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Clinton Says Obama Wants to Stop Votes

Clinton Says Obama Wants to Stop Votes

Commented Apr 1, 2008 at 14:06:15 in Politics

“You are so uninformed it's amazing.”
Clinton Says Obama Wants to Stop Votes

Clinton Says Obama Wants to Stop Votes

Commented Apr 1, 2008 at 11:35:39 in Politics

“Even before this thing narrowed down to 2, I was taking a long hard look at the GOP candidates in case Hillary became the Democratic nominee. I knew back then she had a massive credibility problem, and I simple can't vote for someone who lies as much as Clinton.

It's not the lying so much that turns me off - some stuff can be chalked up to memory issues - but the Clintons are most obviously sell-outs. There is little to evidence that principles - rather than political expediency - guides their decision making. Hillary was always known for rewarding loyalty over merit - a serious flaw in by book. All this means I can't trust Hillary to actually implement the platform she runs on, or that the implementation would serve the people over corporations or special interests.

Yes, people like to point out some issues with Obama's credibility. However, there still exists a mountain of evidence that Obama lives by principles. Which makes it more probable that it could be memory issues or some other honest mistake because the stuff that people have found that actually show a break between words and actions are such minute little things. I have yet to see someone make a credible claim that he lied about Rev Wright, because every claim grossly misquotes Obama. I still feel there is a very strong case that he honestly believes we need to change the way we've done things.”
Clinton Surrogate Ed Rendell Praises Fox News For

Clinton Surrogate Ed Rendell Praises Fox News For "Most Objective," "Balanced" Coverage

Commented Mar 31, 2008 at 16:57:35 in Media

“So you consider 2 weeks of looping Rev Wright sound-bites with the Rev Wright Watch, etc. etc. etc. objective coverage of a presidential campaign? Get real.

Objective news coverage is not defined by ratio of time devoted to each candidate, ratio of positive/negative stories, just simply repeating campaign messages, or repeating some conspiracy theory over and over again that that MSM won't pick up. Objective news coverage is defined by reporting the facts, and making sure they are relevant, and keeping the focus on the facts. Any opinions should be backed up with supporting facts and arguments while at the same time listing facts that do not fit your opinion. All the MSM needs a serious look at how to do objective reporting - and Fox news is most obviously the worst of all.”
Obama Bowls for Pennsylvania Voters

Obama Bowls for Pennsylvania Voters

Commented Mar 31, 2008 at 16:40:18 in Politics

“When you actually do some research.”
Clinton Campaign Manager Was Director For Failed Subprime Lender

Clinton Campaign Manager Was Director For Failed Subprime Lender

Commented Mar 31, 2008 at 16:27:07 in Politics

“Stop trying to google bomb this crap. This is all junk, every last bit of it. I'm flagging this as abusive because it's obvious you're abusing the comment system on this website to get the pagerank up on this.”
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Could the Republicans Pick the Democratic Nominee? -- The Untold Story of How the GOP Rigged Florida and Michigan

Commented Mar 31, 2008 at 13:39:07 in Politics

“If the GOP can't figure out how to run an election without causing controversy and pass election laws deem unconstitutional in MI, why should they lead the country?

Nice try with what is clearly GOP meddling on the backs of the Dems though.”
Clinton Campaign To Reporters: Don't Call Us, We'll Call You

Clinton Campaign To Reporters: Don't Call Us, We'll Call You

Commented Mar 30, 2008 at 18:41:58 in Media

“Clinton needs to drop MI altogether. The entire Primary was declared unconstitutional - including the GOP primary. MI clearly has no one to blame but themselves. Hillary I guess has no problems calling herself the winner of an unconstitutional primary. I love how MI loves to state how their votes should count, yet they tried to squash the voices of third parties by not giving them the same access to voting records.

