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Gallup Poll: Obama Job Approval Falls Below 50%

Gallup Poll: Obama Job Approval Falls Below 50%

Commented Nov 20, 2009 at 17:45:17 in Politics

“I just realized that the first anniversary of what was supposed to be a world-changing election has passed without a single mention in the press. Even the Democrats didn't bring it up. Believe me, if anyone out there felt there was something to celebrate, they would be celebrating it.

That's how far Obama has fallen. And he's only half-way down.”

huff-fan replied on Nov 20, 2009 at 18:22:12

“We at OFA were going to celebrate, but it ended up being a two day phone bank for health care reform.”

lifecoaches replied on Nov 20, 2009 at 18:18:00

“Well...duh­? You really don't realize how far down the tubes that the republicans took us !! Nothing has changed? We are not in total financial collapse you know, like we were headed ! ! No Change? Are you blind? With the party of no obstructing every move, dragging their feet on every discussion??? Now I admit there is no change with the republican party still being worthless ! ! Yes there is no change with them. lol This administration and congress has and will work very hard to solve extremely difficult issues. I am very proud and supportive og them.”

brady61995 replied on Nov 20, 2009 at 18:03:51

“trollagandalist can you tell us one accomplishment bush ever had? Just one”

Chernynkaya replied on Nov 20, 2009 at 17:55:08

“Where were you on Nov. 4, 2009? drunk?”

Gretel1or2 replied on Nov 20, 2009 at 17:51:01

“No....nons­ense. This just means that the hard work has begun. Ask any person who gets accepted into the college, medical school or graduate school of their choice. At first, there is ALWAYS jubilation and celebration upon being accepted. One year into the programs, and the hard work kicks in, then reality hits.Peopl­e are usually depressed, and question their decsions. When they complete their degrees, they feel it was worth the struggle. We are going through the same thing now. That's the nature of life. It has nothing to do with Obama as you're trying suggest.”

greatlardini replied on Nov 20, 2009 at 17:48:20

“It was mentioned plenty on November 4. You sleep through that day or what?”
White House Office Of Health Reform Director

White House Office Of Health Reform Director "Blindsided" By AHIP Study

Commented Oct 12, 2009 at 22:52:52 in Politics

“It's really nice to know we had Mary Poppins in charge of the White House Office of Health Reform.

Here is a woman who has no comprehension of history, politics, capitalism, profit or human nature. How far up in the White House does the naivete go?

Not very far, I suspect. Proving herself a fool, this woman has also proved that cutie has placed a nonentity in what looks, from the title of her office, like a critical role. That's pretty cynical, I should say. The folks at the top know exactly what's going on. The problem is that they are abetting it.”

soapington replied on Oct 12, 2009 at 23:08:44

“Mary Poppins? Not only was Mary Poppins a model of crisp efficiency, she could also perform useful magic. And she could do some pretty good things with a spoonful of sugar.”
New Jersey Poll: 33% Of Republicans Think Obama Not A Citizen, 13% Think He's Anti-Christ

New Jersey Poll: 33% Of Republicans Think Obama Not A Citizen, 13% Think He's Anti-Christ

Commented Sep 18, 2009 at 00:37:30 in Politics

“Look here, now, people. Here is the final proof. Either Republicans or Democrats are from another planet. One of us isn't human. I don't know which.

The only thing I can think of that might be relevant is that Democrats want to save the earth, Republicans want to destroy it. But I don't know what that proves. Maybe Democrats want to save the earth because their previous planet was destroyed, or maybe as tourists they see the beauty of it. Maybe Republicans are like natives, you know, like in New York. They never see the beauty in the Statue of Liberty.

But one of us has to get out of here. I'm hoping it's them, because I'm tired of packing up.”
House Dems Rally Behind Public Option In Weekly Caucus Gathering

House Dems Rally Behind Public Option In Weekly Caucus Gathering

Commented Aug 18, 2009 at 22:40:46 in Politics

“The Republican tactics which are most effective these days are straight out of the National Enquirer. If you put them all together, they amount - literally - to: "Alien Eats Baby."

There have always been enough people who believe stories like that to keep papers like the Enquirer in the black. The Republicans have clearly enlisted them in the political wars.

