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Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 15:16:14 in Politics
“I care deeply about my country. I have been around for a long time and I still have hope for the future. I will not give up. I have to admit, this is taking a toll on me but I will not give up as long as I am watching the Democrats working as hard as they are with not one ounce of help from the Republican party. I wish there was some way to get progressives to focus just a little of their anger on that. This health care reform bill could have been incredible if the GOP had not vowed to make it President Obama's "Waterloo.
virginiaplain replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 15:24:31
“America always does the right thing - when it has tried every other way first.
Hang in there.
United, the democrats can achieve a lot - divided, the republicans take the country backwards.
Take it easy.
VP”
Hang in there.
United, the democrats can achieve a lot - divided, the republicans take the country backwards.
Take it easy.
VP”
independentcon replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 15:24:00
“Umm, that's how politics works in a democratic system...t
stillbarbi replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 15:21:08
“You are so right. The Republicans are not helping to govern. All they are doing is obstructing, hoping to win back seats in 2010. How I detest them!”
PATina replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 15:20:47
“You really think having the Republicans involved would have made this bill "incredible"?”
mcantwell replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 15:18:04
“Peace Out! Don't let this get you down. We'll keep fighting the good fight.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 15:01:37 in Politics
“Yes the insurance companies get new customers but you are ignoring the fact that many people will get health care that could not get it before. Your hatred for the insurance industry is understandable to a point but do not ignore the fact that the customers get something good too.”
Patriot86 replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 15:05:08
“If it is so good why not start it now? What are Dems going to run on...and the GOP can kill this bill before it starts if they retake Congress.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:57:31 in Politics
“Isn't that a risky way to look at it. What if you wait until you need medical care and then find out you have a terminal disease that could have been treated, if only you had not tried to game the system.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:48:34 in Politics
“I have never seen such hysteria. Progressives, please get a grip and go do some research on the progress that is being made in the bill. If you will open your minds and stop giving in to your anger, you will find out that we are on the right track and there is much to be applauded here. Are we home yet, no but my goodness, don't go off the deep end so easily.”
helenwheels replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:53:24
“And yet, every progressive journalist and Dr. Dean are telling us what a horribIe biII this is. No hysteria, just facts. It stinks.”
kassandrasduplex replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:52:31
“When Obama agreed in secret to essentially continue the Bush Medicare Part D price gouging by blocking his own party's attempt to return the government's ability to negotiate the lowest drug prices, I gave up right then and there.”
NevadaPatriot replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:50:26
“NO PUBLIC OPTION = NO REFORM.
You do some research!
You have been sold down the river.
You tell me how forcing people to buy shoddy insurance that they cannot afford is good for the American Public?
You tell me how Medicaid is going to afford the massive increase in patients? (STATES ARE BROKE RIGHT NOW! OR MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD!)”
You do some research!
You have been sold down the river.
You tell me how forcing people to buy shoddy insurance that they cannot afford is good for the American Public?
You tell me how Medicaid is going to afford the massive increase in patients? (STATES ARE BROKE RIGHT NOW! OR MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T HEARD!)”
BeasleysMom replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:49:56
“I think many who are hysterical actually are not and never were progressive or even from the Left.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:43:55 in Politics
“It is far to early to write Democrats off.”
southwindow replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:44:58
“they have sided with the insurance companies on healthcare and the with the banks on the economy.
I have written them off.”
I have written them off.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:42:49 in Politics
“Maybe you need to go to a new source and pay closer attention. You are not being accurate with your post.”
Political Conservative replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:49:06
“jActually I am very accurate. Please give credible sources to the contrary. Making it up in your head or what your buddy said doesn't count.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:40:35 in Politics
“Your claim that the American people are not going to get anything positive out of the health care reform bill is just NOT TRUE. In the days to come we will be very busy informing America and as each day passes comments like yours will be proven wrong.”
RoloTomassi replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 15:18:55
“Well then, do inform us of the grand benefits..
But unless you're going to list something new I haven't heard about, you're pi$$ing up a rope....”
But unless you're going to list something new I haven't heard about, you're pi$$ing up a rope....”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:36:33 in Politics
“You are so right Ronin. It is time these hysterical paranoid Beck, Limbaugh, FOX watchers had a dose of the real world.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:31:13 in Politics
“He is the President of the United States. When you hold that office, you have to represent all the people, not just those who voted for you.”
wanttruth replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:45:41
“Well said.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:29:42 in Politics
“People who title themselves as patriots are usually anything but. President Obama is a good leader and a good man. You are a government hater and it really does not matter who it is. We know what the Patriot teabaggers really stand for and it is not America.”
totaldisbelief replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:46:40
“you're overstatin
That term is as vague as "socialist" is”
That term is as vague as "socialist" is”
wanttruth replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:34:13
“Well said.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:26:12 in Politics
“Why should they ever try to do anything for you again. How can you say that we have not passed a bill. The process is not over. You simply gave up much too soon. I have to question your reasoning and ask you how you expect any party to ever take up these kinds of issues, if all they get is vilified for their trouble. We do not live in a perfect world.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:18:05 in Politics
“With your attitude, why should they keep trying at all. That is such defeatest talk. It is a good thing the country is not depending on you for leadership.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:16:12 in Politics
“Nothing "rings with you" that will not stop any of us who care about this country from continuing to try. Please feel free to give up, complain, obstruct and mis-represent all you want, we are in it for the duration and we will not stop making sure the facts get out.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:11:34 in Politics
“He never said he was going to reinvent our government system. He is a politician and he has to abide by the same constitution that everyone else does. You mislead yourself if you thought he would be that kind of different. His administration is already far more inclusive of the American people than Bush ever was.”