So now we have two states that can't figure out how to cast a vote: MI and FL. Michigan can't figure out how to run a constitutional election, and FL can't count. Personally I find their predicaments fitting. These states have had well over 100 years to get it right.”
Hillary Clinton Deluged With Calls For Her Withdrawal

Hillary Clinton Deluged With Calls For Her Withdrawal

Commented Mar 30, 2008 at 18:30:29 in Home

“Hey Hillary, what happened to the last presidential candidate that majored in miracles and not math? Maybe we should just start calling you Huckabee from here on out.”
Krugman On Mortgage Plans: Obama

Krugman On Mortgage Plans: Obama "Cautious," Clinton "Bold And Progressive"

Commented Mar 29, 2008 at 00:36:58 in Politics

“Krugman doesn't want government regulation when Wall Street has done nothing but scream that it needs it through their actions. If they so obviously can't figure out their own financial products, who can?

The only reason he likes Clinton's proposals is because they lack the Government regulations stressing ethics, transparency, and sound risk taking. Apparently, allowing the market to form bubbles so large that when they pop they risk spiraling us into depression is considered "progressive."”
Clinton Camp: Obama Falsely Claims He Doesn't Take Oil Money

Clinton Camp: Obama Falsely Claims He Doesn't Take Oil Money

Commented Mar 28, 2008 at 15:06:30 in Politics

“Actually it would be your "hillaryheads" who do this. She and her supporters love to call out Obama on every point that Hillary is 10000x worse. That's like Jeffry Dahlmer calling out Zsa Zsa for slapping that police officer.

Example 1 - HRC: "Obama lies about money" Reality, for every 1 "lie" Obama might tell - HRC tells 20. Even lies about her lies, lies about Obama's lies, or lies about her lies about her lies.

Example 2 - HRC: "Obama takes PAC money!" Reality, the percentage of money Obama has raised from bundlers is at most 10-15% of his total money. The percentage of Lobbyist money floating around in Clinton's war-chest would be closer to 60%. When you take into account the over half billion dollars that Bill's Presidential Library and Foundation have raked in, her total war chest available to her can be as high as 95% Special interest money. Plus add in the fact that there's a TON of foreign money donations as well - which includes estimates that the Saudi's contributed as much as 50 million dollars to Bill's funds. But we can only speculate because the Clinton's won't release this information.”
Senator Leahy To Clinton: Drop Out

Senator Leahy To Clinton: Drop Out

Commented Mar 28, 2008 at 14:15:02 in Politics

“If Senator Clinton is looking for Obama to trip up (her only real way of getting the nomination without tearing the party up) she should suspend her campaign, and see if McCain does it for her. Then she can come back and say, ok - Obama couldn't quite do it, so I have enough pledged delegates for the Supers to give me my shot at McCain.

We shouldn't be calling for Hillary to quit, we should be calling for her to suspend her campaign and let Obama take on McCain.”

lucky54 on Mar 28, 2008 at 14:50:38

“How do you think she can have a shot on McCrazy if for last 2 months she is saying he is better then she ?????????????”

clbrune on Mar 28, 2008 at 14:31:20

“If she did that, the superdelegates would decide things early. If she gives the appearance of giving up, she loses support.

If Obama loses now, he could never have won a general election.”
Senator Leahy To Clinton: Drop Out

Senator Leahy To Clinton: Drop Out

Commented Mar 28, 2008 at 14:10:54 in Politics

“I'm assuming the GOP has disenfranchised you too? I'm willing to bet the race was over before it got to you - and mathematically, the Democratic one is over too.”
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Buried Lede Department: Why No Presidential Candidate Says Anything of Substance About the Disaster in New Orleans

Commented Mar 28, 2008 at 14:07:01 in Politics

“Actually Harry, Obama speaks quite a bit about New Orleans. He spoke a lot about it when he was in Louisiana campaigning, and he constantly ties it into his themes of bring ethics, competence, preparedness, transparency, etc.
HARRY RESPONDS: Actually, I read the text of his speech at Tulane, his major pre-Louisiana primary appearance, and it was short, very short, on specifics.”

tbone99 on Mar 29, 2008 at 10:45:20

“B.O.talking about the abandonment of N.O.in Tulane or La. is just pandering,.Including it on his platform in national talks would mean Obama is serious. Even if he was short on specifics at this point in time, he could start working with someone from the area with ideas and make them prominent., He could communicate urgency and prioritization. But he hasn't , Why? Because he wants to pose as the "post racial" candidate!.

How could what happened in N.O be left out of his so- called national conversation on race?!

