Of course enacting a law and then not enforcing it makes the problem looks worse, so you can enact more laws. The end result is the eventual elimination of firearms in the hands of citizens. Gun control people are crooked as a dogs hind leg.”
Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Commented May 5, 2014 at 10:24:15 in Politics

“funny thing about that. It's already illegal for criminals and the insane to buy firearms. but as we pro-gun folks have been saying for years. Criminals and the Insane don't obey the laws. gun laws don't stop those people, they stop law abiding people...the very people they don't need to stop.”

Hugh M Anatee on May 5, 2014 at 14:58:00

“I tried to respond, but for whatever reason, HuffPo censored me. So let me try again.

" Criminals and the Insane don't obey the laws. gun laws don't stop those people, "

Let me make sure I'm understanding what you're saying:

You're stating, that laws are pointless, because a criminal will just break them anyway. Correct?

If I am correct, then logically, one might ask, why have any laws? If they're just going to be broken, why have laws against rape? Against assault? Against theft? They'll just be broken.

Taking the next step with your argument, we get to Anarchy.

You have just advocated for Anarchy.

Congratulations.”
Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Commented May 5, 2014 at 10:17:26 in Politics

“Hey, there, sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Thank you for your reply. I love conversations like this because they are so confounding and enlightening at the same time. On one hand I get to listen to points of view I've not thought of before, and on the other I get to wonder at the conclusions reached.
You quoted 10 USC § 311, United States Code. You've probably heard of the Dick Act of 1903, I believe it was mentioned in the 3rd to the last paragraph in the document you linked for me. Under the Dick act the State Militia was formally unified under the U.S Military. Paid for by Federal money, stationed on land rented by the Fed and trained by U.S. Military officers. While not given the training the line troop are given they are required to maintain a certain level of training. Their paychecks come, not from the state, but from the U.S. government. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and tastes like a duck, it must be a duck. Call it militia, it’s still federally controlled, bought and paid for.”

PJ Parker on May 5, 2014 at 11:27:18

“It's still a bunch of weekend warriors, not the standing army.

Who gave the order to shoot? Obama?”
Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Commented May 2, 2014 at 15:05:02 in Politics

“well people are "rabid" about guns now because there has been a methodical, structured, financed and rabid push by powerful, well financed, influential and morally reprehensible people to take them away. using every lie, false fact, sound bite and any other Madison avenue style marketing technique they can to outlaw guns. gun owners have become rabid, because gun control advocated have become more and more vicious in their attacks on us. as far sa Jefferson is concerned, yeah they knew about repeating arms. maybe not AK-47's but there were repeating arms and things called organ guns that the founders would have been familiar with...they knew where it was all going, gunsmiths of the times knew where they wanted to be.”
Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Commented May 2, 2014 at 02:41:50 in Politics

“well regulated meant something different at the time. Regulation meant to ensure proper function, not to discourage, reduce and forbid. think about it from a state point of view. if the state had to raise a militia to fight, they would not have the resources to arm every militia man. therefore the militia had to provide their own arms. so the right of the people to keep and bear arms, was so that they would be a ready source of regular militia troops should the need arise.”

Hugh M Anatee on May 2, 2014 at 07:11:00

“Yes, I know it meant "to ensure proper function". I hardly think that any person with diminished mental capabilities being able to purchase a firearm is in any way a properly functioning militia.”
Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Commented May 2, 2014 at 02:35:20 in Politics

“Teri, are you holding a child in front of yourself as a shield from the fact that I have a right to own a firearm? Argumentatively that's the same as hiding behind a child in a gun fight. I love my kids more than life its self. and because I love my kids I want them to grow up in a world where they can protect themselves and the government fears them, not the other way around. Those Paper laws you so flippantly dismiss are about moral and ethical duty. free speech..which you are doing right now, has an inherent moral and ethical burden to it. try living in a country where their is not free speech and you have not moral or ethical duty. Same thing with the 2nd amendment, and all of the others. we have a moral and ethical duty to keep them, use them, punish misuse and never every let them be taken away.”
Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Commented May 2, 2014 at 02:23:41 in Politics

