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Deficit or Depression?
Commented Dec 29, 2008 at 10:22:43 in Politics
“We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financials, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom keep getting us into recessions or depressions decades after decades. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the billion dollar steaks and filet mignon we are giving to the banks and other institutions. It would be better to give every American who filed a tax return or holds a legitimate social security card $5,000(call it our bonus) each year over a 4 year period, that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically which would do a lot more for people’s confidence in the system all of which would end up in the wide system instead of what we have now the rich get richer the poor get poorer and the middle class disappears.”
HMDMSR replied on Dec 29, 2008 at 11:36:51
“This might help Americans pay off their debts, but what happens afterwards? Usually in scenarios like the ones being discussed on this blog, Americans end up saving and not consuming. How will institutions which hold these savings manage them? Will they make loans? Loans to do what? Will wages be falling during this period? In the end won't you still have profits going toward speculation and not investment in socially worthwhile goods and services? It seems like many Americans want the economy to produce an outcome. Market economies don't produce outcomes responsible people want. They produce outcomes that make profits.”
In Defense of Rick Warren
Commented Dec 18, 2008 at 10:50:52 in Living
“How about an invocation on the corruption of politics in Washington ?”
The Republicans Want A Depression
Commented Dec 12, 2008 at 11:53:40 in Business
“Excuse me but how do you save when the average worker makes $15.00 an hour ask your parents how much they made for their labor and if they were just keeping their heads above water and living pay check to pay check I know working people who have'nt had a pay raise in 10 years,but over the years have recieved a stream of You have been pre-appoved for a credit card.Stop the B.S.”
Overd0g replied on Dec 12, 2008 at 12:19:19
“Become above average.”
No Currency Left to Buy the Big Lies
Commented Nov 29, 2008 at 19:38:58 in Politics
“The more I see of this fiasco in the economy the more I believe the so called brains on Capital Hill have missed the bull’s eyes. (It reminds me of the Star Trek movie when Khan is trying to kill Kirk and Kirk shouts you keep missing the mark Khan.)
IT'S THE CONSUMER STUPID we need real money in our wallets not B.S loans or B.S credit cards
$5,000 per year for all taxpayers and legal social security card holder for the next 4 years would be a good start.”
IT'S THE CONSUMER STUPID we need real money in our wallets not B.S loans or B.S credit cards
$5,000 per year for all taxpayers and legal social security card holder for the next 4 years would be a good start.”
The Rebirth of Keynes, and the Debate to Come
Commented Nov 29, 2008 at 19:17:54 in Business
“The more I see of this fiasco in the economy the more I believe the so called brains on Capital Hill have missed the bull’s eyes. (It reminds me of the
Star Trek movie when Khan is trying to kill Kirk and Kirk shouts you keep missing the mark Khan.)
IT'S THE CONSUMER STUPID we need real money in our wallets not b.s. loan's or b.s. credit cards.”
Star Trek movie when Khan is trying to kill Kirk and Kirk shouts you keep missing the mark Khan.)
IT'S THE CONSUMER STUPID we need real money in our wallets not b.s. loan's or b.s. credit cards.”
FreedomBeforeDemocracy replied on Nov 29, 2008 at 22:30:10
“That's the problem. There are no "brains on Capital Hill" that can solve this problem. They can't create the perfect market. No one can. It doesn't exist. We can only use the fairest market available, the "free market". Why is it the fairest? Because individuals are allowed to engage in voluntary interactions that they perceive as the best course of action for themselves. They don't always make the "best" choices, even by their own hindsight evaluations. They do, however, attempt to make the best choices and get much closer than most progressives probably believe. In the government controlled market, the actors also try to make the best choices for themselves and often get very close as well. The problem is, in the government controlled market, the actors are mainly politicians. What is best for them is often not best for those that depend on the market.”
The Rebirth of Keynes, and the Debate to Come
Commented Nov 29, 2008 at 18:57:19 in Business
“Replacing good living wages with cheap labor and creating a smoke and mirrors here’s a credit card to keep you happy economy is a scam. Even Henry Ford I'm sure a conservative realized you have to pay a decent salary to workers if you are to have consumers. The obscene compensation that CEO are getting is criminal more like the days of Rome or the aristocracy of France before the revolution and then a few heads came off. I hear some of these talking heads on T. V. saying that these CEO’s work hard for their money well I'll tell you what, the guy who picks up your garbage or the nurse who changes your bed pan or the waiter who serves you a meal works just as hard but in a different way and doesn't have the inside information or contacts to make what I call something for nothing money.