Both. Dem candidate need to address the mistakes Bush has made and this is a outrageous one. Voters need to be reminded over and over of that ....the dem candidates seem like they're running to the Repugs , not to Democrats.....
HARRY NOTES: This is the second comment in this thread to repeat a canard, so let me go duck-shooting: the flooding of New Orleans was not a racial event, despite what you saw on TV (it was logistically easier for the nets to get to downtown, where black people predominated, than to St. Bernard Parish, where the people on their roofs for four days were white. It would be a supremely post-racial stance to point this out.”

Steve on Mar 28, 2008 at 19:32:32

“HARRY RESPONDS: "Actually, I read the text of his speech at Tulane ... and it was short, very short, on specifics."

So?

I hate to break it to you but Mr Obama is a politician running for office and politicians running for office are always "short, very short, on specifics".

I can't pull the exact quote up right now (it's in my notes somewhere at work) but I believe that when Franklin Delano Roosevelt was criticized for being short on specifics for economic recovery in his 1932 Presidential campaign, he responded that a campaign is not the time to teach a course in economics.

I was just reading a science-oriented newsletter a few minutes ago that was critical of the candidates for not talking about science and science funding. I'm sure farmers feel the same way -- not enough specifics on farm policy. Fans of wind energy decry the paucity of specifics on wind farm subsidies.

Everyone's got their "thing" that they wish the candidates would talk about but let's face it, candidates *aren't* going to get into specifics.

A specific is something is something which the opposition can attack as too much, too little, a "flip-flop", etc., so they tend to speak in somewhat elliptically, and besides, dwelling on specifics, in general, will get them branded as "wonks".

That's too bad, of course, because it would be nice to see which direction our new President, whomever she or he turns out to be, will take us.”
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25% of Anti-Obama Dems Think He's a Muslim

Commented Mar 28, 2008 at 14:00:33 in Politics

“Conflicting conspiracy theories? Wow, some people's heads are going to explode.”
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25% of Anti-Obama Dems Think He's a Muslim

Commented Mar 28, 2008 at 13:58:52 in Politics

“This just in: 25% of Clinton supporters are completely delusional and lack the ability to think for themselves.

This is a quick and easy stupid test:
Q: Is Obama a Muslim?
If you answered yes, please seek professional help.”

kennedy on Mar 28, 2008 at 15:05:01

“Obama does have Muslim roots.

His father was a Muslim ( until he passed away)

Obama was named after his Muslim father: Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.

Obamas father: Barack Hussein Obama Sr.

Obamas fathers family's are Muslims.

In Obamas own book he says he went to a mostly Muslim school.

Facts are facts.”

Technician on Mar 28, 2008 at 14:40:33

“The question of whether Barak Obama is a Muslim may receive a short answer of "no!" The broad picture does not so easily yield to such black or white answers. If Obama were truly Muslim there are any number of Mosques he could have attended. Whether this would have made sense to a climbing political star is another question. He apparently attended Jerimiah Wright's church for the political advantage that it gave him. He may have avoided Mosque's for the same reason-political advantage. At this point we really don't know much about Obama's religious beliefs. All the Scripture we have heard was misquoted for political advantage.
We do know what he has done. He spent 20 years in a church that supported Anti-Semitism and black superiority. It is said that a man is known by the company he keeps. We know who he has been keeping company with. Many have reacted to any criticism of Obama with a conditioned response of racism. However, color is irrelevant. Whether it is a black Barak Obama or a white David Duke it is a matter of issues and beliefs. Nothing more.”
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Hillary's Honorable Future: A History Lesson

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 18:09:31 in Politics

“Obama said he wasn't there the day Wright said the comments that were on the internet. That is not a lie. Get your facts straight.

At least his accounts on his bills are 90% accurate - and is up for interpretation. Don't forget the source that said Obama lies is Clinton's campaign - which has been caught in complete lies over and over and over again. Unlike Clinton who has told 95% fabrications, or tried to take complete credit for other's work, when she contributed 5-10%.”

bauersox on Mar 27, 2008 at 18:35:23

“"Obama said he wasn't there the day Wright said the comments that were on the internet. That is not a lie. Get your facts straight."

I wouldn't accept an explanation like that one from a six year old.