“the Founding Fathers were very wary of standing armies. Armies have a bad tendency to overthrow their governments. The also have a bad tendency to be used against the countries own citizens...cough...kent state massacre..cough cough...
the 2nd was put in place so that the states, would have a means of fighting the fed if the fed started becoming a tyrannical regime. to do that the states could draw upon their citizens, said citizens would provide their own arms (thats what well regulated means) in order to make up the militia.”

PJ Parker on May 2, 2014 at 05:43:26

“Almost 50 years ago, 4 students were killed at Kent State by the Ohio National Guard, which is a MILITIA. All members of the National Guard of the United States are also members of the militia of the United States as defined by 10 U.S.C. § 311.

They are civilians, playing soldier for the Army. The ONG fired without orders, 'cause they wuz scared of them unarmed students, and that loaded weapon was in their hands, and holding a gun makes you the law.

We have had a standing army for many, many decades, and not once have they risen up to fight against Americans.

The second amendment was put in place to appease the Southern States. The founders were trying unify the United States and create a Federal Army, but the Southern States were worried because they had to prevent insurrection of slaves.

Peter Maslowski gives us an excellent history lesson in his article ‘Understanding the Creation of the U.S. Armed Forces’. http://www.fpri.org/footnotes/1210.200704.maslowski.creationusarmedforces.html
He also discusses the second amendment's role.

Also, check out The Whiskey Rebellion, and see how the founders felt about citizens rising up against the United States of America.”
Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Commented May 2, 2014 at 02:14:33 in Politics

“True, for values of "easy" Much easier to kill someone with a gun than with your bare hands. The easiest way to kill a Whole Bunch of Folks, is to pass legislation disarming them, and then pass legislation declaring them verboten. That's what they did in China (twice), Rwanda, Turkey, Guatemala, Uganda, Cambodia, the Soviet Union and yes...Germany. Fun fact! most of the 2 million educated persons killed in Cambodia were killed by having the skulls caved in with an iron bar.
Even the Germans had to resort to methods besides guns to kill all the Jews/ homosexuals/Jehovah witness/ and political enemies. ovens, gas, hard work with little food...these methods were easier than killing with a gun..or at least less expensive. Heck the Russians just starved the people death after they took their guns...talk about easy.”
Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Commented May 2, 2014 at 01:57:10 in Politics

“or a knife
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/stabbings-reported-pennsylvania-high-school-article-1.1750425
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre

or a pressure cooker
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Marathon_bombings

a baseball bat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deltona_massacre

LOL... in looking up these articles I found an interesting article on snopes
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/baseballbats.asp
puts paid to the false rumor that baseball bats kill more people than guns, but the crime data table makes an interesting point. it clearly shows that violent crime has been on a decline in the US for past 11 years. I find that interesting because there have been rumors that snopes is biased, if they were they would have found a way to hide that little tidbit, as it is really damaging to the gun control claim that violence is escalating in the U.S.”
Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Here's A Look At All The Gun Control Laws Congress Has Passed Since Newtown

Commented May 2, 2014 at 01:36:16 in Politics

“so a 110 pound woman shooting a 230 pound rapist/ murder/ burgler before he can molest/ kill/ rob her is actually a coward? I will agree that most of the members of our government are cowards. I mean what happened to the senate and house when the assault weapons ban went into effect during the Clinton administration? The Democrats lost both of them. On top of them being cowards they are also most probably criminals as well, if Leland Yee is a sample of what gun control pundits are made of. http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/08/us/california-senator-indicted/

you know what...I think I've just figured out the gun control angle. They are all criminals..thats why they want to take our guns! It's a lot easier to rob/rape/kill somebody if they don't have a gun.”
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