alexa07's Comments (512)

“The MSM as well as the internet will pander to whatever the public wants to hear. We are divided in this country as much as we were during the Viet Nam war. Look for more debate in Democracies around the world including Israel and the USA......b­ut watch your back because extremists will take advantage of your freedoms.”

“Alexa, could you please tell that to CigarGod, MarcusT and the rest of them? GZ is not the only person around here who doesn't engage in "polite discourse"”

“In America we have debates, in Israel there are debates pro and con.
Hamas will not allow debate and chooses weapons and terror over a peace treaty.
What do you not understand about that?”

“What are you blathering on about - Gilo is a Jewish suburb and has been for decades”

“As someone else says on this thread, negotiations have done wonders. Going into the seventh decade. But, yes, appealing to the EU would be a novel idea. And which one of the European countries should give up territory to make room for that *Palestinian State*?? Many European countries already have contingents of 20-25% of Arabs inside their borders, just as Israel does. I have an inkling, though, that that percentage has not yet been reached in some Arab countries. Is it not the case that most Palestinians speak Arabic and are muslim? No Arab speaking countries in the EU that I know of, even though there are too many Arab speaking persons there already to some people's liking. Oh, Palestinians are NOT asking EU countries, or the U.S., to give up territory? They are asking Israel to do so? Well, may be in that case the Palestinians are barking up the wrong tree? Oh, there are no trees in the desert either? Well, whatEVER!! No, Alexa07, I do not know how Palestinians are looking into the camera's eye either and speaking such nonsense! Oh, you were speaking of the U.S.? Well, yes, how do they dare! The U.S. should immediately withdraw any aid to Palestinians. You are so correct, this time.”

“Yah, years of negotiations have done wonders.”

“So did the EU earlier today. They called the idea "untimely and premature".

And, BTW, what would be the international borders of this Palestinian "state"? HAMAS have already rejected the idea, and they control Gaza. So it's the West Bank only. However, Abbas controls only about 20% of it - a few major cities. Also, they are totally dependent on Israel for power and water supply, communal services, health, and security. So let's picture this: tomorrow the Abbas government declares independence. Who will provide the Palestinian population with basic services? No one. Because there's no doubt that Israel will rescind all prior agreements withe Autonomy, plus every terrorist attack will be lawfully considered as an act of war between states.

Words are a beautiful thing, but reality is something different.”

“Hear hear and here's to Jimmy Carter the best man America ever threw under the bus! I wish you'd been able to let him do his job rather.”

“I like everything you write.”

“Ben,
I have enjoyed our exchange of ideas. I know I won't change your mind (there is an alternative view of the Clinton negotiations in 2000 that is debated endlessly on this site to not much avail as one either accepts it or not) but I would like to
say that there is a fork in the road for the Israelis. They can either accept the sacrifices that lie ahead, either to accept the Palestinians as equals within the society that they really both share though neither group wants to admit it or to continue inflicting undue suffering on part of the population. The world tends to blame the group in power (whether fair or not) so if it is the latter, the Israelis themselves are in for a long haul & lots of disapproval from the world. Either way it is not going to be a free ride for them or the Palestinians. Both groups have such creative spirit, it is truly a tragedy that they can't figure out a way to live together & prosper. Unfortunately, if human history tells us anything, it is that they are not alone in their difficulties.”

“If you have any respect for any nation that borders Israel except for Eygpt and Jordan, then you are just crazy. You talk about the bombing of Lebanon. Lebanon and Syria, and Libya are nothing but subsidiaries of Iran. They do nothing for their people, and promote nothing but death to Israel and all Western values. If you actually think that these nations are somehow victims of the big bad Israel then you are just out of your mind. We can disagree rationally about the Palestinian conflict, but if you truly see Israels neighbors (other than Eygpt and Jordan) as ANYTHING but evil promoters of terror and hate, then you have shown your true colors and your argument loses all force, because you are no longer rational, just a Israel hater.”

“You are correct of the current Israeli government who is the MOST conservative they have had in probably 30 years. However, how short your memory. 2000 Camp David Summit, Israeli PM Ehud Barak offered PLO Preseident Arafat 95% of the West Bank, and all of the Gaza Strip, which was all they were asking for minus that last 5%. Guess who turned it down? Hmm 95% concession from the Israeli's, 0 concession from the Palestinians. I know to us that seems like forever ago, but over there thats still recent. You spit on my generous offer and I'm not exactly going to be feeling very giving after that. That's the stage Israel is in right now. The youth that have grown up over the past decade saw their parents efforts and concessions GET NOWHERE, and they are angry. Now hopefully this will pass, but I see why they are frustrated. You offer your opponent 95% of what they want, when you have all the leverage, and still get turned down, you feel like saying screw it.”