“HUFF POST, With respect, rather than simply functioning in a manner that, in effect, impotently incites those who have empathy for others and who carry in their hearts a determination that justice be done, provide sufficient info so that those of us that would want to sign "...the petition..." might do so. If an injustice may indeed have been done, publicizing such in a way that makes it difficult for the reader to respond with reasoned concern manifest in a form that might ultimately provide for corrective behavior on the part of the 'officers', respects neither HUFF POST'S perceived moral obligations nor those of it's most sentient readers. Nor in this case, does it assist the victim's sister as she bravely strives to right a wrong.”
“The so-called 'thin blue line' is still very much with us. It negatively impacts on the quality, the basic character of officer/citizen interface every day in every city across the country. Video cameras, cell phone cameras are now providing but a disturbing glimpse at what's been and will continue to be a corrupt culture within law enforcement. If police chiefs were truly representing the citizenry/the community, (which is actually their job), they'd react quite differently to conspicuous disregard and outright abuse of the public and heads would roll, but they, like their charges, do not see themselves as representing us, let alone serving and protecting us, so they cover up the abuse committed by their officers and when it is spotlighted, then in flagrant fashion, the chiefs make specious excuses for the officers that have been caught in the act. Police forces literally do not respect their employer, (you and I). This has become so entrenched that even citizen's watchdog committees and in some cases, like Seattle, the DOJ can barely produce any tangible reform.”
BrenJun on Aug 27, 2013 at 15:02:55
“Yes. You hit the nail on the head. Their job is to serve and protect, but it seems so often that their doing the opposite. It's actually quite scary. F&F”
babyjesussaysso on Aug 27, 2013 at 14:25:51
“100% agree, le is completely out of control in this country. f&f”
“Amazing that nobody else has called you out on your blatantly obvious demonstration of lack of coherent thought! Did you actually read the story? Esp. the part about the images and data Mr. Lustutter then presented, ".....which at the time were publicly available and weren't obtained by hacking". Either you are a ticked off member of the Ohio high school football team or.... very recent to this planet and how things actually work here or..... you are the apt personification of naivety and illogic. To quote you, "We have courts and law enforcement agencies to protect us". Really? Maybe take a good, hard look at the strongly correlative data per convictions and also per length of sentences as tied to socioeconomic strata, (I.E., How it is that one can predictably buy justice.... if they can afford it), then come back to this site and apologize for such conspicuous ignorance of how 'our' system of justice supposedly functions. (hint: It's not just! It responds quite positively to those with money and power, negatively to those that don't. A truth so apparent that most third graders could tell you). Every time I read a current story on the 'net and then venture to read the attendant posts, I am reminded how many people out there in cyberland do not practice critical thinking. Oh and as to your reference to Will Penn; cast the first stone, DCGeorge76, cast the first stone.”
DCGeorge76 on Jun 9, 2013 at 22:03:34
“"As flawed as they are I trust them far more than I trust the unappointed and unregulated judgement of Joe Citizen."
I suppose if you want to cherry pick my quotes you can make whatever argument you wish. Clearly I wasn't arguing our justice system isn't without shortcomings so the rest of your rhetoric is moot.
If pointing out that the disposition of an Ohio rape case has no baring on an unrelated federal investigation, or that mob rule and vigilantism are assaults on a free and civilized democracy, is casting the first stone then so be it.”
DCGeorge76 on Jun 9, 2013 at 21:44:14
“Perhaps you would benefit from rereading a few key points from the article.
-"FBI was interested in seizing any evidence relating to the hack of the fan page for Steubenville High School's "Big Red" football team, RollRedRoll.com, and the site administrator's email, both of which were hacked in December of last year."
-"threatening to release social security numbers and other personal information of Steubenville football players unless they apologized to the rape victim"
-"Lostutter told Mother Jones that he was the one in the video."
-"he admitted that he had approached "a lot of people daily" about different hacktivist "operations."