Fairness, transparency, education and accountably this is what the American people want and deserve. Otherwise we are doomed to fail and I would hate to be around if we find ourselves in a violent revolution.”
Fairness, transparency, education and accountably this is what the American people want and deserve. Otherwise we are doomed to fail and I would hate to be around if we find ourselves in a violent revolution.”
evekendall replied on Nov 29, 2008 at 22:34:55
“"Henry Ford: He produced an affordable car, paid high wages and helped create a middle class. Not bad for an autocrat." By LEE IACOCCA
http://www .time.com/ time/time1 00/builder /profile/f ord.html”
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lafrance replied on Nov 29, 2008 at 20:50:25
“When asked why he paid such a good salary to his workers, Ford replied he needed to have people, especially those who worked for him, to be able to afford to buy his cars.
the man was no dummy. Ford paid the highest wage in factories for the time and knew that if he did he would also benefit from his employees buying his cars.
Too bad we have such stupid owners and CEOs around these days. They may have a business degree but, by no means understand business in it's basics.”
the man was no dummy. Ford paid the highest wage in factories for the time and knew that if he did he would also benefit from his employees buying his cars.
Too bad we have such stupid owners and CEOs around these days. They may have a business degree but, by no means understand business in it's basics.”
The Rebirth of Keynes, and the Debate to Come
Commented Nov 29, 2008 at 18:56:13 in Business
“I feel like were in some kind of giant government, big business Ponzi or pyramid scheme. Scandal after scandal, bail out after bail out and the American people keep getting screwed .In the recent scam Congress takes tax payers money and gives it to banks and other criminal players in this most recent scandal, who in turn loan it back to us at high rates (it’s like double taxation). The 8% return that the American people are someday suppose to get will not even cover the interest that will have to be paid on the money we borrow from foreign governments.”
FreedomBeforeDemocracy replied on Nov 29, 2008 at 22:45:11
“Right on. But what is the issue? It's not greedy wall street. It's greedy politicians. What happens when political greed brings down the economy? More political greed is used to try to cover it up. When the housing market crash began, everyone started talking about the great depression. At first, I thought, this isn't going to be another great depression. Then, just like during the great depression, the government started getting more and more involved in the economy. Now, I'm not so sure.”
lafrance replied on Nov 29, 2008 at 20:52:34
“The problem was that they failed to put caveats in to make sure the banks did what they were suppose to. Without certain rules the banks are not going to reform their ways. They certainly have not learned the lessons from the crash and do not see what they did was wrong.
It was the congress who failed to make sure certain rules and demands were entered into the legislation in order for the banks to get one dime.”
It was the congress who failed to make sure certain rules and demands were entered into the legislation in order for the banks to get one dime.”
BrettonWoods replied on Nov 29, 2008 at 20:23:06
“Each one of us has two Senators and one representative. Is bringing down three evil-doers too much to ask? Funding preemptive war and torture constitutes crimes against humanity and murder. If we can't catch them taking bribes, they will fall to a morals charge. To facilitate arrests, the FBI should open its investigative files for public perusal.
So long as sexual deviants don't open themselves to Federal blackmail, I have no quarrel with them.”
So long as sexual deviants don't open themselves to Federal blackmail, I have no quarrel with them.”
The Rebirth of Keynes, and the Debate to Come
Commented Nov 29, 2008 at 18:52:52 in Business
“Damn it to hell every day I watch some talking head going over solutions to the economy or future action that might be taken and as usual they are missing the bull’s eye. You can yap all you want but until you keep repeating the mantra (Give every American tax payer and legal social security card holder $5,000 each year for the next 4 years) every day and show the American people how to get Congress to enact this plan your just blowing hot air and misdirecting the American public. Tell them what the real cost of the bail out is so far 7 Trillion and counting (up front cash, guarantees, loans, subsidies etc.etc. and that it works out to about $25,000 per American) Maybe what we need is a new French style revolution. They say that the last rebate didn’t do any good of course not would $300.00 do you any good, but I would bet $5,000 would help.”
The Rebirth of Keynes, and the Debate to Come
Commented Nov 29, 2008 at 18:48:59 in Business
“Or maybe it's time to set up the guillotines”
TAIsabel replied on Nov 29, 2008 at 20:44:12
“I agree with all of your above posts, particularly the guillotine. I have yet to see or hear of any heads rolling. We can only hope that some will.”
