ThunderclapNewman's Comments (46052)
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 10:35:20 in World
“Monumentally wrong.”
TomPaine07 replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 10:38:40
“Explain.
The facts are there.”
The facts are there.”
rabiddog6708 replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 10:38:20
“An overstatement to be sure, but not completely off base. Still in Iraq.....still in Afghanistan.....Gitm0 still open...still using secret pris0ns over seas.....Patriot Act still backed by current admin.....still not signing onto anti-landmine treaty......still same economic gurus running policy......”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 10:33:00 in World
“The amnesia is all yours.
The Afghan war isn't Obama's---Bush began it, neglected it, and left it for Obama to clean up.
There was no valid reason to invade Iraq---a nation which posed ZERO threat to the US.
You lack even the most rudimentary understanding of the issues, or you would not post such overweening nitwittery.”
The Afghan war isn't Obama's---Bush began it, neglected it, and left it for Obama to clean up.
There was no valid reason to invade Iraq---a nation which posed ZERO threat to the US.
You lack even the most rudimentary understanding of the issues, or you would not post such overweening nitwittery.”
rollingdivision replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 11:14:15
“Thunderclapnewman my post is not a defense of Bush's surge in Iraq, but rather pointing out the hippocrasy of progressives in now supporting obama's Afghan War. How do you defend obama's choice to escalate the Afghan War??”
Marcospinelli replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 10:51:08
“You're awfully generous with our national treasure there, Newman.
By all accounts, there is no "cleaning up" possible. We're throwing good money and lives after bad, staving off the inevitable. Those who pose a threat to US security aren't there.
You make a tired argument, based on what Obama would have done 2 years ago. For Obama to be sending more troops to Afghanistan to fight the Bush-Cheney 'war on terror' would be like FDR sending troops to the battle of Arnheim in 1945 after it was lost (and a dismal failure) in 1944.
(WWII, Operation Market Garden - http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/battle_arnhem_01.shtml)
We know a heII of a lot more now about the true state of our national security and where and what the threat really is.
It's interesting that this is the only campaign pledge of Obama's that he's keeping. Every other one has been broken because of lame excuse like, "We're NOT starting from scratch", etc. How long is it going to take Obama's most ardent admirers to realize that he's a 'Company' man now, a continuation of the Bush-Cheney administration's policies. Just about every last one of them. You know you didn't vote for that.
Only the 'now' matters, and this is the wrong decision for now. It goes completely against the Obama doctrine, for what US foreign policy should be around the world. So Obama's even going against his own positions.”
By all accounts, there is no "cleaning up" possible. We're throwing good money and lives after bad, staving off the inevitable. Those who pose a threat to US security aren't there.
You make a tired argument, based on what Obama would have done 2 years ago. For Obama to be sending more troops to Afghanistan to fight the Bush-Cheney 'war on terror' would be like FDR sending troops to the battle of Arnheim in 1945 after it was lost (and a dismal failure) in 1944.
(WWII, Operation Market Garden - http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/battle_arnhem_01.shtml)
We know a heII of a lot more now about the true state of our national security and where and what the threat really is.
It's interesting that this is the only campaign pledge of Obama's that he's keeping. Every other one has been broken because of lame excuse like, "We're NOT starting from scratch", etc. How long is it going to take Obama's most ardent admirers to realize that he's a 'Company' man now, a continuation of the Bush-Cheney administration's policies. Just about every last one of them. You know you didn't vote for that.
Only the 'now' matters, and this is the wrong decision for now. It goes completely against the Obama doctrine, for what US foreign policy should be around the world. So Obama's even going against his own positions.”
PerfectSense replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 10:36:42
“There was no valid reason to invade Iraq.
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Biden, Clinton and Kerry vehemently disagree with you.”
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Biden, Clinton and Kerry vehemently disagree with you.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 10:29:12 in World
“Wow!
Great comment.”
Great comment.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:35:22 in World
“He's a conservative.
Conservatives hate.
Period.”
Conservatives hate.
Period.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:33:58 in World
“Off-topic, boring, and repetitive.”
