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Why It's Good for Obama the Olympic Committee Didn't Pick Chicago

Why It's Good for Obama the Olympic Committee Didn't Pick Chicago

Commented Oct 03, 2009 at 22:38:32 in Politics

“other world leaders have thrown their weight in to the mix and won though. I don't think they lost because of whatever they did wrong. It was just Rio's time I guess. The only reason I was unhappy Chicago lost was cause I KNEW it would be portrayed as Obama's loss-which it is being portrayed as. Sucks. I think he should have cheered Chicago on from afar.”
New Rule: Float Like Obama, Sting Like Ali

New Rule: Float Like Obama, Sting Like Ali

Commented Sep 11, 2009 at 21:43:41 in Comedy

“but can't you see that's the reason WHY chess is being played? duh.You're interrupting yourselves getting the help you need when you do that. Besides, Bill and others talk like they don't know he's playing chess, so I don't see your point about reminding ppl during the chess game.”

philko replied on Sep 12, 2009 at 09:13:49

“I can see the reason that chess is being played, but I have a strong suspicion that the chess players themselves often lose sight of that reason.

On the Republican side of the chessboard, there are people who apparently feel that beating the current opponent (Obama) so that they can take on the next opponent from the queue is the only goal. It's not about America (that's only rhetoric), it's not about "the people", it's only about winning.

On Obama's side, he's apparently so concerned about being seen as a civil, urbane chess player that he's lost sight of the stakes that are riding on the game, too. All it takes is for the Republicans to yell the equivalent of "you touched the piece, you have to move it!" for him to get sidetracked into a "didn't touch it", "did too" match.

ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS need to be remided that we didn't elect them so that they could run for reelection. We elected them to represent us and govern us in a responsible and mature manner. This term. Now.”
New Rule: Float Like Obama, Sting Like Ali

New Rule: Float Like Obama, Sting Like Ali

Commented Sep 11, 2009 at 21:40:36 in Comedy

“NOW. People need to stop complaining about what the Dems aren't doing, and SHOW them themselves. And I don't mean organizing to attack the Dems, cause when you do that you're ignoring the Right and letting them lounge around with a drink. Why can't you see that??? Organize against their message, and help the Dems do what they should be doing. Do it for yourself and get the message out about healthcare. That's better than attacking Obama, whom I saw busting his butt to go to townhall meetings and is still meeting ppl behind the scenes only to get blasted by so-called supporters! Think about it.”

freelyb replied on Sep 11, 2009 at 22:29:42

“It's those meetings with people behind the scenes that are throwing some of us.”
New Rule: Float Like Obama, Sting Like Ali

New Rule: Float Like Obama, Sting Like Ali

Commented Sep 11, 2009 at 21:35:54 in Comedy

“I think the firing of Van Jones WAS a decisive decision, it just wasn't one that you like!! I liked Jones, but I was relieved when he was let go. Don';t you remember how last week was? It was the most stressful EVER for the Pres with you Progressives on the Left and those on the right breathing down his neck at the same time!!! The Jones thing was turning into another distraction. Since it was the least important thing Obama needed to deal with, I don't blame him for thinking he's willing to throw away that "issue" and focus on the more important ones.”

freelyb replied on Sep 11, 2009 at 22:27:58

“I think he could pis* on your leg, and you'd be ok with it.”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 18:04:37 in Politics

“except that it is still only the first 8 months. You can't change that, even if it inconveniences you.”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 18:03:40 in Politics

“so, yeah. Keep listening to Cenk, and being "his" sheep. In November of 2012, you'll be stuttering, "but, but, but...CENK SAID!!!": Yep, go 'head!”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 18:02:38 in Politics

“you're wasting your vote. You've had DECADES to give a 3rd party a chance, and never did it. Hey, maybe you will. But in the meantime, let the next three years pass before talking about your next Presidential candidate. I swear in a few months, you guys will look at how your overreacting and realized how high you were jumping off the gun. In 8 months you've declared his whole term a failure. He didn't even need the Repubs to do that, when you're willing to do that for them, lol. Whether he's liberal enough for you or not, the only thing you'll get instead is a Rethug in 2012. Think of it, you'll have a liberal side that has 50% for Obama and 50% against, and the conservatives are united against Obama. Sounds like another win for them. Meanwhile, the morons who thought voting for a 3rd party was enough will find all they did was make it easier to have the Rethugs have a majority cause the Libs were so split. You betcha!!!”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 17:56:35 in Politics