-"The FBI's search warrant for Lostutter's home states that he may have committed federal crimes such as "computer crimes" and "aggravated identity theft," as well as "identity theft, attempt and conspiracy."
By his own admission he's guilty of at least half of these crimes. Nowhere does it say he's being charged or investigated for displaying the images or data from the social media sites. Unless of course you're suggesting they had their SSN's posted on Facebook and Twitter. I may be naive but "illogic" is not one of my faults.”
“The so-called 'thin blue line' is still very much with us and it profoundly, negatively impacts on the quality, the basic character of officer/citizen interface every day in every city across the country. Video cameras and cell phone cameras are now providing but a minimal glimpse at what has been and continues to be a corrupt culture within law enforcement. If chiefs of police were truly representing the citizenry/the community, (which is actually their job), they would react quite differently to such conspicuous disregard and outright abuse of the public as now is all too often depicted in inarguably apparent form... and officer's heads would roll. But the chiefs, just like their charges, do not really see themselves as representing us, let alone serving and protecting us, resultingly they cover up the abuse committed by their officers and when it is spotlighted, then in flagrantly revealing fashion, the chiefs make specious excuses for the offending officers that've clearly been caught in the act. It has come to this-- Police forces literally do not respect their employer, (you and I). Their 'us vs. them' vocational culture has become so entrenched that even citizen's watchdog committees and in some cases, like recently in Seattle, a full-on Justice Dept. investigation barely produce a smidgen of tangible reform, if any at all. BTW: I'm an Alaskan male and view these two 'officers of the law' as puffed up phonies that probably wear panties when off duty. Gary Engen”
GrammaTina on May 7, 2013 at 20:30:09
“F&F from a fellow Alaskan (slightly south of Kodiak).”
“First off, I fully agree with you re. this prisoner, (judging by their off the wall comments, most of the posters clearly didn't bother to read the story). Second, I never said nor implied that "armed robbery" or "white collar crime" or "financial fraud" is without victims nor did I so equate. If you knew the stats on Federal Penitentiaries, (that is what I was referring to), you"d know that the majority of the persons so incarcerated are there for 'drug related offenses'. BTW: I personally brought down a big, bad white collar criminal who had been foolish enough to steal from me and several others, (all told, he ripped $134 million from us 'victims') and in that it occurred pre-Madoff, he didn't get the same sentence that Bernie got, but nonetheless it was, to that point in time, the longest sentence given in a federal court for financial fraud in US history. How many people are incarcerated for drug related offenses? - Stephannie Behrens - Open Salon Feature: Drug War Prisoner Count Over Half a Million, US Prison Population at All-Time High”
“Lots of cold-hearted, sarcastic commenters here who are obviously callous and wholly disinterested in whatever the truth be. Prisons are terrible places. Such flippant, ignorant clowns wouldn't last long in a large pen. 2/3 of the people behind bars in the US are there for victimless crimes. The lesser fraction of inmates, the actually violent, anti-social types, routinely abuse and sometimes murder the non-violent. Wrongfully charged, locked up for a crime I did not commit. I faced a ten year sentence. It was I, not the corrupt prosecutor that proved my innocence. I'm no criminal, but quickly learned the public finds it convenient to scapegoat the imprisoned, presuming that they're all guilty and any claims, no matter how well supported that someone is innocent, typically fall on deaf ears. Our incarceration rate is illogical. In fact, it's the highest in the world. Of the 221 countries monitored, at 716 per capita, we're number one. Sampling of rational per capita rates: Germany 83, Sweden 70, India 30, etc. Once our prisons went 'for profit' and propaganda by such corporate interests claiming longer sentences would reduce crime was artfully spread to the fearful populace, the percentage of our citizens sentenced to jail skyrocketed.
