“In case you were not paying attention NASCAR is not cheap, ever been to race? Most of my family in VA goes and guess what, they fit your profile, but have paid their dues and are all very well off thank you very much. They just enjoy and love "racin" Doing the dew and munching on cheetos! Who are you to stero type what you don't understand.
I read many here and different blogs wringing your hands and debating at dinner parties about how to change the world, because your success is not warranted because of all the suffering. Great! put down the wine bottle, sell it all off and do something real, instead of pontificating at dinner parties about how sad you you all are for being gifted and talented and refuse to be thankful, because you have convinced yourselves don't deserve any of it, because the rest of the ignorant folks need what you somehow got! and how willing you would be to give it up to make everyone equal. That is the major issue I have with the left movement, look at yourselves, it's like a pity party about your blessings and then you drown in your own pool of self persecution, for being somebody, for having achieved something, which some of you think was just a matter of luck, upbrining or social evolution! All this is nothing but a large case of arrogant PRIDE!
Why not come down a level and join reality like the rest”
damnedgentlemen on Apr 13, 2011 at 10:50:52
“If it were possible for a person to be more than 100% wrong about me, you'd be him.”
Decades and decades ago, the democrats used to be for the average working man, farmer, producer and bemoaned the eltist GOP for being educated snobs, elitist , money hungry, prone to look down on the common man for his /her lack of education, their religious beliefs and not interested in the common man...and was a stalwart protector, because the working class needed a champion to watch over their interests
Now ALL the left, including the progressive movement, do the exact opposite, they savagely attack the common man as being faithful to religion, not smart enough to think for themselves on any matters, because of their lack of education. The left now believes that fly over country are filled with hatin, guns, Jesus Freaks and are the threat. Then we see the right, while far from perfect at least understand the common man, etc.
Can anyone say role reversal of parties, has anyone on the left actually looked in the mirror and seen the hypocrisy? It seems the progressives are at least trying to look in the mirror. They seem to be understanding the 2 part system and especially the dems are just as evil, corrupt and power hungry as the GOP. One thing I would suggest to the left, is stop trying to flaunt how smart you are. I know many smart people that never went to college, some of you all are educated beyond your means!”
BethlehemCitizen on Apr 13, 2011 at 12:09:37
“The GOP is still for the RICH. They've just clothed themselves in the Flag, the cross, a gun and holster, and a pick-up truck. They've hoodwinked the middle and low-middle class into thinking that all those tax cuts are actually going to the middle-lower-middle classes when in actuality, only the rich benefit. Look at the "death tax" argument as an example. Only a few thousand families in the US even have enough money to have to pay the estate tax. (That's the 1% of the country that owns over 50% of the US.) Why would a truck driver in the midwest give a hoot about that tax?....ah, right, because the Republications said it was a "death tax" and "taxing is bad."”
“Oh ye of little faith and leaning on your own understanding....”
conscioushope on Apr 1, 2011 at 14:32:12
“Oh, ye of little reason........all we can do is "pray" for you, I guess.”
deanrd7 on Apr 1, 2011 at 14:00:40
“Oh ye who cannot think for themselves yet think they know it all”
Don Alex on Apr 1, 2011 at 13:48:30
“"Oh ye of little faith and leaning on your own understanding... "
Meaning, we should blindly believe the myths of the Bible ("faith"), and dont bother trying to verify whether they had any basis in actual reality. No human being ever lived to 1000 years, fact. There was no exodus of 500000 people from Egypt around 1200 BC, and certainly no 40 year exile in any desert by them, because surely such an event would have left SOME sort of archaelogical evidence behind, and instead there is absolutely NONE, fact. There was no apocalyptic worldwide flood around 2500 BC since many verified civilizations existed at the time around the world, and continued to exist afterwards, fact. The Israelis were actually disaffected Canaanites who went into the hills of Palestine to create their own culture and history out of whole cloth and that became your Old Testament, fact. And the world was not created in 4000 BC with the birth of Adam and Eve, fact. See, in order to believe the bible's stories, you have to believe that it happened on those dates, otherwise the biblical geneological chronology isnt worth the paper its printed on. Very few Christians have ever bothered to research that far into the subject, preferring to hide behind their blind "faith" that it's true, lest their bubble of fantasy burst and bring their fantasies crashing down to earthly reality. Fact.”
theiFyoU on Apr 1, 2011 at 13:22:11
“Better than leaning on yours.............whatever it may be...........”
