ThomasDoubting's Comments (189)
Sarah Palin Suggests Coin Conspiracy In Wisconsin Speech
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 01:35:22 in Politics
“Death Panels? The multi-billion dollar profits, of the Insurance Industry come from the premiums of young healthy people, who rarely make a claim. In the 1960s, when Medicare was introduced, it was because the life expectancy of Americans was rising. People were living longer, and requiring increased medical care to maintain their health. The private insurance companies, did not consider, the over 65 crowd, to be a profitable market. Medicare turned out to be a pretty good program, especially considering the fact that the people fortunate enough to receive Medicare benefits, are all, at least 65 years old. It would seem pretty logical to me to open Medicare, to younger, healthier people. If these giant corporations no longer have to supply some form of private insurance, maybe that will free up some money for salaries.”
GeoLee replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 01:51:59
“One might suggest that Medicare, as a government plan, actually somewhat protects elderly from death panels called insurance bureaucrats. I can only imagine how many operation might be called unnecessary due to age that seniors routinely get and benefit from such as hip and knee replacements. As for medication? I have had to fight for two or three under my current plan. My school system has changed companies three ties in 7 years and each wants me to go back on some medication that did not work to prove they didn't work when it is clear in my medical record I have already been through the steps. I am hoping in 13 months when I go into medicare that does not keep happening. It is ridiculous that they donot accept a physician's word over an insurance company's desk jockey.”
Public Option Stays Very Much Alive
Commented Sep 30, 2009 at 03:29:56 in Politics
“Big Insurance will get what they want. Big Pharma will too. I think that Big Insurance likes it the way it is, a lot of young people, paying every month, or maybe their employer just pays them several dollars less per hour. and takes care of it.,kickbacks and all. A lot of people think that they have insurance until they try to use it. 44 years ago Big Insurance, refused to continue to insure people who had reached the ripe old age of 65, and then retired. Then Medicare was created for those 65 and older. What they would like now, is private health care for those who are young, healthy, and wealthy, and public health care for the rest of us. Why not "Medicare for All" / Accept Nothing Less / Don't get fooled again”
FBI Report: One Drug Arrest Made Every 18 Seconds
Commented Sep 14, 2009 at 13:06:42 in Politics
“How are these 850,000 people chosen for arrest ? I suspect that a huge percentage of these arrests are the result of sting operations, allowing the police to choose the pigeon. Maybe that is why so many of our prisoners look so much alike. The War on Drugs has been an abject failure and has done incredible damage families across America. Has the war on drugs benefited you ?”
FBI Report: One Drug Arrest Made Every 18 Seconds
Commented Sep 14, 2009 at 12:48:23 in Politics
“If someone wants to know if pot is good or bad, the best way to find out is to try it. . If you don't like it, don't do it again! Every generation produces people who will warn you about the dangers of pot. One thing that almost all of them, have in common, is the fact that they claim to have no personal experience with marijuana. This is one of those rare situations, where those who have the least knowledge about the subject, are considered to be the experts, and therefore make the rules . .”
FBI Report: One Drug Arrest Made Every 18 Seconds
Commented Sep 14, 2009 at 12:04:50 in Politics
“Tell me again, who is it that is benefiting from the "War on Drugs"? . Not the guy who is going to jail for awhile, nor his wife, nor his kids It is not going to be good for his employer, his creditors, and the local churches ,and charities. The biggest financial hit will probably, be taken by the taxpayers, while they pay for the hard time that this guy is doing, at no less than $30,000 per year. Depending on the circumstances, his wife and kids might qualify for food stamps and emergency medical care. Hard to guess what that might amount to, Let's say $ 5000 per year on average. I don't know the average cost of a prosecution, It must be a couple of thousand. Many people have to be paid. Someone has to provide food for the inmates, low bid wins. Someone has to provide uniforms, Someone has to provide healthcare. I could go on, but you understand that there is a fortune being made in the incarceration business.It is obvious why the private companies are finding their way into the business.”
ncmom54 replied on Sep 14, 2009 at 12:19:37
“there are plenty on Wall Street elligible to fill the empty spaces.”
