“I took 8th grade history. They don't pay at the poll, they pay beforehand. I understand your point, but not why the Left is so against it? It costs the same to both sides. ”
mmiller459 on Aug 1, 2012 at 19:36:51
“Well, the point is that the wealthy tend to have ID already in the form of drivers licenses. The poor tend to take public transportation and may not have an ID, so a law like this disproportionately affects those on the margins of society. If the State puts free ID-issuing stations near where people can get to them and provide IDs free of charge, then the problem is moot.
And honestly, the Left is against it because most of the folks who would be kept off the voter rolls because of these types of laws are those who would vote left. The right knows this and that is why they are trying to promulgate such laws. It is voter suppression with no good reason behind it, especially since in Pennsylvania the AG actually stipulated that there has not been voter fraud for decades. So why do they think they need such a law? Because the radical right wing of the GOP is trying to keep the poor and minorities from voting.
If we keep any group from polling, then the vote itself cannot be called accurate because it does not reflect everyone's vote, and in turn that calls into question the legitimacy of the government itself.”
“Wow...wonderful news! In an election year, too. What a coincidence, right?
Where are all the Liberals in this comment section? Oh yeah hiding away in the dark. Huffington Post finally made the Left look like idiots. I call it a taste of their own medicine, at least on HP.”
chatnuptime1 on Aug 1, 2012 at 05:09:23
“Really? And just how do you arrive at this peice of logic spock? What does this news of Obama's heritage have to do with Democrats hiding in the dark?”
shieldvulf on Jul 31, 2012 at 23:26:30
“This liberal, for one, was out knocking on doors in country club neighborhoods and asking people what they think of Romney. Some are mad and slam the door, but a lot of folks today were just worried, for the country, that this fatuous, empty suit could be handed real power, and they were glad to talk. We didn't ask for money or signatures, or even their names, though they may get a piece of mail or two, just before the election.
These are educated people, of course, and the ones who had read about this announcement appreciated the poetry of it, the sense of a full circle being drawn. They smiled when we talked about that.
So, intelligent, educated, urban Republicans are not exactly Randy for Romney, not in my city, and so where?
BTW, those words you wrote really are incoherent. You forgot to say what about the news you find "wonderful." So everything else is incomprehensible.
Me, I found the story interesting, appreciated the probabilities, and it doesn't change a thing here and now. So, "wonderful?"”
DocSkull on Jul 31, 2012 at 21:37:05
“I get it, the Spock icon is ironic.”
connor12345 on Jul 31, 2012 at 21:21:00
“Did you just drool on the keyboard?”
Janet Stockey Swanborn on Jul 31, 2012 at 21:13:47
“How does this make the left look like idiots?”
Beccs on Jul 31, 2012 at 20:57:58
“Well, there's a load of spewed nonsense if ever I've seen one.”
“Why is it that even when the IDs are offered free to extremely cheap ($5) people are still complaining. If anything, it would raise a small amount for the state. What is to stop a democrat from getting an ID than a Republican?”
ReformedRepublican on Jul 31, 2012 at 20:11:20
“Cheap is not free. Cheap constitutes you having to PAY for an ID in order to vote, thus being a poll tax, which is unconstitutional. Cheap does not take into account the potential cost of obtaining documents, like a birth certificate, in order to qualify, thus constituting a poll tax.
In the past, in PA, the County Elections Bureau would send every registered voter a FREE id card, without a photo, in the mail. Absent such a card, a voter could appear with a Social Security Card, not a photo ID which, ironically, can be used to GET a photo ID, and a utility bill, not a photo ID, which, ironically, can be used to GET a photo ID. Using the past system, there has not been a single case of reported voter fraud, statewide, including Philadelphia.
With the statement from the Republican House Majority Leader that the Voter ID Law constituted an accomplishment by the Republicans that would carry the election for Romney, there can be no other conclusion that the new law WILL disenfranchise voters and significantly more Democrats than Republicans.
Voter photo ID is not a bad idea if there is sufficient lead time and options to prevent disenfranchisement. This law provides neither.”
mmiller459 on Jul 31, 2012 at 20:04:16
“Because any fee that one has to pay in order to vote is a "poll tax." These poll taxes were used in the good old days of Jim Crow to keep blacks from voting. The Supremes declared poll taxes unconstitutional and illegal decades ago.”
ernestvalerius on Jul 31, 2012 at 20:02:55
britiishtroops1954 on Jul 31, 2012 at 20:02:26
that's what kept Jimmy Steward and Hendry Fonda friends,
“As soon as I see this on television news, I will believe it. Even MSNBC, I trust them more than HP sometimes. Don't worry Liberals, I do watch the news on a regular basis. I even turn on MSNBC for laughs sometimes.”
Timothy Andersson on Jul 31, 2012 at 17:57:00
“Conservatives can't be Star Trek fans, it stands for everything they are against.”