The Facts about American Prisons - Reason.com
What does the U.S. have in common with South Sudan and Somalia? http://online.sfsu.edu/rapidviz/523_infodesign_posters/523_prison_population_brie_burnham.pdf”
bree zee on Mar 16, 2013 at 14:18:17
“if you don't like prison, don't commit a crime. Victimless or not, you break the law, you go to prison. That's the rule of our society and you can't tell me that everyone in prison doesn't know it before they CHOOSE to commit a crime.
I don't know your story and if the basic info you gave is true, then I'm sorry for what you had to go through. But I do believe your situation is rare. Does it happen? Sadly, yes. I wouldn't want to be in those shoes either. But for the overwhelming majority of people in prison I have little sympathy. Prisons should be places people are afraid to go. Is there a better way than prison? Maybe. Find it and I'll support any reasonable changes.”
daryldad on Mar 16, 2013 at 09:13:53
“Prisons are big business, food contracts, expensive phone service, canteens, laundry and special clothes. Private prisons will only run while they are profitable, i believe. When they aren't profitable contracts to run them won't be renewed and more prisoners will get early release. Also, why are we housing illegal aliens when they could be sent back to their home country, saving the US money.
I met a woman who said her husband had a high position in a federal prison and he had alcohol problems so his fellow employees would cover for him and encouraged him to go into retirement.
Also look at how many lawyers are paid by this system .Sorry to ramble, JMHO. Thanks.”
Bruce Richer on Mar 16, 2013 at 01:42:41
“if you can't do the time, don't do the crime..................prisons should be pure punishment and this bozo after armed robbery, should be beaten daily”
dustyarain on Mar 15, 2013 at 23:04:38
“The only truly victimless crime, is actually drug possession. Such as those put away for using pot. To say someone put away for armed robbery is a victimless crime, is insane. You can't equate a white collar crime as victimless either. Finance fraud, sure seems victimless doesn't it? But all of the people that depended on that money, they're a victim. To say 2 out of 3 were sentenced for victimless crime is a joke.
On the other hand, for this man, yes, he admits when he's deserved it. In this situation, he's saying he didn't. And it's quite easy to see whether or not he DID deserve it. All the prison would need to do is look at the logbook themselves. And discipline the guards on duty for failure to comply with regulations. To have them even deny that, actually adds credence to his story, and in fact shows the prison was wrong. The reason they're carrying it to this extreme, The prison that is. Is most likely a financial choice. They expected him to crack, he didn't. So far they can be found for damages for putting him in solitary when he did nothing to earn such a sanction. It'll be worse for them in the long run for him to die and be charged for wrongful death from inaction. Because it IS willful inaction on their part to simply show a neutral party under seal the truth one way or the other.”
“There is so much that I could say, but alas, you would understand little to none of it, (a hint/elucidatingly directive verbiage from the wildly contradictory book that you no doubt claim to understand, "Do not caste your pearls before swine"). So instead I will simply state the blatantly obvious-- your circuitous illogic is a conspicuous example of how it is that reason and religion cannot harmoniously co-exist in the same brain. At it's center, your 'thinking' reveals why conservatives are anti-science, indeed, anti-intellectual. So, upon reflection, I suppose, all in all it is better for humanity, as the more gifted in rationally processing thought impressively propel down the freeway to a better, more positive future/strive for substantive improvement of mankind that the clown car definable segment that is comically characterized by the idiotic attitudinal stance of your particular ilk.... not embrace substantial life extension.... and simply pull over to the proverbial curb and quit the race. Gary”
icwhite02 on Nov 20, 2012 at 03:58:29
“B) My first son was born 11 years later to the day! On 7/4/82! Scientific "coincidence" or a "Hello, I told you so!" from God?
Everything I was told while on the other side either by Jesus or my 2 grandfathers has come true, including the births of my 4 children, even after I was told I couldn't have children because of an infection caused by Toxic Shock Syndrome at the age of 14!
I am not a conservative, they tell me my experience was just a "hallucination" sent by SATAN to confuse me because people won't go to Heaven until AFTER Armageddon. Other Christians say there is NO SOUL! Imagine that! I say if there is no soul that survives the death of the body, then what are God & Satan FIGHTING OVER?