Obama's Call to Service Meets the Economic Meltdown
Commented Nov 22, 2008 at 15:11:10 in Politics
“We need an American Peoples Plan it’s not just the homeowners who are stressed, it’s all American’s.
I say give all American people who have filed a tax return or hold a legal social security card $5,000 dollars a year for the next four years tax free and lower the interest rate to 4% and we will get the economy moving again and restored confidence and hope.
To use an election slogan (IT’S THE CONSUMER, STUPID!) we're giving steaks and filet mignon to Wall Street, the banks and other institutions and peanuts to Main Street.
Main Street didn’t create this mess Congress is spending AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS for all these bailouts they should get their priorities straight.
It doesn't matter how much prices drop American consumers are not going to be able to buy!!!
That's because Americans have no real money in their pockets We don’t need more credit cards or loans we need real money in our wallets and fair paying jobs. Otherwise we are doomed to fail.
Enough is Enough. Decade after decade were always bailing out the wrong institutions and the wrong people! I have seen this same story played over and over again since Nixon.”
I say give all American people who have filed a tax return or hold a legal social security card $5,000 dollars a year for the next four years tax free and lower the interest rate to 4% and we will get the economy moving again and restored confidence and hope.
To use an election slogan (IT’S THE CONSUMER, STUPID!) we're giving steaks and filet mignon to Wall Street, the banks and other institutions and peanuts to Main Street.
Main Street didn’t create this mess Congress is spending AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS for all these bailouts they should get their priorities straight.
It doesn't matter how much prices drop American consumers are not going to be able to buy!!!
That's because Americans have no real money in their pockets We don’t need more credit cards or loans we need real money in our wallets and fair paying jobs. Otherwise we are doomed to fail.
Enough is Enough. Decade after decade were always bailing out the wrong institutions and the wrong people! I have seen this same story played over and over again since Nixon.”
Will We Let Detroit Go and the Recession Deepen Out of Disgust Over Financial Bailout?
Commented Nov 21, 2008 at 13:08:52 in Business
“We need an American Peoples Plan it’s not just the homeowners who are stressed, it’s all American’s. Give all the American people who have filed a tax return or hold a legal social security card $5,000 dollars a year for the next four years tax free and lower the interest rate to 3% and we will get the economy moving again and restored confidence and hope. To use an election slogan (IT’S THE CONSUMER, STUPID!) we're giving steaks and filet mignon to Wall Street, the banks and other institutions and peanuts to Main Street.
Congress is spending AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS for all these bailouts they should get their priorities straight.
Decade after decade were always bailing out the wrong institutions and the wrong people! Main Street didn’t create this mess. It doesn't matter how much prices drop American consumers are not going to be able to buy!!!
That's because Americans have no money in their pockets. We don’t need more credit cards or loans we need real money in our wallets and fair paying jobs. Otherwise we are doomed to fail.
Enough is Enough.
www.willia mcain.com”
Congress is spending AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS for all these bailouts they should get their priorities straight.
Decade after decade were always bailing out the wrong institutions and the wrong people! Main Street didn’t create this mess. It doesn't matter how much prices drop American consumers are not going to be able to buy!!!
That's because Americans have no money in their pockets. We don’t need more credit cards or loans we need real money in our wallets and fair paying jobs. Otherwise we are doomed to fail.
Enough is Enough.
www.willia
Viper replied on Nov 21, 2008 at 13:29:23
“Wrong. Giving us money to buy things will do exactly what it did last time.. 65% of the benefit will flow to China, because we dont make anything. We borrow the money from them and then give more benfit to their economy.
Build things here including cars, electronics and roads, commuter trains, solar and wind generation and that will create jobs for ever and long term economic growth.
Give a man a fish and eats for a day, teach him to catch a fish and he east forever.
Regards”
Build things here including cars, electronics and roads, commuter trains, solar and wind generation and that will create jobs for ever and long term economic growth.
Give a man a fish and eats for a day, teach him to catch a fish and he east forever.
Regards”
Obama's Call to Service Meets the Economic Meltdown
Commented Nov 20, 2008 at 10:13:46 in Politics
“WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA DEMAND
Want to talk about an American people confidence booster and a way to re stimulate the economy I have a simple solution. I hope you will take this idea seriously and kick it around, great ideas do come out of left field maybe you can figure out a way to get this passed thru Congress and pass it on to President Obama.