Tom Joad replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:35:03
“yes”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:32:44 in World
“I got quite a chuckle out of it myself.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:32:04 in World
“That's it in a nutshell.
The right will oppose Obama, viscerally, because he is Obama, because he is a Democrat, because he is black, and because they lost.
It doesn't matter what he proposes---they will oppose it.”
The right will oppose Obama, viscerally, because he is Obama, because he is a Democrat, because he is black, and because they lost.
It doesn't matter what he proposes---they will oppose it.”
BMcCue7 replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:36:01
“They have certainly provided no evidence to the contrary.”
gladys46 replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:35:58
“They are sooo insensed for those very reasons ... they STOP thinking .. hallelujah !!!”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:30:03 in World
“Off-topic, and very boring.”
demrepub replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:36:03
“I'm laughing at you out loud.”
demrepub replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:31:51
“You asked for the link. Now you got it and your best response is "boring". lol......”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:28:43 in World
“Scahill's book will scare the pants off you.”
peacekitten replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:36:50
“or make you bl0w a gasket completely.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:28:17 in World
“The name you mention is the source of may of the heavy-handed decisions from the front office.
I beleive we used to call that "being on a power trip."”
I beleive we used to call that "being on a power trip."”
LeftWingBeagle replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:30:13
“yep”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:26:40 in World
“Have a great day, MA.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:24:11 in World
“Not even close.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:23:05 in World
“So very true.
The state of knowledge of our own national history by students, and by adults, is appalling.
The lest well-informed are the conservatives who are addicted to ClusterFox.”
The state of knowledge of our own national history by students, and by adults, is appalling.
The lest well-informed are the conservatives who are addicted to ClusterFox.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:21:33 in World
“Wrong again.
Just like always.”
Just like always.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:20:59 in World
“Obama is not using Bush's plan for anything.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:20:37 in World
“Nope.
I never agree with Iiars.”
I never agree with Iiars.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:20:07 in World
“Liar.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:17:45 in World
“Thanks for proving my point, yet again.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:16:31 in World
“There is no conspiracy to squelch anything about climate change.”
demrepub replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:21:38
“Well then explain the absolute silence of the MSM on this? I can't wait to read this -:)”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:15:53 in World
“Link?
Or did this come from your hindquarters, like all your other comments?”
Or did this come from your hindquarters, like all your other comments?”
marshhen replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:27:31
“http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6945445.ece
The Met Office plans to re-examine 160 years of temperature data after admitting that public confidence in the science on man-made global warming has been shattered by leaked e-mails.
The new analysis of the data will take three years, meaning that the Met Office will not be able to state with absolute confidence the extent of the warming trend until the end of 2012.”
The Met Office plans to re-examine 160 years of temperature data after admitting that public confidence in the science on man-made global warming has been shattered by leaked e-mails.
The new analysis of the data will take three years, meaning that the Met Office will not be able to state with absolute confidence the extent of the warming trend until the end of 2012.”
demrepub replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:23:32
“moonbats have no ability to do their own research. TCN you are amazingly simplistic.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:15:28 in World
“Nope.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:13:47 in World
“Just stay under your bed, wetting yourself in fear.
No such thing is going to occur.”
No such thing is going to occur.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:11:34 in World
“It's not an empire, skippy.
It's an exercise in group democracy.”
It's an exercise in group democracy.”
Waxer replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:29:10
“EU is a m@rx-ists empire.”
Waxer replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:19:44
“It's an exercise of group marxism!”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:10:29 in World
“Your comments are remarkable for two things---their intellectual dishonest, and the high levels of hatred they contain.”
SpookyTwo replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:15:00
“Coal-in-Stocking for you this year - while you're wearing it.”
Afghanistan Withdrawal Date: 'Flexible' Or 'Locked In'?
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 09:07:05 in World
“More BS on a stick.”
SpookyTwo replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:12:58
“How so? In a million words or less.”
demrepub replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 09:11:29
“Your typical response signals I am definitely on the right track. Thanks for the validation.”