Jehovah is the ULTIMATE scientist! The earth is not under 10,000 years old, it is slightly older than scientists THINK it is and you ARE NOT smarter than me simply because you have had no spiritual experiences & do not believe in a HIGHER POWER. And your opinion of me will not cause me to "quit the human race." Please explain the LOGIC behind your psychological need to insult & condemn someone else for beliefs & experiences that differ from yours? I can see why you are alone, & you spelled "Theloner" wrong.”
icwhite02 on Nov 20, 2012 at 03:53:34
“A) Don't assume what I would & would not be able to understand. That wildly contradictory book is no more crazy or wildly contradictory than the world we live in TODAY! Just because I believe something that YOU don't, does NOT mean that I AM the one who doesn't understand things. I drowned when I was 8 years old & had an after death experience during which I crossed over to the other side, met relatives & ancestors (some dead a hundred years or more) I had never known in life; was told the order of other family members who were next to pass on; & I was told I had to go back because I had 4 children I needed to give birth to. I was told the order & the gender of my children by Jesus Christ to convince me to come back because I was running out of time to come back because I didn't WANT to come back. I was dead for 15 minutes while they worked on me & then called it & covered me up & I came back when they were putting me in the ambulance. My mother was 8 months pregnant & I told her her dad had told me the baby was a boy. This was the 4th of July, my brother Tommy was born on July 31st! This was in 1971 when there was no way to determine the sex of a child before it was born without having an”
“Hey! Are we related? After 20 years, retired residential portion of business and moved on to another project, but was "The Loan ar'Ranger" back in the day. (email@example.com) I had to add the 's' years ago 'cause Steve Case had an online brokerage too. Gary aka/theloaner HiHo Silver!”
“The so-called 'thin blue line' is still very much with us and it profoundly, negatively impacts on the quality, the basic character of officer/citizen interface every day in every city across the country. Video cameras, cell phone cameras are now providing but a minimal glimpse at what has been and will continue to be a corrupt culture within law enforcement. If they were truly representing the citizenry/the community, (which is actually their job), police chiefs would react quite differently to such conspicuous disregard and outright abuse of the public and heads would roll, but they, like their charges, in fact do not see themselves as representing us, let alone serving and protecting us, so they cover up the abuse committed by their officers and when it is spotlighted, then in flagrant fashion, the chiefs make specious excuses for the offending officers that have been caught in the act. Police forces literally do not respect their employer, (you and I). This has become so entrenched that even citizen's watchdog committees and in some cases, like Seattle, a Justice Dept. investigation barely produce any tangible reform.”
“Your observation is astute and articulately worded/concise. I agree what you suggest was generally the genesis of taxation in this country. Having said that, as we both know, over time the wealthy and their manipulative, soulless tax attorneys have, via 'contributions' to GOP politicians, so misdirected the original, laudable intent as to leave us with a 'tax code' that is conspicuously skewed to benefit the rich, (ex: 30 of the largest corporations in the US paid no taxes at all last year). Our tax code not only gives tax benefits for off-shoring jobs, it even rewards manufacturers for physically moving plants offshore as well. Corporations have no patriotism to anyone or any place and now, thanks to the Citizens United ruling, they, (including so-called 'foreign corporate entities'), can buy any politician that they want...and they are doing it. Speaking of 'original purpose', human beings banded together for benefit of community. That is/was the real reason for a government in the first place- to in effect, assure the health and welfare of those so voluntarily assembled. Jefferson warned us, Eisenhower warned us, etc, that the particularly American form of government was vulnerable to co-opting by the moneyed elite, but we didn't listen. Gary Engen”
“So true. If one bothers to look objectively at the 'Biblical' transition from the ".. hateful and angry.." god of the Old Testament to the loving, forgiving god of the New Testament, it would become apparent that yet another religion, in response to the sociodynamics historically in play over time, found it advantageous to pen a dramatic course correction so as to keep it's members onboard. Christ himself embodied, personified and clearly captained that course correction.