FBI Report: One Drug Arrest Made Every 18 Seconds
Commented Sep 14, 2009 at 11:36:10 in Politics
“The people who seem to be most certain about the evils of Marijuana, are the people who will proudly tell you, that they have never used it. They claim to be the experts.They apparently know something the rest of us don't. Some have heard about it, some have read about it, some have even seen it used. I believe that each of us is entitled to an opinion, but we must consider the source of that opinion. Very often the people who tell us that marijuana is bad, are the same people who will tell you that they don't use drugs. Ask them if they drink, smoke cigarettes, drink caffeine, eat sugar, etc. You might also inquire which prescription drugs they take, and why. Ask if they belong to a church, which tells them, which of the above are acceptable for them. Ask if they are free, to express an opinion, that conflicts with their government.”
davidhilton1 replied on Sep 14, 2009 at 12:04:13
“its so bad - then why is it used out here in cali for medicinal purposes? in cali if u have less the @ an ounce of herb its a 100 dollar ticket n/t”
New Rule: Conspiracy Weary
Commented Sep 10, 2009 at 19:53:31 in Comedy
“Part 1 I read the Warren Report, and I read the 911 Commission Report. The 911 Report failed to notice that 3 buildings turned to dust that day. They only commented, on the twin towers. but apparently forgot to mention the third building (WTC7) that turned to dust that day.That was the one that was not hit by a plane but turned to powder just like the other two. That commission created the "Pancake Theory" like the Warren Report created the "Single Bullet Theory". Neither of which is physically possible. After the report was written some of the commissioners complained that the Report contained false information regarding NORAD's scrambling of those jet fighters to protect our country. They said that the Defense Department lied to them, and refused to cooperate. It is now known, that our multi-billion dollar a year, military, did not get even one plane, off the ground during the almost two hours, that the attack lasted. No reason was ever given for the standdown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI&feature=PlayList&p=54CA3953A323524B”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI&feature=PlayList&p=54CA3953A323524B”
anaxamander replied on Sep 11, 2009 at 14:32:26
“I used to not believe the "magic bullet theory" until I saw Mythbusters recreate that bullet shot successfully. Turns out they were in a special car made for driving thru crowds and waving, and the Gov was in the front seat which was lower and further inside than a regular seat would be. When this is taken into account, the "magic bullet theory" turns out to be not just plausible but recreatable. It would be difficult to recreate the pancake theory because you'd have to destroy buildings, but building 7 was shorter and was probably hit by debris and shaken by the massive rumbles of those two buildings falling. That is certainly plausible. And I have seen photos of it. It was not, in fact, "turned to dust." The base of it was still standing. Was the Cheney administration sorry 9/11 happened? Doubtful. It gave them just the atmosphere they needed to do the things they did. But I do not believe for a moment they were behind it. It was some disenchanted Saudis with alot of money who didn't like the way their government played ball with us and allowed our troops in their country. Just like you would be if Saudi troops were stationed here. And that's it.”
diabless replied on Sep 11, 2009 at 11:14:42
“Exactly. And what is illogical about asking why the greatest military/superpower of our time could not scramble 1 fighter jet with so many rogue flights awry that morning? 1 plane. Just 1. It's this lack of response that is illogical. Never mind the buildings that mysteriously imploded on account of the proximity of the buildings that were actually hit.....
Sigh. Why aren't throngs of media ppl questioning this? Also illogical.”
Sigh. Why aren't throngs of media ppl questioning this? Also illogical.”
questionator replied on Sep 11, 2009 at 10:24:12
“Listening to some of the speaches that JFK gave in the days leading up to his murder will give you an idea of why he was assassinated. But of coarse, to suggest that there even IS a military-industrial-media complex would only make you a "conspiracy theorist" thereby eliminating any of your credibility as being a sane person. Because these days, if you question authority, why, you can't possibly be capable of rational thought.”
rf-hawaii replied on Sep 11, 2009 at 04:25:47
“Yep. Building 7 was shown being imploded on live television as well as the PBS special about 911.
Why and how was that building imploded on that day?
No answers, just a lot of questions.”
Why and how was that building imploded on that day?
No answers, just a lot of questions.”
Charles Stoveken replied on Sep 10, 2009 at 20:52:09
“IN THE CASE OF THE TOWERS IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CRUX OF ISSUE IS NOT HOW THEY WERE BROUGHT DOWN , BUT RATHER WHO STOOD THE MOST TO GAIN BY NOT ONLY DELIBERATLY NOT STOPPING THE TERRORISTS BUT DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO AID THEM ONCE THEIR PLANS WERE DISCOVERED.CHARLIE.”
