“themanclaw: I INFORM that the AR-15 can fire 3 to 4 rounds per second. With a 30 round magazine it is a devastating battlefield combat weapon and NEVER should be available for civilian use to hunt game animals with. Your bolt-action rifle will suffice . . . ”
themanclaw on Mar 18, 2013 at 12:19:40
“Despite me asking the question 4 times down, you have continuously dodged it. Since the AR-15 has the same rate of fire as other semi-automatic guns (by definition of being semi-automatic) what do you think makes it more deadly than all the others?
As I said, the 'only need for hunting' argument will be valid the day deer break into people's homes and rape and murder their families.
And also again, I will ask, do you support banning all guns except for bolt-action rifles and pump-action shotguns (a near total gun ban)? If so, how would you go about making hundreds of millions of guns simply disappear from circulation, as we all know that making something illegal doesn't make it go away, otherwise we wouldn't have lost the war on drugs.
You keeping ignoring these key questions on which your argument is contingent. Do you or do you not have any answer for them? Why even bother holding your positions if you can't answer very simple questions that would compromise it?”
“The Vietnam War began on VJ Day in August of 1945
when Harry S.Truman stabbed Ho Chi Minh in the back
and totally financed France in its imperialist attempt
to regain its stranglehold over the People and Land
He also made a secret deal with Stalin to split Korea
in half . . . one of the most heinous crimes of WWII !”
Unca Wiggilie on Mar 18, 2013 at 07:10:57
“French Indochina was part of the French colonial empire
in southeast Asia. A federation ot the three Vietnamese
regions, as well as Cambodia, was formed in 1887.
Laos was added in 1893.”
bklynsparrow on Mar 17, 2013 at 23:25:34
“Interesting- I did not know that. I thought the french were in Laos first?”
. . . from the very pages of 'The Republican Pro-Life Manifesto' :
"Fetuses of the world, unite; you have nothing to lose but your afterbirth!"
Patriotswrath on Mar 18, 2013 at 09:18:58
“While they plan on starving children who get the only food theyy get, at school. I can't bear these Pro-Lifers, who are up and ready to bomb the heck out of children anywhere in the world, but all ready to starve our own children, right here!
“It is not necessary for the Bushmaster AR-15 to fire any faster than three or for rounds per second. The terrible shooting at Newtown is sufficent lethal evidence that no legitimate hunter need have more than a bolt-action rifle!”
I somehow seem to remember someone else
many years ago, who waged an illegal war of aggression
against a wannabe friendly country to America.
Back in the early sixties it was, I think he was a Texan . . .
Around fifty-eight thousand of America's finest
died in it . . .”
bklynsparrow on Mar 17, 2013 at 13:30:41
“Yes- you are so right. And I should have remembered that- especially since my big brother is a Vietnam Vet. I think what I meant was that, unlike Vietnam where we were drawn into it by our diplomatic ties (horrible idea), Going into Iraq was so capricious and without a precedent. It was like George woke up one morning and said, "Oh, hey! I can invade Iraq!"”
“Oh! So you want to ban ALL semi-automatic weapons. Because you time and time again that have ignored the fact that semi-automatic weapons, by definition, all fire at the same rate and stated nobody should have anything that fires that quickly, which would. You seem to think the AR-15 can lay down more fire than other semi-autos, but give ZERO evidence for that claim, despite me being very explicitly clear on your argument hinging on that.
Anyways, ok, no hunter needs a semi-automatic weapon. That argument will be justified the day deer start breaking into people's homes and raping and murdering their families.
Also, if you want to ban all semi-automatic guns, that is a political position its perfectly acceptable for your to hold. That said, before you do advocate for that, I think it wouldn't make sense unless you could overcome the following obstacles:
a) Rally 3/4 of the states to amend the Constitution.
b) Find a way to make the hundreds of millions of semi-auto guns out there magically disappear, because, making something illegal doesn't make it cease to exist.
c) teach people ways to defend themselves when an attacker with a knife or illegal gun (which there will be plenty of) is trying to kill them without having a pistol on their persons to fight back.”
The SELECT-FIRE version of the AR-15 entered
the US military system as the M16 rifle!
Definition of select-fire: A selective fire firearm has
at least one semi-automatic and one automatic mode.”
themanclaw on Mar 16, 2013 at 23:47:15
“the HP comment system aflicts liars and knowledge-spreaking folks alike. yes, the ar-15 did enter the military after it was evolved to have select fire. and yes, that is what selective fire means. as you may know, the ar-15 does not have that-- it can only fire semi automatic, like most other civilian guns. as i said before, semi automatic means it can fire one round every time you pull the trigger. by definition, one semi-automatic gun cannot have a higher rather of fire than another, yet you still seem to impy that rule is exempt when it comes to the ar-15 again why is that the case/”
“The AR-15 fires 3 to 4 rounds per second. The aforementioned shooter had to wait for innocents to come into his field of fire. I would have loved to have been equipted with this extremely dangerous battlefield weapon when I was a combat infantryman serving in FECOM. The AR-15 entered the US military system as the M-16 rifle. They are essentially still the same weapon. Alleging they only have 'military style cosmetics' is disseminating false, harmfiul information!”
themanclaw on Mar 16, 2013 at 21:54:53
“You keep saying that they're basically the same rifle and how I'm spreading a disgusting lie. And yet, you didn't address a single point I made describing why that isn't the case, nor have you answered any of the questions that are essential for you claim. I'll lay it out clearly to make it easier for you:
-The AR-15 and M16 are quite different on the mere fact that the AR-15 cannot fire burst/full auto (and cannot be "easily" modified to do so. In addition, the innards are also quite different.
-The AR-15 is semi-automatic, which I'm sure you know means one round every time the trigger is pulled, yet you seem to be implying that you can unleash more rounds with the AR-15 than other semi-automatic weapons. How can that be so? Is there some mechanism on the AR-15 I have not discovered that allows my finger to move exponentially faster?
So, with this in mind, am I supposed to take your saying that I'm spreading dangerous lies on authority despite me having a good amount of evidence to the contrary? Or do you have any evidence that the AR-15 is somehow able to shoot more rounds in rapid succession than other semi-automatics?”