I.E., Old Testament-- 'an eye for an eye', 'smite the nonbelievers', etc. The New Testament-- 'turn the other cheek', love thine enemy', etc. Scholars acknowledge the Old Testament is really not a 'Christian' document, not in tone and not in... spirit. (It was a Jewish compilation) However, today we see conspicuously intolerant so-called Christian rightwingers in 'Christian' church pews each Sunday as they readily accept and absorb the hate-filled political rants of pulpit politicians that find it expedient to primarily quote from the Old testament, not the New as such 'preachers of the word' foment angst into a political movement that is prophetically destined to disbenefit it's participants.
Just as hate mongering and scapegoating is repeatedly preached in the Old Testament, it is absent in the New Testament. Jesus Christ neither acted nor counseled others to act the way that today's highly politicized evangelical 'Christians' act. Jesus taught that the very 'heart' of his message was that love, not hate, is the way. Gary Engen”
“For starters, he didn't pull them out of his backside or from Faux News.
Individuals that haven't been propagandized by right-wing media, but source out data directly, recognize your ideologically-based comments as ignorant and factless, (I've always said it's a good idea to have the information before you decide what you think about a subject, but rednecks don't bother with logical processing of thought, for if they did, they'd no longer be rednecks).
All other industrial nations have some sort of single payer healthcare system, (what you call "socialized" medicine) and those countries have substantially better healthcare outcomes. Documented as better. Don't believe me? How about The Center for Disease Control? The World Health Organization? No? Well then, how about the CIA? Or are they leftys too? Inarguably the clearest indice of quality of a country's healthcare delivery system is it's average lifespan. On CIA website, see how the US compares to other countries when it comes to such revealing stats. Per resultant feature of the insurance industry middleman so firmly wedged into our system, we pay between 200% and 450% more in toto for our current healthcare. Bean counters parasitically determine what we receive from said system, so we're ranked 51. You'd be embarrassed if you realized how groundless your argument really is. Respond and I'll throw some more facts at you.Get ready to duck or put your Faux News blinders back on. Gary Engen”
“T's a puzzling sociodynamic that most people/sheeple if shown the light of day truth of a matter that by it's nature is disruptively challenging to their preconceived notions they then somehow find it quieting to shrink back into the deep, dank shadows of self-imposed ignorance and wait for officialdom/the authorities to confirm what is and what isn't.
If instead of waiting for others to maybe someday give you permission to take a bite out of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, you've an insatiable appetite for truth, brave digesting a book by former Pentagoner, Colonel Philip Corso, "The Day After Roswell".
Corso was tasked with surreptitiously moving reversed engineered alien technologies into US-based corporations. In his book, he detailed the momentous mission. Once it was published.. he died. Corso held such responsible positions as member of Pres. Eisenhower's National Security Council and later, head of the Foreign Technology Desk, U.S. Army Research & Development Dept. While he was entrusted with running the Pentagon's Technology, a Lt. General Trudeau gave him the mission to secretly seed the technologies to US industries. Of course effort was made by debunkers to discredit the book and Colonel Corso. But no Forrest Gump was Philip Corso. His career, filled with documented, remarkably influential positions, repeatedly shows him intimately involved in historic events of global proportion for decades. Chewing away in broad daylight, Gary Engen. DAY AFTER ROSWELL
Philip J. Corso - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia”
