ThomasDoubting's Comments (159)
Sarah Palin Suggests Coin Conspiracy In Wisconsin Speech
Commented Nov 10, 2009 at 01:35:22 in Politics
“Death Panels? The multi-billion dollar profits, of the Insurance Industry come from the premiums of young healthy people, who rarely make a claim. In the 1960s, when Medicare was introduced, it was because the life expectancy of Americans was rising. People were living longer, and requiring increased medical care to maintain their health. The private insurance companies, did not consider, the over 65 crowd, to be a profitable market. Medicare turned out to be a pretty good program, especially considering the fact that the people fortunate enough to receive Medicare benefits, are all, at least 65 years old. It would seem pretty logical to me to open Medicare, to younger, healthier people. If these giant corporations no longer have to supply some form of private insurance, maybe that will free up some money for salaries.”
GeoLee replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 01:51:59
“One might suggest that Medicare, as a government plan, actually somewhat protects elderly from death panels called insurance bureaucrats. I can only imagine how many operation might be called unnecessary due to age that seniors routinely get and benefit from such as hip and knee replacements. As for medication? I have had to fight for two or three under my current plan. My school system has changed companies three ties in 7 years and each wants me to go back on some medication that did not work to prove they didn't work when it is clear in my medical record I have already been through the steps. I am hoping in 13 months when I go into medicare that does not keep happening. It is ridiculous that they donot accept a physician's word over an insurance company's desk jockey.”
FBI Report: One Drug Arrest Made Every 18 Seconds
Commented Sep 14, 2009 at 13:06:42 in Politics
“How are these 850,000 people chosen for arrest ? I suspect that a huge percentage of these arrests are the result of sting operations, allowing the police to choose the pigeon. Maybe that is why so many of our prisoners look so much alike. The War on Drugs has been an abject failure and has done incredible damage families across America. Has the war on drugs benefited you ?”
FBI Report: One Drug Arrest Made Every 18 Seconds
Commented Sep 14, 2009 at 12:48:23 in Politics
“If someone wants to know if pot is good or bad, the best way to find out is to try it. . If you don't like it, don't do it again! Every generation produces people who will warn you about the dangers of pot. One thing that almost all of them, have in common, is the fact that they claim to have no personal experience with marijuana. This is one of those rare situations, where those who have the least knowledge about the subject, are considered to be the experts, and therefore make the rules . .”
FBI Report: One Drug Arrest Made Every 18 Seconds
Commented Sep 14, 2009 at 12:04:50 in Politics
“Tell me again, who is it that is benefiting from the "War on Drugs"? . Not the guy who is going to jail for awhile, nor his wife, nor his kids It is not going to be good for his employer, his creditors, and the local churches ,and charities. The biggest financial hit will probably, be taken by the taxpayers, while they pay for the hard time that this guy is doing, at no less than $30,000 per year. Depending on the circumstances, his wife and kids might qualify for food stamps and emergency medical care. Hard to guess what that might amount to, Let's say $ 5000 per year on average. I don't know the average cost of a prosecution, It must be a couple of thousand. Many people have to be paid. Someone has to provide food for the inmates, low bid wins. Someone has to provide uniforms, Someone has to provide healthcare. I could go on, but you understand that there is a fortune being made in the incarceration business.I t is obvious why the private companies are finding their way into the business.”
ncmom54 replied on Sep 14, 2009 at 12:19:37
“there are plenty on Wall Street elligible to fill the empty spaces.”
FBI Report: One Drug Arrest Made Every 18 Seconds
Commented Sep 14, 2009 at 11:36:10 in Politics
“The people who seem to be most certain about the evils of Marijuana, are the people who will proudly tell you, that they have never used it. They claim to be the experts.Th ey apparently know something the rest of us don't. Some have heard about it, some have read about it, some have even seen it used. I believe that each of us is entitled to an opinion, but we must consider the source of that opinion. Very often the people who tell us that marijuana is bad, are the same people who will tell you that they don't use drugs. Ask them if they drink, smoke cigarettes, drink caffeine, eat sugar, etc. You might also inquire which prescription drugs they take, and why. Ask if they belong to a church, which tells them, which of the above are acceptable for them. Ask if they are free, to express an opinion, that conflicts with their government.”