Let’s call it the AMERICAN PEOPLE’S PLAN
We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financials, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom keep getting us into recessions or depressions decades after decades. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the steak’s we are giving to the banks and other institutions. It would be better to give every American who filed a tax return or holds a legitimate social security card $5,000(call it our bonus) each year over a 4 year period, that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically which would do a lot more for people’s confidence in the system all of which would end up in the wide system instead of what we have now the rich get richer the poor get poorer and the middle class disappears.”
Want to talk about an American people confidence booster and a way to re stimulate the economy I have a simple solution. I hope you will take this idea seriously and kick it around, great ideas do come out of left field maybe you can figure out a way to get this passed thru Congress and pass it on to President Obama.
Let’s call it the AMERICAN PEOPLE’S PLAN
We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financials, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom keep getting us into recessions or depressions decades after decades. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the steak’s we are giving to the banks and other institutions. It would be better to give every American who filed a tax return or holds a legitimate social security card $5,000(call it our bonus) each year over a 4 year period, that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically which would do a lot more for people’s confidence in the system all of which would end up in the wide system instead of what we have now the rich get richer the poor get poorer and the middle class disappears.”
tandrmcdonald replied on Nov 20, 2008 at 12:10:42
“I like that. The five thousand will go a long way to help cover my nine thousand dollar medical insurance deductible. Yah, that's right, nine thousand dollar deductible. You want to know why our economy is in the crapper? A majority of bankruptcy filings this year were caused by medical bills the insurance companies found a way to weasel out of paying. Health insurance industry reform is needed desperately!”
Obama's Call to Service Meets the Economic Meltdown
Commented Nov 19, 2008 at 18:42:00 in Politics
“WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA DEMAND
Hello: Want to talk about an American people confidence booster and a way to re stimulate the economy I have a simple solution. I hope you will take this idea seriously and kick it around, great ideas do come out of left field maybe you can figure out a way to get this passed thru Congress and pass it on to President Obama.
Let’s call it the AMERICAN PEOPLE’S PLAN
We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financials, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom keep getting us into recessions or depressions decades after decades. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the steak’s we are giving to the banks and other institutions. It would be better to give the every American who filed a tax return or holds a legitimate social security card $5,000 each over a 5 year period, that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically which would do a lot more for people’s confidence in the system all of which would end up in the wide system instead of what we have now the rich get richer the poor get poorer and the middle class disappears.”
Hello: Want to talk about an American people confidence booster and a way to re stimulate the economy I have a simple solution. I hope you will take this idea seriously and kick it around, great ideas do come out of left field maybe you can figure out a way to get this passed thru Congress and pass it on to President Obama.
Let’s call it the AMERICAN PEOPLE’S PLAN
We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financials, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom keep getting us into recessions or depressions decades after decades. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the steak’s we are giving to the banks and other institutions. It would be better to give the every American who filed a tax return or holds a legitimate social security card $5,000 each over a 5 year period, that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically which would do a lot more for people’s confidence in the system all of which would end up in the wide system instead of what we have now the rich get richer the poor get poorer and the middle class disappears.”
Carolab replied on Nov 19, 2008 at 19:22:55
“That's nice. Apparently we don't get to "say" what they are doing with "our" money.”
Sunday Roundup
Commented Nov 16, 2008 at 12:55:18 in Living
“WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA DEMAND
Want to talk about an American people confidence booster and a way to re stimulate the economy I have a simple solution. great ideas do come out of left field maybe you can figure out a way to get this passed thru Congress and pass it on to President Obama.
Let"s call it the AMERICAN PEOPLE"S PLAN
We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financials, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom keep getting us into recessions or depressions decades after decades. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the steak"s we are giving to the banks and other institutions. It would be better to give the every American who filed a tax return or holds a legitimate social security card 1 hundred thousand dollars each over a 5 year period, $25,000 per year (total over the 5 years would equal Three Hundred, Billion) that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically. I know the conservatives will hate this idea calling it socialism even though its our money ,(they don"t have a problem bailing out their special interest"s) but there was a saying in a previous election (it"s the economy stupid) I would say now (it's the consumer stupid). Call your Senator and Congress person and demand this plan.”
Want to talk about an American people confidence booster and a way to re stimulate the economy I have a simple solution. great ideas do come out of left field maybe you can figure out a way to get this passed thru Congress and pass it on to President Obama.
