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Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Dec 07, 2009 at 08:38:05 in Politics
“The modern day NRA peddles fear and mines ignorance. Just like Bush/Cheney/Rove and the modern day Republican Party. Maybe that’s why the NRA has turned into a shill for the Repugs. Odie and mike102 -- you should read LaPierre so you can gain an understanding of the organization that you so blindly follow. Yes --- LaPierre speaks for the NRA ---- it’s his job to do so.”
Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 13:53:29 in Politics
“You are correct .. I don't believe it. Your response... as usual... is pure, fabricated antithesis for the sake of being so.
If you find LaPierre to be prone to hyperbole then let's hear it.”
If you find LaPierre to be prone to hyperbole then let's hear it.”
Virginia Tech Survivor With Hidden Camera Films Dangerous Gun Sales at Gun Shows
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 13:05:01 in Politics
“"....you imagine conspiracies, you demonize us..."
Read any Wayne LaPierre articles recently?
Pulleeezz !!”
Read any Wayne LaPierre articles recently?
Pulleeezz !!”
Thirdpower replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 20:05:59
“Except when he doesn't. Which is usually.”
mike102 replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 05:22:21
“All I ever read from Wayne was on the BC website, or right here on Huffpo.
Toon, it's not nice to accuse people of lying with nothing to back it up.
The NRA has 3 or 4 million members. There are some 80 million gun owners in the US, most of whom probably don't even know who Wayne La Pierre is.”
Toon, it's not nice to accuse people of lying with nothing to back it up.
The NRA has 3 or 4 million members. There are some 80 million gun owners in the US, most of whom probably don't even know who Wayne La Pierre is.”
mike102 replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 14:39:52
“Howdy Tune! Happy Holidays.
All I know of what Wayne has to say, is what I read on these blogs, from the opposition.
"Word to your mother".”
All I know of what Wayne has to say, is what I read on these blogs, from the opposition.
"Word to your mother".”
Toonadude replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 14:32:46
“I have a knack for spotting things that are fabricated for pure effect, Odie.
A story... a response ... a persona..........”
A story... a response ... a persona..........”
OdinsEye replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 14:14:43
“Bottom line is that you and DW probably read more of what Wayne writes than I do.”
OdinsEye replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 14:05:03
“More like your lame attampt at an insult was purely fabricated. Grow up, toon.”
Toonadude replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 13:53:29
“You are correct .. I don't believe it. Your response... as usual... is pure, fabricated antithesis for the sake of being so.
If you find LaPierre to be prone to hyperbole then let's hear it.”
If you find LaPierre to be prone to hyperbole then let's hear it.”
OdinsEye replied on Dec 03, 2009 at 13:26:48
“I am sure you won't believe it, but I rarely pay attention to Wayne or read things he writes. Your intended insult falls flat.”
Handgun Crowd Returns Fire Post Fort Hood -- No Surprise Here
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 14:02:56 in Politics
“"No, it is a call for the bureaucracy to use the tools they routinely throw away."
Sounds like the law enforcement agencies are overstaffed then. Perhaps a reduction in force and accompanying tax cut are in order. It's the Republican thing to do and, accordingly, would receive the full support of the NRA. Taxpayers shouldn't be expected to wait for any change in enforcement approach that may never come.”
Sounds like the law enforcement agencies are overstaffed then. Perhaps a reduction in force and accompanying tax cut are in order. It's the Republican thing to do and, accordingly, would receive the full support of the NRA. Taxpayers shouldn't be expected to wait for any change in enforcement approach that may never come.”
Handgun Crowd Returns Fire Post Fort Hood -- No Surprise Here
Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 11:59:54 in Politics
“"We assert that we do not need more regulation - what we need is better enforcement."
This sounds like a call to staff up the bureaucracy. That means more taxes. For a generation now, one of the two main political parties has sold their rot on the platform of “We can serve all of your concerns best…..but with no new taxes.” .. and there appears to be no shortage of lemmings who buy into it. The NRA dutifully serves in its role as a shill for this same political party by endorsing just about all of its national level candidates for elected office. There appears to be a disconnect here.”
This sounds like a call to staff up the bureaucracy. That means more taxes. For a generation now, one of the two main political parties has sold their rot on the platform of “We can serve all of your concerns best…..but with no new taxes.” .. and there appears to be no shortage of lemmings who buy into it. The NRA dutifully serves in its role as a shill for this same political party by endorsing just about all of its national level candidates for elected office. There appears to be a disconnect here.”