davidhilton1 replied on Sep 14, 2009 at 12:04:13
“its so bad - then why is it used out here in cali for medicinal purposes? in cali if u have less the @ an ounce of herb its a 100 dollar ticket n/t”
Huckabee: Kennedy Would Have Been Urged To Die Earlier Under ObamaCare
Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 00:42:09 in Politics
“This guy Huckabee, is what was once known, as a creep. A Person to be avoided. He seems to have little or no compassion for his fellow Americans, many of whom, are in mourning for a man, who many feel, was one of the greatest Senators that this country ever produced. He was also one of the most loved. This ignoranus thinks that people are so stupid that they are buying his "Rev" bullshit. He probably thinks that it will give him some credibility, it has the opposite effect on me. Lets hope that this fool runs in the GOP Primary in 2112. It could be great Republican primary, Rev Huckabee, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingerich, and Bobby Jindal. Maybe "Diaper Dan" Vitter will be cleaned up (oops, no pun intended) and ready for a V.P. run.”
Huckabee: Kennedy Would Have Been Urged To Die Earlier Under ObamaCare
Commented Aug 29, 2009 at 00:17:59 in Politics
“This guy Huckabee, is what was once known, as a creep. A person to be avoided. He seems to have little or no compassion for his fellow Americans, many of whom, are in mourning for a man, who many feel, was one of the greatest Senators that this country ever produced. He was also one of the most loved. This ignoranus thinks that people are so stupid that they are buying his "Rev" bullshit. He probably thinks that it will give him some credibility, it has the opposite effect on me. Lets hope that this fool runs in the GOP Primary in 2112. It could be great Republican primary, Rev Huckabee, Sarah Palin, Newt Gingerich, and Bobby Jindal. Maybe "Diaper Dan" Vitter will be cleaned up (oops, no pun intended) and ready for a V.P. run.”
The Truth Will Out
Commented Aug 15, 2009 at 02:23:44 in Politics
“It appears that we are not going to get a Free, Universal, Single Payer, Not For Profit, Health Care System, in the near future. The polls say that more than 70% of the American people want a Single Payer System. The Congress, those who admit to being Republicans, and those who say that they are Democrats, together have sold us out to the Insurance, and Pharmecutical industries. Many people feel that anything this government gives us, will be better than what we have now. That does not necessarily follow. In fact with this crowd, that is presently in power, it's hard to believe that they will not make it worse. I know, it is hard to believe. Maybe we should vote it down, until they give us what we want. Isn't that how it is supposed to work, in a democracy ? "Medicare For All"”
suzukimom replied on Aug 15, 2009 at 06:58:09
“Our president is selling us out. Without the public option there is no real reform, and I don't think we are going to get it. My husband is a doc, and dealing with the insurance companies is such misery for patients and providers. My heart aches that they will remain in control of the system. Does anyone know how much O took in from the insurance industry during the campaign? I admit to willful blindness during the campaign. Whenever I would see or hear anyone say that O was taking money from industry, I would literally close my eyes and shake my head and say, "No. He gets his money from us. He will work for us." That belief motivated me make calls for him, travel to a battleground state for him, register voters for him, and send money to him. If we do not get the public option, modeled on Medicare available to all from day one, I will never believe again. Without the public option, we are screwed by Obama.”
Acidic replied on Aug 15, 2009 at 03:33:31
“There's another poll that says 80% of the insured like the status quo, so which are you supposed to believe?”
The "Death Panel" Rumor: Where Did It Come From?
Commented Aug 14, 2009 at 02:31:19 in Politics
“Corporate America claims that they are paying from 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee to the health insurance companies. Everyone gets a 5 to 10 dollar, per hour, raise, with a Free, Universal, Single Payer, not For Profit, Health Care System. Talk about a stimulus package! If those in corporate jobs, with private insurance have illnesses, that have been identified, they are stuck, working for that employer, until the employer dumps them. Even if it's a family member, who has a preexisting condition, that employee can forget about a different insurance company, or a different job. I have been told, that it is hard to negotiate a raise, or a promotion, when they know, that you can't leave. Why are we not demanding, to be paid in cash? Maybe they are paying 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee. If they are, then why are they opposed to "Medicare for All" ? ?”
SmallChange replied on Aug 14, 2009 at 03:29:58
“Absolutely correct.”