Why is Obama still trying to get a deal with the party which believes stuff like that? Does he still believe there are people out there who think "bipartisanship" is the ultimate goal - that what America wants is for us to be nice to each other?

He took the tack, during his campaign, of not confronting political absurdities directly. It worked - but it can't keep working, because as absurdities pile up the whole situation begins to look absurd, including him.

There's an old adage in the law that a good settlement is one with which neither side is happy. I believe in that adage - but it doesn't apply here. Because there will be no bill which gets the support of the health care industry unless it benefits them - and I mean benefits them directly and big, not simply minimizes the damage they could have sustained.

If he really wants effective health care reform he's got to put himself on the line for it - and he hasn't. That Congressman who said Obama would give up a second term for health caremust be the only guy”

pigletsfriend replied on Aug 18, 2009 at 22:58:15

“: "Alien Eats Baby." - LOL - No Joke though I AM from the UK and health care there does suck”

GabrielXL replied on Aug 18, 2009 at 22:50:34

“Well said my good man. Well said indeed. The President seriously needs to get off the "kumbaiya" trip and start pushing the naysayers out of the way, because that's all they are. In the way.

Tell them, "Lead, follow or get pushed out of the way." If he believes in what he's doing and truly intends to live up to his campaign promise, he has to be willing to put his ass on line. He spoke about undoing politics as usual... Well Mr. President, it's time to walk it like you talk it.

In fact, it's been time.”

FdaLef replied on Aug 18, 2009 at 22:47:22

“You mean like "Edwards fathers love child with woman other than his cancer survivor wife?" Like those stories kinds of Equirer stories?”
Internal Memo Confirms Big Giveaways In White House Deal With Big Pharma

Internal Memo Confirms Big Giveaways In White House Deal With Big Pharma

Commented Aug 13, 2009 at 13:01:06 in Politics

“This is an exact duplicate of Cheney's deal with the energy companies.

What this effectively means is that Obama loses the trust of many people who supported him - a development which was building anyway in view of his handling of the banks, the torture program and lack of transparency.

This doesn't mean that progressives won't vote for him. It does mean that they will now look at him as the lesser of two evils - in other words, as politics as usual. He has blown the great wave of good feeling that got him elected and on which he was supposedly counting to push through his agenda. So now, when Obama speaks, there is no more electricity - there is instead of sort of exasperation at having to listen to yet one more guy who doesn't back up what he says. Maybe that's why there's so little progressive pushback against Republican anti-health care reform tactics. People are disillusioned. They don't believe.”

lisak2008 replied on Aug 13, 2009 at 13:09:24

“Call me rational, but I just can't find it in me to get too exercised over the words from an individual who represents an industry who is desperately trying to defeat something that my side, if you will, supports. Sorry, I still believe. But, then again, I'm a rational kinda gal!”

Totto replied on Aug 13, 2009 at 13:08:26

“"Anone could have written the memo". Obviously you'll believe what you will, without proof.”

Indy750 replied on Aug 13, 2009 at 13:05:28

“Well said, Tweet. I could not agree with you more.”

ljc replied on Aug 13, 2009 at 13:04:24

“We never found out who Cheney made his deal with.”

NatteringNabob replied on Aug 13, 2009 at 13:03:34

“All this on the word of a "knowledgeable health care lobbyist?"”
Brad Miller Death Threat: Capitol Police Looking Into Phone Call Made To Congressman Over Health Care Reform

Brad Miller Death Threat: Capitol Police Looking Into Phone Call Made To Congressman Over Health Care Reform

Commented Aug 08, 2009 at 09:47:13 in Politics

“I'm beginning to get the feeling that they have gotten all the "good" publicity they are going to get out of these town hall protests. People are either bored or turned off by the tactic now. (Don't forget they had little impact when they did the teabagging thing.)

I'm sure the Republicans, who are masters of political theater, know the string is about to run out on this. So we can expect something new to start happening relatively soon.

They know also that the impact things like this have on specific issues is not high. After all the fuss over Sotomayor, she was easily confirmed without us having to hear anything further from Republicans. Nor have they stopped anything else from going through. What they are doing - and they've said so - is raising a sequence of fusses with the hope that the cumulative effect will be to drop the Democratic vote totals in 2010. Whether they accomplish that depends entirely on who the American people are.