Fort Hood Shooting: 1 Disturbed Man, 1 Gun, 13 Dead, 30 Wounded
Commented Nov 11, 2009 at 07:25:34 in Politics
“I'm still waiting for dj or even you, mike102, " to document that: " ..all of the proRKBA people here support birth control and abortion rights." I challenged Odie to take up the issue with dj for making a such broad, unsupported claim but, as usual, when called on something it was off to another RKBA-related site to run through the "assault weapon / assault rifle -- one pull/one bang -- hey look at my curriculum vitae" rant that the gullible, NRA-worshipping lemmings have come to expect.”
Fort Hood Shooting: 1 Disturbed Man, 1 Gun, 13 Dead, 30 Wounded
Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 14:16:07 in Politics
“Sorry, but I don't see where you challenged dj to support his claim that ALL proRKBA people support the issue. Maybe it was moderated out as I'm certain you would have questioned such a broad, unsupported claim even if it was being made by a proRKBA person ---- correct?”
Fort Hood Shooting: 1 Disturbed Man, 1 Gun, 13 Dead, 30 Wounded
Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 14:04:36 in Politics
“I could not care less as to your personal views on the subject. I was pointing out dj's broad, unsupported-by-facts statement ("ALL of the proRKBA people") and I know how you must step up to refute such statements when they are offered by anti-RKBA people. I guess I "failed" to realize that you have two standards for the truth.”
Fort Hood Shooting: 1 Disturbed Man, 1 Gun, 13 Dead, 30 Wounded
Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 17:47:36 in Politics
“Sorry --- to be more precise, consult the law enforcement officials in Kenedy County, Texas.”
Fort Hood Shooting: 1 Disturbed Man, 1 Gun, 13 Dead, 30 Wounded
Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 17:18:44 in Politics
“Consult Dick Cheney as to the applicability of the law to high gov't officials.”
djcrsn replied on Nov 09, 2009 at 16:56:43
“Tuna--I assume you have proof of your claims--or is it your CDS speaking”
djcrsn replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 20:52:11
“TUnafud--get over yourself--unless of course you have proof that Cheney's bodyguard facilitated CHeney's breaking the law”
Toonadude replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 17:47:36
“Sorry --- to be more precise, consult the law enforcement officials in Kenedy County, Texas.”
Sivispacemparabellum replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 17:32:30
“And your point is ?
Not to mention I would hardly consider Mike Bloomberg to be a " high government official " , more like a legend in his own mind. Even so , my question was if Truth Wins was suggesting that its ok for Govt officials to break the law , something you nor he have bothered to answer”
Not to mention I would hardly consider Mike Bloomberg to be a " high government official " , more like a legend in his own mind. Even so , my question was if Truth Wins was suggesting that its ok for Govt officials to break the law , something you nor he have bothered to answer”
Fort Hood Shooting: 1 Disturbed Man, 1 Gun, 13 Dead, 30 Wounded
Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 17:06:41 in Politics
“"...all of the proRKBA people here support birth control and abortion rights."
Actually, quite a number of proRKBA people here oppose birth control and abortion rights.
( I know Odie's shoes are quite large but I tried my best to pinch hit for him here, dj.)”
Actually, quite a number of proRKBA people here oppose birth control and abortion rights.
( I know Odie's shoes are quite large but I tried my best to pinch hit for him here, dj.)”
DreamerWeaver replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 13:01:31
“Toonadude:
RKBA Protest Signs
Slogans for the Hearts and Minds
GUN LAWS HURT
LAW-ABIDING
CITIZENS
Abortion and Guns:
Same Rights,
Same Choice.
FIREARMS
EQUAL
FREEDOM
Love your Freedom?
Thank a gun!
Protect our
Freedom for
THE CHILDREN!
REGISTRATION
LEADS TO
CONFISCATION
Many
Misled
Moms
HEARTS_AND_MINDS/RKBA_Sign_Slogans.pdf”
RKBA Protest Signs
Slogans for the Hearts and Minds
GUN LAWS HURT
LAW-ABIDING
CITIZENS
Abortion and Guns:
Same Rights,
Same Choice.
FIREARMS
EQUAL
FREEDOM
Love your Freedom?
Thank a gun!
Protect our
Freedom for
THE CHILDREN!