OLJW00 replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 18:12:03
“Following the Constitution? Laughable. None of this is Constitutional.
Roosevelt wanted a second Bill of Rights to cover things like healthcare for all BECAUSE it wasn't in the Constitution.
So unless I'm wrong - please do enlighten me as to the specific Amendment that changed things since then. I simply can't wait to hear exactly where the document now allows the Gov't to involve itself in HC - much less force free citizens to purchase insurance simply to remain legal.
I'll be waiting...
Roosevelt wanted a second Bill of Rights to cover things like healthcare for all BECAUSE it wasn't in the Constitution.
So unless I'm wrong - please do enlighten me as to the specific Amendment that changed things since then. I simply can't wait to hear exactly where the document now allows the Gov't to involve itself in HC - much less force free citizens to purchase insurance simply to remain legal.
I'll be waiting...
CardboardBox replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:59:51
“You didn't read the link, did you? No one is talking about violating the Constitution. I'm talking about Corporatism. Obama has convinced you he stood up to the insurance industry (it's right there in his quote) when in reality he did everything possible to keep their money in the Dem party, while extracting minimal concessions from them. In the end it's business as usual, not "change we can believe in." Read the article I linked to or watch this interview:
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Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 14:05:46 in Politics
“The cuts to medicare are not going to effect the care of seniors. It will cut down on the waste that is currently rampant in medicare. We all know what that waste is and the elderly especially know what it is. If they are lead to believe they are being mistreated those who are doing that should be thoroughly ashamed, but I won't hold my breath until they stop lying.”
johnthesavage replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:21:46
“Frankly, I didnt think anyone, even here, could be that obtuse.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:59:27 in Politics
“He said "it looks that way," he did not say it was guaranteed.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:58:01 in Politics
“In what way.”
judyx replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 14:03:05
“Have you been paying attention at ALL?”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:57:10 in Politics
“I am absolutely sure the government cares not one wit about your bathroom habits. It is hard to take people seriously, who make such ridiculous statements.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:55:10 in Politics
“What is your complaint about the banking bill. What do you have a problem with.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:47:11 in Politics
“Your attitude is exactly the reason it is so hard to make progress in this country and it is why politicians often decide it is not worth the effort to try. They are rewarded for their efforts with attitudes like yours.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:44:03 in Politics
“They did admit it. Jim De Mint said he wanted to make health care reform "Obama's Waterloo" Eric Cantor said he had dedicated himself to making sure not one single Republican would vote yes on health care reform. They both made those statements long before they even knew what would be in the bill that we have today. That is undeniable evidence that the Republicans would rather play politics than be a part of health care reform.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:38:31 in Politics
“Thanks for your voice of reason. I am not sure some on this site want to hear reason though. They would rather rant about what they did not get and ignore what they did get.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:35:40 in Politics
“'walk lock-step" sounds like Limbaugh to me. Surely that is not where you choose to inform yourself about important issues.”
VegasWolf replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 13:38:27
“Hardly, "walk-lock step" is a common colloquialism here in the United States in case you don't know.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:32:04 in Politics
“Bush and his administration are responsible for the recession we are in and he is overwhelmingly responsible for the devastating deficit that President Obama has to try to deal with. You can play the blame game all you want but we will always be there to state the facts. Of the 2009 spending President Obama's initiatives make up 18%. President Bush's initiatives make up 41% and the rest are things that get passed from year to year no matter who is in office. As for the health care crisis, not even you should be able to keep a straight face and blame it on Democrats.”
Obama hails 60th Senate vote for health care
Commented Dec 19, 2009 at 13:22:44 in Politics
“Rahm is not in the Congress and he is not writing this bill. Deal in reality for a change.”
kassandrasduplex replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 13:28:49
“Your ignorance of how White House politics works is amusing. Emanuel is pulling a lot of strings, and bringing strong arm pressure to bear on progressives while caving to practically ALL the corporate demands. And yes, Rahm's bro' was writing the Whiote House's "reform" paper. The White House has the power to write legislation and to make deals, just like the one O made with Big Phrma to continue price gouging.”
scully05 replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 13:26:32
“The reality is there are 'people behind the people'
Example: Lobbyists”
Example: Lobbyists”
Mystic01 replied on Dec 19, 2009 at 13:25:39
“He thoroughly influenced it. weren't you paying attention?”
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