The town hall story will fade in the next few days, giving the Democrats an interval - probably a short one - to put on a good sell for health care reform before the next Republican tactic is launched. It's too bad nobody knows what's going to be in the ultimate health care bill, which makes this opportunity mostly a wasted one.”

globalcitizenlinda replied on Aug 08, 2009 at 10:13:17

“Well put, thanks for your thoughtfulness”

Punkynsnow replied on Aug 08, 2009 at 09:58:30

“You make excellent points. Fanned.”
Dem Senators: White House Says It Cut No Deal With Drug Makers

Dem Senators: White House Says It Cut No Deal With Drug Makers

Commented Aug 06, 2009 at 23:06:15 in Politics

“Perhaps the most effective block against those trying to get a pro-health care reform enacted is not the teabaggers or corporate campaigns but the fact that there are five different health care bills being worked on in Congress. It is impossible to sell a coherent pro health care position when no one knows what the position is. You can't even answer legitimate questions, never mind the mindless propaganda.

The best chance of getting something real done - or at least something that could be explained and advocated - was for Obama to have met with all parties concerned - progressives, Republicans, insurance companies - and then presented a bill fully formed to Congress. Even if we hated it, at least we'd know what it was. (Of course I would have preferred him to meet with only progressives, but that would be asking for the moon.)

I'm reminded of Hillary Clinton's comment during her campaign, when she said that inspiration like MLK's is fine, but it was Lyndon Johnson's hard work that got the civil rights bill passed. Johnson would have gotten through health care this year, because he had real power over the Senate particularly and knew how to bend ears and break arms to get what he wanted. Obama has no clue. I'm afraid Hillary turns out to be right.”

clueless JD replied on Aug 06, 2009 at 23:57:20

“You are right about what is essentially wrong, but you are wrong in all of your dicta:

Obama made the mistake of trying to not repeat the Clinton mistake: he let it get screwed up bottom up rather than screwed up from the top down.

Johnson should have gotten health care reform passed 45 years ago instead of expanding the war and letting the Khmer Rouge rise in Cambodia.”

Oldtt replied on Aug 06, 2009 at 23:41:30

“Take your scenario and subtract the participation of Republicans, and you have so-called HillaryCare from the '90s. Back then the GOP demanded a complete bill from the WH and would not accept less; then they torpedoed it when it arrived. Obama's apparent plan was to force the Congress to craft a bi-partisan bill pretty much on their own - the opposite approach from Clinton - and the result is what we see today. What was needed was a solid proposal from Obama backed by a solid Dem majority in the House and Senate, and to hell with the GOP. This what Hillary would have done, but - gee! - that would have required political combat. You're right about LBJ It's ironic that Ted Kennedy - still smarting from being left out of the original Clinton healthcare planning - saw Obama as his vehicle for enacting the Kennedy Plan and may come away with nothing as a result.”

TylerRose replied on Aug 06, 2009 at 23:33:50

“I think all of them were working on a bill but opponents to health care reform were taking bits and pieces and going out and publicizing it incorrectly so they were forced to come out and start talking about the bits of pieces that were being distorted. I agree, I wish a final bill had been completed before it was discussed but here we are. The news media didn't help either because they kept badgering informants about what was in the bill so they could have a story.”
Blue Dogs Delay, Water Down House Health Care Bill

Blue Dogs Delay, Water Down House Health Care Bill

Commented Jul 29, 2009 at 21:27:34 in Politics

“If there is going to be meaningful health care reform, three big things are going to have to happen in August. And they are all things Obama once did very well.

1) there is going to have to be a massive ad campaign making very clear what is going to happen and what is not. The Republican plan is the usual one: creating confusion and doubt to erode support. Every lie they tell must be directly countered.

2) the insurance industry must be attacked with facts. This can't be subtle; it must be direct and aggressive. And people in Congress who oppose health care must be exposed.

