“Oh I absolutely agree with you!! I'm just commenting, rather tiredly, on the futility of the situation. Same tactics during 8 years of Clinton. The cons never stopped protesting, calling for impeachment, blocking, stalling. Hopefully Clinton has gone over all this with Obama so he knows what to expect.
Conservative line right now: 'We may have lost the battle, but we haven't lost the war.'
“Believe me I'd love to live in that world. I just don't believe we've come far enough to accept a new status quo. We still have a lot more growing to do.”
Flavor on Sep 16, 2009 at 04:26:52
“Ansonart, keep the faith, you are that person I am speaking of who know change had to come, we can't lump all white people together and say they are racist because all are not, President obame did not get in office only from African Americans he could not have it's because my white, hispanic, native american,asian,ect... brother and sister voted for him. Flavor, knows there are a lot of good white people who are not racist and will help blacks or anyone if they see injustice. There are good people in every race and there are bad people in every race but overall most people want whats right it's always going to be a few bad apples. We just have to save the good ones.”
“The Republican line on this (from politicians, media and electorate) will be to collectively throw their hands in the air and accuse President Carter and all other right-thinking people of 'playing the racist card.' Well, guess what, there's a racist card to be played in America - sad but true. Delve just under the surface of many of these monster-shouters at Town Meetings, and you'll find deeply entrenched feelings about racial issues that have been nurtured over generations. And it will be generations more to come, I'm afraid, until these feelings of fear and paranoia are excised from the American/World consciousness.
So, yes Democrats, we have to play the racist card because like it or not it exists and there are, as President Carter intimates in his comments, millions of Americans who will never reconcile themselves to the idea that a black man can hold the highest office in the land. They will protest it for the next three years.”
Flavor on Sep 16, 2009 at 03:59:08
“That's just too bad because he'll be in that seat. Also, what would make one think if what you say is true that we want to see just one race of people get to sit in the Commander & Chief seat have you looked around lately america is multiracial and the hispanics are leading for as race so you can't possibly think that future presidents will be white. This is a new day (change), I understand hurt many people but they have to get over it because our next president could be african american female, white female, asian female, native american female ect.... we have to take off the rose colored glasses and look around. People, think different and are willing to vote for whatever race of people if the person appears to be what they are looking for in a candidate, this is not the goo old boys day, this is a new day with different thinking people who see race not as a factor when they vote. I sure am glad of that.”
nkhogan on Sep 16, 2009 at 03:54:41
“You're right. But it's difficult. Sometimes overplaying the racist card, hurts as well. There is definitely deep seated institutional racism and covert racism still alive and well in the United States. Of that, there is no doubt.
In this case, Carter was correct in calling this racist. But, if the racist card gets overplayed it tends to polarize and lose its meaning as well.
I think as a nation, we do need a longer public discussion about racism to expose some of the covert racism that goes on. Obama getting elected only put the cat amongst the pigeons as it were, it didn't solve the racial tensions.”
“I imagine a scenario where, on the President's first day in the White House, his top advisors sat across from him in the oval office, smiled and said, "Well Mr President, congratulations on winning the election. Now, here's a reality check on the difference between what you thought was possible before you were elected and what is actually possible. We've written it out on this piece of paper. Oh, and here's a complimentary bottle of Grecian 2000 - you're going to need it."
George W had all this information presented to him by his daddy. It must have come as an almighty shock to Barack Obama when he realized who was actually in charge.
As for yesterday's speech, I can only imagine the 'suits' - the real holders of power in America listening, smiling wryly and then getting on with 'business as usual.'
There is really only one word for it all: Sad.”
bellelibran on Sep 15, 2009 at 08:58:29
“I too have played out scenarios in my head about how this all went down. I have akined to Stepford Wives....... they get taken the club and reemerge with a glazed, dumbfounded expression and we never see the nobleness again.
castlerider on Sep 15, 2009 at 08:17:15
“Your take on this is probably pretty accurate, and makes one notice that Bush Jr. jumps in with his little sailor hat and the idea of pushing the ship to full throttle, with the ones in charge grinning from ear to ear going, "OMG what an opportunity we have here!" 2 long term voyages end, the ship comes to a halt, Bush gets out, and sees that he's been sailing the ship over land, over families, over our economy, ~ trounced... He looks up worried at the ship, and the ones in charge are still grinning, saying-"Oh don't worry! we'll drag her back to sea, no problem!"
I've been saying this in my HP comments for years: the difference between the Right and Left in this country is that the Right make a habit of shouting and screaming about everything, whereas the Left deliberately take the contrary position, smile sweetly and sympathize. Who won the damn election anyway??? The moaning, defeated minority are behaving like they still own us. They don't. We do. Let them shout all they want. And President Obama, with respect, let's ignore the wailing monsters and start passing some bills and legislation.”