“those guys will never be elected. This is the reason you're mad at Obama, your unwillingness or inability to think outside of your little box. You expect everything liberal to be done, and for any Democratic President to find it easy to do so. Your country isn't liberal enough to get liberal changes done quickly. Obama was lucky to win with a 53% polling, you really think Kucinich will get nearly as much in America? If that were so, your country wouldn't be in nearly as much trouble as it is. As it stands,your nation is divided between psychotic idiots(Rethugs) and can't learn from history idiots(progressives, liberals and Democrats). As long as that is true, you will never get what you want, at least not overnight. I still have the belief that it is not easy trying to govern and please a nation where no one can be pleased, cause you're too divided. You please one side, lose half the nation, you make a middle compromise, liberals and conservatives say you're too much to the other side. Give Obama a break, a compromise may be needed for at least 6 months, if Obama doesn't deliver then and add the public option afterward somehow, then yell. But in all eulogies, they said Ted Kennedy operated by finding compromises(at first).Keep that in mind, or nothing will get done.”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 17:48:32 in Politics

“LOL. Faulty math, all you do is list a few of the things he did wrong, and do not show anything to refute why the math is supposedly faulty. I can mention the fact that he's allowing stem cell research, and make that look like the only decision he's ever made now can't I? That's what you're doing on the other side. Look at the side,it is a site many of you progressives looked at and believed until now that you've decided to turn against him. You can turn on him, but i find it hypocritical that it is now "faulty" now that it doesn't help your point.”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 13:22:10 in Politics

“You don't control the senate anymore.”

bbbear replied on Sep 03, 2009 at 15:02:02

“True. No matter which faction is in the majority, dems or repubs, the Corporate Party, which is fueled by the US Oligarchy via Big Money Lobby always controls both the Senate and the House. Still, provided they tow the line, the member of the two factions of the Corporate party, dems and repubs, can retire as relatively rich people, or vastly increase their wealth by hiring on as Lobbyist, and so can their children and other relatives.. ... Ah, what a sweet deal”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 13:19:16 in Politics

“I just took a quick look at POLITIFACT website. 40 PROMISES KEPT, vs. 7 BROKEN. More promises kept than broken, minus the sub categories in between. But as for what is flat out kept or broken, he's doing pretty good. AMAZING, cause when I read what Cenk says, or what many here are saying, you'd think he kept only 4 PROMISES OUT OF 100. Oh, such a failure indeed, that bad Obama!!!”

AnotherMcIntosh replied on Sep 03, 2009 at 17:33:12

bbbear replied on Sep 03, 2009 at 15:07:33

“Ah, another blissful sheeple... What the hell, it may not be good for your health, but at least you'll feel peaceful as you're led to the slaughter house... I guess the only difference between the two of us is that I'll continue to rant and rave until the final hammer.”

Indy750 replied on Sep 03, 2009 at 13:39:39

“Do you think we fall for your faulty math? Do you equate the importance of each promise "kept" vs those "broken"? Do you equate the importance of an easy executive order signed with say...the multi trillion dollar bank giveaway? How about the foreclosure sham that sounded good but was a trillion dollar giveaway to large banks? How about the decision to nation build (vietnam anyone?) in Afghanistan and Iraq? How about all the a.s.s kissing to those who want nothing but to take this President down? Failure? INDEED.”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 13:15:13 in Politics

“what track record? Nonsense.”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 13:14:08 in Politics

“THANK YOU!!!”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 13:13:15 in Politics