REGISTRATION
LEADS TO
CONFISCATION
Many
Misled
Moms
HEARTS_AND_MINDS/RKBA_Sign_Slogans.pdf”
DreamerWeaver replied on Nov 11, 2009 at 01:56:19
“To assist with a little research:
Berettasskeeter on HuffingtonPost
Retired Marine. Current Customs Officer. Strongly Conservative. Pro-gun, Pro-life, Pro-death penalty. Anti-Communist, Anti-Socialist, Anti-lazy.
www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/Berettasskeeter -”
Berettasskeeter on HuffingtonPost
Retired Marine. Current Customs Officer. Strongly Conservative. Pro-gun, Pro-life, Pro-death penalty. Anti-Communist, Anti-Socialist, Anti-lazy.
www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/Berettasskeeter -”
DreamerWeaver replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 23:30:48
“mackbolan
thank all you anti-life pro-abortion people for not giving birth to the next einstein...or the next john lennon...or the next steven hawking....see this game works both ways....
Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 09/12/2009”
thank all you anti-life pro-abortion people for not giving birth to the next einstein...or the next john lennon...or the next steven hawking....see this game works both ways....
Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 09/12/2009”
DreamerWeaver replied on Nov 09, 2009 at 19:08:46
“Toonadude:
The shifting sands of political expediency we see at play.
Followed by: deny, deny, deny.
Just heard about a new book you might be interested in: "Denialists."”
The shifting sands of political expediency we see at play.
Followed by: deny, deny, deny.
Just heard about a new book you might be interested in: "Denialists."”
mike102 replied on Nov 09, 2009 at 04:35:15
“"Actually, quite a number of proRKBA people here oppose birth control and abortion rights."
Where?”
Where?”
OdinsEye replied on Nov 09, 2009 at 02:30:33
“You tried and failed. I have no problem with birth control and fully support abortion as a choice in cases of valid medical reasons where the health of the mother is in jeopardy or in cases of rape or incest.”
djcrsn replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 20:54:45
“Tunafud--not the regular crew, but even someone with your BCDS knows that”
negogato replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 19:43:47
“Toonadude.
We will have to ask djcrsn which planet he means. He seems to be the spokesman for it.
Negogato”
We will have to ask djcrsn which planet he means. He seems to be the spokesman for it.
Negogato”
Beyond the Easy Irony of Murdered Gun Advocate Meleanie Hain
Commented Oct 11, 2009 at 08:50:19 in Politics
“"never letting facts get in the way "
1-20-01 to 1-20-09.
But you didn't vote for him ... did ya Sivi ?”
1-20-01 to 1-20-09.
But you didn't vote for him ... did ya Sivi ?”
Beyond the Easy Irony of Murdered Gun Advocate Meleanie Hain
Commented Oct 11, 2009 at 08:35:24 in Politics
“45 Super --- I hear you although I doubt you would say the same for me. You see .... a slacker living in Mom's basement may be very bright and consistently post the absolute facts here. Same with a highly lauded social contributor living smack dab in the mainstream. But one of them has credibility --- the other has little to none. But on these posts, it's simply a matter of making the right claims in order get the cred. Making the right claims --- over and over and over and over.....................................”
Beyond the Easy Irony of Murdered Gun Advocate Meleanie Hain
Commented Oct 11, 2009 at 08:16:40 in Politics
“DivergentMary:
You note the Norse gods; however, just plain "God" would suffice to explain the choice of that monicker.”
You note the Norse gods; however, just plain "God" would suffice to explain the choice of that monicker.”
Beyond the Easy Irony of Murdered Gun Advocate Meleanie Hain
Commented Oct 10, 2009 at 19:06:36 in Politics
“Claims ?? --- indeed. Seems that proof, cites, evidence, etc., is demanded for any and all claims offered here save those upon which the most dogmatic "claimers" base their very credibility.
"Quite" ironic.”
"Quite" ironic.”
GOP Senator Identifies Gun Violence As Major Factor In Health Care Crisis
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 08:45:12 in Politics
“"Parents have a responsibility to themselves and their children to enforce education and discipline......"
I don't disagree. Maybe once people start having kids for the right reasons and then only if they can financially afford to do so.
I'm not holding my breath.”
I don't disagree. Maybe once people start having kids for the right reasons and then only if they can financially afford to do so.
I'm not holding my breath.”
GOP Senator Identifies Gun Violence As Major Factor In Health Care Crisis
Commented Oct 06, 2009 at 08:31:58 in Politics
“Oh --- you know how people get labled, dj ...... someone doesn't like to see black rifles in the deer woods and the next thing you know he's labled a gun grabber.”