3) after these are run for a few weeks, Obama has to put it all together in an aggressive attack against tactics like birthers and deathers. The opposition has to be shown as crazed and disingenuous. A heavy dose of ridicule is sbsolutely necessary, combined with a clear prediction of how much better life will be with health care reform. Sense must counter nonsense - big time.”

helenwheels replied on Jul 29, 2009 at 21:31:18

“Agreed! Time for David Plough to show his campa!ng Stuff!”
Mark Sanford: Cheating SC Gov Says God Will Make Him Better

Mark Sanford: Cheating SC Gov Says God Will Make Him Better

Commented Jul 19, 2009 at 15:22:54 in Politics

“If you take Sanford at the word of his emails, his involvement in Argentina was glorious! It was not only the best sex but the best interpersonal relating Sanford had ever known. This would seem to meet the definition of "good". So what is the "bad" that he is going to make "good"? The fact of cheating Sanford was perfectly okay with. It's the concept of cheating - i.e., the rule, meaning other people's opinions - that Sanford has so much trouble with that he's gone back on his knees to his wife, who, considering she was a high-ranking Lazard beancounter, must have brought emotional satisfaction to a whole new level. God is Sanford's problem - that is, God as his C Street brethren see Him. How sad for Sanford that he believes God is against extravagantly beautiful love. Doug Coe, I'm sure, is a hell of a lot smarter. He uses God against Sanford to get him back to the point where he can be a useful power tool. Sanford had almost made his escape. How awful they've dragged him back in.”
Redneck Games Slideshow: Vote

Redneck Games Slideshow: Vote

Commented Jul 16, 2009 at 12:58:39 in Home

“Why is it the only people who still want to relive Woodstock would have shot hippies in 1969?”
Jenny Sanford: 'I Am Willing To Forgive Mark'

Jenny Sanford: 'I Am Willing To Forgive Mark'

Commented Jul 02, 2009 at 20:09:36 in Politics

“Mark Sanford is not a hypocrite.

I;m sure he believed the things he said about the sanctity of marriage when he said them. I'm sure the idea of adultery offended his sense of the rightness of things. And then he grew up. He fell hopelessly in love, and he learned that marriage is only a legal matter, and that God is not the only thing that rules your life. The commitment comes from the soul, and when it's overridden it's gone. So now he's known the pain of love and the complexity of life. He's learned something valuable about what matters to him, and he should become a better person because of it.

"Forgiveness opens the door for Mark to begin to work privately, humbly and respectfully toward reconciliation with me"? Is that what you're offering him? Why come back to that?

So, Jenny, forget it. He can't be happy back with you unless he's an amnesiac. Maybe after four or five years he'll forget about her, and forget about the joy he had with her - and could have even more of. And re-accept the life that he now knows isn't what he wants. I don't think you really want him back that way.”

ohio4obama replied on Jul 02, 2009 at 20:40:06

“Soul Schmole. This guy is a ethically bankrupt, thieving liar with the emotional maturity of a 14 year old girl who lives to daydream about the treacherous drama she calls life.

And "not a hypocrite"?? HA, that's where your argument really met its fate as utter delusion.”

saynotosarah replied on Jul 02, 2009 at 20:28:22

“Tweet,

I couldn't agree more. Jenny, move on with your life and let Mark move on with his. You won't gain anything by having him stay with you. Once the kids are grown and gone, he will be too.”

dezzu replied on Jul 02, 2009 at 20:17:25

“I agree. They're both suffering from misplaced priorities and it's not her job to keep them together under the leaky roof that the Bible seems to have provided them with so far. I hope this ends soon and gets out of the news.”

Ellyllon replied on Jul 02, 2009 at 20:14:49

“I don't really get why so many people are romanticizing this guy's affair, especially after he copped to a 'handful' of others. Couldn't it just be that he's potting soil, his wife doesn't want to get rid of him (and I don't want to know why - too depressing) - but really, the concept of love deserves better than to have this cheap guy as its representative. I don't want to see him EVER on a Valentine's Day card.”

"Fire David Letterman" Protest Becomes Hatefest, Draws More Media Than Protesters

Commented Jun 17, 2009 at 11:56:20 in Media

“Fifteen people? And this gets top of the line coverage? Never let it be said the progressive media is less sensationalist than the tabloids. Shame on you for giving these people what they want.”

