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2009: The Things I Want to Forget
Commented Dec 28, 2009 at 19:04:38 in Home
“I would like to forget the Huff Post's blogger's and commentor's free for all impatient and mostly unrealistic attacks on the President for not establishing a progressive Utopia in his first year.
I would like to forget so called Huff Post progressives and their ammnesia about who the real enemies of a progressive political agenda are: The just say no, Republicans in Congress, who support and enable, the 24/7 hate and failure propaganda from Fox/Limbau
But most of all I will never forget or forgive the Democrats including the President for rationalizing their cowardice in investigating, exposing and prosecuting, Bush/Chene
I would like to forget so called Huff Post progressives and their ammnesia about who the real enemies of a progressive political agenda are: The just say no, Republicans in Congress, who support and enable, the 24/7 hate and failure propaganda from Fox/Limbau
But most of all I will never forget or forgive the Democrats including the President for rationalizing their cowardice in investigating, exposing and prosecuting, Bush/Chene
nananance replied on Dec 28, 2009 at 19:36:09
“Hear, hear, for your last paragraph, I don't know any Democrats other than those in the administration who want George W. Bush and the other criminals in his crew to get a pass on shredding the Constitution.
I wasn't surprised when Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon but I certainly didn't expect Obama to quickly decide to forgive and forget the indictable offenses of the man who came closer to destroying our nation than any other president in my lifetime.”
I wasn't surprised when Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon but I certainly didn't expect Obama to quickly decide to forgive and forget the indictable offenses of the man who came closer to destroying our nation than any other president in my lifetime.”
RepugsOut08 replied on Dec 28, 2009 at 19:34:02
“"I would like to forget the Huff Post's blogger's and commentor's free for all impatient and mostly unrealistic attacks on the President for not establishing a progressive Utopia in his first year."
You don't understand. No one expected Obama to have corrected all the problems he inherited by now. It's that, on major issues like health care reform, he didn't even try. Do you really think that anyone enjoys having to recognize what a disappointment Obama's been? He really may have been this nation's last hope, and it's heartbreaking to see what a Republican-lite President he's turned out to be.
"But most of all I will never forget or forgive the Democrats including the President for rationalizing their cowardice in investigating, exposing and prosecuting, Bush/Chene
Now you know how the rest of us feel.
On health care reform. On credit card reform. On "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." On closing Gitmo and Bagram. On not repealing the Bush era attact on our domestic freedoms. On escalating the war in Afghanistan, as we're being terrorized by a couple of thugs operating out of Nigeria. On pandering to Wall Street and the banking industry.
The list goes on, but it's too sad to keep thinking about.....
You don't understand. No one expected Obama to have corrected all the problems he inherited by now. It's that, on major issues like health care reform, he didn't even try. Do you really think that anyone enjoys having to recognize what a disappointment Obama's been? He really may have been this nation's last hope, and it's heartbreaking to see what a Republican-lite President he's turned out to be.
"But most of all I will never forget or forgive the Democrats including the President for rationalizing their cowardice in investigating, exposing and prosecuting, Bush/Chene
Now you know how the rest of us feel.
On health care reform. On credit card reform. On "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." On closing Gitmo and Bagram. On not repealing the Bush era attact on our domestic freedoms. On escalating the war in Afghanistan, as we're being terrorized by a couple of thugs operating out of Nigeria. On pandering to Wall Street and the banking industry.
The list goes on, but it's too sad to keep thinking about.....
The Senate Health Care Bill: Leave No Special Interest Behind
Commented Dec 22, 2009 at 20:01:45 in Politics
“Guess who your next President is going to be while you cop out to "Independent land".
Your choice, Palin, Beck, or Gingrich. Nice job.
"Those who don't learn from the past are sure to repeat it" and I will add, repeat it with even worse.
When Bush ran against Gore Independent Land was Nadarland which gave us 8 years of Bush, Cheney and Rove. Nice Job bwalsh1.”
Your choice, Palin, Beck, or Gingrich. Nice job.
"Those who don't learn from the past are sure to repeat it" and I will add, repeat it with even worse.
When Bush ran against Gore Independent Land was Nadarland which gave us 8 years of Bush, Cheney and Rove. Nice Job bwalsh1.”
The Senate Health Care Bill: Leave No Special Interest Behind
Commented Dec 22, 2009 at 19:53:16 in Politics
“Well said 3rdCitizen. I can't believe any Democrat in their right mind would think this bill is what Obama wanted, but it is better then the current situation with so many uninsured and so many denied coverage for pre-existing conditions.
Arianna, you can't fix a broken and dysfunctional legislative process by killing this bill or any individual bill. Killing this bill is not going to change how special interests work. Nor change the Republicans "just say no" to all things Obama. Killing this bill is not going to give the Dems in the Senate a filabuster free 60 vote majority in the Senate for any better replacement bill. Killing this bill is a win for the hate and failure GOP and their lies and talking points. You know all this, yet you still chase the "perfect" to the advantage of anti liberal and anti Obama juggernaught.
The Republicans, and bums like Lieberman, and Nelson, are why this is an imperfect bill. Not the special interests. You should be venting at them.
Besides No child left behind, there was the equally bad bankruptcy bill and the incredibly expensive, $720 billion plan D medicare bill. Obama didn't pass any of those and he got 80 billion out of big Pharmacy when they didn't have to give a penny. Give him time his intentions and values are progressive. But he needs progressive support, for his evolutionary change. The right wing alternative to Obama is unthinkable.”
Arianna, you can't fix a broken and dysfunctional legislative process by killing this bill or any individual bill. Killing this bill is not going to change how special interests work. Nor change the Republicans "just say no" to all things Obama. Killing this bill is not going to give the Dems in the Senate a filabuster free 60 vote majority in the Senate for any better replacement bill. Killing this bill is a win for the hate and failure GOP and their lies and talking points. You know all this, yet you still chase the "perfect" to the advantage of anti liberal and anti Obama juggernaught.
The Republicans, and bums like Lieberman, and Nelson, are why this is an imperfect bill. Not the special interests. You should be venting at them.
Besides No child left behind, there was the equally bad bankruptcy bill and the incredibly expensive, $720 billion plan D medicare bill. Obama didn't pass any of those and he got 80 billion out of big Pharmacy when they didn't have to give a penny. Give him time his intentions and values are progressive. But he needs progressive support, for his evolutionary change. The right wing alternative to Obama is unthinkable.”
