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Memorizing the Whole New Testament

Commented Jun 19, 2012 at 07:50:48 in Religion

“I find the silly people who need to come on here and make disparaging comments about both Christians and scripture amusing.”
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Is Anders Breivik a European Fundamentalist?

Commented Jul 27, 2011 at 19:33:36 in Religion

“Apologies. You are correct in pointing out that Breivik does not use the term "European," and claim it equals Christian. I was wrong.”
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Is Anders Breivik a European Fundamentalist?

Commented Jul 27, 2011 at 09:33:32 in Religion

“This comment doesn't really make sense. The whole point of the original piece was that Breivik is the one claiming that "Christian" equals "European," and then pointing out that the author does not agree with this nor do most ordinary Christians.”

KrautMan on Jul 27, 2011 at 19:50:47

“No worries, happens to all of us. Sorry for my opener, that was unnecessary.”

KrautMan on Jul 27, 2011 at 11:18:04

“Pay attention, nowhere does the article say that Breivik equals "Christian" with "European". It's the author of the article who decided that Breivik meant "European" when he wrote "Christian":

"The key to understanding his manifesto, his mania and the confusion currently dominating news headlines lies in the reality that by "Christian" he almost always means "European.""”
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Is Anders Breivik a European Fundamentalist?

Commented Jul 27, 2011 at 09:27:37 in Religion

“No it isn't. The "No True Scotsman" Fallacy involves an ad hoc change in a definition in order to claim that a particular member of a certain class is not really a member of that class. This is not an example of that fallacy for two reasons:

1.) Ben's argument is that Anders Breivik never claimed to be a Christian in any ordinary sense, and, in fact, specifically rejects Christian beliefs in the ordinary sense and offers his own definition of Christianity. Therefore, Ben is not trying to exempt someone who otherwise claims to be Christian in the ordinary sense from that class of individuals. He is simply pointing out that Breivik already stated that he himself was not a member of that class.

2.) There is already a pre-existing definition of what constitutes Christian belief and behavior based on the teachings of Christ and the scriptures. Just because an individual claims to be a Christian, does not automatically make him one. His beliefs and behavior must conform to that pre-existing defintion in order to be considered Christian. Ben has argued that Breivik's belief and behavior does not meet this definition. This is a legitimate way to argue. Otherwise, anyone could claim to be anything at all and we could never make any claim to the contrary lest we be guilty of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.

Thus, the claim that this article is an example of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy is itself fallacious.”
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Is Anders Breivik a European Fundamentalist?

Commented Jul 26, 2011 at 19:00:15 in Religion

“Great article Ben. It is a shame that today's media is so careless and dishonest in their presentation of things, no doubt mostly for the sake of stirring up controversy and generating a few headlines. It's also a shame that some folks are so eager to find any tool they can use to bludgeon the Christian faith that they will crassly grab onto the actions of a lone, clearly disturbed individual in a tragedy like this one and use it to smear the beliefs of millions of people, even though there is no necessary connection between this man's actions and the contents of the Christian faith.”
Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Commented May 24, 2011 at 06:42:27 in Religion

“The answer to your question, I think, is that most of the atheist types who post on sites like this are relentlessly insecure, small minded people who feel compelled to cover over their fear that they might be wrong by shouting loudly and belittling anyone who sees things differently than them.”
Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Commented May 24, 2011 at 06:35:02 in Religion

“Or maybe most other Christians are too busy actually living out their faith, and pursuing other serious interests to waste time on the ridiculous pronouncements of Pat Robertson.”
Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Commented May 24, 2011 at 06:21:27 in Religion

“Gee, no undue bias in that statement. It's still just as silly as it was before. Adding more words to it doesn't make it somehow more intelligent.”
Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Commented May 24, 2011 at 06:11:58 in Religion

“Wrong. No one perceives reality directly. It is always mediated to us through the senses and what we perceive is interpreted and understood through the medium of language. Your naive belief to the contrary only shows how simple-minded you are despite your belief in your own intellectual superiority. Maybe you should try reading some actual serious thinkers and leave the Richard Dawkins aside.”
Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Commented May 23, 2011 at 22:10:11 in Religion

“Well then, why don't you enlighten us all with the permanent solutions that will forever solve the social problems we face.”

HeadAches on May 23, 2011 at 23:32:12

“Depend son the problem but this is not rocket science, it has been fixed in almost every other first world country but of course, you are scared out of your wits of anything that smack of government.

It's so sad to see Americans being scared of government instead of the other way around - the government should be scared of the people but Americans went from slavery to serfdom, so...”
Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Commented May 23, 2011 at 22:07:46 in Religion

“Ah yes. And we all know that if you couldn't find any articles refuting him, then that means every Christian must absolutely agree with him. Gotta love the logic here.”

Numberwang on May 24, 2011 at 07:50:22

“from below:
"Or maybe most other Christians are too busy actually living out their faith, and pursuing other serious interests to waste time on the ridiculous pronouncem­ents of Pat Robertson."

Exactly, Christians just can't be bothered with the global image of their faith. They have allowed the crazies to represent them.”

Numberwang on May 23, 2011 at 23:31:43

“I did not say that. I only said (or meant to say) that those who do disagree, apparently dont disagree strong enough to defend their own position. Christians have let the lunatics take over the asylum.”
Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Commented May 23, 2011 at 20:33:12 in Religion

“What a ridiculously silly thing to say.”
Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Commented May 23, 2011 at 20:32:19 in Religion

“And, of course, anything that doesn't make sense to your limited understanding must definitely not be real.”

HeadAches on May 23, 2011 at 23:36:21

“What is real about prayers?

Prayers don't work, never have, never will. The quicker you understand this, the quicker you can shed the burden of middle eastern nonsensical mythologies.

Why do you hate reality so much you have to replace it with middle eastern fantasies?”
Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Missouri Tornado: Churches Coming Together to Pray and Help Victims

Commented May 23, 2011 at 20:27:44 in Religion

“Reality according to who?”

HeadAches on May 23, 2011 at 23:41:33

“Reality doesn't need an "according to" - reality is what it is whether you like it or not.

Making up bed time stories for adults may make you feel better but it still has nothing to do with reality, just like your middle eastern jewish mythology

But of course, in case your god exist in reality - show me some evidence!”