Obama To Take On Health-Care Critics
Commented Aug 14, 2009 at 02:27:52 in Politics
“The cost of this Obamacare will be high enough,that they will need to subsidize people whose income is under about $88,000 per year.By subsizing the Americans who need to have health care and who earn less than the figure chosen .It will allow our government to keep track of "lower Income people", like most of us. It will allow them to link our financial status to our physical health. With that information they can decide which of us are worth keeping, and in the words of Henry Kissinger, which are the "useless eaters". We heard the President tell us that 2/3 of the money intended for the new program will be from saving and economizing. Not doing needless procedures, useless tests, etc. These are code words for taking away our right to sue for medical malpractice. People sue because of patients who have been killed and maimed. These are not trivial suits. If the MDs don't like being ripped off by the insurance companies they should work it out between themselves, and the Insurance company, and not expect us to give up our rights as American citizens. If they really don't like what the insurance companies are doing, they should join together with millions of their patients, and families, across the country. ***A free, universal, single payer, not-for profit, health care system NOW! *** "Medicare for All'”
sviolette replied on Aug 14, 2009 at 04:30:01
“The medical malpractice you are talking about is called tort reform. That's what the republicans want for healthcare reform. You aren't paying attention are you?”
Nicon replied on Aug 14, 2009 at 03:31:12
“How many rows of seats were on your school bus?”
JayeSF replied on Aug 14, 2009 at 02:40:02
“That's a hecka interpretation of something which exists only in your own head. None of the markups currently in the house or senate come anywhere near such a proposal you are claiming exists...”
Healthcare FLASHBACKS (VIDEO)
Commented Aug 10, 2009 at 01:02:50 in Politics
“When the American people wake up, they are going to be very disappointed to learn that we could have demanded a Free Universal,Single Payer, Not For Profit, health care system, preferred by 70 to 80 % of Americans, we didn't do it. The insurance companies are presenting a plan in Congress and it calls for a two tiered system, allowing the Private Insurance companies to continue to insure the young healthy people they presently cover. The second tier would be a public option for people who the insurance companies don't want. The Insurance industry plan calls for keeping the premiums for the public plan close to the price of the private plan, so that they can keep their customers. The customers that they prefer are those who never see a doctor. With the public option, a family of four with an income under $88,000, will have their payments subsidized, on a graduated basis,if they can prove that they have not had more than $88,00 in annual income. A Medicaid-like plan for people who used to consider themselves middle class. President Obama wants to have a centralized health record system, like they presently have, for those who have been in the military, recently. They can also maintain financial records for those, who live on, under $88,000. With Health records and financial records together, it will be obvious to all, who are the the valuable members of society, and who are (in the words of Henry Kissinger) the Useless Eaters.”
Firbolg replied on Aug 10, 2009 at 01:23:13
“Thank you for a good synopsis of where we may be heading.
However, if the tiers are income based, then the insurance companies can not cherry pick as easily although, simply because of the volume and variety of policies and the inclusion of a fraud clause, any constraints will be very hard to monitor at the individual patient level.
Strict regulation is not a fine art in the US. Ask any banker.
The real question is how many employers will use the provisions as an excuse to stop providing benefits now that, apparently, the employers’ mandate is not included. If this is widespread and the individual mandate is still included I can see a lot of angst and disappointment even form those who feel they are above the fray as of now.”
However, if the tiers are income based, then the insurance companies can not cherry pick as easily although, simply because of the volume and variety of policies and the inclusion of a fraud clause, any constraints will be very hard to monitor at the individual patient level.
Strict regulation is not a fine art in the US. Ask any banker.
The real question is how many employers will use the provisions as an excuse to stop providing benefits now that, apparently, the employers’ mandate is not included. If this is widespread and the individual mandate is still included I can see a lot of angst and disappointment even form those who feel they are above the fray as of now.”
nellie replied on Aug 10, 2009 at 01:07:44
“If they would open the public plan to everyone, that would change the dynamic. They haven't made decision yet. It's another one of those items that's going to be worked out in conference.”
