“"Mr. Prime Minister, we have found our Zion-it is America."
Yes it is, and I respectfully suggest that you should be taking better care of it for the benefit of ALL Americans (and Israelis too).
The American Jewish community should do this by placing some serious demands on Israel rather than just blindly supporting whatever talking points come out of Tel Aviv, something that the community has heretofore been unwilling to do. What kind of demands? How about these: "cease the occupation and aggressively reach out to your neighbors in peace".”
StCuthbert on Aug 6, 2010 at 15:41:25
“American Jews don't support ANY talking points that come out of Tel Aviv, because none do. If talking points were to come from Israel, they would come from Jerusalem.”
“Israel's present system is not working because it is attempting to be a "Jewish, democratic state". This seems to me to be an oxymoron. It can either choose to be a Jewish theocracy or a democratic state, but not simultaneously both. Until this is resolved, Israel's existence will remain threatened.”
Vlady on Aug 5, 2010 at 23:17:37
“"it is attempting to be a "Jewish, democratic state". "
Tell it to French, Danish and Italians”
jollyelle on Aug 5, 2010 at 18:49:18
“you are absolutely right, fanned”
lightningbolt on Aug 5, 2010 at 15:45:08
“Israel is a democracy with Jewish cultural origins. That is why it is called the Jewish state. Jewish law is not Israeli law, rabbis do not have power to make laws, and therefore Israel is not a theocracy.”
“Mr. Bronfman, the fact that you think that the revulsion the world expressed following Israel's attack on the Gaza Flotilla was a result of an Israeli propaganda failure, rather than the results of the attack itself, is just amazing. I understand that you may love Israel unconditionally, but don't you get it? The world is sick of Israel killing innocents. No slick PR campaign is going to change this. Through its continued belligerence and violence, Israel is de-ligitimizing itself.”
cincinnati on Aug 5, 2010 at 16:44:14
“Touchdown !.......can't wait for real football....although it's terrible how the rich GOP owners of the teams are too cheap to build their own stadiums.....that's Socialism for the rich.....sorry for a bit off topic.....but Bronfman is part of that elite that just can't see the reality of the average barely making it family.....we need a world wide tax on all old big money.....they get us into Iraq and other blunders, they should pay big time $$$”
“Rabbi Boteach lectures us on "Jewish values, one of the greatest being an ironclad commitment to opposing injustice and the trampling of innocents". Really, rabbi? Perhaps you are unaware of the ongoing Israeli occupation, subjugation and brutalization of the Palestinian people, and the stealing of their land. I think that your face should be bright crimson with embarrassment after publishing such hypocrisy.
In the matter of the Libyans next door, why don't you try inviting them over for coffee. Maybe you will find that you actually share a common humanity and can live together peacefully.”
“Our support of Israel's brutalization of the Palestinian people is so clearly unjust, I think the international community is simply giving up on our failed leadership and moving on without us. Look for more Gaza flotillas sponsored by fair-minded nations and humanitarian groups. History will judge our actions harshly, but fairly, in this matter.”
Anbreen on Jun 14, 2010 at 21:08:02
“I agree. We will soon be an after thought. As we should be.
This is how the Romans lost their empire, too.”
AdamX on Jun 14, 2010 at 15:18:53
“Yes, too much brutality towards Hamas - why doesn't Israel learn to cherish terrorists as much as you do?”
jajenkins on Jun 14, 2010 at 14:53:39
“Well precisely - though I don't think nations will get involved. Instead, we will see private actors behaving with the courage that we no longer expect from state-actors.
Case in point: a German-Jewish group has been so inundated with requests to join a new flotilla of aid that they have had to charter a second ship (according to Ha'aretz).”
“When Israel invaded Lebanon the second time, it shot itself in the foot. When it invaded Gaza, it shot itself in the head. It is just now beginning to experience the consequences.”
gandolf101 on Oct 16, 2009 at 01:09:54
“Israel said next time Lebanon attacks , its goning to be alot worse then before .
so get your hanky out and start crying for Lebanon.
Israel should fight untill the enemy surenders and keep lebanon once and for all.
Then they can cry that thier occupied like the palestinians ..I mean defeated like the palestinians.”
“The dead and living innocents killed and maimed by the Israelis in Gaza are crying out for justice. Let's get on with it. No more excusing Israeli atrocities or viewing them with a blind eye. Time for the U.S. to be true to its own values and hold those rersponsible, accountable.”
Macready on Oct 9, 2009 at 11:46:09
“well said angler”
GZLives on Oct 8, 2009 at 21:59:26
“"Time for the U.S. to be true to its own values and hold those rersponsible, accountable."
Agreed and that would be Hamas who fire rockets from schoolyards and residential buildings or is it the Gazans themselves who voted for these thugs knowing they promised them war with Israel.?”
“Given time, the truth about the atrocities committed by the IDF in Gaza will come out. For some time now many Israelis of conscious have been calling for a full and transparent investigation of IDF conduct during Operation Cast Lead. It's past time for the U.S. government to get on the side of truth and justice, and stop being a party to war crimes.”