“Kind of makes me wonder if that line judge was taking a back-hander... I've seen foot fault's being called at crucial moments in matches before - and it always seems to be the pivotal moment in a game. I suppose you could put it down to over-effort on Serena's part, but I wonder - I really do. Foot-fault's are horrible calls even when they aren't match-ending. Frankly I'm not surprised Serena lost her cool.”
“My wife and I left America before the 2004 election because we couldn't stand the idea of another four years of 'W' and what he was doing to the country. I remember a day back in January when things felt so hopeful for America. The Republicans are gradually and sucessfully eroding all hope of a better America, a kinder America, a more thoughtful and generous America. Who won the damn election anyway????”
“Actually, yes: There is a race card at work here. There is a broad section of American society who are incredulous that a black man could have gained the highest office in the land - and it's not just neo-con rednecks in trailer parks - it's in the House and Senate too. Publicly they'll deny it. Privately, there are plenty of intollerant bigots in positions of political responsibility.”
Altruth on Sep 10, 2009 at 07:29:04
“Right On, Spot On and Amen!”
oneanddone on Sep 10, 2009 at 07:06:12
“Those that state such things are obviously just as racist.”
“'This evening I let my emotions get the best of me...'
Oh come on Senator Wilson! It was a premeditated affront to the authority of the President of the United States. Can you imagine the rage and comment if a democratic senator had made such an outburst during a speech to congress by a Republican encumbant? The perpetrator would have been hounded into his grave by Fox and Limbaugh.
Republicans shout - it's their way. That's what they do. Constructive argument isn't in their DNA. Supremacy of the loudest, dominance of the bully, inalienable rights of the richest - that's all it's about for our Republican brethren. And because OUR way is that of understanding, sympathy and reasonableness, we are never heard.
As another commentator to this post said, Politics has become very sad.”
TParrish on Sep 10, 2009 at 06:59:17
“Where are the Dolcinites when you need them? (grin)”
Chad53916 on Sep 10, 2009 at 06:52:00
“Very well put. It's a dominance thing for them that seems to stem from insecurity.”
“I live in Great Britain, but lived in the US for 15 years - which is why I read the HP, just to keep abreast of things. One reason my wife and I moved back here to England is because we were never able to comfortably afford health care in America. We got basic healthcare through our employers, but it seemed every year we were getting less and paying more. I can't tell you how quickly that burdon lifted when we knew that there was a National Health Service behind us - that it was there if we ever needed it. There are plenty of people in the UK who have Private Medical Insurance and that is their right and their choice - same as it would be in the US if Health Reform was passed. But NO ONE is turned away from a hospital over here - NO ONE.
America has been so mired in a private healthcare culture for so long that most of its population cannot see that real, effective, compassionate change is possible, and that healthcare can become a right, not a privlege. The amount of money private healthcare providers make is an obscenity that needs to be fixed regardless of the outcome of the bill.”
ediva75 on Aug 28, 2009 at 08:29:23
“Hey ansonort , so in da UK U don't have 2 wait for services if U have serious illnesses?”
mratcheson on Aug 28, 2009 at 08:03:36
bigspringsteenfan on Aug 28, 2009 at 08:00:31
“100% on the mark.....from a Canadian who will never be turned away from a Canadian hospital or clinic..... NEVER”
“Oh come on people! This is horrible! And I was looking at some of the other 'fare' available at rival fast-food joints: A 'King Stacker Quad'??? When did food start competing with the number of blades in razors? What next? 'The Wendy's Quintessential Artery Clogger - with complimentary de-fib paddles and Heimlich diagram'??? 'The McDonald's BBQ Elephant between two bread trucks'??? This isn't food - it's obscenity. Feed 'em up. Keep 'em docile. Keep 'em compliant. America - loose weight and start demonstrating!!!!”
PalaceOfWisdom on Aug 26, 2009 at 13:37:59
“Why does everything have to lead to massive complaining or demands for an apology? Learn to cook and make your own meals. It's healthier, far cheaper for the same food (I can make fillet mignon for 20% of what a restaurant charges), and no moral outrage required. That BBQ elephant does sound tempting though.”
RonRutherford on Aug 26, 2009 at 11:47:17
“You're reading a little too much into it. The TV brainwashes people and keeps them docile far more than food...”
“Also, NeverGuessing, please make an attempt to Stop using Capital Letters in the middle of Sentences. For example 'What did the Founding Father Thomas Paine suggest about Democracies?' would be more correctly and more elegantly written as 'What did the founding father Thomas Paine suggest about democracies?'
(Blimey, you can't read the sense because of the rotten style)”