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Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 03:22:09 in Politics

“will not work... You need to create demand first. I have no reason to hire an employee I dont need unless you pay 100% of his cost and overhead, otherwise its still aloss!.. stick with increasing MFG via infrastructure, solar and wind farm construction and etc.

maybe a job credit after you start increaing demand,,, that lowers my breakeven point so that I hirer sooner.


Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 03:18:28 in Politics

“No its socialistic with national industrial policies and 4 week min paid vacations.­. and paid for college..

I would rather have the task of making a little less than the task of re industrial­izing....

regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 03:15:09 in Politics

“You assume that even with great training that all are suited for sitting at a computer all day long and thats what they want to do! or that there is that many such jobs availiable!

India has 200 milion well educated and 800 million not so well educated if at all..

In 2001 the dean of georgia tech, MIT of the south, said that he was not even sure that there was a need for an engineering school in America anymore.. they had trouble placing ther graudates other than Civil engineers.

We are graduating twice as many gratuates as we are creating such jobs and then filing half of what we create with H1Bs.

look at the number of enginers being gratuated in India and China alone.. its more than the rest of the world needed 20 years ago. And they work for under ten K.


Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 03:07:20 in Politics

“Pls show me the hoover Stimulus plan or even an attempt to change healthcare.


get a grip .. its ten months.. you cant build an outhouse in ten months.. and them look at the congress..­. It was a fight to evenget a small stimulus package through it....

You want jobs then buy American.. cause thats the only way to get jobs back.


Regards”

Abraxas79 replied on Nov 25, 2009 at 01:14:00

“What I am saying is that Obama is ineffectual just like Hoover. If it is 10 months or 10 years, this will not change.

Healthcare as with the stimulus has all been the work of congress. To date we still do not know what Obama wants in a healthcare bill. Does he want a public option or not ? Anti-Trust or not ? Abortion coverage or not ? The answer is that doesn't matter what the bill contains, as long as Obama gets a bill to sign he will happy to do it and call it "health care reform". Obama is a like a blade of grass in the wind, bowing to which ever way the political winds are blowing. That is why he voted 80% of the time in the senate as "present" and tossed away his friend and Pastor of 20 years due to political expediency. He will never take a stand on issue this poltically unpopular.

Obama has no convictions whatsoever. An empty suit.”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 03:02:39 in Politics

“That was the catalyst and the 4/Gallon gas was part of that. An economy running one trillion trade deficts and creating no private sector jobs and trippling the national debt is going to implode. Its not sustainable!

14% of the economy under Bush was built on debt and a credit bubble... negative savings. When that bubble economy burst, the jobs associated with that EXTRA credit/and government spending went away leaving bare an economy that inspite of a 50% devaluation in the dollar had lost 7.5 million MFG jobs.. the core of an economy.

There was already 5% higher unemployment than under Clinton...­. just that under Bush they decided that the workforce was 5% smaller than under Clinton.

regards

.”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 02:55:23 in Politics

“The most raises passed in 8 years was under the repug adminstrationn as was the most earmarks.


regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 02:48:03 in Politics

“WEll Dali....

Thats the Reagan nonsense that was spread in the late 1980s and early 1990s...

That we did not need to produce things.. we could procxess the worlds informatio­n... now being done in India if you have not noticed.

Thats easier to outsource than even MFG! We import more technology than we export. And by the way not everyone will want to or is suited to sitting at a computer all day long...

In the last 8 years only 25% of our graduates in engineering and the sceinces have found josb int hose areas.. which dispells the idea we can just process informatio­n.'

Those that were retrained in computer programmig in the 90s.. are now unemployed.

Pls look to germany as an example of how to make things and pay high wages!

Regards
'


.”

adamNsteve replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 03:00:17

“Yes, but Germany's economy is still of a quasi neo-merchantilist type. It's whole economic system also faces structural pressures to realign itself to one less hooked on exports.”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 02:38:27 in Politics

“try tothink fo the thing you would do, that could get through Congress.

46% voted for mccain and more of the same that got us here...

We the people are not marching in the streets for the kind of change required.. we cant even get single payer on the table..Oba­ma was right about that.

Are you trying to buy made in Aemerica products.. the few left.. to create job demand for Americans?


regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 02:27:47 in Politics

“Based on Bogus GDP numbers from the Bush admin.. of just a 4% drop in GDP which had to be restated to negative 6.1% as did their houshold employment numbers which were overstated.


And i'm sure we can find simliar erorson theeconopmy andwhat the numbers would be under reagan.

Its hard to top Bush's 2 month and 2 billion for the iraq war.. that sabout a 10,000 percent rate of error.


