“Yes, the plan is filled with flowery language to cover the FACT that the top tax bracket would be reduced from the already too low of 35% to the incredibly insane 25% and at the same time would increase the taxation of the already shrinking middle class and ever broadening working poor. It relies on the US achieving an unemployment rate of 4% by 2015, dropping to an absurdly low 2.8% thereafter, when the national average is 5%. This was all pulled from a widely discredited Heritage Foundation report that even the most conservative economists call a ridiculous fantasy. The vague language about closing non-specific "loopholes" can't make up for the amount of revenue that will be lost, which is why the plan was roundly rejected by more than 80% of the electorate. And the dirtiest little secret - even as it kills Medicare and begins privatizing Social Security, the Ryan plan actually INCREASES the debt, never eradicating the deficit.
“The Ryan Wealthcare budget plan called for cutting the top tax bracket from 35% to 25%. You're right, it wouldn't be $1 TRILLION. According to the CBO analysis of Ryan's budget plan, it would be closer to $1.72 TRILLION for the top 2%:
"it offers $1.72 trillion in tax breaks for top earners and corporations while cutting $1.65 trillion from Medicare."
Oh, and that reduction of the top tax bracket from 35% to 25% is on top of making the Bush tax cuts permanent, so it would really be more like $4.2 TRILLION in tax cuts for the top 2%:
"The latest and most-hyped among the conservative budget plans is Congressman Paul Ryan's. Ryan's budget plan proposes $4.3 trillion in cuts to programs for the needy with one hand and then gives $4.2 trillion in tax cuts to the wealthy with the other."
“Tell that to THE 80% of Americans who stood up and said NO to the Ryan Wealthcare budget looking to eradicate Medicare and Social Security in order to give billionaires another $1 TRILLION in tax cuts. We the people are the government as long as we live in a constitutional republic, as proven by the people's uprising in Wisconsin and the recall elections which will soon return the Wisconsin legislature to Democratic control and the recall which will unseat the Koch's lackey Walker in 2012. There are certain things the government does much better, less expensively and more efficiently than private for-profit companies. Slapping the label "Big Government" on a successful programs which need regular legislative maintenance, not eradication, may work briefly, but then once the people see that the private sector cannot compete with these programs, cooler heads prevail and the necessary adjustments are made. The dinosaurs are the Reagan worshipers who want to demonize all government programs and privatize everything.”
“Ending the Bush tax cuts won't completely wipe out the deficit over night, but it will cut more off the deficit than ANY of the proposed cuts by the pubs, and the Progressive Caucus' People's Budget Plan is the ONLY budget plan that will eradicate the deficit, AND it doesn't cut Social Security or Medicare.”
Quoting the tax rates without understanding all the changes is wrong to do:
"Individual tax reform: The current code for individuals is too complicated, with high marginal rates that discourage growth. This budget embraces the widely acknowledged principles of pro-growth tax reform by proposing to consolidate tax brackets and lower tax rates, with a top rate of 25 percent, while clearing out the burdensome
tangle of loopholes that distort economic activity"”
harveyr2 on May 31, 2011 at 08:48:12
“"$1 TRILLION in tax cuts" Really. How many billionaires do you think there are? Just because they are worth a billion dollars does not mean their income approaches anything near that amount.
Do the math. $1 trillion is 1,000 billions. We don't have 1,000 billionaires on the planet. $1 trillion is 1,000,000 millions. Do you really think there are one million people in the US that make enough over $1,000,000 that the government can take $1,000,000 from them for taxes???”
harveyr2 on May 30, 2011 at 20:21:09
“You're living in a fantasy. Large government is going the way of the dinosaur.”
“"..independents are fleeing Obama and the Democrats."
WRONG! More than 80% of the American people, even a majority of pubs, have said NO! to the Ryan Wealthcare budget plan.”
SkannerConstant on May 30, 2011 at 17:23:30
“I love that term! The Democrats support Health Care -- the Republicans run on a platform of WealthCare. Sums it up well! Thanks.”
harveyr2 on May 30, 2011 at 17:09:11
“There is plenty of time before 2012 to teach the sheeple. If you support the status quo that's fine with me. I know that our path is not sustainable and increasing taxes on the rich will not solve the problem”
“But when I listen to FOX Noise they say people making more than $250,000 a year are just ordinary working joes who the liberals want to tax to death, but at the same time public union teachers making less than $40,000 are greedy chiselers and even though they make LESS than their private sector counterparts with comparable level of education and experience, less is supposed to somehow add up to too much because the Kochs said so. Oh, this bagger math is so confusing. No wonder you guys have such an aversion to education.”