“MillieOhSillyLou, alas, if you only knew, more than a few like you comprise the dimwitted portion of the populace that simply accepts disparaging propaganda as fact so long as it panders to preconceived prejudice, (and when re. this President, as shameful as it'ss telling, that prejudice contains a significant element of racism). Of course such historically documented tidbits I'm about to convey will be conveniently ignored through process of 'selective perception', (I.E., "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind's already made up!"), but nonetheless, here's some pesky facts for ya-- Every President since Eisenhower has used a TelePrompTer. Intellectually challenged, in spite of it's displaying the words of speeches prewritten by others for him, George W. while nervously starring at his prompter, still couldn't avoid truly idiotic malapropisms, (and when absent a TelePrompTer, such as on 9/11, he just sat there, dumbfounded) Then as to your baseless implication that our current President would be at a loss without a prompter in front of him, anyone that's bothered to listen to his 'no script' discussions with various interviewers per media has witnessed Obama is a wordsmith of considerable note, (you don't become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review if you're inarticulate). Then to the factually underpinned counterclaim that President Obama waxes eloquently; don't take my word for it, lots of Republican office holders and media pundits, (even on FAUX News), oft lament his abilities per the spoken word. (I.E. check Perry's, Rove's, etc comments)”
“As we all carry a responsibility to convey thought of some import when we post, I am tired of factless, ignorant, presumptive commentators who, conspicuously short of any sort of supportive documentation, can do no more than shoot their mouths off in sophomoric sarcastic fashion. Speaking as someone with a degree in psychology, I would offer that the process of judgment should always suffer a rational base. This is difficult for those taxed by self-induced anxious thought as same is denied edifying externally available stimuli, (I.E., 'cause your head is firmly stuck in the sand), for such hinders effective synaptual exchange whereby accurate deducements might otherwise be made. Your flippant, dismissive attitudinal stance is unwarranted and childlike in it's blind faith. Our government has experimented on thousands of human beings without their consent and without their knowledge. Study up before you arrogantly wave potentialities aside. Start with published findings from such as the Church Committee, US Congress.”
“Though poster "fujeboi" appears to have gone a bit 'overboard' in his assumptions, dismissing that the CIA or NSA would be attracted to use such closed, defined and easily-monitored-for-effects subset population as passengers on a cruise ship for experimentation, is naive. The timeframe for the epidemic outbreak of 'flu' on the ref'd ship is suspiciously rapid. At best it points to a more likely source that's less acceptable to the company- tainted food, (20% of US pop. contract it each year). Then again, it may have been a secret governmental experiment, (these so-called 'outbreaks' of Norwalk virus, etc on cruise ships used to be very rare, but now such 'mysterious' events are evermore frequent). See sample links for related, disturbing info re. behavior of our own government.
A History Of US Secret Human Experimentation
Project MKULTRA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
“CIA keeps testing drugs on people” – American author — RT
Jonestown Was an Illuminati MK-Ultra Experiment”
“2/3 is indeed on sea floor today and yes, 'authorities' know. An Obama supporter, (lesser of two evils), I was upset he appointed Chu as Secretary of Energy- http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2010/05/steven-chus-ties-bp
BP was contributor to Obama (to rednecks- all presidential candidates accept funds from big oil. G. H. W., 'Dubya' who waged war to pull Iraqi oil off line to affect supply/demand ratio of world oil. International crude ramped $8 a barrel to $130. Not coincidentally Dubya inducement Cheney to 'grease the skids'/prepare false documentation for war. From CEO of Halliburton to VP of US, he later gained governmental approval for massive 'no bid' contracts to Halliburton while still large stockholder. I came up with technology to remove oil from sea floor, but stopped by 'the powers that be', (in part, the DOE, but mostly by Mississippi Gov. Barbour. BP didn't want the public to realize the oil was still there polluting the Gulf's ecosystem, used Barbour). BP now works with the company I brought my concept to (they ripped me). BP uses the tech only to address current surface spills. Tea Party quietly instigated/financed by the infamous Koch brothers, handling of the Gulf spill, greed-based manipulations behind war in Iraq are recent examples of how most Americans have been so adeptly herded by corrupt energy interests as to, in lockstep, sleep walk closer and closer to the edge of the cliff. Gary theloanarrangers aol”
