“And the fact that the media and politics in general fail men to a far greater degree every day by discounting or outright hiding abuse of men, murder of men, rape of boys, restraining-order abuse, raped boys being forced to pay child support to their rapists, and the entire stereotype of the evil and disposable male who deserves every tragedy he receives, that's just fine because patriarchy, right?”
“Sexism is bad for everyone. Let's denounce sexism through a hearty dose of un-ironic sexism and hate. "Men bond through hatred" (lumping the different -isms and -phobias together for convenience) is just an age-old sexist stereotype of man as pure evil.
But that can't be sexism, because as feminists argue, men can't suffer discrimination. Men rule the world, despite universally making up the world's poorest, most disenfranchised, and most abused.
Kathleen Hanna's words positively sizzle with hate and the saddest thing is she doesn't even realize it, blissfully ignorant of the falsehood and abuse she spews and thinking she's making the world a better place. Even worse, many people agree with her and see her statements as patently obvious.”
Kenny99 on Dec 13, 2013 at 22:01:16
“Yes, all those poor black boys living in poverty rule the world. They have so much power over rich white women.
Feminism is the real racism. Those boys have the hardest lives of anyone in the country. Yet, the feminists claim that they have power, are born in privilege, and denounce them at every possible turn.”
“Either you don't eat, in which case your starvation will indeed cause you to lose weight, or you exercise to burn off fat and unwanted calories. Why is this a controversy? I actually thought it was a pretty clever ad, and a refreshingly honest reminder of why gyms are supposed to exist. None of this "celebrity workout" BS; just working to lose weight and get healthier.
Oh, right, now morbid obesity and death before 50 are things to which we're supposed to aspire.”
Genevieve Rushton-Givens on Nov 27, 2013 at 12:31:22
“I'd rather go for a walk outdoors in the beautiful snow than sweat in a boring, off-white gym with nothing interesting to look at.”
“And lung disease was once believed to be due to a lack of salt, the treatment of which would result in severe dehydration and death. The belief of vital humours influencing health resulted in countless deaths from exsanguination. Bacterial infections and putrefied abcesses were treated with a mixture of fat and cremation ashes.
All of these were beliefs of medical cures that were since debunked, yet only hysteria and similar diagnoses get trotted out as medical idiocy because it reinforces the narrative of female victimization.”
“These are incredibly honed bodies designed to excel at their chosen sports. In addition, the majority of them are incredibly attractive, which is a side effect of being in great health. Why, then, are movements such as "Strong is the New Skinny" being railed against as abusive?”
“Filed by Nina Bahadur? But now I'm confused. Usually Nina is on a crusade against physical fitness, the articles she files supporting obesity as the best way of life to defy whatever patriarchal/societal stereotype that declares health and self-respect to be good things.
But I guess this means her understanding of health is as fractured and contradictory as of law, of discrimination, and pretty much everyone else.”
“This is just straight-up disgusting. What kind of woman - and these are mostly mothers, no less! - gets her jollies by deprecating and ridiculing other people's children, particularly those with Down Syndrome or palsies that result in physical abnormalities?
The biggest questions, though: how will they spin this to make it men's fault, and how long will it take until the first try?”
“Sizing as it stands is stupid. A five-foot-tall woman can be a size zero and still look a little meaty, while six-foot Robin Lawley wears a size 16 like a woman shorter than her would wear a size 4. Sizing doesn't take height into account, which is why tall, gorgeous women find themselves relegated to "plus-size" even when they're built like Irina Shayk.”
“I was going to comment, but the commenters on Business Insider did my job for me. To summarize: this is a bald-faced lie that looks only at median income, not hours worked. One-third of the professions are commission-based, so the more you sell the more you earn. This is consistent with the trend of women preferring to work fewer hours in order to maintain their personal lives.
In other words, the argument in this article is that women should be paid more simply because they are women, regardless of how many hours they work, yet somehow declaring that a gender is more valuable "just because" isn't sexist.”
“The executive summary has been proven false by the survey's original authors. The full report contains the actual numbers, whereas the summary is quite literally just telling the donors what they wanted to hear.”
“I'm not saying that female chefs aren't talented, or that they aren't in top restaurants. I agree that it's a cultural thing rooted in old gender norms, but the fact remains that in America businesses and publications tend to pay more attention to those who obsessively work and those people tend, for whatever reasons, to be male.”
Talia Rossellini on Nov 15, 2013 at 18:48:23
“Oh absolutely, I call it overworked macho. The less sleep and more work you do, the greater you look to most, but I think this is awful irresponsible if applied to an entire nation. The Third Metric is really the future of the U.S. Many countries are already there and have the quality of life and prosperity to show for it, but like you said, it is indeed a cultural thing rooted in old gender norms.”