Obama: Health Care Overhaul Doesn't Have To Be Bipartisan
Commented Aug 05, 2009 at 22:48:26 in Politics
“Corporate America claims that they are paying from 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee to the health insurance companies. Everyone gets a 5 to 10 dollar, per hour, raise, with a Free, Universal, Single Payer, not For Profit, Health Care System. Talk about a stimulus package! If those in corporate jobs, with private insurance have illnesses, that have been identified, they are stuck, working for that employer, until the employer dumps them. Even if it's a family member, who has a preexisting condition, that employee can forget about a different insurance company, or a different job. I have been told, that it is hard to negotiate a raise, or a promotion, when they know, that you can't leave. Why are we not demanding, to be paid in cash? Maybe they are paying 5 to 10 dollars, per hour, per employee. If they are, then why are they opposed to "Medicare for All" ? ?”
disabledjim replied on Aug 05, 2009 at 23:01:41
“govt set the current rules that ins companys work under. employer provided healthcare is a dem union idea pushed hard in the 60s.ins comp just followed where they were led.unions pushed the idea of non transferable coverage to keep membership roles high.thats how we got here today.we dont need ins except for catastrophic coverage.m ost normal visits are affordable .you pay more in ins premiums than you would paying for routine office visits.doc tors pass the cost of dealing w/ins comp right on to you.”
Obama Tries To Build Support For Health Care By Promising Less
Commented Aug 02, 2009 at 12:31:33 in Politics
“Part 1 The Health Care Industry as represented by the Insurance Companies have a plan for how they want this issue resolved. The Democratic Congress and President also have a plan, and although, we have heard bits and pieces of the government plan, most people have no idea what they are proposing. The fact that the proposed bill has more than 1000 pages is a bad sign. If the sponsors thought that the American voters would approve, they would be telling us all about it, with pride. Why are these "progressive" Senators, and Congressmen telling us about the need to go slow, and getting it past the right wingers. The first class, in Negotiation 101, teaches that you ask for more than you want, not less, and do it, with the confidence that you will win. They should be telling us, that we now have a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress and we are going to use this opportunity to something that the American people want. Not only give the people what they want, but do it cheaper. Recent polls show 70% of the Americans polled, said they want a Free, Universal, Single payer, not for profit, health care system. We don't need no stinkin, Insurance Companies, and people know it.”
Obama Tries To Build Support For Health Care By Promising Less
Commented Aug 02, 2009 at 12:30:47 in Politics
“Part 2 In the 1950s and 1960s, when medical technology began to keep people alive, longer than the Insurance Industry had planned, they refused to insure those over age 65, which was a common retirement age, at that time. If you left your job, that was the end of your health care insurance. That's why the government created Medicare. Medicare has covered seniors who are relatively high risk, while they left younger healthier people to the private companies. Now it looks like they want the federal government to insure the millions considered 'uninsurable'. Of course they don't want to lose their healthy young people, many of whom never even see a doctor, while their employer, pays a large percentage, of the employees' salary, to this insurance company. Only when the hospital says 'Paid In Full' will they be sure if they were really covered. I suspect that most of those 1000 pages tell us, what we are not going to get. When the right wingers have some input, of course they will make it even worse. "Medicare for All"”
House Health Bill Clears Last Committee Before Floor Vote, Recess
Commented Aug 02, 2009 at 12:27:55 in Politics
“Part 1 The Health Care Industry as represented by the Insurance Companies have a plan for how they want this issue resolved. The Democratic Congress and President also have a plan, and although, we have heard bits and pieces of the government plan, most people have no idea what they are proposing. The fact that the proposed bill has more than 1000 pages is a bad sign. If the sponsors thought that the American voters would approve, they would be telling us all about it, with pride. Why are these "progressive" Senators, and Congressmen telling us about the need to go slow, and getting it past the right wingers. The first class, in Negotiation 101, teaches that you ask for more than you want, not less, and do it, with the confidence that you will win. They should be telling us, that we now have a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress and we are going to use this opportunity to something that the American people want. Not only give the people what they want, but do it cheaper. Recent polls show 70% of the Americans polled, said they want a Free, Universal, Single payer, not for profit, health care system. We don't need no stinkin, Insurance Companies, and people know it.”
House Health Bill Clears Last Committee Before Floor Vote, Recess
Commented Aug 02, 2009 at 12:26:44 in Politics
“Part 2 In the 1950s and 1960s, when medical technology began to keep people alive, longer than the Insurance Industry had planned, they refused to insure those over age 65, which was a common retirement age, at that time. If you left your job, that was the end of your health care insurance. That's why the government created Medicare. Medicare has covered seniors who are relatively high risk, while they left younger healthier people to the private companies. Now it looks like they want the federal government to insure the millions considered 'uninsurable'. Of course they don't want to lose their healthy young people, many of whom never even see a doctor, while their employer, pays a large percentage, of the employees' salary, to this insurance company. Only when the hospital says 'Paid In Full' will they be sure if they were really covered. I suspect that most of those 1000 pages tell us, what we are not going to get. When the right wingers have some input, of course they will make it even worse. "Medicare for All"”
Jonathan Alter: Our Heath-Care System Is Just Fine As Is!