Leadership, Obama Style, and the Looming Losses in 2010: Pretty Speeches, Compromised Values, and the Quest for the Lowest Common Denominator
Commented Dec 22, 2009 at 12:36:31 in Politics
“The real disgrace is your lack of facts. But that is expected from Republicans. The Dems do have a majority in the House, but they don't have a filabuster proof majority in the Senate, which is sorely needed to pass any needed and meaningful legislation to solve the problems in this country caused by Bush, Cheney and Rove.
And the Supreme Court has 5 ultra conservative, Republican justices, only one that is truly a liberal and 3 others that are moderates. The two biggest and most influential states Ca. and NY have Republican Governors, as do many others.
No President or political party in the history of this country has had to contend with 24/7 media attacks from the likes of Fox, Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity trying to delegitimize even his citizenship and comparing him to Hitler and witch doctors with no acceptable avenue to push back.
No President or Political Party has ever been demonized or lied about so openly by their Republican opposition in Congress. No opposition party has ever openly wished for the failure of a President, the country, and pushed so overtly anti-American and anti government propaganda as the current Republican Party.”
And the Supreme Court has 5 ultra conservative, Republican justices, only one that is truly a liberal and 3 others that are moderates. The two biggest and most influential states Ca. and NY have Republican Governors, as do many others.
No President or political party in the history of this country has had to contend with 24/7 media attacks from the likes of Fox, Beck, Limbaugh and Hannity trying to delegitimize even his citizenship and comparing him to Hitler and witch doctors with no acceptable avenue to push back.
No President or Political Party has ever been demonized or lied about so openly by their Republican opposition in Congress. No opposition party has ever openly wished for the failure of a President, the country, and pushed so overtly anti-American and anti government propaganda as the current Republican Party.”
Leadership, Obama Style, and the Looming Losses in 2010: Pretty Speeches, Compromised Values, and the Quest for the Lowest Common Denominator
Commented Dec 22, 2009 at 12:14:38 in Politics
“Guess what Axlotl? You are not the base of the Democratic Party. So you can pick up your toys and go home because you didn't get your ice cream when you expected it. All during the Bush 8 years of reckless incompetence and dangerous corruption I thought how could Republicans be so stupid to support this?
And now I am seeing the same stupidity from the left in their attacks on Obama, their short memories of the past 8 years, their blinders to the real nut cases controlling the new Republican Party (even worse then Bush Cheney and Rove) and their complicity in letting these right wing crack pots back in power!”
And now I am seeing the same stupidity from the left in their attacks on Obama, their short memories of the past 8 years, their blinders to the real nut cases controlling the new Republican Party (even worse then Bush Cheney and Rove) and their complicity in letting these right wing crack pots back in power!”
Leadership, Obama Style, and the Looming Losses in 2010: Pretty Speeches, Compromised Values, and the Quest for the Lowest Common Denominator
Commented Dec 22, 2009 at 12:03:14 in Politics
“That's an irrelevant comparison, but even a football coach that takes over a program that has been run into the ground by the prior coach and inheirits bad players and failed schemes is allowed 2 to 3 years to show improvement, before fans turn against him.
No other President in the history of this once great country inheirited the mess 8 years of reckless, incompetent, and corrupt Republican governing created. Since we are still a democracy but no longer one that runs on consensus, thanks again to the just say no, hate and failure GOP and it's enablers, the needed political change Obama is trying to lead us to is a progressive evolution not a revolution!
But hey Noonan, if you think there are better leaders in the GOP, you deserve what your attacks on Obama is helping to bring about!
Oh yeah, now how many progressives like Prof Westen are taking to the streets to bring about change they desire? Zero!!! It's so much safer and convenient to email blog attacks from the ivory towers.”
No other President in the history of this once great country inheirited the mess 8 years of reckless, incompetent, and corrupt Republican governing created. Since we are still a democracy but no longer one that runs on consensus, thanks again to the just say no, hate and failure GOP and it's enablers, the needed political change Obama is trying to lead us to is a progressive evolution not a revolution!
But hey Noonan, if you think there are better leaders in the GOP, you deserve what your attacks on Obama is helping to bring about!
Oh yeah, now how many progressives like Prof Westen are taking to the streets to bring about change they desire? Zero!!! It's so much safer and convenient to email blog attacks from the ivory towers.”
Leadership, Obama Style, and the Looming Losses in 2010: Pretty Speeches, Compromised Values, and the Quest for the Lowest Common Denominator
Commented Dec 21, 2009 at 21:17:00 in Politics
“Yes, YOU ARE BEING WAY TO HARSH ON OBAMA! You and the rest of the so-called progressives bloggers on the Huff Post. Your passion and anger should be directed at the real barriers keeping Obama from pursuing progressive positions more agressively: For example the 24/7 barrage of hate and failure comming 24/7 from Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage, OReilly, Fox News, The WSJ, The Post etc. etc. This barrage with no push back from you and the rest of the one time Obama supporters is just adding fuel to the anti-Obama fire.
You should be angry at every single Republican in Congress who is trying to de-legitimize our first progressive President with their just say no to everything and their support of truly crackpot ideas such as the "bither movement" and the tea baggers. And their talking points calling Obama a Socialist and their anti-government hate talk.
You should be angry at Cheney, you should be pissed at Lieberman, you should be angry at Nelson and the blue dog Dems. Obama doesn't have 60 given votes in the Senate, to push any progressive position through. You should be angry at the mainstream media for giving Republicans and their failed ideas air time.
Obama has only been in office for a year. he inheirited and averted a near depression. He inheirited AFPak and Iraq and a deficit out of control and the job losses. By attacking him you are biting the hand that feeds our ideals.”
You should be angry at every single Republican in Congress who is trying to de-legitimize our first progressive President with their just say no to everything and their support of truly crackpot ideas such as the "bither movement" and the tea baggers. And their talking points calling Obama a Socialist and their anti-government hate talk.
You should be angry at Cheney, you should be pissed at Lieberman, you should be angry at Nelson and the blue dog Dems. Obama doesn't have 60 given votes in the Senate, to push any progressive position through. You should be angry at the mainstream media for giving Republicans and their failed ideas air time.
Obama has only been in office for a year. he inheirited and averted a near depression. He inheirited AFPak and Iraq and a deficit out of control and the job losses. By attacking him you are biting the hand that feeds our ideals.”
adamNsteve replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 22:05:33
“Re: "...way too harsh on Obama."
disagree.”
disagree.”