In terms of being full of crap, it's right up there with his description of his Rezko connection. When first confronted, he said: "I was an associate at a law firm that represented a church group that had partnered with this individual to do a project and I did about five hours worth of work on this joint project. That's what she's {Clinton talked about his slumlord friend, contributor and house-buyer} referring to."

Mistakes were made, but not by him. Right?”
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Where Did McCain Get What He's Got "in the Bank" with the Press?

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 14:14:47 in Home

“For all this article talks about the press wanting to be treated like adults by having people talk candidly to them, there is no talk about how the press treats the American public 10x worse. As someone who has spoken to the press about issues (albeit small local ones), it's amazing how they spin things. So you immediately get on-guard with these people, and you start to resent them for not reporting the facts because all most of them seem to be looking for is a headline that will sell the paper and they will remove all context behind a statement to get it.”
Clinton Donors Object to Pelosi Comment

Clinton Donors Object to Pelosi Comment

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 13:05:45 in Politics

“No kidding.. that's potentially less then a month of fundraising. I would donate to the DNC my small amount to shut these people up.”
Clinton Donors Object to Pelosi Comment

Clinton Donors Object to Pelosi Comment

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 13:03:54 in Politics

“FTA: "In response, Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said: 'Few have done more to build the Democratic Party than Bill and Hillary Clinton. The last thing they need is a lecture from the Obama campaign.'"

This is another complete lie, even bigger than the Bosnia "whopper." The numbers don't lie - few have done more to destroy a political party than the Clintons. Democrats were elected out of office in droves while Bill was president. Not only did Democrats lose control of congress for the first time in decades, the effect the Clinton presidency had on local and state governments for the Democrats was absolutely disastrous. The 1994 mid-term elections is the single most lopsided turnaround in nationwide (local + state + federal) politics in US history. Plus, they've done absolutely nothing to help another Democrat get elected to office after they left.”

Jandie on Mar 27, 2008 at 13:50:03

“babar77 - Totally agree with you - and the reason "why they did absolutely nothing to help another democrat get elected to office after they left" - was because they already had their eye on Hillary becoming President in '08 - If they would of helped Gore or Kerry, she would of had to wait longer for her prize. The Clintons are the most conniving, unscrupulous politicians’ ever; they even give politicians a bad name.”

standforpeace on Mar 27, 2008 at 13:38:41

“Hey stop telling the truth here. You are causing lots of pain to lots of Clinton supporters.”
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Just Who Do These Rich Clinton Donors Think They Are?

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 12:53:29 in Politics

“Which is why he's already succeeded in bringing change. Win or Lose.”
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Just Who Do These Rich Clinton Donors Think They Are?

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 12:49:09 in Politics

“LOL no kidding. I've donated $150 in total which puts be above his average amount. I'm elite!

/sarcasm”
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Just Who Do These Rich Clinton Donors Think They Are?

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 12:46:54 in Politics

“Obama represents the elite? His amount of his average donation is far less than Hillary's or McCain's, and the size of his donor base dwarfs HRC and McCain combined. The obvious conclusion is that Obama's support is clearly coming from the "little people" or the "average Joe's." You logic is extremely flawed.”
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Just Who Do These Rich Clinton Donors Think They Are?

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 12:42:54 in Politics

“The party rules don't favor Obama. The votes do. You're saying that you actually support the ability for a few rich people to overturn the will millions of voters? I'm assuming you agree with this proposal because you want Hillary to win. If that's the case, you are being extremely selfish.”
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The Latest Clinton Canard

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 12:19:36 in Politics

“Well, the voters have pretty much said it's over. That's why there's all this talk about the math. The voters gave Obama this lead that is near impossible for Clinton to beat.

This is no different then when McCain became the presumptive nominee for about a month before finally ending it in Texas. Huckabee was a side show not a viable candidate and the voters made it that way. Much in the same way that the voters have made Clinton a side show, not a viable candidate.”
Clinton Donors Object to Pelosi Comment

Clinton Donors Object to Pelosi Comment

Commented Mar 27, 2008 at 00:50:36 in Politics

“Even if Obama doesn't win, he's already created change by giving ordinary people the ability to combine resources to have a greater voice then a select few.

Apparently these rich donors don't like the fact their influence is about to go out the door.”
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