The beauty coming out of the crisis in Japan is watching how the common people are orderly, not selfish, not looting, sharing and caring for each other, willing to sacrifice individual needs for the greater cause, not casting blame, and having faith...WHICH for the record, are the qualities of a loving and merciful God.
Over here during the hurricanes, we had looting, selfishness, desperation, fear, worry and then blame!”
“The Pasor who told us Jesus was coming back on 5/21/2011 at around 6pm, does great dis-service to ALL Christians who do believe Jesus is coming back. All we can do for this poor man is pray for him.
For it is written:
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
While I will not judge any self procliamed believers salvation or motivation, it is wise for believers to take such declarations and simply pray for people like the Pastor that made this prediction. believers need to always take the Word of God over the Word of Man, when a declaration /predicition like this is made and as we can see above, even Jesus himself does not know the date or hour.”
Protocolor on Apr 1, 2011 at 11:35:36
“"even Jesus himself does not know the date or hour"
So much for omniscience...”
Protocolor on Apr 1, 2011 at 11:31:13
“6pm? Ridiculous! We all know that Jesus takes advantage of happy hour (and saves!)... we shouldn't expect Him `til at least midnight.”
Publius67 on Apr 1, 2011 at 11:31:03
“Yes! Pretty much everywhere that Jesus is quoted on the matter, it is clear that it is going to be a Big Surprise.
There is also the quibble about if Jesus was ever actually speaking personally or about the possibly-seperate "Son of Man", coming as God's "cosmic judge" as Ehrman calls it, as well as that the one point of Jesus' message is to live as if the Kingdom were already here.”
“Is it any different with anything else in life, Do you not see the danger in putting faith in another man's words, merely because he says, "Science, technology and higher intelligence is THE answer, I swear." and then attempts to persecute anyone else that does not confrom to his or her own ideals...Secular humanists and Christians alike share this bad habit...
Which Ironically is making themselves to be a God unto their own self, because their pride begins to build. I just have to be right on this point.
This is where certain Christians have really hurt people and where secularists often fall down.
Because people place faith in MAN alone and that is why we fail, both secularists and certain christians are too busy shouting at each other to notice.”
I am not setting myself higher than anyone, nor did I say that, the Word of God said that those with the spirit could only discern, I simply pasted a passage of God's Word. Seems to me you are asking WHO is GOD to say that, because those words were his not mine.”
“I did not attack anyone StevenM, I merely pointed out a serious truth. Here is another truth, which will no doubt make you state I am attacking something/someone
II Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”
StevenM on Mar 30, 2011 at 13:06:30
“The New English Bible translates that passage as: "Every inspired scripture has its use for teaching and refuting error ..." (2 Timothy 3:16), which would seem to imply that not all scripture is inspired. The problem is that the Greek word for "is" is missing in the Greek text of 2 Timothy 3:16. Your translation puts in an "is" up front so to say: "All scripture is given by inspiration ..." In addition, the Greek word here being translated as "scripture" is just the basic Greek term for any writing. Of course, even the English term "scripture" has the basic meaning of "writing," being derived from the Latin term "scriptura" meaning "writing." Thus one could translate 2 Timothy 3:16 as: "Every writing, both inspired and useful, is for teaching ..." etc.
Furthermore, if one interprets this passage in its context, it is clear from 2 Timothy that the scripture/writings being referred to were those that Timothy read as a child (verse 15), and thus they could not include the New Testament, which didn't exist at that time. It also doesn't tell us which writing Timothy read as a child. Did Timothy read Tobit or Judith, or did he read other works which were circulating as scripture at that time but never got into any canonical Bible? There is nothing in the verse you cited which would indicate which writings this author considered to be inspired, or what inspired meant.”
Ed Carroll on Mar 30, 2011 at 13:02:43
“Question: how do you know the difference between scripture inspired by god and plain old writings of men that they claim god told them? You see the danger, don't you? You choose to believe the words of men because they added a sentence that says "God inspired me to write this." But how do you know they aren't just mortal men writing stories? How do you know it's inspired? By faith, right? But how do you tell the difference yourself?”
conscioushope on Mar 30, 2011 at 12:57:20
“You, however, set yourself up higher than anyone...even your God....by stating that those with the spirit could discern. Who are you to say that?”
Rjc34 on Mar 30, 2011 at 12:43:27
“You're quoting the bible to prove that the bible is inspired by God? If that isn't circular reasoning I don't know what is...”