Noonen replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 21:44:01
“Can you imagine a football coach telling the fans not to blame him, but blame the other team and the other fans? A leader leads. Obama blames.”
GaryWolf replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 21:42:06
“I agree with everything you said. But at what point during the Health Care debate did President Obama ever fight for anything? He's acting like an absentee landlord. Yeah, we're getting a Health Care Bill, but it's not a very good one. Letting a dysfunctional Senate hammer out the details does not appear to have been the wisest choice. Where's the leadership?”
Axlotl replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 21:39:57
“Listen, that "The Republicans are the devil" routine only works when the Democrats are trying and being beaten; they're not. We have met the enemy, and it is the Democrats that refuse to act any differently than Republicans. Period.”
Querent replied on Dec 21, 2009 at 21:39:50
“Of course, we are angry at all of those lousy excuses for human beings you mention. But the President is still a big disappointment. Why? BECAUSE HE WON'T TRY. HE WON'T FIGHT. He's more interested in being nice to that very same list of louses that you made, and every time he says anything negative about somebody, that somebody is a progressive. Get it?”
More and More, Obama Seems a Faux Liberal
Commented Dec 16, 2009 at 16:43:01 in Politics
“So tell us in your great wisdom how he can get anything passed in Congress without a fillabuster 60 vote minimum in the Senate? Fortunately we don't elect dictators. the President no matter how great his intentions and values and Obama's are impeccable still needs to be a politician and seek Congressional consensus. But keep attacking him this stupidly and you will see in 2012 your results, Palin and Beck.”
More and More, Obama Seems a Faux Liberal
Commented Dec 16, 2009 at 16:28:18 in Politics
“Drivel is so right. No wonder the Dems get their butts kicked by idiots like Palin and Beck. They've got ivory tower, elitist, so called liberal publishers comparing Obama to Tricky Dick. Geez, talk about liberals eating their own.”
More and More, Obama Seems a Faux Liberal
Commented Dec 16, 2009 at 16:24:55 in Politics
“He's not trying regulate lives with the use of the government, he is trying to level the playing field. Unless your income is in the top 5%, everything he has done so far or proposed so far economically is to expand the economic safety net and create economic opportunities.
If you think your chances for pursuing liberty are greater in an economic depression or in a society where you can't afford to go to the doctor when you are ill. Then go wave your tea bag, with the rest of the right wing wackos.”
If you think your chances for pursuing liberty are greater in an economic depression or in a society where you can't afford to go to the doctor when you are ill. Then go wave your tea bag, with the rest of the right wing wackos.”
WritusMaximus replied on Dec 16, 2009 at 16:51:31
“I agree. It's Obama Trickle Down Economics. So what if the trickle dries up before it gets to you!”
More and More, Obama Seems a Faux Liberal
Commented Dec 16, 2009 at 16:13:43 in Politics
“If he is an "authoritorian imperialist" he could have gotten health care reform passed by now. But fortunately we still are a democracy and pragmatic politics get things accomplished in this country not authoritarian tactics...
Invictus: Obama's Liberal Warrior Speech in Oslo
Commented Dec 10, 2009 at 19:29:22 in Politics
“It was a brilliant speech. and it addressed directly all the anti-Obama Huff Post commentators and their denial of the "evil" in radical Islam that justifys any thing they do, even killing "pregnant women" and blowing up innocents as justified by their distorted interpretation of the divine. He said flat out you cannot negotiate with these extremists no matter how much we desire peace.”
thebeerdoctor replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 21:07:41
“And what about the innocents slaughtered by United States predator drones? Or ae those women and children to not be counted. There is plenty of innocent blood shed by President Obama's hands.”
andrea.t replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 21:04:51
“ditto.”
The Surrealism of the Afghan Surge
Commented Dec 10, 2009 at 09:54:21 in World
“I'm not excited Rule of Law. I'm just rying to convey some obvious facts about the severity of the threat of Radical Islam and their hatred of the U.S.
For some reason you and many of the Huff Post commentors talking about peace with the Taliban and Al Qaeda and other Jihadist groups in AFPAK are in some delusional cloud of denial of reality.
We all want peace, even the Afghan school girls who had acid thrown in their faces for trying to attend school and the teachers who were beheaded by the Taliban for trying to teach school.”
For some reason you and many of the Huff Post commentors talking about peace with the Taliban and Al Qaeda and other Jihadist groups in AFPAK are in some delusional cloud of denial of reality.
We all want peace, even the Afghan school girls who had acid thrown in their faces for trying to attend school and the teachers who were beheaded by the Taliban for trying to teach school.”
The Surrealism of the Afghan Surge
Commented Dec 09, 2009 at 20:46:10 in World
“You all live in a fantasy world that there are peaceful answers to the very real threat of radical Islam and it's desire to hurt us and the rest of the modern world. Especially you Rule Of Law. If the Taliban, and Al QAeda and all the rest of the Jihadists in AFPAK laid down there arms there would be peace immediately in AFPAK! If the U.S. and it's allies laid down their arms there would be uncontrollable death and destruction on a scale much worse then we have seen so far. Including nuclear blackmail with Pakistan's arsenal.
HamletsMill, you are really out of it if you don't think Patreaus and Mckrystal and Holbroke don't understand what is going on in Afghanistan, or the President or Hillary.
Let me make it simple for all you commentors who just hink we can pull out and we will have peace in AFPAK. You would all be writing your comments in German or Japanese if your pathetic inability to grasp the facts of when this country's security is threatened prevailed in World War II.
Try telling a Jhihadist suicide bomber "to give peace a chance".”
HamletsMill, you are really out of it if you don't think Patreaus and Mckrystal and Holbroke don't understand what is going on in Afghanistan, or the President or Hillary.
Let me make it simple for all you commentors who just hink we can pull out and we will have peace in AFPAK. You would all be writing your comments in German or Japanese if your pathetic inability to grasp the facts of when this country's security is threatened prevailed in World War II.
Try telling a Jhihadist suicide bomber "to give peace a chance".”
Sean Kobuk replied on Dec 13, 2009 at 20:50:31
“You said below that you are just trying to "state the obvious facts". The only facts you have stated are the names of the National Security group. Everything else is cloudy emotionalism. Please provide some facts to back up the following.