May 28, 2011 at 06:01:55
“FACT: Rumsfeld has major holdings in the drug company that marketed the swine flu vaccine, which made BILLIONS when the Bush administration blew the threat out of proportion. If swine flu really had been as infectious and severe as the Bush administration claimed, it would have spread like wildfire and killed millions because distribution of the vaccine was delayed. But it didn't. Not because the people were vaccinated in time - an overwhelming majority of the US and global populations (including those considered most vulnerable) weren't vaccinated. This isn't opinion, this is documented FACT.
And there are plenty more sources where these came from. PROVE ME WRONG.”
Philimanjaro on May 28, 2011 at 20:46:00
“Nobody is questioning whether or not somebody made bank. The point is you're making leaps in logic.”
bayonet division on May 28, 2011 at 07:14:55
“I wasn't in the back room with any of these guys, so I can't prove anything, beyond thinking it was overblown at the time and not rushing out for a vaccination. As I recall, it was the WHO that was fanning the flames.”
May 28, 2011 at 03:05:05
“Gee, maybe it's because Bush, whose right hand man Rumsfeld's pharmaceutical company made BILLIONS off the swine flu vaccine, isn't in a position of power to hype the panic and line his crony's pockets anymore.”
bayonet division on May 28, 2011 at 07:11:28
“Bush and Global Climate Change...two things that y'all can plug into most anything you see fit, I guess.”
Philimanjaro on May 28, 2011 at 05:02:36
“Yeah... You're right... Anytime someone gets sick- its probably Bush's fault. We can blame him for a lot... so why not just blame him for everything?”
“Too bad the FACTS don't support your theory. Quite to the contrary of your outlandish accusation, the decline in employee pay and benefits in the US private sector can be linked directly to the decline in union membership and influence. Check the graph - the red line is the union membership rate, and the blue line is middle class income:
“In answer to your request for a transcript, if you click on the words "homophobic stand-up set", it will open a link to an article which includes Mr. Morgan's quotes. That's why the words are highlighted in a different color (red on my screen, possibly different depending on your computer's settings) to indicate a link to more information on the words or phrase highlighted. With regard to your comments about whether or not something is funny depends on context and timing, I think one of the primary things that falls under the heading of context is the general social status of the people or person who are the butt of the joke, sometimes in relation to the comic telling the joke or in relation to society in general. A rule of thumb among most comedians who have achieved popularity is the axiom "always punch up, not down". While there are plenty of successful, powerful and wealthy gay men & lesbians, there are also thousands of gay & lesbian teens committing suicide, thrown out by their parents, REALLY being beaten and even killed by intolerant people, often their own family members. Mr. Morgan punched down in his act, and that is why it was not funny to people with a sense of empathy.”
swsunshinebaby on Jun 16, 2011 at 02:35:48
“That's what I'm referring to and that's not really a transcript. There's actually very few quotes in there and a lot of paraphrasing. A lot of things that make people laugh in one context don't sound funny when they're told another way.
Lots of comedians use minority groups as the butt of their jokes, but it's the context that determines whether or not you should take it literally. Lisa Lampenelli says some awful things about...well, just about everyone and she has a following in every minority group she insults. Because although her words look despicable on the page, when she does her act, you know that she actually loves the people she makes fun of.”
“Just like your lard and master Christie, the facts don't support your ridiculous claims. According to a new national poll of registered voters by Fairleigh Dickinson University’s PublicMindTM, Chris Christie would LOSE to President Obama by SIXTEEN (16) points (34% to Obama's 50%). And in New Jersey where the public knows more about this corpulent bully, Christie would LOSE to Obama even more. Face it, a wicker furniture offers Chris Christie more support than the good people of New Jersey.”
“And the AOL tabloidization of HP continues. What's next? Cover stories on bat boy or the cookie diet? How about the one with the picture of embracing skeletons inside a life ring with "TITANIC" stenciled on it, or President Obama shaking hands with a space alien?”
“CEOs and boards of directors whose only job is figuring out ways to squeeze more work out their employees for lower salaries while paying themselves millions and giving themselves millions more in bonuses each year are working clas heroes while teachers and nurses making less than $50K are greedy union slugs. Get real.”
“The problem is that the corporate overlords have pushed wages and the standard of living for working Americans so low, that you consider a living wage, health care and a well-earned pension after a lifetime of work "more" than anyone should be entitled to. Instead of resenting and trying to take away the benefits public union employees opted for in exchange for spending their entire careers earning LESS in wages than their peers in the private sector, you should be demanding the same benefits for yourself. And how do workers get ANY benefits? By UNIONIZING and utilizing collective bargaining. CEOs pocketing an average of 400 to 600 times your salary and racking up tens to hundreds of millions in bonuses every year tell you the company can't afford to pay you 5% to 8% more and to put that 5% to 8% into a trust fund investing in AAA rated bonds that will mature and compound into a small but secure pension by the time you retire, and that you should resent anyone who has secured such benefits for themselves. Millionaire and billionaire CEO's are just hard workers while teachers and nurses making less than $50K are greedy. Go figure.”