GOP Senator Identifies Gun Violence As Major Factor In Health Care Crisis
Commented Oct 03, 2009 at 09:39:47 in Politics
“"Howabout we actually look at the CAUSES of violence in the country? Poverty, racism, lack of education, etc."
For once we seem to agree on something, TP. Curious though -- what ideas has the "no new taxes" crowd put forward to address these issues? The "party faithful" looked to GW Bush for massive spending cuts in his second term (it was O.K. to spend his way to re-election in his 1st term) but we know how that worked out. Furthermore, I have seen where some of the most pro-RKBA posters here appear to earn their living from a public sector source / endeavor (government worker / military pension, etc.) and I'm guessing they don't want to be unemployed or have their benefit checks cut even if the result is to fund social issues and thus reduce violence where guns are involved.
I would be interested in their views on that point.”
For once we seem to agree on something, TP. Curious though -- what ideas has the "no new taxes" crowd put forward to address these issues? The "party faithful" looked to GW Bush for massive spending cuts in his second term (it was O.K. to spend his way to re-election in his 1st term) but we know how that worked out. Furthermore, I have seen where some of the most pro-RKBA posters here appear to earn their living from a public sector source / endeavor (government worker / military pension, etc.) and I'm guessing they don't want to be unemployed or have their benefit checks cut even if the result is to fund social issues and thus reduce violence where guns are involved.
I would be interested in their views on that point.”
Berettasskeeter replied on Oct 05, 2009 at 22:09:08
“The Federal government has thrown massive amounts of cash at those problems, so much so that if they had given all the poor and oppressed a million dollars, we'd have nothing to talk about... or would we? It isn't taxes that will remedy those issues, it is personal responsibility and education. Parents have a responsibility to themselves and their children to enforce education and discipline, but does the Left want children disciplined?
Stop the free flow of our tax dollars to those voluntarily indigent, and what will happen? Will they sit in the rain and starve to death, or will they get jobs, possibly those jobs that "Americans don't want to do"??
Semper fi”
Stop the free flow of our tax dollars to those voluntarily indigent, and what will happen? Will they sit in the rain and starve to death, or will they get jobs, possibly those jobs that "Americans don't want to do"??
Semper fi”
djcrsn replied on Oct 05, 2009 at 19:35:00
“What makes you think Third is a teabagger?”
Thirdpower replied on Oct 03, 2009 at 21:39:14
“And you were doing so well Toon. Then you had to put the broken record back on.”
Gun Lobby Group Argues That More Access Is Needed To Gun Data
Commented Oct 02, 2009 at 10:18:42 in Politics
“O.K., dj.
And Michael Steele is "proof positive" that the Republican Party is the party of inclusion.”
And Michael Steele is "proof positive" that the Republican Party is the party of inclusion.”
Gun Lobby Group Argues That More Access Is Needed To Gun Data
Commented Oct 01, 2009 at 09:03:12 in Politics
“Caution, LE .... you may want to be able to "disavow all knowledge" down the road.”
djcrsn replied on Oct 01, 2009 at 16:39:23
“And 'fud, hopefully you will be able to add something other than snark to these discussions, but then again--I have a suspicion all you have is b*tch, whine and moan”
Gun Lobby Group Argues That More Access Is Needed To Gun Data
Commented Sep 30, 2009 at 14:54:20 in Politics
“I see you say "state Sen "
Important distinction, dj.
Your State Senator takes no part in confirming SCOTUS nominees as do U.S. Sens. Check the NRA's track record for endorsing Dems running for U.S. Sen.
I think you'll see a "pattern."”
Important distinction, dj.
Your State Senator takes no part in confirming SCOTUS nominees as do U.S. Sens. Check the NRA's track record for endorsing Dems running for U.S. Sen.
I think you'll see a "pattern."”
Gun Lobby Group Argues That More Access Is Needed To Gun Data
Commented Sep 30, 2009 at 12:22:37 in Politics
“"Why is it so important WHOM the NRA endorses? "
Hard as it might be to believe, many voters (whether they are NRA members or not) base their vote on that endorsement. With the double G.W. Bush endorsements, the NRA has demonstrated that their judgement is flawed and that they are serving as a shill for the Republican party.
The NRA's credibility on political endorsements is toast and they need to keep out of politics before they endorse any more Constitution trashers.