Scribe57 on Jul 31, 2012 at 17:53:43
“You watch the news, but decide in advance what is true or not. So why bother watching?”
“Even if gun control is enforced, who is to say that the next killer won't buy an AK-47 from mexico, the black market, or build a bomb. Should we ban household chemicals and fireworks? People won't relinquish their gun easily. Myself included.”
NefariousLord on Jul 31, 2012 at 13:53:26
“Exactly. And disarming the sheep only makes them easier to eat.”
sangog on Jul 31, 2012 at 10:24:29
“That argument might work if we all didn't know that all those AK-47's are from the U.S. This fantasy everyone has about all these patriotic 2nd amendment folks defending freedom and democracy is just that, fantasy. Many (not all) are defending their right to make a profit off of death and blood. They sell weapons to anyone that will pay for them sans background checks. First thing that has to go is the fantasy world created by the NRA and the self-centered gun runners using "patriotic" buffoons as cover.”
Just Capital on Jul 31, 2012 at 09:51:11
“That argument would mean we would have no laws at all. Are you saying we should not outlaw things because people will do them anyway? Then why would we ever tell people they cannot rob banks, murder people, drive drunk, etc., etc.? Oh, and remind me the last time someone killed a dozen people with fireworks. Your comparison between guns which are made to kill as many people as possible in a short period of time and household chemicals and fireworks is a false equivalency. If you cannot see the difference than I pity you.”
“Wow! That will secure the black vote! Oh wait, he already got 96% of blacks who voted to vote for him. Nevermind!”
Ferrariqx on Jul 31, 2012 at 09:34:52
“....and we're voting for his re-election too! After the KK.... I mean Palin rallies of '08 what else would you expect of us? There is no way that we will align ourselves with a party that also caters to hate groups like the KKK and the Aryan Brotherhood.
blogger 123 on Jul 31, 2012 at 09:33:44
“Hey, I'm voting for him! Well I personaly am not, as I'm only 11... But my mom, sisters, grandma, and cousins will be voting for him!”
“When I read this I realized I was looking which president would take the blame. Then I realized no matter who was president at the time, it still is unacceptable. If it was Bush, I would have defended this. If it was Obama, I would have criticized him for it. Switch it around and you get the Liberals argument, too. Don't try and deny that either.
Anyway, the entire point of this comment was to put this FACT out there, and how wrong it is. Hopefully, the next generation of voters will be more open minded than all of us. Then again, they could all join the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street movement.”
“His show is unbearable. He isn't even funny, it's like giving a British pedophile a TV show. What is he going to do next, insult her child with Down Syndrome?
At least she showed that she and her family are wonderful people by keeping the baby, and not denying it life because of it's illness. Most of us wouldn't want to have to have a child born with a mental illness. God bless them all.”
traceymarie on Jul 30, 2012 at 12:15:44
“there is nothing decent or wonderful about that pack”
calimom123 on Jul 30, 2012 at 12:10:26
“Your family, on the other hand, seems perfectly fine having a relative with mental illness.”
“Funny how even though they claimed support for traditional marriage, they still get attacked the Left. They didn't say, "Gays are disgusting and should be thrown in jail.", they said they support marriage in point of view of the bible. 30 years ago and this wouldn't be in the news at all.”
Gary Bradski on Jul 29, 2012 at 01:28:35
“And 60 years ago, no one thought anything about making blacks sit in the back of the bus (except maybe the blacks). It wouldn't have been news. And before that slavery was propped up by the bible, and before that genocide against your enemies: fine. What's your point? Progress is being made?”
Sassi-squatch on Jul 29, 2012 at 01:25:57
“30 years ago you could be an open bigot and close-minded religious person, yep.”
mflorian on Jul 29, 2012 at 01:25:03
“30 years ago they'd be saying how unnatural interracial marriage was.”
fusillijerry on Jul 29, 2012 at 01:24:49
“That's why they call it progress.”
joemondo on Jul 29, 2012 at 01:21:53
“Actually, they've said worse through theFamily Research Council and the other hate groups they fund.”
greatdanefamily on Jul 29, 2012 at 01:20:27
Thirty years ago, you wouldn't be able to make benighted statements on the internet.”
“If it should be legal to marry the one that you love, why can't it be legal to marry your sister?”
SGillLondonUK on Jul 29, 2012 at 07:54:05
“For the same reason its illegal for people like Todd Palin to get their daughters pregnant....”
weirdremaynard on Jul 29, 2012 at 01:33:29
“Because if you had a child with your sister it would have loads of physical problems? Comparing same-sex marriage to that is annoying. And in the bible there were actually a few incestuous relationships, so should you be lobbying for the right to marry your sis? But in this SECULAR nation, your religious beliefs should not dictate the lives of others. Deal with it.”
PhilPredicta on Jul 29, 2012 at 01:11:00
“You seem to be the result of such a marriage.”
Punisher Man on Jul 29, 2012 at 01:05:53
“That is next and then the liberals will want us to marry children too.”