Let"s call it the AMERICAN PEOPLE"S PLAN
We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financials, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom keep getting us into recessions or depressions decades after decades. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the steak"s we are giving to the banks and other institutions. It would be better to give the every American who filed a tax return or holds a legitimate social security card 1 hundred thousand dollars each over a 5 year period, $25,000 per year (total over the 5 years would equal Three Hundred, Billion) that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically. I know the conservatives will hate this idea calling it socialism even though its our money ,(they don"t have a problem bailing out their special interest"s) but there was a saying in a previous election (it"s the economy stupid) I would say now (it's the consumer stupid). Call your Senator and Congress person and demand this plan.”
katie did it replied on Nov 16, 2008 at 14:13:59
“Artistcain: You can also go to www.change .gov and send an e-mail to him concerning your wishes. :-))”
While Paulson Waffles, the White House Dawdles, and Congress Dithers, the Economy Continues to Burn.
Commented Nov 14, 2008 at 22:15:48 in Politics
“TO Ms. Maddow
We can see from Reagan on thru Bush that Trickle Down economics only works for what I call the gated community society. Not only do a select few decide what slice of the pie a majority of hard working productive people get, they want to control the pie making machine and give out a smaller slice of the pie.Call your Senator or Congress person and demand that they pay every taxpayer and legal social security card holder $25,000 dollars per year for the next 5 years(It will only amount to $300 Hundred Billion) which is a lot cheaper than the current bail out plan and would restore Americans lost hope of ever getting ahead can you imagine what it would do to restore the economy(We would have to control infation to avoid rip offs,but i must say YES WE CAN and push hard for our rights we have been ripped off for to many decades.
Peace
artistcain”
We can see from Reagan on thru Bush that Trickle Down economics only works for what I call the gated community society. Not only do a select few decide what slice of the pie a majority of hard working productive people get, they want to control the pie making machine and give out a smaller slice of the pie.Call your Senator or Congress person and demand that they pay every taxpayer and legal social security card holder $25,000 dollars per year for the next 5 years(It will only amount to $300 Hundred Billion) which is a lot cheaper than the current bail out plan and would restore Americans lost hope of ever getting ahead can you imagine what it would do to restore the economy(We would have to control infation to avoid rip offs,but i must say YES WE CAN and push hard for our rights we have been ripped off for to many decades.
Peace
artistcain”
While Paulson Waffles, the White House Dawdles, and Congress Dithers, the Economy Continues to Burn.
Commented Nov 14, 2008 at 21:44:11 in Politics
“Please pass on to MS. Maddow
Replacing good living wages with cheap labor and creating a smoke and mirrors here’s a credit card to keep you happy economy is a scam. Even Henry Ford I’m sure a conservative realized you have to pay a decent salary to workers if you are to have consumers. The obscene compensation that CEO are getting is criminal more like the days of Rome or the aristocracy of France before the revolution and then a few heads came off. I hear some of these talking heads on T.V. saying that these ceo’s work hard for their money well I’ll tell you what, the guy who picks up your garbage or the nurse who changes your bed pan or the waiter who serves you a meal works just as hard but in a different way and doesn’t have the inside information or contacts to make what I call something for nothing money.
Fairness, transparency, education and accountably this is what the American people want and deserve. Otherwise we are doomed to fail and I would hate to be around if we find ourselves in a violent revolution.
Peace
artistcain”
Replacing good living wages with cheap labor and creating a smoke and mirrors here’s a credit card to keep you happy economy is a scam. Even Henry Ford I’m sure a conservative realized you have to pay a decent salary to workers if you are to have consumers. The obscene compensation that CEO are getting is criminal more like the days of Rome or the aristocracy of France before the revolution and then a few heads came off. I hear some of these talking heads on T.V. saying that these ceo’s work hard for their money well I’ll tell you what, the guy who picks up your garbage or the nurse who changes your bed pan or the waiter who serves you a meal works just as hard but in a different way and doesn’t have the inside information or contacts to make what I call something for nothing money.
Fairness, transparency, education and accountably this is what the American people want and deserve. Otherwise we are doomed to fail and I would hate to be around if we find ourselves in a violent revolution.
Peace
artistcain”
While Paulson Waffles, the White House Dawdles, and Congress Dithers, the Economy Continues to Burn.
Commented Nov 14, 2008 at 21:37:36 in Politics
“MS.Huffing tonPlease pass this on to Ms. Maddow.I will be a call in guest Monday evening
Thank you
Your Comment to Donny - will be as follows:
We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financial's, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom get us into recessions or depressions. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the steak we are giving to the banks and other institutions .Better that we give the American people 1 hundred thousand dollars each over a 5 year period, (total over the 5 years would equal two hundred, Billion) that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically.
there was a saying in a previous election (it’s the economy stupid) I would say now it's the consumer stupid.