“Just give this a few weeks or months. Eventually their "followers" will start siding with one over the other and creating a peer-pressure echo chamber to reinforce negative feelings. This relationship is doomed even before the moronic statement of "eight-month anniversary."”
“The most likely reason for the lack of famous female chefs is that to be a professionally recognized chef you must sacrifice much of your family and personal life in order to be working in the restaurant at all hours. As countless career surveys on this very site can attest, women tend to prefer flexible hours and are generally unwilling to sacrifice their personal lives for their careers. Therefore, most female chefs would not work often enough to gather the reputation that their slavishly-dedicated male counterparts do.”
Talia Rossellini on Nov 15, 2013 at 03:26:01
“I disagree, there are many female chefs in the United States alone, but male ones are just we are used to. In Italy, the female chef is quite common, it's what Italians are accustomed to, but in the States, especially on television, people are not accustomed to females in kitchen leadership. I think this is simply an encultured bias that Americans have. It's being chipped away. Come to Seattle, there are numerous female chefs in top restaurants!”
ekalt9 on Nov 15, 2013 at 00:31:06
“Women are generally more unable to sacrifice their personal lives for their careers. I don't have kids yet, but have a husband who is a feminist and believes in sharing duties equally - and yet I end up doing most of the housework, paying the bills, making plans - simply because he never really learned how to distract himself from his own work to consider household needs. He means well and improves constantly ... but I've tried taking a break to give him full responsibility, as he wanted, and the cat nearly killed me because her litter wasn't changed for two weeks.
Most men are not made aware of how much more there is to do. We're still working on it, but I know many men even my age (30) don't even think about this stuff. They think they can just focus on work and the rest will take care of itself. Women rarely have that luxury.”
“Uh, in the US, this "pearl of wisdom" is easily supported by the joint CDC/DOD project, the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey. Within, the domestic violence numbers show that, in heterosexual relationships, the violence levels are about 57%/43%, leaning toward a greater number of female abusers.
Moreover, men are almost exclusively the victims of restraining-order abuse (that is, getting a restraining order and then purposely approaching the person at their place of business or home and calling the police to "resolve" the situation), false rape accusation, and false accusation of domestic violence. In fact, the Violence Against Women Act has made it police procedure to presume male guilt even when the man is the one who called the police and is the only one injured.”
“Ugh. This is nothing more than an echo-chamber of so-called female empowerment. Dunham and Kaling just regurgitate stereotypes and platitudes that have existed for decades but are suddenly being trotted out like they're ingenious new concepts.
Just as "Orange is the New Black" tries to portray nearly every imprisoned woman as just being misunderstood, so do these two seem intent on taking bigotry and ideologies that, were their genders reversed, would be grounds for rioting in the streets, and rebranding it into empowerment and goodness.
You can insist the gun is filled with rainbows as often as you like; doesn't change the fact that it still won't cause an explosion of friendship when fired at someone's head.”
mwarnslei on Nov 14, 2013 at 08:34:31
“Wow. That sure was a lot to really have said nothing at all.”
“The really funny thing is, she's right - but in exactly the opposite way than her intention. The Republican party's rabid devotion to their gods of vulture capitalism - Koch, Walton, Norquist - will leave their base and most anyone other than billionaires in indentured servitude due to sky-high student loans, titanic corporate tax breaks on the backs of the middle and lower classes, food stamp fraud perpetrated by the likes of Walmart, and rabid government spending on the most unnecessary things such as our bloated "defense" budget and wiretapping Spanish civilians.
Economic dumbassery will indeed leave this country crippled, just not the kind she says will be the culprit.”
“Considering the location, I'm pretty certain this is just bigotry trying to play the victim; however, it does raise an interesting point in more metropolitan areas. It seems that society is far more accepting of abuse toward white people, as they're presumed to be "in power," as though skin color provides some nebulous link across class strata.
Until we're willing to take a stand against bigotry no matter its origin, instead of permitting certain prejudices out of some twisted sense of honor, there will always be an undercurrent of hatred and divisiveness.”
“Considering that, statistically, a man walking alone is more likely to be assaulted, molested or murdered than a woman doing the same, your first statement is simply the result of gender-baiting scare tactics. Men are subject to laws that automatically presume their guilt in nearly every situation, not to mention that in 84% (and that's ballparking low) of custody cases the woman gains majority of sole custody even in situations where her home is dangerous or she is unable to provide for the child.
Moreover, men have worse than no reproductive rights. If a man's sperm is stolen, even if a boy is raped, he is still liable to be sued for child support. Cases in California, Louisiana, Arkansas, and others support this. Children as young as 12 have been forced to pay child support to their rapists.