“Biased? Not correct? You speak of yourself, sir. If you were not so obviously ignorant of the glaringly relevant stats, you'd be cognizant of the profound disparity between deaths by gun in the US vs, say the EU, (or for that matter, anywhere else in the world). Something is amiss with our glorifying attitude towards weaponry and we need to look it straight in the eye. Fact: Degree of ready access to an 'efficient' device to kill another human being is directly related to our aberrantly high murder rate as compared to other countries. Comparative and for the discerning among us, an elucidating example: In December a man in China also decided, like Adam Lanza, to attack young children, but unlike Lanza, he didn't have a gun, so he had to use a knife. 22 kids were hurt, but....none died. We lose approx. 30,000 people to guns in the US each year, more of them to suicide than murder, but guns were the expedient tool used to affect those deaths and only a fool that worshipped illogic would argue that if we, as a culture, were not so flooded with guns, all those souls would still have lost their lives. A few links, (got lots more if you're really that slow a study) Click here: Some Factual Gun Statistics – Part 2 of A Cultural Comparison: Gun Violence In The US And Europe Gary,TheLoaner”
“Followup to my post. BTW: Just to be crystal clear how utterly disregarding the company is of their customers, even if an AMEX exec steps off the golf course for a moment and accidentally reads this story and my or anyone else's post thereto, as we manifest righteous indignation as to how we've been treated, the odds of them disciplining any employee of the corporation anywhere to address any of our concerns is.... you guessed it..... '0'. And just to make the point that it's not only the underlings/the lower level employees that are dimwitted, we all know what eventually happens to companies that so arrogantly disrespect and mistreat their clients, even as the 'large letters painted on the side of the barn' seem to also be missed by 'impressive', high paid upper management. We are blantantly seen as suckers, not worthy of respect or consideration and that is a prohetically foolish mindset for them to follow. Speaking of foolish, the House's determination to obey the commands of and contributions from Wall Street and kill Dodd-Frank is yet another example of how inane, how powerless we are seen by financial institutions.”
vandation on Oct 1, 2012 at 20:27:30
“They know that by and large the Government will put up with their shenanigans ..... as long as they get their "cut" ..... hence the fine portion. I can't believe no one else sees that.”
“Months ago, my mother, while making a $172 payment by phone to American Express, (the only time she did so convey, all other times she mailed her payment to them), the utter fools that processed it added $2,000 to the amount paid. My mother speaks clearly and to be doubly sure, she had them repeat back to her the amount that she wanted them to extract from the account she had back then/at that time. As a result of their stupidity, her account was dramatically overdrawn. Once she learned of this, (it was on her bank statement as a penalized overdraft), she got on the phone with various clowns that work for AMEX and in several calls over several weeks, finally got an assurance that they would reverse it. Yet to this very day, things are still totally screwed up. Yes, the company, like most large corporations, is inherently about greed, (the dollar is not only their bottom line, it is their only concern, period), but their personnel are also ridiculously, truly inept. Of course, no governmental agency we've contacted has lifted nary a finger to assist her in any way whatsoever in getting out of this AMEX generated morass.”
“Sadly true. Like the other so-called energy drink concoctions, it contains taurine and caffeine and that's a potentially dangerous mix. Best advice to consumers- forgo the whole category and can wait until we launch a health enhancing, true energy drink, "FireUp!". Truth be known, with exception of FRS, none of the so-called energy drinks really give you energy, (pay attention, read the legally required disclaimers on cans/in the ads, "Does not provide an increase in endurance or energy"). FRS has quercetin in it and as a result, consuming a can gives a very nominal increase in energy. Though it pales in comparison to our other ingredients, our drink also has quercetin. In synergistic complement to it's being a life sustaining beverage with ground breaking biotech function, "FireUp!" has clinically tested, proprietary ingredients that allow for a far greater increase in energy/endurance. AgeLessBev@comcast.net The sustained boost has been measured in human subjects in university laboratory settings. We're the real deal and once on store shelves, the pretenders, (including RedBull, Monster, et al), will be seen for what they are- risky, overpriced, over hyped, caffeinated sugar water.