Commented Aug 02, 2009 at 03:07:16 in Politics
“Part 1 The Health Care Industry as represented by the Insurance Companies have a plan for how they want this issue resolved. The Democratic Congress and President also have a plan, and although, we have heard bits and pieces of the government plan, most people have no idea what they are proposing. The fact that the proposed bill has more than 1000 pages is a bad sign. If the sponsors thought that the American voters would approve, they would be telling us all about it, with pride. Why are these "progressive" Senators, and Congressmen telling us about the need to go slow, and getting it past the right wingers. The first class, in Negotiation 101, teaches that you ask for more than you want, not less, and do it, with the confidence that you will win. They should be telling us, that we now have a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress and we are going to use this opportunity to something that the American people want. Not only give the people what they want, but do it cheaper. Recent polls show 70% of the Americans polled, said they want a Free, Universal, Single payer, not for profit, health care system. We don't need no stinkin, Insurance Companies, and people know it.”
Jonathan Alter: Our Heath-Care System Is Just Fine As Is!
Commented Aug 02, 2009 at 03:06:15 in Politics
“Part 2 In the 1950s and 1960s, when medical technology began to keep people alive, longer than the Insurance Industry had planned, they refused to insure those over age 65, which was a common retirement age, at that time. If you left your job, that was the end of your health care insurance. That's why the government created Medicare. Medicare has covered seniors who are relatively high risk, while they left younger healthier people to the private companies. Now it looks like they want the federal government to insure the millions considered 'uninsurable'. Of course they don't want to lose their healthy young people, many of whom never even see a doctor, while their employer, pays a large percentage, of the employees' salary, to this insurance company. Only when the hospital says 'Paid In Full' will they be sure if they were really covered. I suspect that most of those 1000 pages tell us, what we are not going to get. When the right wingers have some input, of course they will make it even worse. "Medicare for All"”
dutchman replied on Aug 02, 2009 at 04:58:43
“That was a truly insightful post. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
It is amazing how the effort so far has managed to further transform something that is conceptually very simply (to insure an entire population, one has only to project the annual costs for ensuring said population, divide it by the number of people therein, adjust the individual amount to reflect risky choices like smoking and snake handling, and voila, there it is. Everyone contributes into a pool that covers them in the event of a medical event. )
Instead of something simple and elegant, though, the US has the most convoluted system of "private" insurance imaginable. All 50 states impose their own rules, which the insurance industry happily plays along with, as the anticompetitive nature of the current system essentially guarantees a "cost plus" model where outrageous overhead and senior level compensation are simply passed on to the consumer.
The US insurance industry has effectively captured the regulatory bodies that are supposed to be working for the people. And in trying to somehow incorporate this leviathan into any reform dooms it to 1000 + page bills that will, if Medicare Part D is any example, will probably manage to make things even worse.”
It is amazing how the effort so far has managed to further transform something that is conceptually very simply (to insure an entire population, one has only to project the annual costs for ensuring said population, divide it by the number of people therein, adjust the individual amount to reflect risky choices like smoking and snake handling, and voila, there it is. Everyone contributes into a pool that covers them in the event of a medical event. )
Instead of something simple and elegant, though, the US has the most convoluted system of "private" insurance imaginable. All 50 states impose their own rules, which the insurance industry happily plays along with, as the anticompetitive nature of the current system essentially guarantees a "cost plus" model where outrageous overhead and senior level compensation are simply passed on to the consumer.
The US insurance industry has effectively captured the regulatory bodies that are supposed to be working for the people. And in trying to somehow incorporate this leviathan into any reform dooms it to 1000 + page bills that will, if Medicare Part D is any example, will probably manage to make things even worse.”