As for "half the legislature," women comprise 54%+ of the electorate and have for at least eight years, if not longer. If women aren't being represented, it's unjust to point the finger at men. There are 44 women-exclusive federal programs designed to support and, yes, privilege women. There are no programs solely for men.
When a women-only program or group is founded, it is lauded as a good thing. If a men-only equivalent is founded, it is inevitably picketed, sued and dissolved. This is why, despite the CDC and DoJ finding that women commit the majority of domestic violence and child abuse, there are no government-funded men's DV shelters.”
“Is it at all surprising? Computer science is dominated by ex-basement dwellers who got their expertise from questionably-legal experimentation with soft- and hardware. Education pays diddly and is increasingly dangerous. English has been hated for years, since apparently being literate is "acting superior."”
“Yes, she's beautiful. But she's also six feet tall. The entire concept of a "plus-size" model must be revamped, because a size 14 at six feet is a lot different than a size 14 at five feet. Perhaps, much like the BMI calculates weight in comparison to height, the concept of plus-size modeling should compare height to dress size.
This would also help to reduce anorexia in models (excluding the high-fashion ones, whom designers want built like wire hangers), since being tall would no longer exclude attractively-built women from modeling.”
“Um, the policies and politics -are- controlled by women. Why else is there such a massive backlash whenever a right-wing politician proposes something anti-woman? Why else is it now, under the Violence Against Women Act and the snuck-in SAVE program, legal procedure to always presume male guilt even if the man is the one who called 911 for assistance and even if he is the only one suffering injuries?
As for rights over our own bodies, don't men deserve the same protections that women do? Men have no reproductive rights, no legal say in most states as to whether to keep or abort a pregnancy for which they share responsibility. That is, in essence, taxation without representation. Though both parties made the initial choice, only one gets further decision-making privileges whilst the other must shoulder the monetary and societal burden.
Beyond that, are you really saying that until women outnumber men in the top echelons of power - for which the majority of women, as countless studies show, are unwilling to make the same sacrifices as their male counterparts, therefore demanding not equality but special privilege - the suffering of the countless innocent men on the bottom is irrelevant? You're willing to turn your nose up at millions of shattered lives, falsely imprisoned victims, and fathers who've lost their children?”
CheriMD on Nov 5, 2013 at 13:35:28
“First of all glad you recognize it as "anti-woman" and that is precisely why there is be such a massive backlash. Second- I believe in men's reproductive rights. They can control their penises and I'll control my uterus. Until you have one, sorry no control. Third- were're not talking numbers here but power, or maybe we are talking #'s. If men control the access they have the power. Regarding the willingness to sacrifice, I'm interested in that study. Perhaps the things that men are willing to sacrifice are the wrong things to sacrifice. That is what I mean about calling the shots (and the wrong shots by the way). For the most part, men and their view of what's necessary and appropriate is assinine and counterproductive. Call it "special privilege" is you wish but I call it reasonable, productive thinking. "The countless men on the bottom"?- give me a break. No one is responsible for weak men except the man himself and it's not a woman who put him there. It's the countless stronger men and women. Turning my nose up at you. Get a clue!”
“Interesting how MRAs are so hated for wanting men and women to have equal rights and responsibilities, with neither side receiving preferential treatment.
For example, why are the physical fitness requirements lower for women in the police force, firefighters, and military? Wouldn't that jeopardize not only the women but the people they want to protect, if their bodies are unfit to match their counterparts? I wouldn't want a 5'3" waif trying to drag me out of a burning building; we'd both die.”
“From someone who's actually done the research, from the CDC's National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey; the Douglas/Hines "Men's Helpseeking Experience" survey; the fact that there is only one men-only domestic-violence shelter despite the fact that domestic violence is at least 50/50 if not skewing further toward female abusers (and the Oasis center in Antelope, CA receives no government funding because it refuses to presume that its clients are abusers); I'm glad to fan-and-fave.
The echo-chamber of feminism is even worse than the radical Right, since at least Right-Wingers seem to get their most insane ideas thrown out. Feminism is the law of the land, it is the establishment. In the US' 50 largest cities - a number growing every day, women make 8-10% more at the same job because feminism continues to lie about income equality.
It always makes me laugh when feminists say women need special privileges in order to be equal, that in order for equality to be realized women must be given preferential treatment.”
CheriMD on Nov 4, 2013 at 01:23:48
“I'm not laughing at all, or fooled. Exactly where is this place where women dominate the boardrooms, the back rooms, the military, the politics and the policies. So far with all this power we wield in this fantasy society you speak of it's still not a given we can exercise basic rights over our own bodies from one year to the next”