Melanie Freeman Jordan
Producer
BIG Idea with Donny Deutsch
1 CNBC Plaza - 900 Sylvan Ave”
Thank you
Your Comment to Donny - will be as follows:
We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financial's, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom get us into recessions or depressions. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the steak we are giving to the banks and other institutions .Better that we give the American people 1 hundred thousand dollars each over a 5 year period, (total over the 5 years would equal two hundred, Billion) that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically.
there was a saying in a previous election (it’s the economy stupid) I would say now it's the consumer stupid.
Melanie Freeman Jordan
Producer
BIG Idea with Donny Deutsch
1 CNBC Plaza - 900 Sylvan Ave”
While Paulson Waffles, the White House Dawdles, and Congress Dithers, the Economy Continues to Burn.
Commented Nov 13, 2008 at 20:47:20 in Politics
“We have every right to be angry about the bail outs; it always seems we are bailing out the wrong people (financials, car companies, insurance companies, etc.etc.) all of whom get us into recessions or depressions. Giving the taxpayer $300.00 in a rebate was peanuts and did nothing to help the consumers. It was peanuts compared to the steak we are giving to the banks and other institutions .Better that we give the American people that way housing will recover and spending will improve dramatically. there was a saying in a previous election (it’s the economy stupid) I would say now it's the consumer stupid. . Call your Senator and Congress person and demand this plan.
Trickle Down economics only works for what I call the gated community society. Not only do a select few decide what slice of the pie a majority of hard working productive people get, they want to control the pie making machine and give out a smaller slice of the pie.
If my math is correct we could give $25,000 dollars a year for 5 years to every taxpayer and legitimate social security card holder in this county for a total of $300 hundred Billion dollars which would do a lot more for people’s confidence in the system. We could stream it to a wider system instead of what we have now the rich get richer the poor get poorer and the middle class disappears.”
Trickle Down economics only works for what I call the gated community society. Not only do a select few decide what slice of the pie a majority of hard working productive people get, they want to control the pie making machine and give out a smaller slice of the pie.
If my math is correct we could give $25,000 dollars a year for 5 years to every taxpayer and legitimate social security card holder in this county for a total of $300 hundred Billion dollars which would do a lot more for people’s confidence in the system. We could stream it to a wider system instead of what we have now the rich get richer the poor get poorer and the middle class disappears.”
ThomH replied on Nov 13, 2008 at 21:18:43
“Um, well, no. $300 billion is nearly $1,000 per capita, or $200 per year for five years.
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Obama: No Surprise That Hard-Pressed Pennsylvanians Turn Bitter
Commented Apr 12, 2008 at 22:45:16 in Home
“I am 64 years old so i think i have seen enough of the political process over the years to make this statement (The more things change the more things stay the same only the face's change) this has been the pattern of history and until we can genitically enginner out of the human race Hate,Selfi shness,Gre ed and Fear don't expect much to change
I think Obama is on the right track but don't expect the powers to be including the mass media(right or left ) to give up peacefully.
As to the wine drinker vs. the beer drinker i drink both but i get a better buzz off wine and i think the last 8 years of Bush shows what happens when you have a sloppy beer drinker in the White House”
I think Obama is on the right track but don't expect the powers to be including the mass media(right or left ) to give up peacefully.
As to the wine drinker vs. the beer drinker i drink both but i get a better buzz off wine and i think the last 8 years of Bush shows what happens when you have a sloppy beer drinker in the White House”
GrainOSand replied on Apr 12, 2008 at 23:57:39
“The situation of my life has allowed me to publicly log my thoughts a lot lately where previously I had no desire or opportunity. As I surf the waves of human product that is the Web it is both an enlightening experience and a discouraging encounter.
But is this not true for life outside the box --the box, this virtual world in which we sway, and play, and pay, and are logged as we say our piece. Is it not true that in the real world we can be enlightened and discouraged and it all depends upon what we experience and what we encounter?
I am simply writing to say that I am glad that I encountered your written thought for the experience has served to enlighten me and discouraged the possibility of despair as I come away from a day of viewing America through its written thoughts.”
But is this not true for life outside the box --the box, this virtual world in which we sway, and play, and pay, and are logged as we say our piece. Is it not true that in the real world we can be enlightened and discouraged and it all depends upon what we experience and what we encounter?
I am simply writing to say that I am glad that I encountered your written thought for the experience has served to enlighten me and discouraged the possibility of despair as I come away from a day of viewing America through its written thoughts.”