Before the Apostle Paul beceoma Paul he was named Saul, he was a trained Pharisee of the Jewish Synagogue, he was known as the Chief Persecuter of those that believed and wlaked with Jesus. Saul before Paul did not believe in Jesus, he was taught to adhere to the old Jewish Law and Covenant. In fact, he was present and condoned the stoning of Stephen.”
ethandavid on Mar 30, 2011 at 10:33:08
“I apologize if I was unclear. I was referring to Bob Rousseau's implied claim that the Bible was written by people uniquely ignorant for their times. Geocentrism wasn't unique to Jews and Christians. There were few people at the time that didn't believe that the Earth was the center of the Universe.”
“I Cor 2 :9-13
9 However, as it is written:
“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived
the things God has prepared for those who love him—
10 these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
I think this passage speaks volumes about so called "theologians", "religious experts" today.”
gutteringdawn on Mar 30, 2011 at 22:02:37
“One of the fascinating things about the Bible is how often and how vehemently it talks about how ignorant humans are of God and the universe. The unsatisfying conclusion to the book of Job is my personal favorite example of this.
Essentially Job says "why are you doing this to me?" God is doing it, so the story goes, on a bet with the devil to see if Job's love for God will fail. It's an easy explanation and God could have just told him that since he was sitting there shooting the breeze with Job. But instead he gets angry (which he seems to do a lot in the good old O.T.) and brags that Job is just an ignorant human whereas he, God that is, made Leviathan and the universe and, you know, all that, so Job has no chance of ever understanding him.
So God made man in his image, but just too mentally deficient to understand reality.”
conscioushope on Mar 30, 2011 at 12:56:01
“So, is anyone disagreeing with you lacking the "spirit"?”
omprem on Mar 30, 2011 at 11:07:32
“It also speak volumes about the atheists inhabiting this thread. They all depend on sense data as evidence of anything. They do not understand wisdom obtained by other means.
But this short-sightedness is not confined to atheists or theologians. Those who know what no eye has seen or no ear has heard are labeling mystics and then denigrated. The mystic Sufis are condemned by tribal, conservative Muslims. Contemplative Christians are denigrated by Fundamentalist/Literalists.
The condemnation is a fear reaction. Literalists and Atheists are fearful that they are unable to know others know and so to avoid having question their world view and/or feel ignorant and powerless they attack contemplative practices.”
StevenM on Mar 30, 2011 at 10:52:09
“It is a common rhetorical trick to claim that anyone who disagrees with your point of view is merely lacking the true spirit of God. Quoting such a passage and claiming that it speaks volumes about theologians and biblical scholars doesn't really tell us so much about them as it tells us something about yourself. You seem to feel the need to attack those who express opinions different from your own, but you seem to lack any arguments which would support your point of view.”
how nice to live in your world...you do understand that Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick were both at the helm of Fannie/freddie and both cashed out rather nicely and both are bleeding heart progressive libs laughing their butts off at you all the way to the bank....do some fact checking and understand how bad fannie/freddie were ran and by whom before you vomit out the Matthews/maddow /Olbermann talking points...
until libs/pro's come to terms with the fact that the new hip democratic party is just the same and in some instances worse than the GOP filth nothing will ever change....”
“One can attribute the destruction of our industrial period to stringent EPA/OSAH standards
Now to be clear, in the 70's strict EPA and OSHA standards were needed because of the rampant amount of industrial accidents and amount of raw pollution being dumped.
Now days, we have refused to invest in technology that keeps pollution at a minimum...the manufacturing base skipped the country not because of GOP/CON policies, but rather the ease of OSHA and EPA standards in China, Mexico, Indonesia, etc that and the amount of cheaper labor.
we demand the lowest price, to heck with quality, we want cheap cheap cheap....so to provide cheap we shop at WMT and allow them to further destroy our nation, by wrining our the lowest cost always...we are a disposable consuming nation of SHEEP!
you want manufacturing back, then demand the US force every other nation like China and Mexico to enact the very same OSHA/EPA standards we have, force them tp pay their workers a livable wage!
to say the GOP is the ONLY cause of an eroding manufacturing base is tom foolery...
We ALL need to stop being consumers and start being producers....that coupled with silly political ideaology on both sides is what has destroyed us all...I challenge any lib/pro or con to name me one thing ,besides auto's and agriculture that the US produces that is of tangible and real value....”