“I understand being disappointed, I am too about the stimulus in particular. But it is not pointless to keep pointing out that it is still his first year. To tell you the truth, I think his problem is being overly ambitious. I hate to say it, but I think the Repubs were right when they said he's trying to tackle too much. Multi-tasking is good, but know your limits, no matter how eager you are to keep your promises. He wanted to get a stimulus done quickly, so he caved in to Pelosi and her pet liberal projects being added to the stimulus, and caved to Rethugs and added un-needed tax cuts. So much money spent , but not enough designated for job creation. Big mistake. Then, all the other issues he tried to do this year, culminating in this last effort, HCR. He should only focus on that after fixing the economy, with a second and correctly aimed 2nd stimulus package. Then he should have TAKEN his time, and worked out a PLAN for HCR, instead of having aimless town halls and allowing the Rethugs to say what's in it, and the "Progressives" to make all worst case scenario assumptions and scream and panic.”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 13:07:44 in Politics

“so, how is this waiting until he speaks?”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 13:06:36 in Politics

“Is this really about HC? Or about "progressives"? Stop speaking in "team" language. You will never have a "progressive" country for god's sake, or at least not any time soon. The country is not only still very conservative, but you now only have 59 Dems. DEms are no longer filibuster proof. Which is why you need to spend your energy attacking the blue dogs with phone calls,instead of whining about Obama. If Obama cannot get this done, I will gladly stand alone in blaming the "progressive liberal whiners" to my hearts content. Use that energy helping him get the public option, not just fighting him.”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 13:01:32 in Politics

“thank you!!”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 13:00:36 in Politics

“THIS is what's happening. Instead of backing him up, liberals like Cenk are whining and abandoning ship. No wonder he's cow-towing. His source of strength and bargaining chip against the Blue Dogs and Repubs have abandoned him. THEY need to call Congress and make threats against their blue dog Senators. Remind them that they've lost a member and now are only 59 Dem senators. They have little power again, and will be blamed if they don't chip in with Obama to help their party get this victory for America. Liberals should be telling them that. I only blame Obama for not reading my advice last month to make a DAMN COMMERCIAL listing all the reasons a public option is needed. Duh!”
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Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal

Commented Sep 03, 2009 at 12:56:18 in Politics

“I am not thinking "why did I support this guy", but I am very disappointed and can now agree with Cenk that he needs to get tough. I do think he still intends to get UHC, but perhaps his thinking is that it must come in increments. Lets face it, even if he gets tough, he doesn't have the votes in Congress right now, nor does he have enough capital with the public to threaten them with(which is why you Dems shouldn't have abandoned him in the polls). I think you guys should let him do this the way he can right now, and let him take the time to come up with a better HC plan later. Obama's weakness is when he tries to do things bold and quick, he doesn't plan well and can't fight effectively(which is why the August and September deadlines were big mistakes). He needs to take his time, come up with a way to get under the Blue and Repubs later on, but it can only work with you guys behind him. He can't do it otherwise. Honeslty, he's been messing up the economy, with a stimulus that was too small. He should have spent the last two months creating jobs, and coming to fight for HCR with you all later on.”
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Lessons in Leadership: Why Obama Needs to Brush Up on His FDR

Commented Aug 25, 2009 at 12:17:49 in Politics

“He makes the changes he needs by increments, and taking small careful half steps that accumulate. That was his Primaries strategy when he focused on winning small states instead of big ones. I'm not saying blindly trust the Prez, but why can't it occur to you that there's (maybe)more than meets the eye? That he may compromise today, and push ppl out of the way tomorrow? Also, why are ppl hung up on saying "Repub this or that", when it is really the BLUE DOGS he's probably "conceding" to? I keep reading ppl whining the Repubs have no power, so why concede, well why is it only the Repubs on your radar to blame? You guys are not helping the situation. In the meantime, you're spending all your energy attacking the Pres, when attacking the blue dogs is what will help you get what you want. They must listen to the constituents, and might if you MAKE THEM.”

canadiansoccermom replied on Aug 25, 2009 at 12:48:02

“You're right, change is slow and I believe he has it figured out ten steps ahead of everyone else.”