And Bush sad his tax cuts would create jobs.. no private sector jobs created in 8 years

Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 02:23:37 in Politics

“Well unles they were busy re regulating wallstreet, changing our free trade agreements, setting up a national industrial policy and VAT taxes for export rebates- doing the things the r4st of the wrold does, and increasing taxes to pay for the Bush wars... none of which you would be fore.. then what else should they be doing that would bring back industry to the U.S. andpls dont list more of the same failed polices that got us here.

If you want to see what our healthcare system has to do with jobs.. look at Detroit ( the future of American cities) and just across the lake in Canada!

Regards.”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 02:11:01 in Politics

“You lose all crediabilty when you say 12 trillion in debt and fail to mention that 90% of that occured under repugs.

It was Reagan who said deficits dont matter (not a Democrat) and that we dont need to make things we can just process the worlds informatio­n.. now being done in India by the way.


And the countries that are beating our butts are communist and socialisti­c.. They make the stuff we buy and have been loaing us the money... so how does your conservatism account for their succes and our increasing failure?


Regards”

Pupadup4oBama replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 05:15:12

“great post!”

zwitterion replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 02:21:36

“If there was even the smallest chance of penetrating the dogma that makes up the "liberal mind" I would explain to you the reality of the economy, however...­...

Regards”

Polyh3dron replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 02:19:28

“Thank you, I couldn't have said it better myself.”

Polyh3dron replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 02:19:09

“Thank you viper I couldn't have said it better myself.”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 02:06:13 in Politics

“reform healthcare w/o the government. LOL.. thats what got us here.

We are the only country in the world w/o single payer and ours cost twice as much. So far the government systems are much better than our system at half the cost. No one else who looked at our system selects it. The majority of DOCs wants single payer, the majority of Fortune 500 companies want single payer.. and its given as the biggest reason , not having single payer for companies leaving the U.S.

Bush said private Medicare would be cheaper. So Repugs established the Private medicare Advantage HMOs. They cost 15% more than government medicare does. They deny tratment 20% of the time which government medicare does not, they pay the DOCs/Hosiptals 20-30% less and add 40% more overhead to doctors offices dealing with their denials and getting permission to treat from them.

In otherwords the facts and actual outcomes dont support your Private helathcare" system.

How does paying 35% of every healthcare dollar to an isnurance company that treats no one.. make for better healthcare? How does paying 3-5 times more for the same drug as anywhere else in the world make for better healthcare or make us more competative?

regards


.”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:57:28 in Politics

“So doing more of what Bush did will solve the problems..­LOL.

I'm in texas, there is plenty of oil drilling. Did you know that the lack of demand for oil/gas is so low now that refineries are being closed down.

Ok, with Nuclear plants.. it takes ten years to build one...

We are mining plenty of coal in the U.S... have you ever lived where they mine coal or seen the health of the workers... have you seen China's environment and why they are now pursuing green technoligies as is in Germany?

The U.S. corporate taxes actually paid after deductions is the seond lowest in the world..so that idea makes no sense, just increases deificits. By the way many corps flock to China where they have to give a 50% interest to the communist government­.. so at 50% tax is not hurting China.

Obama did cut the taxes on the Middleclas­s.. see stimulus plan.

We reduced capital gain taxes by 33% under Bush and corp taxes and this is what we got...! LOL

How does my not paying a tax on the gain of a share of a company adding jobs in China, create jobs here. Just increases the deficits as under Bush.

Regards”

CommunistUtopia replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:10:53

“Demand is low because the economy is awful.

10 years to build a nuclear plant. OK. Let's get started, the sooner the better. It will also impact energy prices since the threat of new competition and technology will lower prices.

If workers don't to mine for coal, the wages will increase until people will consider it. Law of Supply and Demand.

Not all companies in China are state run. China is not the only place a company could go. The idea that taxes don't impact behavior does not make sense. Do you go and try to pay higher taxes too?

There were no cuts in taxes in Obama's stimulus plan. No jobs either except government jobs.

Cutting taxes did no result in the problem, excess spending did.

Any other questions?”

Badfickle replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 02:06:05

“Speaking of Germany. Germany is betting massively on solar. In many cities as many as 1 in 3 houses have solar panels. They are now number 1 in solar power per capita. no emissions little maintenance and it's paying off for them.”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:45:11 in Politics

“And what did you think would ultimately happen when you deindistrialized America given that mFG jobs are the core of any major economy? And then outsourced high tech jobs...

a One trillion trade deficit is a transfer of wealth out of this country every year as is supporting 700 foreign bases (200 billion per year). Given the muiltplier effect of MFG jobs ( the highest at 5), thats a 5 trillion hit to the economy, a 30% loss in std of living and that trillion in loss wealth must be mae up by borrowing.

Try to buy something made in America.

Actually the trade deficit is worse because much of our exports are 3rd world raw material and agriculture which have low labor inputs. We ship out coal, iron and scrap and get computers back.


Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:37:07 in Politics

“yes you could have voted for McCain and Palin...

Its just ten months.. the Democrat majority is a myth since about ten of them are repugs in disguise in the senate.

I dont think you understand th scope of the problem or the almost complete deindstrialization of this country.. the foundation of all jobs... try to buy something made in America, thats a clue!.


Come up with things you think Obama should do.. and then see if you can get Congres to pass them.

regards”

senorlou replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 01:56:13

“Arresting Wall Street crooks by the truckload, stopping both wars ASAP (not putting in more troops), breaking up the banks”

paddio replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 01:44:25

“High Speed Rail and breaking up the Bi Box Stores for two!!!!”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:32:27 in Politics

“Doing nothing would be a signficant improvement over BUSH''s years of distructio­n...


Heck as he was burying us.. he decided to take the rest of the world down to...

Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:29:19 in Politics

“Of course you will show us the jobs that Bush tax cuts and trickle down were going to create under his tax cuts... the answer is however simple... not one single net private sector job in 8 years.

If you had ever really been in a business and set up new systems.. you would know that such reporting errors are normal... and he is stuck with BUSH's executive staff still in the middle and down..and the numbers come from contractors and the states....

Its an attempt to something that no one else has ever dared to do... provide close to real time resuts of a government program... Maybe its a mistake... in your case he is dealing with children who have no real world experience­..

You want accuracy.. how about the 2 months and 2 billion the iraq war was going to cost.. and about those WMDs...


Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:22:28 in Politics

“And under Reagan we stil made things. likeTVs, washing machines,clothes and hard drives, still some commerical ship building ... not anymore! Industry has been exported.. so the underlying foundation of any major country is now missing.

Also at the time of this great financial collapse .. people had negative savings for several years which was not tue back under reagan... so they could support themselves a bit longer, more people had health insurance, which cost far less.. less people were self employed and companies still valued employees.­. since they could not replace them with some one in India for 1/10th the cost..

Jobs coming back have been taking longer each recession since reaganomics. This time the damage is such they may not come back until we do away with reaganomics and re industrialize.

Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:15:06 in Politics

“140 out of 196 countries I have heard. 700 foreign bases dating back well over 60 years.

regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:13:23 in Politics

“Ron Paul is against Medicare and social security. Against single payer healthcare. he is my Congressman.


Against anything but free trade. He is for unregluated markets... you should here him on Larry Kudlows show... Laryy loves him. And thats what you would expect from a libertarian anti government person.. which means most of the time.. he is a repug except on borrow and spend and wars.. He is against a progressive tax structure. believes bilionares should pay the same tax rate.

Regards”

ChicagoLibertarian replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 01:17:00

“I wish Ron Paul was my congressman! Mine is Luis Gutierrez *megabarf*. ;)”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:07:46 in Politics

“it was as phoney as other Bush numbers however such as the cost of private medicare Drug program or the iraq war.

Under Bush , the unemplyment number was based on 5% less of the population being in the workforce than under Clinton.

And just like 4th qtr GDP was understated by 50%, the Household employment numbers which include self employed were overstated­... and thus when corrected last month caused the huge increase in unemployment numbers even though the job loss was the less in 2 years.

Did you not find it funny that uder Bush your could lose the construction industry..­lose 3 million jobs in his first 2 years, lose 7.5 million MFG jobs, not create by 3-4 million jobs in 8 years compared to Clinton 22.5 million and have low unemplyment numbers..l­ol


regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:02:18 in Politics

“On one hand we have 45% of the population that believes government cant create jobs and on the other hand 100% blaming Obama for not creating enough jobs.


Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 01:00:25 in Politics

“Wrong, the disaster plan in such a large disaster does not rely on the local talent. Its expected they will be wiped out, no equipment, communication and no ability to respond.

Pls also note that LA national guard and their equipment was in iraq. nat guard readines at less than 30%.

never the less its hard to explain how with 25 military bases with in a couple of hundred miles we could not get water via helicopters to a place with ten pads in 5 days, but Jesse Jackson could get water there and I could.

Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 00:53:39 in Politics

“good analogy. Still repaiingr the damage on my house from IKE. That was 12 hours of damage. This country has had 30 years of economic de indsutrialization that must be fixed.. and not one thing required to fix that will be supported by repugs. they want MOTS will get you the same results.

Regards”
Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Will The Unemployment Disaster Be Obama's Katrina?

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 00:51:28 in Politics

“because ten of them or at least 5 are really repugs from small consevative states ... that have more pigs than voters,


Regards”

HollidayMD replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 01:18:54

“pigs are smart creatures-voters not so much.”

zoooni replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 01:00:12

“Fanned!!!”
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