New Rule: Conspiracy Weary
Commented Sep 10, 2009 at 19:49:10 in Comedy
“ Part 2 The Warren Commission had the services of J.Edgar Hoover who was a master of the cover-up. Forty six years later, new information is finally appearing, photos, films, eyewitnesses who survived, and are now willing to speak out, and death bed confessions, not to mention the audio record of many shots fired almost simultaneously, from different directions. If that is not enough to convince you, look at the Zapruder film, that shows the president being shot from the front. For the younger folks reading this, remember that they will not release CIA files, on Lee Harvey Oswald until the year 2039, for national security reasons, of course. So much for the lone nut theory. If this was a random act by a lone nut why are they not able to convince us. The men who killed JFK must still be in positions of power today to have maintained this cover-up for all these years. The 911 cover-up was a very sloppy job. For those who have the courage to look in to this, you will find the truth fairly easily. Of course that does not mean, that you will be able to express that truth, openly. The only people who believe the Warren Report and the 911 Report are the people who have not read them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI&feature=PlayList&p=54CA3953A323524B”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI&feature=PlayList&p=54CA3953A323524B”
New Rule: Conspiracy Weary
Commented Sep 10, 2009 at 02:38:15 in Comedy
“It appears that Bill Maher has backed himself into a corner, when it comes to what happened on 9/11. These truthers are pretty clever, they have caused him to deny any knowledge of what happened that day, other than what the Bush/Cheney regime told us through their media outlets. It was a lot easier to bullshit people, immediately after the attacks. There was a lot of fear, sometimes expressed as rage. George W. Bush 's approval rating went from 51% to 91% within days. Was it because of the immediate and effective response that stopped the attack when the first plane was reported hijacked? It must have been in spite of the military Stand Down, that allowed the attacks to go on until it was finished. Or was it because he handled a Megaphone well. To those 20% or so who still support Bush and his policies, you probably believe he never lied to you. To the 80% or so whose minds are open to the possibility that maybe, they didn't tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, all the time. If you are one of those who does not know what happened that day, The link may provoke some questions and some answers. Discuss it with your friends, neighbors, and co-workers. They might surprise you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI&feature=PlayList&p=54CA3953A323524B”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_E4N5YIycI&feature=PlayList&p=54CA3953A323524B”
Rainmakr44 replied on Sep 10, 2009 at 20:37:33
“Dear Thomas. Have you ever seen the fake moon landing video. It's every bit as convincing. They had their expert college educated supporters,too. The Kennedy asassination? Omigod, videos ,expert witnesses, gun specialists. They covered every minor flaw that couldn't be explained...until Gerald Posner wrote "Case Closed" that was written with such unbiased writing, but dealt with "every" question" raised, including the magical bullet. If you were a logical, intelligent human being, his book ended any and all conspiracy. Still...some would not change even though they could not dispute his findings.”
ipv4 replied on Sep 10, 2009 at 09:46:15
“If their something we have learned about the bush adminstration is that they are way to incompetent to pull of an operation of this scale. Cmon , give me a break.”
just2curious replied on Sep 10, 2009 at 08:50:06
“Did you know Huffingtonpost has a ban on 911 articles being blogged? I just read that in one of Arianna's recent articles.”
Huckabee: Kennedy Would Have Been Urged To Die Earlier Under ObamaCare
Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 00:42:09 in Politics
“This guy Huckabee, is what was once known, as a creep. A Person to be avoided. He seems to have little or no compassion for his fellow Americans, many of whom, are in mourning for a man, who many feel, was one of the greatest Senators that this country ever produced. He was also one of the most loved. This ignoranus thinks that people are so stupid that they are buying his "Rev" bullshit. He probably thinks that it will give him some credibility, it has the opposite effect on me. Lets hope that this fool runs in the GOP Primary in 2112. It could be great Republican primary, Rev Huckabee, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingerich, and Bobby Jindal. Maybe "Diaper Dan" Vitter will be cleaned up (oops, no pun intended) and ready for a V.P. run.”