Mickey7 replied on Jun 17, 2009 at 12:23:12

“I get your point, but feel the media coverage in this case is actually effective. First, it provides yet another glimpse of the hate-filled insanity of these people and their goddess Sarah Palin and second, the very fact that the media outnumbered the protesters demonstrates how absurd and out of touch they and their 'righteous' cause are. Letterman called himself the 'most hated man' in America based on the supposed universal reaction to his joke. I think this is perfect example of the rightwing noise machine at work. It is their incredible volume and intensity, rather than their actual base of support, that makes it appear they have a strong following. It's BS smoke and mirrors. The rightwing talking heads make a lot of noise for a day or two to raise their ratings, but they clearly don't motivate more than a handful of people to join their 'causes' (teabagging party, anyone?) and can't be bothered to actually lend their bodies to support these supposedly important causes (where were Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Reilly and Beck?). Time and again the rightwing hate agenda fails and I think it's good that everyone gets to see that firsthand. Every time another stupid rightwing 'cause' is seen for the joke it is, another chunk of the hate foundation collapses and, in time, maybe the whole thing will come tumbling down.”

justmeinAz replied on Jun 17, 2009 at 12:01:15

“Yeah, I really wish this was being treated as the non-issue that it is. 35 media personnel on hand to cover 15 people demonstrating?”

Meggie replied on Jun 17, 2009 at 11:57:44

“Glad I wrote to Hilton Group yesterday saying I would not support them in their political choices on this issue. I'm sure I stayed in hotels far more last year than all 15 of these people put together.
Poor choice Embassy/Hilton!”
Iran Updates (VIDEO): Live-Blogging The Uprising

Iran Updates (VIDEO): Live-Blogging The Uprising

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 12:47:15 in World

“What does the US do about Iran now? Very tricky.

The goal is regime change and democratization. Does that mean encouraging counter-revolution? No; that will only get a lot of people killed. Will US military threats encourage democratization? No; they will likely have the opposite effect.

What the US needs to do is to hold out the promise that Iran will be welcomed into the community of nations once it is a true democracy. Beyond that, the best thing the US can do is infiltrate agents into Iran - not CIA, but MoveOn operatives and people from the Obama campaign, to help the reformists organize. The truth is that conditions in Iran right now are not much different from what they were here during the Bush Administration. The same skills that brought about regime change in the US can be and should be used in Iran.”

anesthesia84 replied on Jun 13, 2009 at 13:48:38

“So what you're saying is we should interfere in their domestic affairs. How about we leave the world alone and focus on our own country...­.or can we afford to engineer revolution in other countries while millions of Americans go bankrupt, drown under college debt and have no health care or retirement savings.”

Tuckerndfw replied on Jun 13, 2009 at 13:41:21

“The US is currently financing terrorists & revolutionaries (???) inside Iran. That's what the CIA does and has been doing since it was invented. The CIA overthows gov't's unfriendly to "US interests" (mostly oil companies). Such as Saddam Hussein & the Taliban. And, attempting to do to Hugo Chavez. They gave up on Castro, but spent years attempting to overthrow his government.

The CIA has been attempting to overthrow Iran's government since 1979 and it has nothing to do with nukes or Israel. It's all about oil.

It's not a "cournter revolution" the US is attempting to foment, it is a revolution against the Iranian people's choice of governments.

If the Iranian people want a different form of government, they don't need the US to install it for them. They can do it for themselves, just like they did in 1979 when they got rid of the dictator we last installed in Iran in 1953.

The Iranian people are not nearly as stupid & helpless as Americans seem to think.”
California Nears Financial

California Nears Financial "Meltdown," Schwarzenegger Threatens To Shut Down Government

Commented Jun 11, 2009 at 16:43:54 in Politics

“If California falls apart, it's their own fault. The theory of representative government is that the public elects someone to use his or her judgment on issues, theoretically taking a long and informed view. Of course, plenty of representatives don't do that. But to replace that system with one where the public makes all the decisions directly, most likely ill-informed and acting on emotions of the moment, you likely get laws that cause a trainwreck down the road. The trick is to elect good people and let them do their job. But here's the conundrum: if the public were smart enough to elect good people, they might also be smart enough to do the right thing themselves. So I guess it comes down to this: ignorance does not bring bliss.”
President Obama Faces Growing Hill Pressure On Israel