Obama Won't Support Legalizing Marijuana, Says Drug Czar
Commented Jul 26, 2009 at 01:33:11 in Politics
“The people who seem to be most certain about the evils of Marijuana, are the people who will proudly tell you, that they have never used it. They claim to be the experts.Th ey apparently know something the rest of us don't. Some have read about it, some have heard about it, some have even seen it used. I believe that each of us is entitled to an opinion, but we must consider the source of the opinion. Very often the people who tell us that marijuana is bad, are the same people who will tell you that they don't use drugs. Ask them if they drink, smoke cigarettes, drink caffeine, eat sugar, etc. You might also inquire which prescription drugs they take, and why. Ask if they belong to a church, which tells them, which of the above are acceptable for them. Ask if they are free, to express an opinion, that conflicts with their government.”
tck29 replied on Aug 03, 2009 at 15:40:17
“Not only do the people who decide the criminality of marijuana use not use marijuana, but the only scientific evidence ever presented to congress when initially deciding the issue were hysterical propaganda films like Reefer Madness.
Ever known anyone who jumped out a window after smoking a joint? Ever see marijuana use result in maniacal behavior? Is there even ONE documented case of addiction or overdose? Yeah, didn't think so.”
Ever known anyone who jumped out a window after smoking a joint? Ever see marijuana use result in maniacal behavior? Is there even ONE documented case of addiction or overdose? Yeah, didn't think so.”
Quinn Not Opposed To Marijuana Decriminalization Laws
Commented Jul 25, 2009 at 00:25:45 in Chicago
“The people who seem to be most certain about the evils of Marijuana, are the people who will proudly tell you, that they have never used it. They claim to be the experts.Th ey apparently know something the rest of us don't. Some have read about it, some have heard about it, some have even seen it used. I believe that each of us is entitled to an opinion, but we must consider the source of the opinion. Very often the people who tell us that marijuana is bad, are the same people who will tell you that they don't use drugs. Ask them if they drink, smoke cigarettes, drink caffeine, eat sugar, etc. You might also inquire which prescription drugs they take, and why. Ask if they belong to a church, which tells them, which of the above are acceptable for them. Ask if they are free, to express an opinion, that conflicts with their government.”
Crisis: Nearly Five Million Adults Have Lost Insurance Since Sept. '08
Commented Jul 23, 2009 at 00:15:06 in Politics
“The cost of this Obamacare will be high enough,that they will need to subsidize people whose income is under about $88,000 per year.By subsizing the Americans who need to have health care and who earn less than the figure chosen .It will allow our government to keep track of "lower Income people", like most of us. It will allow them to link our financial status to our physical health. With that information they can decide which of us are worth keeping, and in the words of Henry Kissenger, which are the "useless eaters". We heard the President tell us that 2/3 of the money intended for the new program will be from saving and economizing. Not doing needless procedures, useless tests, etc. These are code words for taking away our right to sue for medical malpractice. People sue because of patients who have been killed and maimed. These are not trivial suits. If the MDs don't like being ripped off by the insurance companies they should work it out between themselves, and the Insurance company, and not expect us to give up our rights as American citizens. If they really don't like what the insurance companies are doing, they should join together with millions of their patients, and families, across the country. ***A free, universal, single payer, not-for profit, health care system NOW! *** "Medicare for All'”
justobserve replied on Jul 23, 2009 at 09:59:28
“It's a Catch-22 situation when doctors's fear of being sued led them to order unnecessary tests to cover their ass if something goes wrong. If doctors are really negligent , say, leaving a knife inside patient after surgery, then other laws already cover the negligent action. But if doctors are forced to cover every action, including "mistake" that a normal human being would do the same, then they are still going to be stuck with high malpractice insurance to cover themself and pass the costs to us all.”
The Wrong Reporter Asks Obama A Question
Commented Jul 22, 2009 at 22:23:16 in Media
“The cost of this Obamacare will be high enough,that they will need to subsidize people whose income is under about $88,000 per year.By subsizing the Americans who need to have health care and who earn less than the figure chosen .It will allow our government to keep track of "lower Income people", like most of us. It will allow them to link our financial status to our physical health. With that information they can decide which of us are worth keeping, and in the words of Henry Kissenger, which are the "useless eaters". We heard the President tell us that 2/3 of the money intended for the new program will be from saving and economizing. Not doing needless procedures, useless tests, etc. These are code words for taking away our right to sue for medical malpractice. People sue because of patients who have been killed and maimed. These are not trivial suits. If the MDs don't like being ripped off by the insurance companies they should work it out between themselves, and the Insurance company, and not expect us to give up our rights as American citizens. If they really don't like what the insurance companies are doing, they should join together with millions of their patients, and families, across the country. ***A free, universal, single payer, not-for profit, health care system NOW! *** "Medicare for All'”
jrjones529 replied on Jul 22, 2009 at 23:37:57
“dude, you are paranoid to the point where you believe anything you hear. It's one thing to disagree with the plan on principal and fact based information, it's a whole other to go off on silly rants on a website (this one) where informed people are going to call you out on your lack of credibility.”
armadillious2002 replied on Jul 22, 2009 at 22:54:42
“Hey selfish repub - stick it where the sun don't shine!”