Huckabee: Kennedy Would Have Been Urged To Die Earlier Under ObamaCare
Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 00:17:59 in Politics
“This guy Huckabee, is what was once known, as a creep. A person to be avoided. He seems to have little or no compassion for his fellow Americans, many of whom, are in mourning for a man, who many feel, was one of the greatest Senators that this country ever produced. He was also one of the most loved. This ignoranus thinks that people are so stupid that they are buying his "Rev" bullshit. He probably thinks that it will give him some credibility, it has the opposite effect on me. Lets hope that this fool runs in the GOP Primary in 2112. It could be great Republican primary, Rev Huckabee, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingerich, and Bobby Jindal. Maybe "Diaper Dan" Vitter will be cleaned up (oops, no pun intended) and ready for a V.P. run.”
President Obama Will Likely Dump the Public Option, and Here's Why
Commented Aug 19, 2009 at 17:43:24 in Politics
“It appears that we are not going to get a Free, Universal, Single Payer, Not For Profit, Health Care System, in the near future. The polls say that more than 70% of the American people want a Single Payer System. The Congress, those who admit to being Republicans, and those who say that they are Democrats, together have sold us out to the Insurance, and Pharmecutical industries. Many people feel that anything this government gives us, will be better than what we have now. That does not necessarily follow. In fact with this crowd, that is presently in power, it's hard to believe that they will not make it worse. I know, it is hard to believe. Maybe we should vote it down, until they give us what we want. Isn't that how it is supposed to work, in a democracy ? "Medicare For All"”
The Truth Will Out
Commented Aug 15, 2009 at 02:23:44 in Politics
“It appears that we are not going to get a Free, Universal, Single Payer, Not For Profit, Health Care System, in the near future. The polls say that more than 70% of the American people want a Single Payer System. The Congress, those who admit to being Republicans, and those who say that they are Democrats, together have sold us out to the Insurance, and Pharmecutical industries. Many people feel that anything this government gives us, will be better than what we have now. That does not necessarily follow. In fact with this crowd, that is presently in power, it's hard to believe that they will not make it worse. I know, it is hard to believe. Maybe we should vote it down, until they give us what we want. Isn't that how it is supposed to work, in a democracy ? "Medicare For All"”
suzukimom replied on Aug 15, 2009 at 06:58:09
“Our president is selling us out. Without the public option there is no real reform, and I don't think we are going to get it. My husband is a doc, and dealing with the insurance companies is such misery for patients and providers. My heart aches that they will remain in control of the system. Does anyone know how much O took in from the insurance industry during the campaign? I admit to willful blindness during the campaign. Whenever I would see or hear anyone say that O was taking money from industry, I would literally close my eyes and shake my head and say, "No. He gets his money from us. He will work for us." That belief motivated me make calls for him, travel to a battleground state for him, register voters for him, and send money to him. If we do not get the public option, modeled on Medicare available to all from day one, I will never believe again. Without the public option, we are screwed by Obama.”
Acidic replied on Aug 15, 2009 at 03:33:31
“There's another poll that says 80% of the insured like the status quo, so which are you supposed to believe?”
Is Obama a Back-Room Blue Dog on Health Care?
Commented Aug 15, 2009 at 02:00:08 in Politics
“It appears that we are not going to get a Free, Universal, Single Payer, Not For Profit, Health Care System, in the near future. The polls say that more than 70% of the American people want a Single Payer System. The Congress, those who admit to being Republicans, and those who say that they are Democrats, together have sold us out to the Insurance, and Pharmecutical industries. Many people feel that anything this government gives us, will be better than what we have now. That does not necessarily follow. In fact with this crowd, that is presently in power, it's hard to believe that they will not make it worse. I know, it is hard to believe. Maybe we should vote it down, until they give us what we want. Isn't that how it is supposed to work, in a democracy ? "Medicare For All"”
The "Death Panel" Rumor: Where Did It Come From?
Commented Aug 14, 2009 at 02:31:19 in Politics
“Corporate America claims that they are paying from 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee to the health insurance companies. Everyone gets a 5 to 10 dollar, per hour, raise, with a Free, Universal, Single Payer, not For Profit, Health Care System. Talk about a stimulus package! If those in corporate jobs, with private insurance have illnesses, that have been identified, they are stuck, working for that employer, until the employer dumps them. Even if it's a family member, who has a preexisting condition, that employee can forget about a different insurance company, or a different job. I have been told, that it is hard to negotiate a raise, or a promotion, when they know, that you can't leave. Why are we not demanding, to be paid in cash? Maybe they are paying 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee. If they are, then why are they opposed to "Medicare for All" ? ?”