President Obama Faces Growing Hill Pressure On Israel

Commented Jun 02, 2009 at 08:03:55 in Politics

“The settlement movement is right wing and religious. Progressive Jews - and don't forget 80% voted for Obama - want to see Israel move to the”
President Obama Faces Growing Hill Pressure On Israel

President Obama Faces Growing Hill Pressure On Israel

Commented Jun 02, 2009 at 08:01:16 in Politics

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Take The HuffPost Survey

Take The HuffPost Survey

Commented Apr 14, 2009 at 12:08:12 in Home

“Add me to that comment.”

BeverleeC replied on Apr 14, 2009 at 13:22:41

“Amen!!!! I will NEVER take any poll sponsered by HP!!! If they don't like my "demographics" they can do without my support. This is not the only game in Progressive Town.”
Geithner Won't Endorse Bonus Tax Bill, Says Right Balance Will Be Found

Geithner Won't Endorse Bonus Tax Bill, Says Right Balance Will Be Found

Commented Mar 23, 2009 at 13:03:45 in Politics

“Geithner refuses to endorse the bill to tax bonuses issued by TARP recipients. He's right, but for the wrong reasons.

The bill is an ex post facto bill of attainder. It's about as constitutional as hardboiled eggs. But that's not why Geithner opposes it.

He said: "We need to balance the basic objective that we not reward failure against the hugely important imperative that we get the financial system doing what it needs to do for recovery."

No, Tim, we don't.

If the government expands direct lending, we can let the banks go down. New ones will spring up, which will be better regulated. And maybe we can find some bankers who don't believe that their excrement is not malodorous. (They may be in Minnesota, up near the Canadian border.)”

Navision replied on Mar 23, 2009 at 14:07:28

“So when does anything as "constitutional or unconstitutional" have anything to do about.

The constitutuion that America so embraces appears to be just a worthless, corrupt, lying piece
of paper like anything else in the county.


Since, Obama has been elected it is class warfare. The rich will not rest until there is a civil war.”

peacekitten replied on Mar 23, 2009 at 13:07:03

“the current year for which taxes are due is 2008. these bonuses were paid out in 2008.”
AIG Execs Who Ruined Company To Get $165 Million In Bonuses

AIG Execs Who Ruined Company To Get $165 Million In Bonuses

Commented Mar 14, 2009 at 20:22:01 in Business

“Suppose the stock market makes a quick and substantial recovery, everybody starts making money, things are heading back to where they were. Everybody's exhausted by what they've just been through, they're tremendously relieved and all they want to do is go back to their favorite expensive restaurant.

So they don't want to hear about systemic problems. They don't want to try to make sure it doesn't happen again. All they want is the sweet glide they used to be in.

So Obama becomes annoying with his overarching plan. They want him to go away like they made Churchill go away after W.W. II. They don't want to be reminded of any of it.

All you have to do is bring the market back fast to put an end to all of Obama's initiatives. It's like when gas prices drop, we all go back to SUV's. Obama becomes the embodiment of a bad memory.

And it can be done.”
Stock Market Tumbles On Geithner Speech

Stock Market Tumbles On Geithner Speech

Commented Feb 10, 2009 at 19:38:59 in Business

“Geithner's plan:

1) Create a bad bank to buy up toxic assets. Much of the money is to come from private investors. Geithner says "there's a lot of private capital out there that wants to come in. It just can't get the financing.­" If it needs financing, how is it private capital? If you have to borrow money, you don't have capital; the guy who loaned it does.

2) A trillion dollar fund to make direct government student loans, car loans, cover credit card debt and maybe mortgages. That's the part I really like.

3) Money to help homeowners renegotiate mortgages.

And then giving $350 billion to the banks. So we offload the toxic paper from the banks. We make direct government loans so the banks don't have to, since they really don't want to. So why are we giving money to the banks?

Geithner's not imposing an executive pay restriction except on very senior execs. So the CEO of Citibank can only get $500,000 but the guys below him can get billion dollar bonuses. Maybe we're going to have round-robin CEO's with 3 month terms so everybody gets a shot.