It's that simple.”
Hard as it might be to believe, many voters (whether they are NRA members or not) base their vote on that endorsement. With the double G.W. Bush endorsements, the NRA has demonstrated that their judgement is flawed and that they are serving as a shill for the Republican party.
The NRA's credibility on political endorsements is toast and they need to keep out of politics before they endorse any more Constitution trashers.
It's that simple.”
Toonadude replied on Oct 02, 2009 at 10:18:42
“O.K., dj.
And Michael Steele is "proof positive" that the Republican Party is the party of inclusion.”
And Michael Steele is "proof positive" that the Republican Party is the party of inclusion.”
djcrsn replied on Oct 01, 2009 at 15:36:11
“'fudd--when you look at the Senators from the PR's of Kali, New York, New Jersey, and Massachusets --they are all gun ban supporters of the highest order”
djcrsn replied on Oct 01, 2009 at 13:20:31
“Feinstein and Boxer are incompetent--but Rod Wright is proof positive that the NRA does endorse Dems”
Toonadude replied on Sep 30, 2009 at 14:54:20
“I see you say "state Sen "
Important distinction, dj.
Your State Senator takes no part in confirming SCOTUS nominees as do U.S. Sens. Check the NRA's track record for endorsing Dems running for U.S. Sen.
I think you'll see a "pattern."”
Important distinction, dj.
Your State Senator takes no part in confirming SCOTUS nominees as do U.S. Sens. Check the NRA's track record for endorsing Dems running for U.S. Sen.
I think you'll see a "pattern."”
djcrsn replied on Sep 30, 2009 at 14:04:45
“'fud--the NRA will endorse even Kali Dems if they support the 2nd amendment (they endorsed current state Sen Rod Wright who is a Democrat--and yes I did vote for him) so if you think the NRA is a Republican shills--you are misinformed”
Discussing Gun Violence Prevention in Indiana, Ohio and Tennessee
Commented Sep 30, 2009 at 08:46:01 in Politics
“It doesn't wash, dj. Do you honestly think the NRA would have remained silent and taken the chance that Dole would have prevailed if only they had endorsed him. They risked zero by endorsing Dole.
Follow the money, dj. I'm pretty sure Dole doesn't have much of it. He's just a disabled WWII vet --- but why would he NRA want to get behind that when their silence suggested that they may actually have no problem with Clinton?”
Follow the money, dj. I'm pretty sure Dole doesn't have much of it. He's just a disabled WWII vet --- but why would he NRA want to get behind that when their silence suggested that they may actually have no problem with Clinton?”
Gun Lobby Group Argues That More Access Is Needed To Gun Data
Commented Sep 29, 2009 at 05:46:32 in Politics
“"Facts, we don't need no stinkin' facts"
Sounds like a discussion in the George W. Bush admin. ----- Bush, Cheney, Rummy, and Rove discussing whether to invade Iraq.
And go ahead and "skritch" away, Tirdpower ----- it's well established that Bush went by his "beliefs" and never let facts get in the way.
And the NRA never let that major flaw in Bush's character get in the way of its endorsements of Bush.”
Sounds like a discussion in the George W. Bush admin. ----- Bush, Cheney, Rummy, and Rove discussing whether to invade Iraq.
And go ahead and "skritch" away, Tirdpower ----- it's well established that Bush went by his "beliefs" and never let facts get in the way.
And the NRA never let that major flaw in Bush's character get in the way of its endorsements of Bush.”
mike102 replied on Sep 30, 2009 at 09:40:21
“Why is it so important WHOM the NRA endorses? There are 3 or 4 million NRA members out of 80,000,000 gun owners.
And seriously, would you expect them to endorse Gore of Kerry?
I know, I know, you think they shouldn't have endorsed anyone, and maybe they shouldn't have, but they did.
Bush was never much of a friend to gun owners IMO.
So what?”
And seriously, would you expect them to endorse Gore of Kerry?
I know, I know, you think they shouldn't have endorsed anyone, and maybe they shouldn't have, but they did.
Bush was never much of a friend to gun owners IMO.
So what?”
Discussing Gun Violence Prevention in Indiana, Ohio and Tennessee
Commented Sep 28, 2009 at 21:28:12 in Politics
“Please dj -- please explain the NRA's approach in the 1996 election in light of your comment on the "nature of politics" because from where I stand, it is the NRA that apparently had no great issue with Clinton's gun bills given their refusal to endorse Dole.”
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