SmallChange replied on Aug 14, 2009 at 03:29:58
“Absolutely correct.”
Obama To Take On Health-Care Critics
Commented Aug 14, 2009 at 02:27:52 in Politics
“The cost of this Obamacare will be high enough,that they will need to subsidize people whose income is under about $88,000 per year.By subsizing the Americans who need to have health care and who earn less than the figure chosen .It will allow our government to keep track of "lower Income people", like most of us. It will allow them to link our financial status to our physical health. With that information they can decide which of us are worth keeping, and in the words of Henry Kissinger, which are the "useless eaters". We heard the President tell us that 2/3 of the money intended for the new program will be from saving and economizing. Not doing needless procedures, useless tests, etc. These are code words for taking away our right to sue for medical malpractice. People sue because of patients who have been killed and maimed. These are not trivial suits. If the MDs don't like being ripped off by the insurance companies they should work it out between themselves, and the Insurance company, and not expect us to give up our rights as American citizens. If they really don't like what the insurance companies are doing, they should join together with millions of their patients, and families, across the country. ***A free, universal, single payer, not-for profit, health care system NOW! *** "Medicare for All'”
sviolette replied on Aug 14, 2009 at 04:30:01
“The medical malpractice you are talking about is called tort reform. That's what the republicans want for healthcare reform. You aren't paying attention are you?”
Nicon replied on Aug 14, 2009 at 03:31:12
“How many rows of seats were on your school bus?”
JayeSF replied on Aug 14, 2009 at 02:40:02
“That's a hecka interpretation of something which exists only in your own head. None of the markups currently in the house or senate come anywhere near such a proposal you are claiming exists...”
Healthcare FLASHBACKS (VIDEO)
Commented Aug 10, 2009 at 01:02:50 in Politics
“When the American people wake up, they are going to be very disappointed to learn that we could have demanded a Free Universal,Single Payer, Not For Profit, health care system, preferred by 70 to 80 % of Americans, we didn't do it. The insurance companies are presenting a plan in Congress and it calls for a two tiered system, allowing the Private Insurance companies to continue to insure the young healthy people they presently cover. The second tier would be a public option for people who the insurance companies don't want. The Insurance industry plan calls for keeping the premiums for the public plan close to the price of the private plan, so that they can keep their customers. The customers that they prefer are those who never see a doctor. With the public option, a family of four with an income under $88,000, will have their payments subsidized, on a graduated basis,if they can prove that they have not had more than $88,00 in annual income. A Medicaid-like plan for people who used to consider themselves middle class. President Obama wants to have a centralized health record system, like they presently have, for those who have been in the military, recently. They can also maintain financial records for those, who live on, under $88,000. With Health records and financial records together, it will be obvious to all, who are the the valuable members of society, and who are (in the words of Henry Kissinger) the Useless Eaters.”
Firbolg replied on Aug 10, 2009 at 01:23:13
“Thank you for a good synopsis of where we may be heading.
However, if the tiers are income based, then the insurance companies can not cherry pick as easily although, simply because of the volume and variety of policies and the inclusion of a fraud clause, any constraints will be very hard to monitor at the individual patient level.
Strict regulation is not a fine art in the US. Ask any banker.
The real question is how many employers will use the provisions as an excuse to stop providing benefits now that, apparently, the employers’ mandate is not included. If this is widespread and the individual mandate is still included I can see a lot of angst and disappointment even form those who feel they are above the fray as of now.”
However, if the tiers are income based, then the insurance companies can not cherry pick as easily although, simply because of the volume and variety of policies and the inclusion of a fraud clause, any constraints will be very hard to monitor at the individual patient level.
Strict regulation is not a fine art in the US. Ask any banker.
The real question is how many employers will use the provisions as an excuse to stop providing benefits now that, apparently, the employers’ mandate is not included. If this is widespread and the individual mandate is still included I can see a lot of angst and disappointment even form those who feel they are above the fray as of now.”
nellie replied on Aug 10, 2009 at 01:07:44
“If they would open the public plan to everyone, that would change the dynamic. They haven't made decision yet. It's another one of those items that's going to be worked out in conference.”