Hedonist on Sep 19, 2009 at 11:21:59
“How about an investigation of U.S. war crimes in Iraq first?”
NeoconGal on Sep 18, 2009 at 22:52:41
“Ever wonder why countries bar reporters from war zones?”
“Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is an embarrassment to our state, as previously was Senator Strom Thurmond, and as currently is Governor Mark Sanford. Our other serving senator, Jim Demint, is a reactionary, so surely his embarrassing moments on the national stage are coming.
We really are a state of "smiling faces and beautiful places" , as the state department of toursism advertises. But there is something about our politics here that is just completely irrational. Apparently it has always been this way. This is the place where the "Great War of Northern Aggression" began.”
somefool on Jul 16, 2009 at 16:33:28
“He's a smarmy @rse, but watch, he'll vote for her.”
“When Israel invaded Lebanon a few years ago it shot itself in the foot. When it invaded Gaza a few months ago it shot itself in the head. At that time, without saying much, the American people quietly took in what was happening, especially the arrogance being displayed by the Israeli government and the atrocities being committed by the IDF against the Palestinian civilian population.
No doubt AIPAC is now in serious damage control mode, but I believe that history will record the Gaza invasion as the pivotal moment wherein the United States' decades long, unquestioning support of Israel, ended.”
Montgriz on Jul 15, 2009 at 19:48:01
“In a more perfect world, that might be true. However, AIPAC learned, years ago, that votes and support can be bought. To validate their strength and reassure their "base", AIPAC managed to get spy charges against two of their agents caught in the act, dropped by our own politicians with a mere slap on the wrist and a token fine...ironically, AIPAC buys our representatives with tax money from Americans whose leaders send it to Israel...a perfect circle of corruption.”
who38 on Jul 15, 2009 at 19:06:26
“I so hope that you are correct. Can you imagine what it must be like to live in Gaza? If we could get this solved, maybe we could move on to Somalia.”
GZLives on Jul 15, 2009 at 19:02:18
“Yeah it shot itself in the foot and head but meanwhile the rockets and missiles stopped ...
Guess you conveniently forgot that little piece of information”
“The neocons don't want an easing of tensions with Iran. That means that we would get a better understanding of the Iranian people. It would even show us their show us their humanity. That would make it more difficult for us to bomb them.”
“Apologists for Israel's ongoing subjugation of the Palestinian people have historically made the argument that Israel is lacking "a strong and credible Palestinian partner" to negogiate with. Mr. Bronfman just happens to be the most recent to voice such.
The primary reason that effective Palestinian leadership does not exist is that whenever it begins to form, Israel acts to weaken and to dismantle it. That's the way the Israelis want it. It allows them to continue to create an apartheid state within a "Grreater Israel".
Mr. Bronfman, your argument is really disingenuous. I would say to the point of being transparently silly. Better try something else.”
Vickster on Jun 8, 2009 at 23:37:27
“Unfortunately, the Palestinian leadership is ineffective because they have always been corrupt. Take Yasser Arafat, for example. He used his position to extort millions from the PLO while he lived in Paris. (His widow still lives high on the hog, so to speak.) Meanwhile, the leaders of Hamas are living in the lap of luxury in Syria.
With friends like that, the Palestinian people don't need enemies.”
iknowdou on Jun 8, 2009 at 17:28:50
“I heard that Israelis are recruiting European and American Jews to come live in Israel. The population of the Palestinians is growing so rapidly that a Jewish majority will be impossible to realize if they don't get so more Jews in there. I don't know if that's true.
But there is more than enough evidence in Israeli policy towards the Palestinians to suggest that the Israelis are trying to create an all Jewish state where there are no 'arabs'. This 'no arab' Israel is not sustainable. It never will be. The sooner these Zionists realize that, and quit trying to kill others for their 'God' given holy land, the sooner we can have peace. They will always be surrounded by Arabs. That's what happens when you go live in a land where Arabs have always existed.
If they want a land free of Arabs, I hear Mars is a colony just waiting to happen.”
ArtsyJane on Jun 8, 2009 at 17:24:26
“You're right. It is so obvious that the Israelis feed off the Palestinian radicals. They badly need them. If all of a sudden, the Palestinians started behaving reasonably and rationally and started peacefully negotiating, it would make look the Israeli expansion and settlements even more illegitimate. Without the Palestinian radicals, they're lost. They can't justify anything in the eyes of the world. That's why they'd do anything to bar the moderates from governing and incite the radicals.
It's pretty similar to the Bush administration. They badly needed Al Qaeda and such, so that they could justify the unjustifiable for the (lethargic) public.”
mikefina on Jun 8, 2009 at 16:54:39
“This is a claim unsupported by history. Makes for a nice narrative, and as an apology-piece for the disfunctional Palestinians, who are really just a proxy-non-state of the Arab leaders of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria et.al.. If ANY Arab or Persian state really wanted a two state solution, it would have been acheived by now.
So long as the repressive regimes of the Arab world continue to deny democratic and civil rights reforms to its own, underacheiving citizens, they will continue to need Palestinian grievances upon which to project their own failures.”