“When there are so many wonderful, exciting, interesting and productive things you can do with your life, I think you would have be a complete lunatic to choose to be an openly gay seminarian.
But then, I've zero interest in determining how many angels and dance on a the head of a pin.”
wisstein2 on Jul 14, 2013 at 23:18:46
“You might not be concerned about how many angels can dance on the head of pin - no problem, I don't think anyone does.
There is one big question you might be interested in. When you die (as all humans will) and stand before the Judgment Seat of God to give an account for your life - do you think it might be good to know how to have your sins forgiven???”
Jeremy Bursac on Jul 14, 2013 at 22:39:30
“Didn't you mean at an evangelical seminary?
Even if you eschew organized religion, the fact is there are plenty of glbt affirming seminaries and rabbinical institutions.”
Jul 14, 2013 at 11:35:51
“Unfortunately that was from a slave-owning misogynist perspective. Since the definition of "equal" seems to have improved a bit, I think a reconsideration of what constitutes peers might be in order. Perhaps something that more closely resembles a larger slice of America.”
Professor73 on Jul 14, 2013 at 15:32:28
“Your comment reminds of one of my students who was totally convinced the black community was 60% of the entire US population!
it seems to me that the definition of "equal" and "citizenship" were dramatically changed with the 14th and 19th Amendments. However, the definition of "peers" remains the same - CITIZEN!”
Jul 14, 2013 at 10:39:54
“Is it an either or proposition? They have a right to be disheartened by both matters.”
Shuey37 on Jul 14, 2013 at 10:48:12
“Re-read my post. I never said it was an either/or. Nor did I say they shouldn't be disheartened about TM being dead. I just said black parents in general should be even more disheartened by the hundreds of black on black killings.”
“The problem isn't the information he's leaked. That stuff was common knowledge to anyone paying attention to what the (horribly rushed and poorly thought out) Patriot Act made legal, and has been reported in detail over the last decade. The problem is that took classified information and property to another country, which is a bit problematic when you've got half a million other people that are also entrusted to not do the same. If you permit one to do that without ramifications, then how do you stop the other 499,999? That being said, I don't see why his punishment should be all that severe. I appreciate that his flight of fancy has gotten some people to understand how lousy the Patriot Act is, and gotten at least some more discussion of it going.
The hero worship has been ludicrous, though. It wouldn't have been so bad, but the "Benghazi Benghazi" crowd latched onto it and teamed up with.... frankly, I don't know who...the group that only reacts and doesn't read?”
“Jeez. I didn't much care about this 35 years ago when it first started, nor last month when she made "news" (a term used very loosely) with this, nor this week's version. Maybe he's gay. Maybe he's not. He belongs to an uber-creepy homophobic church, but It seems to me he's been pretty gay-friendly. I guess....I just can't care too much. You need some fresh material, Margaret!”