1. That the Taliban supports Al Qaeda
2. That the Taliban intends to go after Pakistan's nukes.
3. That either of these groups has even a remote chance of defeating any of the surrounding countries.”
1. That the Taliban supports Al Qaeda
2. That the Taliban intends to go after Pakistan's nukes.
3. That either of these groups has even a remote chance of defeating any of the surrounding countries.”
Rule Of Law replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 12:04:46
“I posted a response that listed every bogey man that has been foisted upon the American public since 1918. It was scrubbed for some reason. Most of them revolved around the mythical cold war and communism--which could never have survived without financing by, and trade with the US. Our country has been dominated by the Corporatis
The answer is a simple one. US out of the Middle East, and every other part of the world. We've been the empire building bully for over a century now, and we've earned the hatred of many countries. I believe Jefferson was right, trade with all, treaties with none. Build This Country. To hell with the rest. And, if even after we become the good citizen of the world we should have been, anyone attacks us--then they pay the ultimate price. Not this 100 years war baloney.”
The answer is a simple one. US out of the Middle East, and every other part of the world. We've been the empire building bully for over a century now, and we've earned the hatred of many countries. I believe Jefferson was right, trade with all, treaties with none. Build This Country. To hell with the rest. And, if even after we become the good citizen of the world we should have been, anyone attacks us--then they pay the ultimate price. Not this 100 years war baloney.”
abluevoice replied on Dec 10, 2009 at 09:54:21
“I'm not excited Rule of Law. I'm just rying to convey some obvious facts about the severity of the threat of Radical Islam and their hatred of the U.S.
For some reason you and many of the Huff Post commentors talking about peace with the Taliban and Al Qaeda and other Jihadist groups in AFPAK are in some delusional cloud of denial of reality.
We all want peace, even the Afghan school girls who had acid thrown in their faces for trying to attend school and the teachers who were beheaded by the Taliban for trying to teach school.”
For some reason you and many of the Huff Post commentors talking about peace with the Taliban and Al Qaeda and other Jihadist groups in AFPAK are in some delusional cloud of denial of reality.
We all want peace, even the Afghan school girls who had acid thrown in their faces for trying to attend school and the teachers who were beheaded by the Taliban for trying to teach school.”
Rule Of Law replied on Dec 09, 2009 at 23:12:59
“I can see you're excited. It has distorted your perspective. Take a breath and step away from the propaganda machine. It's warped your ability to think.”
The Republican Struggle for "Ascendency"
Commented Dec 08, 2009 at 20:35:29 in Politics
“You hit the nail on the head with number 3 the Republican's and Reagan's killing of the fairness doctrine. And the rise of Limbaugh and literally 100s of clones with a daily audience of 40 million uninformed listeners who's whole political education is from Republican talking points. Limbaugh sold the argument that consensus democracy was liberal "political correctness", and that it was OK not to listen to the other side and OK to demonize the opposition, and that by doing so you were a real patriot.
This blatent political partisanship is sponsored by supposedly politically neutral national advertisers who don't have a clue they are giving 24/7 free advertising to Republican hate talk.
Limbaugh has evolved into Hannity, Savage, OReilly, and Fox News and the literally crack pot Glenn Beck, which has evolved into the Birthers (supported by a Republican VP candidate that got 60 million votes) The tea baggers shouting down opposition at political rallys and carrying guns and openly hating and trying to deligitimize a popularly elected President with racist signs and comparisons to witch doctors and Hitler.
And all of this has evolved into a Republican Party trying it's best to make this President fail despite whatever harm the country suffers.
And the worst part is the mainstream media presents these crack pots and their literally crazy ideas, such as the President is not a citizen, as the other side of a proven fact that he is a citizen!”
This blatent political partisanship is sponsored by supposedly politically neutral national advertisers who don't have a clue they are giving 24/7 free advertising to Republican hate talk.
Limbaugh has evolved into Hannity, Savage, OReilly, and Fox News and the literally crack pot Glenn Beck, which has evolved into the Birthers (supported by a Republican VP candidate that got 60 million votes) The tea baggers shouting down opposition at political rallys and carrying guns and openly hating and trying to deligitimize a popularly elected President with racist signs and comparisons to witch doctors and Hitler.
And all of this has evolved into a Republican Party trying it's best to make this President fail despite whatever harm the country suffers.
And the worst part is the mainstream media presents these crack pots and their literally crazy ideas, such as the President is not a citizen, as the other side of a proven fact that he is a citizen!”
Emlyn replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 20:57:34
“I do not listen to Fox News although I have heard Limbaugh, Beck and O'Reilly speak on other programs. I would like to know who those advertisers are. Can't a list of them be published on Huff Post so that we can let these advertisers know that we won't buy their goods as long as they advertise on Fox News?
I'm all for bringing back the fariness doctrine. Also let's find a ship somewhere, load the tea baggers and drop them into the sea. And the birthers - well, they are so ignorant that its not funny.”
I'm all for bringing back the fariness doctrine. Also let's find a ship somewhere, load the tea baggers and drop them into the sea. And the birthers - well, they are so ignorant that its not funny.”
The Surrealism of the Afghan Surge
Commented Dec 08, 2009 at 10:13:06 in World
“The National Security group that sat around the table and helped Obama come to his decision to send more troops to AFPAK to defend against the radical Islamists blowing up their own people to gain power have not only been there many times but are trying to do something about the mess 8 years of Bush incompetence and neglect created.
Besides the President:
Gen James L Jones
Hillary
Susan Rice (UN Ambassador)
Dennis Blair (director of National Intelligence)
Leon Panetta (director of the CIA)
Richard Holbrooke, special envoy to AFPAK
Gen David Patraeus
Thomas Donilon, (deputy national security advisor)
Rahm Emanual
Adm Mike Mullen
Joe Biden
Robert Gates
David Axelrod
Lt Gen Karl W Eikenberry, ambassador to Afghanistan opposed to sending more troops
Gen Stanley A McChrystal
This was not your Bush round table of "Chicken Hawk" neocon yes men! This was the best and brightest this country has to offer covering all aspects of the debate on all the bad choices Obama inheirited regarding what to do about AFPAK. Please get your facts straight when you comment!”
Besides the President:
Gen James L Jones
Hillary
Susan Rice (UN Ambassador)
Dennis Blair (director of National Intelligence)
Leon Panetta (director of the CIA)
Richard Holbrooke, special envoy to AFPAK
Gen David Patraeus
Thomas Donilon, (deputy national security advisor)
Rahm Emanual
Adm Mike Mullen
Joe Biden
Robert Gates
David Axelrod
Lt Gen Karl W Eikenberry, ambassador to Afghanistan opposed to sending more troops
Gen Stanley A McChrystal
This was not your Bush round table of "Chicken Hawk" neocon yes men! This was the best and brightest this country has to offer covering all aspects of the debate on all the bad choices Obama inheirited regarding what to do about AFPAK. Please get your facts straight when you comment!”