Obama: Health Care Overhaul Doesn't Have To Be Bipartisan
Commented Aug 05, 2009 at 22:48:26 in Politics
“Corporate America claims that they are paying from 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee to the health insurance companies. Everyone gets a 5 to 10 dollar, per hour, raise, with a Free, Universal, Single Payer, not For Profit, Health Care System. Talk about a stimulus package! If those in corporate jobs, with private insurance have illnesses, that have been identified, they are stuck, working for that employer, until the employer dumps them. Even if it's a family member, who has a preexisting condition, that employee can forget about a different insurance company, or a different job. I have been told, that it is hard to negotiate a raise, or a promotion, when they know, that you can't leave. Why are we not demanding, to be paid in cash? Maybe they are paying 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee. If they are, then why are they opposed to "Medicare for All" ? ?”
disabledjim replied on Aug 05, 2009 at 23:01:41
“govt set the current rules that ins companys work under. employer provided healthcare is a dem union idea pushed hard in the 60s.ins comp just followed where they were led.unions pushed the idea of non transferable coverage to keep membership roles high.thats how we got here today.we dont need ins except for catastrophic coverage.most normal visits are affordable.you pay more in ins premiums than you would paying for routine office visits.doctors pass the cost of dealing w/ins comp right on to you.”
Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!
Commented Aug 05, 2009 at 22:38:56 in Politics
“Corporate America claims that they are paying from 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee to the health insurance companies. Everyone gets a 5 to 10 dollar, per hour, raise, with a Free, Universal, Single Payer, not For Profit, Health Care System. Talk about a stimulus package! If those in corporate jobs, with private insurance have illnesses, that have been identified, they are stuck, working for that employer, until the employer dumps them. Even if it's a family member, who has a preexisting condition, that employee can forget about a different insurance company, or a different job. I have been told, that it is hard to negotiate a raise, or a promotion, when they know, that you can't leave. Why are we not demanding, to be paid in cash? Maybe they are paying 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee. If they are, then why are they opposed to "Medicare for All" ? ?”
pragmaticdallasite replied on Aug 06, 2009 at 00:15:55
“That number sounds about right. You get it. A lot of people don't understand it that way unfortunately”
Five Reasons the Health Care Battle Is NOT the Presidential Campaign
Commented Aug 05, 2009 at 00:28:40 in Politics
“Does this plan call for the private insurance companies to continue to insure healthy young families as long as they are healthy, and young and put the less desirable, higher risk, people into some kind of pool of people, that the private companies don't want to insure. Something like Medicaid, but for people who used to consider themselves middle class. We need a Free, Universal, Single Payer, Not For Profit, Health Care system. If everybody is in, and nobody is out, it will work better for everyone. Why would anyone other than some of the filthy rich, and members of corporate America want a two tier system? Don't they know that they will be in the bottom tier as soon as they miss a couple of paychecks. These people don't seem to understand that their employer is paying some of their salary to one of these insurance giants, and maybe, getting kickbacks. I would prefer the cash! "Medicare For All"”
How To Argue For A Public Option On Health Insurance
Commented Aug 04, 2009 at 23:19:00 in Politics
“The reason why a Free, Universal, Single Payer,Not For Profit, Health care System works so well is because we throw all the money in one big pot, then if some people become ill, they will be cared for and for those who are fortunate enough to be well, they can enjoy their good health throughout their lives. They can also sleep better at night knowing that, if they become ill, it will not bring financial disaster too. Among the people who are fortunate enough to have employer health insurance, many of them are young healthy adults with no obvious health issues, otherwise they would probably not have been hired in the first place. When the employer pays, they are careful about who they hire. This contributes to discrimination, by age, weight, sex, etc. Whatever the employer saves, goes into the companies profits. What the employee sometimes forgets, is that the money paid for health insurance is part of their salary. In other words, if the employer no longer pays for insurance, does everyone get a raise, sounds fair to me. You know that any increase in the cost of insurance represents a pay cut or a missed raise for you, so why not a raise when it goes down. With private insurance, you don't know if you and your family are insured until you see that hospital bill marked "Paid in Full", and then you have to worry about next time. ,,,"Medicare For All"”
How To Argue For A Public Option On Health Insurance
Commented Aug 03, 2009 at 23:03:11 in Politics
“Part 1 The Health Care Industry as represented by the Insurance Companies have a plan for how they want this issue resolved. The Democratic Congress and President also have a plan, and although, we have heard bits and pieces of the government plan, most people have no idea what they are proposing. The fact that the proposed bill has more than 1000 pages is a bad sign. If the sponsors thought that the American voters would approve, they would be telling us all about it, with pride. Why are these "progressive" Senators, and Congressmen telling us about the need to go slow, and getting it past the right wingers. The first class, in Negotiation 101, teaches that you ask for more than you want, not less, and do it, with the confidence that you will win. They should be telling us, that we now have a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress and we are going to use this opportunity to something that the American people want. Not only give the people what they want, but do it cheaper. Recent polls show 70% of the Americans polled, said they want a Free, Universal, Single payer, not for profit, health care system. We don't need no stinkin, Insurance Companies, and people know it.”
