“As I'm sure many have pointed out: most atheists were once Christians. We actually did study the Bible, Christianity, and all religions. Atheists are by far the most knowledgeable about what is actually in the Bible and what all religions actually believe.
It's precisely BECAUSE we "learned more about Christians" that we are today NOT Christians.
But, you can continue to think it's merely because we are ignorant, if you choose to remain that way as well.”
DarkstarGK on Nov 23, 2013 at 11:43:39
“Atheists pick and choose the bits they like to try and use against us.
I dont think your ignorant at all. Nasty, Aggressive, unhappy maybe but not ignorant.
I dont want to convert you. I really am not that fussed mate. But you would love to convert me. I have tolerance for your non belief. You do not for mine.”
“Are you reading the same Bible that I read? In it, "God" is angry, vengeful, and jealous. God promotes mass murder, sends bears to kill dozens of children, and advises people to cut off the foreskin that he allegedly put there in the first place.
“Of course, it's really hard to follow the teachings of a book that contradicts itself every few pages. "Love everyone", "kill nonbelievers," "heal the poor", "forgive everyone", but "stone adulterers to death." "don't be gay," "let your daughter be gang-raped" And so on....
The bible is the worst source of moral advice I can think of.”
“Most Christians I know have no idea what's in the Bible.
Here's what I don't like about this study though is that it talks about "readING" the Bible, and uses the present tense.
One would HOPE, one would think, that if one is basing one's entire life on ONE book, that that person would have already READ (past tense) the entire thing first. Afterall, it's not that terribly long of a book, and it's quite repetitive, too.
It's ludicrous, if you ask me, to speak of "readING" the Bible daily or weekly.
I don't care if Christians look at a few verses each day; I want them to read the ENTIRE book from cover-to-cover.
Now THAT is the study I want to see: How many Christians have read the entire Bible, even once???”
Paul Kearney on Jan 6, 2014 at 18:12:50
“You should read and reread the NT, if you are a Christian, there is no way to take it all in at one time, and as you evolve during your life time, things that did not dawn on you before, will suddenly take on new meaning. This is a fact, that has always been true, and is one of the reasons that I take so many to task, when they say ignorant, and judgmental things. If you read the Word of Jesus, you will see that most of what the churches do, and say, are exactly the opposite, of what Jesus taught. It is almost like the TV, and mega church evangelists read "The Sermon on The Mount", and decided to do everything, He said not to do.”
“Atheism is a "belief system" like OFF is a TV channel.
What does it tell you that the message is more important than helping people? If Christian groups just wanted to help people (as opposed to recruit them) then they wouldn't give any particular message other than, "here, I'd like to help you." Actions speak louder than words, right?”
“What evidence? There is no evidence other than the gospels, all of which also claim Jesus could walk on water, so, needless to say, I'm a just a bit skeptical about all of it.”
Sarx99 on Sep 30, 2013 at 17:18:52
“Certainly there is redaction within the gospels, but it is a fallacy to reject the whole based upon a part. To assert that Jesus walked on water is a different conclusion as to whether or not he existed.”
“Really? Gee, that's interesting, because everything in the bible says that deeds don't matter nearly as much as just believing it "on faith."
How odd. So, basically, the Pope just made a strong case against religion, in particular his own.
Of course, none of this is relevant, and I wish humanity would finally relinquish its childish beliefs in deities.”
geogeer on Sep 13, 2013 at 15:06:23
“Maybe you should read the entirety of what the Pope wrote instead of what HuffPo said he said.”
Cynthia Brown Christ on Sep 13, 2013 at 14:32:31
“I see that you don' read the bible on your own much, but rather attend a church, perhaps that tells you what to read?
There are so many places in the bible where good deeds are pronounced as just as important, if not more important than belief. I am not going to do homework, that you will probably never do, but just google Rom2 for one example. Maybe you will be spurred to get to the heart of things, rather than believe what others have told you.”
James Clovispoint on Sep 13, 2013 at 10:41:28
Kevin Jablonski on Sep 13, 2013 at 10:38:18
“Wrong!!! "Faith without works is dead". Book of James”
“Actually, the Catholic Church alone receives billions in taxpayer money. Look on their own website, Catholic Charities USA. They have all their fiscal reports there, and virtually ALL of "their" money is actually from the federal government.
Also, have you ever heard of "faith-based" initiatives?
Many, many churches and church-run organizations receive taxpayer money.”
“How does it "ignore the concepts of free markets" (and what on Earth does that even mean?) and how does "ignore self-reliance"?
Minute details? Yes, some classes are like that, at the upper level, when details are critical. There are still hundreds of "intro" and "fundamentals" classes, however. But, so what? What's wrong with specific classes? What's wrong with classes about how media affects us? What's wrong with a class that examines carefully how Muslims are portrayed in films? What these classes teach is CRITICAL THINKING skills via a close examination of a given subject matter that is likely the expertise and life's work of the professor teaching it.
“The previous president couldn't even pronounce "NUCLEAR", and the right-wingers on this thread are just giddy that Obama muffed a last name that is not even English.
Bush couldn't even pronounce simple words in his own language, let alone foreign names.”
queman on Jul 2, 2013 at 16:38:54
“As if Bush was the only other POTUS this country has had?
We're talking about POTUSBO, not POTUSGB...
BTW, our current guy doesn't even know what Memorial Day is about...
"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in...in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong." - Barack Obama”
“So, if they're already paying basically zero taxes, what possible argument is there left to explain why they're not hiring?
I keep hearing my conservative friends say that companies are overburdened with taxes and regulations, and that's why they're not hiring. The evidence suggests they're not overburdened with taxes and at all. As for regulations, I'm not seeing that point either.”
MoJoSB on Jul 1, 2013 at 21:46:24
“It's the cyclical nature of business your conservative friends don't understand.
Why does a business hire? They are doing more business.
When do they do more business? When the demand for what they offer is more.
When is the demand more? When people have more money.
“Explain yourself. It seems to me they're exercising their free speech.
Typically, in situations like this (trust me because I've dealt with this several times), city councils and school boards would rather not do their prayer or monument if it means they must also allow atheists a platform.