Rule Of Law replied on Dec 09, 2009 at 15:39:37
“I am sorry is these are our best and our brightest. Sorry for the Afghans and sorry for our country.
There is no voice of peace among them.”
There is no voice of peace among them.”
mjc replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 14:56:20
“The brightest and best of our nation have, and probably will again, fall on the wrong side of troubling issues. Vietnam was considered an absolute necessity in order to keep the USSR from "taking over the Far East" and all those PhDs and generals and high level government flunkies cost this nation dearly. Checking the Muslims in the world, supporting Israel no matter what, won't get you much except a nation deeper and deeper in debt, domestic projects unavailable because of lack of funds, but most important, the killing of a good hunk of an entire generation of young people...a
HamletsMill replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 14:53:51
“I will give you Lt Gen Karl W Eikenberry and Adm Mike Mullen in your argument. They are competent men who could still save this. But people "having been there many times" does not mean a thing at all! I am talking about people who speak the language over 40 years as Americans and have moved among the Afghan people through four decades and know people over a long period of time while everyone else was at a disco in the 1980's sleeping their lives away. These people are all Johnny-Come-Latelys to Afghanistan. Just like the Wall Street types that did not see the sub-prime catastrophe coming, none of these people ever saw 9/11 or Afghanistan coming in their apparatchik hack careerist lives. Mark my words. I hope I am wrong. I hope with all my heart I have to eat them. But I tell you these people do not truly understand the situation. They are seeing things from 50,000 feet blinded by their ham fisted corporatist life experiences. They are now taking the Armed Forces of the United States into a quagmire from which many will not return alive and it will fail unless we learn nuances. people produced by our educational system do not do nuance.”
A Tale of Two Obamas
Commented Dec 08, 2009 at 09:45:15 in Politics
“Here is a little dose of reality for you adamNsteve (clever name), without Obama, you would have
McCain and Palin, who make Gingrich look progressive. If you and Kuttner and the rest of the "so called progressives", don't defend and support this pragmatic and smart liberal Democrat in the White House, in 3 more years you are going to get Palin, Huckabee, or some other brainless radical right wacko running the country and taking their marching orders from Rupert Murdoch and Glen Beck and Limbaugh and Hannity.
You better start "assessing where your loyalties lie" Now, and try to regain your memory of the damage Obama inheirited from the last 8 years of Bush/Cheney and Rove.”
McCain and Palin, who make Gingrich look progressive. If you and Kuttner and the rest of the "so called progressives", don't defend and support this pragmatic and smart liberal Democrat in the White House, in 3 more years you are going to get Palin, Huckabee, or some other brainless radical right wacko running the country and taking their marching orders from Rupert Murdoch and Glen Beck and Limbaugh and Hannity.
You better start "assessing where your loyalties lie" Now, and try to regain your memory of the damage Obama inheirited from the last 8 years of Bush/Cheney and Rove.”
adamNsteve replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 11:55:48
“The name is meant as a joke because it is so cliche, but perhaps you've picked up on that....
I'm not looking for a McCain Administration.
I desire the Obama from the Obama campaign to show up at the WH one of these days.
I feel entirely fine having this desire, and comfortable with all the criticism that I and other fellow progressives have directed at Obama, his policies and his people.
As for you labeling of those with whom you disagree as "so called progressives", you get to do that just like I get to label you as either a blind apologist - or a Republican masquerading as a Democrat.”
I'm not looking for a McCain Administration.
I desire the Obama from the Obama campaign to show up at the WH one of these days.
I feel entirely fine having this desire, and comfortable with all the criticism that I and other fellow progressives have directed at Obama, his policies and his people.
As for you labeling of those with whom you disagree as "so called progressives", you get to do that just like I get to label you as either a blind apologist - or a Republican masquerading as a Democrat.”
Lilli917 replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 10:38:26
“A frightening thought! If we can look at this objectively and in a less partisan way, it seems that we have a country that is being run by corporate America. It is so complex that there is almost a domino effect for any change. We keep looking for a leader and a person who can accomplish the impossible. We need term limits and a more active and informed electorate. Maybe we should also all have a bumper sticker that says
"Reelect no one". Until and unless we accomplish that, real change will remain elusive.
While I'm pontificating, I might add that I'd approve of a six year presidency.”
"Reelect no one". Until and unless we accomplish that, real change will remain elusive.
While I'm pontificating, I might add that I'd approve of a six year presidency.”
The Surrealism of the Afghan Surge
Commented Dec 07, 2009 at 23:58:17 in World
“The people at the table giving Obama input on the current situation in Afpak have a whole lot more information and intelligence then you do Professor Sachs. They don't overlook as you so blatently do along with all the rest of the ivory tower idealists so critical of the president the reality of the Taliban taking over the country. You want to really waste taxpayer money try building infastructure in Afghanistan with the Taliban running the country. You would have the US tax payers paying for the acid the Taliban throws in school girl's faces.
They know a whole lot more about the serious security threat to not only the U.S. but to all the West and Europe with The Taliban and their cohorts Al Qaeda, and every American hating and modernity hating Jihadist moving back and forth between Afghan and Pakistan with a mutual goal of getting their hands on Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.
There is no comparison with the real security threat AFPak is and the fake threat of the "domino theory" used to build up in Vietnam.
Obama inheirited a no win situation in AfPak caused by Bush/Chene
They know a whole lot more about the serious security threat to not only the U.S. but to all the West and Europe with The Taliban and their cohorts Al Qaeda, and every American hating and modernity hating Jihadist moving back and forth between Afghan and Pakistan with a mutual goal of getting their hands on Pakistan's nuclear arsenal.
There is no comparison with the real security threat AFPak is and the fake threat of the "domino theory" used to build up in Vietnam.