MiddleofAmerica replied on Jul 22, 2009 at 22:50:45
“The Iraqi war could have possibly paid for Obamacare. Don't you think.”
KayDGee replied on Jul 22, 2009 at 22:40:38
“I believe Henry Kissinger was a Republican. Don't be fooled. RIght now, because of Hill-Burton funds, lack of preventive care, etc., the "haves" are already paying for the "have nots". "Needless procedures and useless tests" are required to be able to produce evidence in defending against malpractic e... Needless radiation, pain and innvasive procedures expend additional money to shore up what is a mistake to begin with. The system is devouring itself - or what is left after the thieves ride out of town. If our forefathers had the same intestinal fortitude we now display as a nation in foreward thinking, we would all be crowded into 13 states.”
waldopepper replied on Jul 22, 2009 at 22:30:28
“I didn't read your whole post. I didn't have to.
American's compared to other Western Industrialized nations, live shorter sicker lives. The cost will EASILY be offset by the increased productivity of the workforce. To say nothing of eliminating the cost to the nation of all the bankruptcies driven by crushing medical bills.
WHY CANT YOU SEE THAT! ARE YOU BLIND???”
American's compared to other Western Industrialized nations, live shorter sicker lives. The cost will EASILY be offset by the increased productivity of the workforce. To say nothing of eliminating the cost to the nation of all the bankruptcies driven by crushing medical bills.
WHY CANT YOU SEE THAT! ARE YOU BLIND???”
Obama Has Met At Least 27 Times With Private Health Care Industry Executives
Commented Jul 22, 2009 at 21:44:33 in Politics
“The cost of this Obamacare will be high enough,that they will need to subsidize people whose income is under about $88,000 per year.By subsizing the Americans who need to have health care and who earn less than the figure chosen .It will allow our government to keep track of "lower Income people", like most of us. It will allow them to link our financial status to our physical health. With that information they can decide which of us are worth keeping, and in the words of Henry Kissenger, which are the "useless eaters". We heard the President tell us that 2/3 of the money intended for the new program will be from saving and economizing. Not doing needless procedures, useless tests, etc. These are code words for taking away our right to sue for medical malpractice. People sue because of patients who have been killed and maimed. These are not trivial suits. If the MDs don't like being ripped off by the insurance companies they should work it out between themselves, and the Insurance company, and not expect us to give up our rights as American citizens. If they really don't like what the insurance companies are doing, they should join together with millions of their patients, and families, across the country. ***A free, universal, single payer, not-for profit, health care system NOW! *** "Medicare for All'”
RepugsOut08 replied on Jul 22, 2009 at 22:00:26
“Single payer! The only sane solution.”
Labsaregreat replied on Jul 22, 2009 at 21:51:09
“who are you going to sue then”
Coleman For Governor? Discussions Underway In GOP
Commented Jul 03, 2009 at 01:31:22 in Politics
“In 1998 Coleman lost to a professional wrestler, Jesse ' The Body ' Ventura, now he lost to a professional comedian, Al Franken.. Does Coleman see a pattern here? I can't wait to see who he loses to next time.”
Ralph Nader Accuses Terry McAuliffe Of Offering To Pay Him To Pull Out Of States In 2004 Election
Commented Jun 09, 2009 at 20:32:52 in Politics
“If Ralph Nader was elected in 2000 or in 2004, we would not be in the mess that we are in now! For those who have forgotten, the Supreme Court with a 5 to 4 vote, ordered the State of Florida to stop counting the votes, while George W. Bush was ahead, thereby choosing Bush. If all votes were counted, Al Gore would have been the president. We may not have liked it, but who could we complain to? There have been voting irregularities in the last several national elections, across the country. The candidate with the most corporate money and support wins. Is it any wonder, that the candidates keep moving to the right, even while the people move to the left. We need more candidates like Ralph Nader, and less candidates like Terry McAuliffe. For more details on what happened here RebelRepor ts.com had a great article on it.
http://reb elreports. com/post/1 14856537/t erry-mcaul iffes-atte mpt-to-bri be-ralph-n ader-is”
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