Bank shareholders are protected from taking a hit. Geithner is not demanding replacement of bad management. And he won't tell the banks what they have to do with the money. Paulson Redux.

Geithner is tipping his friends.”

robinhood1 replied on Feb 10, 2009 at 20:35:05

“Bank shareholders, including the millions of workers who have index funds in their 401K plans, have already taken a big hit. So have government and corporate defined benefit pension plans, which most likely have had bank shares among their holdings in the past couple of years. Just who is supposed to invest more money into bank shares or bank mortgages?”
Obama Inauguration Speech: FULL TEXT, VIDEO

Obama Inauguration Speech: FULL TEXT, VIDEO

Commented Jan 20, 2009 at 22:40:32 in Politics

“I've been trying to figure out why Obama's speech left me flat. And I think it wasn't what he said, but how he said it.

"I stand here today humbled by the task before us, grateful for the trust you have bestowed, mindful of the sacrifices borne by our ancestors.­" Three cliches in his first sentence. Not a good start.

"The still waters of peace ...", "amidst gathering clouds and raging storms ..." Amidst? In 2009? This isn't poetry, it's bad 19th century prose.

"They packed up their few worldly possessions and traveled across oceans"? You mean, like, they picked up the few things they had and got on a boat?

Obama missed here because, rather than respond to the history he was making, he was responding to history already made - by Lincoln, by Roosevelt, by Washington. Those guys were great, but they are unfortunately dead. And nobody talks the way they did anymore.

There was a lot of JFK material in Obama's speech. JFK used a lot of salad greens (a lot of "let us"). But JFK did not say "Today I say to you .." And that was fifty years ago.

So now I wonder whether Obama's other speeches - to which we thrilled - were as rhetorically weak, and only powerful because Bush was still out there and Obama was challenging him. But I'm too lazy to go back and read those speeches. So I guess I'll never know.”

ladyv replied on Jan 21, 2009 at 05:44:52

“Yeah, but see...to have made his speech all about the history he was *making* would've felt like his nomination acceptance speech. Obama has always been careful to not make his speeches about him. They are not vainglorious. And it would be so easy to have fallen into the vainglorious trap yesterday. There was not a single self-congratulatory note in that speech. That was vital. I think the calls back to much earlier in our nation's history were intended to reinforce the idea that the recent problems with those in power are aberrations, not all of our history. We have done better, and we can do better. Then, to balance it out and keep it from becoming the Revolutionary War speech, he deliberately noted that we are a young nation. And, we are young, for a nation.

Do you know what "fanservice" is? There was no fanservice in Obama's speech, but it wouldn't have been appropriate to have serviced his fans in that speech. It was the wrong occasion. What he did do was call this administration out on the carpet. The more I read and watch it, the more I'm stunned by how strongly he did that. Because it was unexpected, it kind of sneaks up on you, but when you go through it again and watch it with the knowledge of where he's going with the whole thing it's kind of shocking.”
Lincoln Memorial Inauguration Concert: Info, Updates (AUDIO) (PHOTOS)

Lincoln Memorial Inauguration Concert: Info, Updates (AUDIO) (PHOTOS)

Commented Jan 19, 2009 at 11:18:21 in Politics

“The Obama concert brought back thoughts and feelings I haven't had since Bobby Kennedy was shot. Of course, it was theater - but I never thought I'd see America want to hear the message they were delivering.

From Tiger Woods on, it degenerated into the Grammys. Renee Fleming was awesome, and Stevie Wonder meant a lot because he was there the first time (and it was great to watch the joy on the pit musicians' faces). The rest - even Obama's speech - was redundant and over-produced. But then Pete Seeger. Pete Seeger!

And I felt like doing what I used to love to do - get in the car, put down the top and go see what's out there in America.”
Israeli forces advance deep into Gaza urban areas

Israeli forces advance deep into Gaza urban areas

Commented Jan 10, 2009 at 12:10:03 in World

“The Israeli view is driven by extreme religion. It is the worst kind of imperialism, because it uses religion as its excuse for expansionism. What Israel wants is the reinstitution of Israel in its biblical size. Not because it needs more lebensraum - it doesn't - but because inclusion of territory it does not now possess is required before the Messiah returns. And any policy towards Israel which does not understand this is doomed to failure unless the rational secular population of Israel retakes control of national policy. We are hopeful that has happened in America. What hope do we have that it will happen in Israel?”

kav1 replied on Jan 10, 2009 at 12:23:19

“Tweet -

I love that you used 'lebensraum'. Funny how much of what Israel does today resembles concepts and actions by the National Socialists.