Obama inheirited a no win situation in AfPak caused by Bush/Chene
HamletsMill replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 08:00:50
“"The people at the table giving Obama input on the current situation in Afpak have a whole lot more information and intelligence then you do Professor Sachs." WRONG! The people at that table ARE the very "ivory tower idealists" that you belittle! These are Beltway paper PhD. types and military careerist hacks who have NEVER set foot in Afghanistan for more than a two week junket. They have no idea at all about what is really going on. The history of my family and U.S. - Afghan relations go back 40 years. Two members of my family just spent eight years there with a small cadre of other very brave Americans on the ground running the medical relief effort for the United States across 16 provinces in the most successful socio-economic project of the war. The knowledge and insight of the old Afghan hands was never sought by the Bush Administration. The existence of this community of hands on experience is only just now reaching Obama and his staff after a year in office. But the input is too late. Decisions have now been made that will be our fate as a nation. But you are mistaken if you believe for a moment the people sitting in these councils have any idea whatsoever about what they are doing. They don't. They are just paper PhD.'s pontificating from zero hands on experience in the current situation in Afghan society.”
Selena Jacobs replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 03:12:01
“Is this the same kind of intelligence and information that started the war in Iraq?”
A Tale of Two Obamas
Commented Dec 07, 2009 at 23:29:00 in Politics
“On one hand you say "what a contrast to Bush" and then you quote his brilliant grasp of our economic and defecit problems and then you stick a knife in his back Kuttner with your unrealistic progressive idealism.
You can't turn on the car radio without hearing Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage and hundreds of others attacking Obama from the radical right 24/7, and now I can't read the Huff Post without short memory , ivory tower, attacks from so-called progressives attacking him and reinforcing the Republican mantra of hate and failure. Not just from you but from the comments as well. No wonder Democrats get their butts kicked and bullied so easily by the wackos running the GOP.
You need a serious dose of reality Kuttner:
We do have an establishment, and you can't radically change it as an "insurgent " President no matter how progressive your motives are.
If Rosevelt had the hate and failure right wing media control of the political debate and a just say no, wish for failure opposition party attacking him 24/7 as Obama does he would never have gotten through the "New Deal".
Obama had to be a pragmatist when dealing with the near collapse of the global economy and a headfirst Bush caused dive into a near depression. There was not one progressive solution offered by anybody with any validity.
He has no majority in the Senate. He must accomadate.
Your "all of the above" reinforces Republican talking points.”
You can't turn on the car radio without hearing Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage and hundreds of others attacking Obama from the radical right 24/7, and now I can't read the Huff Post without short memory , ivory tower, attacks from so-called progressives attacking him and reinforcing the Republican mantra of hate and failure. Not just from you but from the comments as well. No wonder Democrats get their butts kicked and bullied so easily by the wackos running the GOP.
You need a serious dose of reality Kuttner:
We do have an establishment, and you can't radically change it as an "insurgent " President no matter how progressive your motives are.
If Rosevelt had the hate and failure right wing media control of the political debate and a just say no, wish for failure opposition party attacking him 24/7 as Obama does he would never have gotten through the "New Deal".
Obama had to be a pragmatist when dealing with the near collapse of the global economy and a headfirst Bush caused dive into a near depression. There was not one progressive solution offered by anybody with any validity.
He has no majority in the Senate. He must accomadate.
Your "all of the above" reinforces Republican talking points.”
FreeNemo replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 17:12:14
“No majority in the Senate??
You must be looking at a different Senate than I am....”
You must be looking at a different Senate than I am....”
adamNsteve replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 00:33:19
“re: "so called progressives"
Right. You get to define us all.
Nice try
We progressives don't reinforce Republican talking points. Obama's actions do that, all by themselves.
We just point out what a fraud he is.
You don't like it. Tough.”
Right. You get to define us all.
Nice try
We progressives don't reinforce Republican talking points. Obama's actions do that, all by themselves.
We just point out what a fraud he is.
You don't like it. Tough.”
rick91 replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 00:00:39
“100% correct. Fanned”
Barack Obama's War: 10 Key Things To Know
Commented Dec 06, 2009 at 12:03:39 in World
“There is a tinge of validity to some of your replys Shearwater. But the number one priority of the government is national defense and to act in the self-interest of the people.
You and I vote for the people responsible for directing our government in a hostile world defined by survival of the fittest. History proves this. There has always been wars when one side is trying to take advantage of the other.
I believe, in Obama, we have a President (leader), that has a more self sustaining understanding of America's role in the world not exploitive as you absurdly generalize in your distorted view of America's past and present motives.
For every book saying that suicide bombers are not motivated by extremist religious dogma, there are hundreds of testimonies by those involved saying they are. The most recent being the excellent HBO documentary on the Mumbai slaughter of innocents by brainwashed radical Islamists.
The one terrorist survivor says over and over again he and the other killers of innocent people did it for their reward in heaven.
He and all the others who are motivated by this disgusting distortion of faith by blowing up themselves and innocent people should be sent to their just rewards by any means possible. Those who defend this and keep quite about it are equally as despicable.”
You and I vote for the people responsible for directing our government in a hostile world defined by survival of the fittest. History proves this. There has always been wars when one side is trying to take advantage of the other.
I believe, in Obama, we have a President (leader), that has a more self sustaining understanding of America's role in the world not exploitive as you absurdly generalize in your distorted view of America's past and present motives.
For every book saying that suicide bombers are not motivated by extremist religious dogma, there are hundreds of testimonies by those involved saying they are. The most recent being the excellent HBO documentary on the Mumbai slaughter of innocents by brainwashed radical Islamists.
The one terrorist survivor says over and over again he and the other killers of innocent people did it for their reward in heaven.
He and all the others who are motivated by this disgusting distortion of faith by blowing up themselves and innocent people should be sent to their just rewards by any means possible. Those who defend this and keep quite about it are equally as despicable.”
Barack Obama's War: 10 Key Things To Know
Commented Dec 05, 2009 at 14:48:36 in World
“You really live in a kumbaya fantasy world Shearwater. In your world there are no bad guys, except us, and 9/11 was our fault and justified from a Radical Islam point of view. Oh I'm sure you think Hamas and Hezbollah, the Taliban, and Al Qaeda are just freedom fighters. And if we laid down are arms they would be happy to peacefully co-exist with modernity and the West.
Here is my quote for you " If all the Islamic radicals and terrorists laid down their arms there would be peace in the world. If America laid down it's arms there would be no America"!
I don't think there are many Americans that would want to share a foxhole with you.
What is your solution to dealing with Radical Islam, surrender?”
Here is my quote for you " If all the Islamic radicals and terrorists laid down their arms there would be peace in the world. If America laid down it's arms there would be no America"!
I don't think there are many Americans that would want to share a foxhole with you.