Samcat604 replied on Aug 04, 2009 at 10:14:13
“"Recent polls show 70% of the Americans polled, said they want a Free, Universal, Single payer, not for profit, health care system."
Of course people want something for nothing. However, no such system exists. NOTHING is ever free. If you have a job, you are paying for it twice. Once in taxes (the 'penalty' costs of your employer not provided their own) and once for the plan itself.”
Of course people want something for nothing. However, no such system exists. NOTHING is ever free. If you have a job, you are paying for it twice. Once in taxes (the 'penalty' costs of your employer not provided their own) and once for the plan itself.”
How To Argue For A Public Option On Health Insurance
Commented Aug 03, 2009 at 23:01:53 in Politics
“Part 2 In the 1950s and 1960s, when medical technology began to keep people alive, longer than the Insurance Industry had planned, they refused to insure those over age 65, which was a common retirement age, at that time. If you left your job, that was the end of your health care insurance. That's why the government created Medicare. Medicare has covered seniors who are relatively high risk, while they left younger healthier people to the private companies. Now it looks like they want the federal government to insure the millions considered 'uninsurable'. Of course they don't want to lose their healthy young people, many of whom never even see a doctor, while their employer, pays a large percentage, of the employees' salary, to this insurance company. Only when the hospital says 'Paid In Full' will they be sure if they were really covered. I suspect that most of those 1000 pages tell us, what we are not going to get. When the right wingers have some input, of course they will make it even worse. "Medicare for All"”
Obama Tries To Build Support For Health Care By Promising Less
Commented Aug 02, 2009 at 12:31:33 in Politics
“Part 1 The Health Care Industry as represented by the Insurance Companies have a plan for how they want this issue resolved. The Democratic Congress and President also have a plan, and although, we have heard bits and pieces of the government plan, most people have no idea what they are proposing. The fact that the proposed bill has more than 1000 pages is a bad sign. If the sponsors thought that the American voters would approve, they would be telling us all about it, with pride. Why are these "progressive" Senators, and Congressmen telling us about the need to go slow, and getting it past the right wingers. The first class, in Negotiation 101, teaches that you ask for more than you want, not less, and do it, with the confidence that you will win. They should be telling us, that we now have a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress and we are going to use this opportunity to something that the American people want. Not only give the people what they want, but do it cheaper. Recent polls show 70% of the Americans polled, said they want a Free, Universal, Single payer, not for profit, health care system. We don't need no stinkin, Insurance Companies, and people know it.”
Obama Tries To Build Support For Health Care By Promising Less
Commented Aug 02, 2009 at 12:30:47 in Politics
“Part 2 In the 1950s and 1960s, when medical technology began to keep people alive, longer than the Insurance Industry had planned, they refused to insure those over age 65, which was a common retirement age, at that time. If you left your job, that was the end of your health care insurance. That's why the government created Medicare. Medicare has covered seniors who are relatively high risk, while they left younger healthier people to the private companies. Now it looks like they want the federal government to insure the millions considered 'uninsurable'. Of course they don't want to lose their healthy young people, many of whom never even see a doctor, while their employer, pays a large percentage, of the employees' salary, to this insurance company. Only when the hospital says 'Paid In Full' will they be sure if they were really covered. I suspect that most of those 1000 pages tell us, what we are not going to get. When the right wingers have some input, of course they will make it even worse. "Medicare for All"”