I am amazed that people of Israel did not learn from the violence and genocide that was perpetrated on them; you'd think they had enough.

But, Jung makes sense here - we do what we are familiar and comfortable with, no matter how dysfunctional or hypocritical.

You are wise to point out that understanding the ideas, beliefs and needs of groups must be included when working on relations among groups and nations. It seems our government has never learned this, except maybe when we tried to pacify the Indians by giving them cattle to hunt because we took the buffalo hunt away.”

skialethia replied on Jan 10, 2009 at 12:19:26

“Does anyone really believe that God or Jesus would approve of Israelconverting Gazaand that West Bank into the largest concentration camp known to mankind and now conducting amassacreto ensure that those people never resist this crime and the world remains ignorantof the scale of their operation?

I implore everyone to watch this presentation. Take the time to watch it all. (It lasts over a half hour). It is unbelievable that this is happening in the 20th Century and being funded by the U.S.

Everyone must see this presentation:

http://www.wrmea.com/index.htm

Once on that site, scroll down and click on: Dr. Barghouti's Presentation at ADC Convention
(-it is the title next to the third "arrow-bu*llet")

Please, please take the time to see it.”

Ariadne replied on Jan 10, 2009 at 12:17:22

“And the right leaning Chris tians hope Israel will trigger the end of days. Religulous!”

courtb replied on Jan 10, 2009 at 12:17:02

“You do know that most Israelis are secular, right? Those people who want to reestablish the biblical borders of Israel are considered the fringe right.”
Israeli forces advance deep into Gaza urban areas

Israeli forces advance deep into Gaza urban areas

Commented Jan 10, 2009 at 10:43:21 in World

“Proposition commonly advanced in the US media: Israel can't negotiate with Hamas because Hamas wants to exterminate the Jews.

Response: This is bulls**t.

1) Arab rhetoric is historically extreme. Whether they actually believe the things they say I don't know, but historically what they say has very little to do with what they do. You can find plenty of Jewish statements which, if taken seriously, would eliminate any possibility of Hamas negotiating with Israel.

2) They can't exterminate the Jews. They just can't. This "threat" is a fiction.

If politicians and media can't get beyond tabloid thinking, no one is ever going to know the truth.”
Howard Dean Absent From Obama/DNC Affair

Howard Dean Absent From Obama/DNC Affair

Commented Jan 07, 2009 at 22:52:46 in Politics

“Why wasn't Dean invited? Try this on.

Back in 2004 when Dean introduced the 50 state strategy which produced the victories in 2006 and 2008, two prominent Democrats fought him tooth and nail. Who were they? Chuck Schumer and ... Rahm Emanuel.

They didn't believe the strategy would work. But more to the point, I think they recognized that if it DID work, it would divert Democratic power away from the party's old fundraising base, particularly in Wall Street and finance. In other words, Dean believed in Democratic populism. Schumer and Emanuel did not - and still do not.

I take this insult to Dean personally. For me, it is a very black mark against Obama and one I will never forgive him for. Not that he cares.

But he should care.”

yesivoteddem replied on Jan 08, 2009 at 11:24:10

“in 2/06 the hotline reported that after a meeting with Dean in harlem - that Clinton came out in support of the 50 state strategy.

he also said hed help raise money for it.”

who38 replied on Jan 08, 2009 at 07:20:54

“You nailed it; thanks.”

lizr replied on Jan 08, 2009 at 02:04:04

“Excellent post Tweet!!!

thanks.”

Citizen54 replied on Jan 07, 2009 at 23:26:37

“I have some friends in Chicago, one of whom worked for Emanuel's congressional campaign.
They both call Rahm Emanuel "the devil."”

thirtyninesteps replied on Jan 07, 2009 at 23:25:59

“Yup.”

FaceYourFears replied on Jan 07, 2009 at 23:21:57

“"But he should care"

2012....”
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