What is your solution to dealing with Radical Islam, surrender?”
abluevoice replied on Dec 06, 2009 at 12:03:39
“There is a tinge of validity to some of your replys Shearwater. But the number one priority of the government is national defense and to act in the self-interest of the people.
You and I vote for the people responsible for directing our government in a hostile world defined by survival of the fittest. History proves this. There has always been wars when one side is trying to take advantage of the other.
I believe, in Obama, we have a President (leader), that has a more self sustaining understanding of America's role in the world not exploitive as you absurdly generalize in your distorted view of America's past and present motives.
For every book saying that suicide bombers are not motivated by extremist religious dogma, there are hundreds of testimonies by those involved saying they are. The most recent being the excellent HBO documentary on the Mumbai slaughter of innocents by brainwashed radical Islamists.
The one terrorist survivor says over and over again he and the other killers of innocent people did it for their reward in heaven.
He and all the others who are motivated by this disgusting distortion of faith by blowing up themselves and innocent people should be sent to their just rewards by any means possible. Those who defend this and keep quite about it are equally as despicable.”
You and I vote for the people responsible for directing our government in a hostile world defined by survival of the fittest. History proves this. There has always been wars when one side is trying to take advantage of the other.
I believe, in Obama, we have a President (leader), that has a more self sustaining understanding of America's role in the world not exploitive as you absurdly generalize in your distorted view of America's past and present motives.
For every book saying that suicide bombers are not motivated by extremist religious dogma, there are hundreds of testimonies by those involved saying they are. The most recent being the excellent HBO documentary on the Mumbai slaughter of innocents by brainwashed radical Islamists.
The one terrorist survivor says over and over again he and the other killers of innocent people did it for their reward in heaven.
He and all the others who are motivated by this disgusting distortion of faith by blowing up themselves and innocent people should be sent to their just rewards by any means possible. Those who defend this and keep quite about it are equally as despicable.”
shearwaterpost replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 21:24:15
“the information i've set forth is not a justication for the strategy of doing nothing - quite the opposite. I'm not in fantasy land - there are serious problems going on in the world - we just need to know the facts and seek as clear a picture of reality as possible without allowing ego to interfere with reason. Once we know the facts then we will have access to solutions that work. This is not about idealism - its about reason - its about what works and what doesn't work -- And unfortunately, to the dislike of some, a history lesson is required.”
shearwaterpost replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 20:05:47
“another book that would help with your limited view on suicide terrorism is "dying to win" - this author is a consultant to the united states intelligence community as a leading expert on the motivations of suicide bombers and their pysche - he concludes - little connection between suicide terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism, or any one of the world’s religions.
our government only cares about taking the resources from smaller countries by corrupting governments - installing dictators - assassinating democratic leaders - debasing a countries currency making everything in it extremely inexpensive to buy up and creating slave labor for western corporations under the guise of developing the third world we at home can think were doing great things for humanity - as a last resort we will go in militarily - we now have military presence in about 130 of 180 countries in the world - that has consequences - but the ego of the american believe we somehow we have rights over others - the others are becoming increasingly resentful and our CIA and other intelligence agencies are continually calculating blowback..
our government only cares about taking the resources from smaller countries by corrupting governments - installing dictators - assassinating democratic leaders - debasing a countries currency making everything in it extremely inexpensive to buy up and creating slave labor for western corporations under the guise of developing the third world we at home can think were doing great things for humanity - as a last resort we will go in militarily - we now have military presence in about 130 of 180 countries in the world - that has consequences - but the ego of the american believe we somehow we have rights over others - the others are becoming increasingly resentful and our CIA and other intelligence agencies are continually calculating blowback..
shearwaterpost replied on Dec 05, 2009 at 19:53:30
“I'm not a coward - I'm just sick of being lied to by our government on both sides to support and elite class - yes there are terrorist that hate america and no we should let them kill all of us in the name of peace - i'm an idiot but rather I study history and I read government documents, laws, policies and do not allow the media to think for me nor do i live on a one-day-news-cycle that thinks that there are just bad guys and goods guys unfortunately the world is slightly more complicated than that -- despite the more simplistic school children view of reality projected by the media - - I would have enlisted in World War II - even though corruption surrounded both sides of that war - We just can't trust the solutions coming from those who are profiting, causing, looking for, and fueling both sides of conflicts - conflicts allow governments to do thing they would not normally be able to do - do you know what "blowback" is? its a term invented by the CIA for the violent, unintended consequences of a covert operation that are suffered by the civil population of the aggressor government. There's a book called blowback you should read...”
Barack Obama's War: 10 Key Things To Know
Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 19:29:04 in World
“You can read this quote to Daniel Pearl, who got his throat slashed on video by jihadists. Or read it to to the innocents slaughtered in Mumbai recently by radical Islamists. Or read it to the school girls in Afghanistan who had acid thrown in their faces for attending school or read it to the Afghan teachers beheaded by the Taliban in Afghanistan. You would be writing your comment in German or Japanese if we didn't follow Rosevelt and Truman in WW II.
You wouldn't even be able to post this quote if you lived by Sharia law in a world controlled by the Taliban or Al Qaeda Mr Shearwater. We all hate war but giving in without a fight to those who want to harm you or your family is sheer lunacy or cowardice. Which fits your ridiculous idealism?”
You wouldn't even be able to post this quote if you lived by Sharia law in a world controlled by the Taliban or Al Qaeda Mr Shearwater. We all hate war but giving in without a fight to those who want to harm you or your family is sheer lunacy or cowardice. Which fits your ridiculous idealism?”
shearwaterpost replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 22:22:19
“The amount of pain and suffering cause by the United States in the name of humanitarianism is disgusting. These people are pissed that the US keeps killing their friends and family, so me and you can profit from it. Thats the reality - read Einsteins quote again - this isn't about staying the course or "giving up" its about truth and honoring the constitution and bill of rights. This pre-packaged way to think produced by the media is a joke - you all have similar programmed responses none of which are your own thoughts but rather that of the mainstream. What we think about the world matters - we have to wake up and stop allowing the government to terrorize the whole damn world - our government and CIA are the greatest terrorist the worlds ever seen.”
shearwaterpost replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 22:22:12
“This isn't about terrorism or 100 al queda in caves - yes terrorism exist - but to think that they just hate our freedom is delusional or its because of islam - read the book called "Dying to Win" authored by the countries foremost expert on the motivations for suicide bombers worldwide and throughout history. The CIA has been playing chess with the whole region since the agency was created. Read the book "Blow Back" which explains - how the CIA and United States overthrew the first democratically elected president of Iran in 1953. Or how we funded Saddam and supplied him with money and weapons to invade Iran - or how we trained, funded, and armed the Taliban (aka freedom fighters), who were really a bunch of criminals, to fight the Russians. Also our installment and assignations of dictators in the south east Asia and all throughout south and Latin America.”
shearwaterpost replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 22:22:01
“how easy it is to manipulate a dumbed down public into perpetual war when armed with the weapon of political correctness and propaganda. If one detests war they're for "throats being slashed" or for Afghanistan girls having "acid thrown in their faces for attending school" - Our government does not care about the people in Afghanistan or any other third world country we destroy. Our government just needs to get us to think they care, so the government can win ignorant support and corporate and banking interest can rape the third world of their resources and continue to expand our empire in the name of freedom.”
loudspeaker replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 20:26:25
“Que? Read the quote again.”