Founder, Gary Engen”
“In 1965, sitting in psych class listening to the prof., he, intentionally efforting to put me ill at ease, challenged I define intelligence for him. Though I was unprepared, the question caused me to coalesce my 'thoughts' around an already held belief born of a central inspiration, an insight if you will, re. the 'innate' intelligence of other animals, so without missing a beat I responded from such attitudinal stance thusly. "That capacity whereby an individual maintains self and perpetuates species in maximal harmony within an optimal environment". There was a pause as he starred at me and then, apparently exasperated, he blurted out, "Well if that's true, I mean, you didn't specify what species, then what does that make us?". I responded, "It makes us the dumbest animal on the face of the orb". All other animals manifest an 'intelligence'/express an apparent wisdom that provides a holistic interrelating within the ecosystem in a generally complementary, largely non discordant fashion, whereas man and only man, insists to impact his essential environment in such profoundly foolish ways as to threaten all. This faint spark of understanding, as it popped up amongst members of a sub society, either via the "hundredth monkey' phenomenon or from 'consciousness expanding substances', was the generative basis of the striving to attain a higher level of consciousness back in the '60's. The glimmer of that initial realization that we humans had a lot to learn then gave birth to the environmental movement. Gary Engen”
Trentonjordan on Aug 29, 2012 at 22:20:22
“Okay...thank you. thank you very much...while I retrieve my thesaurus. But seriously, thanks. ”
“We're pressured to see doctors as 'priests'. Most demand we trade off our dignity to them w/out question, in exchange for a represented beneficial association. Worse, epidemiological biostatisticians who've looked into efficacy rates per treatment regimes for cancers, argue that would-be patients who, upon diagnosis, elect to not accept treatment live significantly longer than those that agree to/suffer treatment. Studies show years longer. Resources | Magazine Articles | The Untreated Live Longer | F.A.C.T. | Rethinking Cancer | Alternative Cancer Therapies Oncologists are aware of such damning stats, but have spent time learning to do what they do and want to make a rich living. War on Cancer - SourceWatch ,
What doctors say about Chemo Therapy ? Years ago I cosponsored a research/treatment symposium on cancer to induce a cross-pollination between the corrupt so-called cancer researchers that, in the main, are fully prostituted by the pharmaceutical industry and the maverick, pioneering researchers not beholding to such industry. Included in the later group of hundreds of worthy researchers, (who couldn't get funding because they couldn't be bought), were 4 Noble Laureates. We'd invited the heads of NCI and ACS, but instead, they declined and held a press conference in front of the hotel, telling media there were "..qestionable personalities on the speaker's rooster". (Drs. Linus Pauling and Albert Szebt Gyorgyi) The Albert Szent-Gyorgyi Papers: The National Foundation for Cancer Research, 1973-1986". Gary Engen”
Jan 20, 2012 at 20:26:04
“You are quite correct. Unfortunately as long as the public ignores it's responsibility to turn over as many rocks as necessary so as to be factually informed on this and that issue of national import, but opts instead to lazily lap up FAUX News type propaganda that's literally written by 'the powers that be', (read: special interests), the country will continue to teeter ever closer to the edge of the precipice that Jefferson warned us we'd topple from, as he predicted "... if the moneyed elite and banks take control of the government...it will be the end of democracy". As the truly awake already realize, the disastrous Citizen United case, (Supreme Court granting 'personhood' rights to corporate entities, thereby opening the floodgates for wholesale purchase of politicians), unless reversed, may very well have been the last, fateful deciding step over the edge. The level of intelligence personified by 'the man on the street' these days is both comedically and unnervingly presented when such as Jay Leno takes his camera crew onto the streets of LA, ("JayWalk") and asks ridiculously easy, basic questions of citizens. Gary Engen”
flybykemp on Jan 20, 2012 at 22:13:01
“If Ron Paul does not get nominated, a vote for Obamma will get the collapse over quicker!”