ExJxS on Sep 3, 2010 at 15:08:24
Lower OSHA and EPA standards – What?! That wouldn’t bring production back to the US, it would just result in more pollution and worker injuries from the remaining industries. Cost of production will still be cheaper in 3rd world countries.
Force other nations to adopt our standards – How? Tariffs on goods produced outside of the US, maybe? Subsidies for goods made in the US? Perhaps a combination? This will not fly as long as private industry has a stranglehold on politicians. What’s the good of closing the American plant and shipping production to China if it’s going to cost money to sell it to Americans?
Stop buying cheap goods produced in other countries – Great idea. Here’s the problem: Most Americans can’t afford to. 98% of us have seen our earnings devalued in the last 30 years.
OSHA and the EPA aren’t the problem. They’re good things. Deregulation of industry is the problem.”
ExJxS on Sep 3, 2010 at 15:07:57
“There’s a mix of things in there that I agree with, but then you jump the curb.
EPA and OSHA needed – Good. I’m on board with that. Private industry wasn’t regulating itself. But then, when has it ever?
Refusal to invest in technology to keep pollution down – Huge problem. But not one of government. Private industry controls energy production and the C/B/A says that retooling to create energy in a new, cleaner way, costs more than protecting their slice of the pie. Mysteriously, new energy tech is predicted and prototyped, but never goes into production. It just disappears.
Outsourcing of jobs – Probably the biggest threat to our economy. No argument there. Exploiting workers in poor countries is bad for them and worse for us.
Americans a consumption obsessed people – Too true. Wasteful, too.”
“Probably for the same reasone why it is so convenient for other "more progressive" people to ignore the words FREEDOM OF RELIGION in the title and body of the 1st Amendment and proclaim the 1st Amendment is FREEDOM OF SPEECH”
CessnaDriver on Jul 15, 2010 at 17:46:52
“I don't know anyone who ignores the "freedom of religion" clause of the 1st Amendment other than those who falsely claim that America is a "Christian" country.
Further, those who argue that freedom of religion is also freedom FROM religion are not ignoring "freedom of religion".
You fail in every way. Are you in a contest or something?”
“actually they are sitting on the cash, because taxes are getting ready to go through the roof. Have you ever created a job in your life? ever actually ran soemthing other than your mouth?
If you have you will then understand added taxes and manadatory health care costs erase a FTE...lower taxes create an FTE...
YOu obviously ahve no clue about Star Trek either.....if any of you progressives truly understand the prime directive you would haul Star Fleet into court and sue them for being racist neocons....”
txnmiddle on Jul 15, 2010 at 17:01:28
“The taxes go through the roof in partly because the folks who make the most money have made it a point not to contribute to the nation's needs in proportion to their earnings - I refer to the cut off on Soc Sec contributions, of course. Next, what is not mentioned by big business is what percentage of their revenues are generated by non-internal investments - that is, use of their Treasuries to make investments in the various markets. I would suggest that the success or failure of these investments have a larger impact on hiring and firing than inccreasing costs of doing business...thoughts?”
muziker on Jul 15, 2010 at 16:41:32
“And you, highwayman, need to open the Good Book and read Mark 12:30-31 and heed the teaching of Jesus. The verse is a simple statement of logic - if you can see beyond your balance sheet.”
fuelie on Jul 15, 2010 at 16:39:43
“Show me where it states that taxes are ready to go through the roof. Do you have a crystal ball?
The only people running their mouths are members of the GOP, especially, Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, McConnell, and Boehner.”
“Actually Bush did soemthing during 9/11, he started stimulus handouts, which is forgotten by many of the main stream cons like hannity and limbaugh...it is also forgotten by many progressives/liberals....
once the markets opened after 9/11 the DOW took a major crap, what did Bushie do...bailed out the airlines, bailed out the consumer, bailed out everyone...and the DEMs in congress applauded that move...
“actually, we need to force other nations to adopt our OSHA and EPA laws, if other countries were held to the same standard as we hold oursleves, you might be suprised how many jobs would come back....
the sad fact is that we are a nation that is a service economy, we service the things manufactured over seas....”
“Peter Schiff was ignored during 2006 by both sides of the aisle, Schiff called the crisis before anyone...in fact people that know schiff, knew he was talking a crisis as far back as 2003.
Schiff understand's the real deal and how to get us out....there are many more Peter Schiff's out there that are not political , but understand the economy....and how it works and how it should be fixed”
mojo1514 on Jul 15, 2010 at 13:43:59
“Unbelievable how so many still ridicule and laugh at the ones who were telling the truth.”