Barack Obama's War: 10 Key Things To Know
Commented Dec 04, 2009 at 18:30:22 in World
“Afpak is not "Obama's War" nor will it ever be no matter how many troops he has to put there! It is so infuriating to see progressives and liberals buying in to Republican talking points and reinforcing them to let Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice off the hook for the most incompetent and dangerous defense of our security during their 8 years in office.
Obama didn't make the failed and wrong decisions to neglect and virtually abandon both Afghanistan and Pakistan (other then to throw a billion a year to Pakistan's military and corrupt intelligence forces), while trillions of dollars and thousands of lives were sacrificed to a fool's occupation of Iraq,
Bush did!
The Taliban is stronger and more corrupt then ever, and there is little difference between them and Al Qaeda and other middle East Jihadists when it comes to their desire to kill Americans and their hatred for all things Western and modern. They are tyrants that blow up their fellow Muslims to achieve power and enslave and intimidate those who don't give in to them.
Thanks to Bush's unprecedented incompetency when our presence in Afpak could have made a difference. Obama did not have the alternative to pull out and let the Taliban control Afghanistan, and make moves into nuclear Pakistan, siding with and sheltering Al Qaeda along the way and recruiting more Jihadists and suicide bombers to their anti-American cause and threats. Afpak is the defined front to stop the spread of radical Islam.”
Obama didn't make the failed and wrong decisions to neglect and virtually abandon both Afghanistan and Pakistan (other then to throw a billion a year to Pakistan's military and corrupt intelligence forces), while trillions of dollars and thousands of lives were sacrificed to a fool's occupation of Iraq,
Bush did!
The Taliban is stronger and more corrupt then ever, and there is little difference between them and Al Qaeda and other middle East Jihadists when it comes to their desire to kill Americans and their hatred for all things Western and modern. They are tyrants that blow up their fellow Muslims to achieve power and enslave and intimidate those who don't give in to them.
Thanks to Bush's unprecedented incompetency when our presence in Afpak could have made a difference. Obama did not have the alternative to pull out and let the Taliban control Afghanistan, and make moves into nuclear Pakistan, siding with and sheltering Al Qaeda along the way and recruiting more Jihadists and suicide bombers to their anti-American cause and threats. Afpak is the defined front to stop the spread of radical Islam.”
shearwaterpost replied on Dec 04, 2009 at 18:57:01
“Bush and Obama are both liars - your post reminds me of an Einstein quote - the quote applies to the blind followers of both parties:
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." - Albert Einstein”
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." - Albert Einstein”
Obama's Unavoidable Cure for the Afghanistan Cancer
Commented Dec 03, 2009 at 20:47:40 in World
“This is a brilliant post Bob and you are right on the money. I'm so disgusted with so called progressives and their denial of the malignant cancer that radical Islam is and the immediate threat it poses to the western world's security. I'm a lifelong Dem and a liberal but when Jihadists be they Taliban or Al Qaeda or any other name despise our values and existence and as Tom Friedman wrote Sunday have a anti American narrative that justifys even killing other Muslims to strike back at us and the West and Israel, we must not let them take control of Afpak. No matter what the cost.
This is not Iraq or Vietnam which were both mistakes. And thank you for pointing out this is not Obama's war but chore, thanks to the unprecedented incompetence and stupidity and corruption of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their Republican enablers.”
This is not Iraq or Vietnam which were both mistakes. And thank you for pointing out this is not Obama's war but chore, thanks to the unprecedented incompetence and stupidity and corruption of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their Republican enablers.”
Strengthening The Levees Against Unemployment And Rising Debt
Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 17:10:11 in Business
“Obama,came into office with an agenda of change and a sincere desire to create jobs, reform health care and make it affordable, improve education and make us less dependent on oil. He got blindsided by the overwhelming failure of "trickle down" un-regulated Republican economics and the unprecedented failure of the Bush/Cheney/Neocon nation building.
What really pisses me off is, besides the disgusting and un-American, anti-Democratic, and hateful failure wishing Republican, 24/7 attacks on all things Obama, Huff Post commentators are now pointing uninformed or, short memory criticisms at the President! "The President made bad decisions or followed very bad advice....
This is total BS! Paulson and Bush pushed through TARP, with no regulations or oversights. Obama wanted a bigger stimulus to create more jobs, but couldn't get it through Congress.
Just look at the opposition to health care reform, even from the stupid Dems. And the neglect by Bush of AFPAK and it's very real and serious threat to our security, gives Obama few good choices. And we are still pumping billions into Bush/raq.
I agree taxes should be raised yesterday on the top 2%, and they should pay more for Soc Security and medicare. But damn it why can't liberals be more like Republicans when it comes to finger pointing and point them in unison at the opposition not Obama?”
What really pisses me off is, besides the disgusting and un-American, anti-Democratic, and hateful failure wishing Republican, 24/7 attacks on all things Obama, Huff Post commentators are now pointing uninformed or, short memory criticisms at the President! "The President made bad decisions or followed very bad advice....
This is total BS! Paulson and Bush pushed through TARP, with no regulations or oversights. Obama wanted a bigger stimulus to create more jobs, but couldn't get it through Congress.
Just look at the opposition to health care reform, even from the stupid Dems. And the neglect by Bush of AFPAK and it's very real and serious threat to our security, gives Obama few good choices. And we are still pumping billions into Bush/raq.
I agree taxes should be raised yesterday on the top 2%, and they should pay more for Soc Security and medicare. But damn it why can't liberals be more like Republicans when it comes to finger pointing and point them in unison at the opposition not Obama?”
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