TucsonEd replied on Aug 25, 2009 at 12:34:06

“Yes, I'm impatient, I put up with 8 years of W leading us to the brink of ruin. O wasn't my first choice for president, but I thought ANYBODY has got to be better than W. Well it feels a lot like more of the same, except for W pushed through what he wanted and O says he wants it but does nothing about it. We're still torturing, we're still bailing out banks with no oversight, we're still not bring W and his minions to justice.............I could go on but it only despresses me.
O could make the Blue Dogs jump in line, he has that attack dog Rahm to do that. We've been emailing our senators, giving money for commericals that we want the public option and so far........nothing positive. WHY did O allow this to go into to the summer when I KNEW exactly what would happen.....................he should have too. It feels like he really doesn't want to do anything but pander to Insurance and Big Pharma.
Yes, I'm impatient I wanted CHANGE not more of the same. Seems I was right to no make O my first choice, I only voted for him cause I couldn't bring myself to vote for a Republican and I wanted to feel like I was doing something to make CHANGE happen. Was it all for nothing? feels like it.”
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Lessons in Leadership: Why Obama Needs to Brush Up on His FDR

Commented Aug 25, 2009 at 12:17:02 in Politics

“I really must say that Americans are too damned impatient, and that's why they're in the trouble they're in. Look at some of you, already declaring his presidency a failure and saying how "HIllary was right". Hillary was COMPETING against him, and said whatever it took to win! Duh. As for him not being tough enough, maybe he isn't doing it in a way that is obvious to you guys. You guys are used to brute force, whereas anyone who paid attention to Obama's senate work would know already that he always got things done by giving a little here and taking a little there. It is never a big, bold, quick move.”

ConjureMan replied on Aug 25, 2009 at 17:12:30

“What U gon'na say when we ain't got know healthcares...”

mcmchugh99 replied on Aug 25, 2009 at 13:03:22

“I never cared for Hillary and Bill, and never supported them in any primary. I thought in voting for Obama that we would NOT get another Clinton-DLC administration.

I this, many of us have been disappointed.”

mairs replied on Aug 25, 2009 at 12:49:10

“I agree with you to a certain extent. I would say that incremental and subtle change would work if the opposition were sane and logical. In this case the forces allayed against him are pretending to negotiate when all they want is his total failure. They have showed their hand, and unfortunately sometimes brute leadership force is needed to counteract brute hysteria and untruths.”
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How Tough is Our President?

Commented Aug 18, 2009 at 19:49:06 in Politics

“but like Clinton said, not compromise can at times lead to NOTHING being done. Also, I must point out it isn't the Repubs he's comp to, it is the Blue Dogs.”
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How Tough is Our President?

Commented Aug 18, 2009 at 19:46:46 in Politics

“you are judging much too quickly. Change is incremental in Obama's book, he said so many times. I'm not saying I know we can trust him, but you're jumping to conclusions too quickly. The HC battle still ensues, and yet you've already declared the outcome and him the traitor. He has said he's still pursuing HC reform, so why not just wait and see how this plays out, and in the meantime, do your OWN campaigning to guarantee he and Congress do what they should? You must also remember you will not get all you want right away. Yes, he made liberals alot of promises, but none of them will happen overnight. It takes time to achieve HC reform, it takes time to give gays all their rights(which I think he's doing in a slow careful way to decr. backlash), it takes time to do alot of the things he promised. He's America, not Liberal-land, he must govern ALL. Also, he has other probs like the Econ which he must fix first, it is STILL only 7 mos, you can't declare so soon failure until more time has passed, he will do more with more effort and time.”
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How Tough is Our President?

Commented Aug 18, 2009 at 19:38:41 in Politics

“now, just cause he isn't "tough" in your book doesn't mean he has "no passion". We knew all along Obama marches to his own drum. He doesn't show temperament the way you or I do.”

tommycarr replied on Aug 18, 2009 at 20:14:07

“He doesn't show intellect either. My son makes better arguments for candy that our President makes for health care reform.”
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How Tough is Our President?

Commented Aug 18, 2009 at 19:36:51 in Politics

“LOL. You didn't even bother reading the article at all, you just jumped in with your irrelevant talking points.”

GoodConservative replied on Aug 18, 2009 at 20:03:51

“Mr Reich points out that Obama's "favorables" have fallen a bit but just a few lines later says most americans like him the more they see him. What? He sounds confused. You are beside yourself wondering what happened. Start tuning in to the AM band and find out before it happens.”
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