camipco's Comments (29)
Health Care Reform: Sifting Through the Suboptimal Solutions
Commented Dec 12, 2009 at 11:37:58 in Politics
“The characters in twilight change frequently? That's a strange choice of analogy. I felt that, for 5 books, there were really few, and consistent characters.”
A Tale of Two Obamas
Commented Dec 07, 2009 at 07:08:00 in Politics
“Great, then we'll have 100 people working for so little money they can't afford to house and feed themselves, let alone get health care or buy anything that will stimulate the economy.
By your logic, Obama could pay every unemployed person 1cent tomorrow and claim there's no unemployment anymore. It's only significant if people have jobs if those jobs allow them to support their families and contribute to the economy. Well-paid workers buy things, which in turn creates more jobs. Well-paid workers create social stability and a health economy. Hiring people for $0.10 an hour creates third-world slums. That might in some statistical sense solve the jobs problem. But it wouldn't create an American economy anyone would be proud of.”
By your logic, Obama could pay every unemployed person 1cent tomorrow and claim there's no unemployment anymore. It's only significant if people have jobs if those jobs allow them to support their families and contribute to the economy. Well-paid workers buy things, which in turn creates more jobs. Well-paid workers create social stability and a health economy. Hiring people for $0.10 an hour creates third-world slums. That might in some statistical sense solve the jobs problem. But it wouldn't create an American economy anyone would be proud of.”
Dreamwalker420 replied on Dec 08, 2009 at 04:05:25
“In reality, the lower cost of wages means that prices would DEFLATE to realistic levels. A "well-paid" worker at $8.40 per hour while Gold is $1150 per ounce versus the "well-paid" worker for $0.25 when Gold was $20.00 an ounce.
1940 Minimum wage 1:80
2009 Minimum wage 1:137
You've lost 50% of that "well-paid" workers salary getting a higher price for him. Good job, keep making the poor poor ... and they love you for it, and you can sleep better at night, right?
Try telling them the truth. Good pay is reflective of the economic impact of those wages. In a generation of systemic stupidity we've lowered the purchasing power of the minium wage and thusly lowered their standard of living.”
1940 Minimum wage 1:80
2009 Minimum wage 1:137
You've lost 50% of that "well-paid" workers salary getting a higher price for him. Good job, keep making the poor poor ... and they love you for it, and you can sleep better at night, right?
Try telling them the truth. Good pay is reflective of the economic impact of those wages. In a generation of systemic stupidity we've lowered the purchasing power of the minium wage and thusly lowered their standard of living.”
Plain Sight Corruption: Senator Burr and Rape Victims
Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 04:44:29 in Politics
“The rapists are subject to criminal law, the arbitration doesn't change that. Normally the victim would (in addition to any criminal charges against the rapists) be able to sue the company for the actions of their employees, for putting her in an unsafe situation, for not responding to her complaints of sexual harassment, for horrific botching the post-rape care, and so forth. This legal right is what's being denied.
In this particular case, however, KBR "lost" the rape kit for two years, and when they "found" it again it was missing crucial evidence, making her criminal case near impossible. They also locked her in a crate under armed guard and refused her access to her family, a lawyer, food, water, or medical care, despite the fact she had just been raped so brutally she required reconstructive surgery.
Personally, I think KBR should be criminally charged for accessory to rape, kidnapping, and tampering with evidence in this case. This isn't just an insufficiently protected work environment, KBR actively endorsed and encouraged the rape by their actions in the aftermath. KBR has also trafficked in human beings. This company needs to be shut down and it's directors need to go to jail.”
In this particular case, however, KBR "lost" the rape kit for two years, and when they "found" it again it was missing crucial evidence, making her criminal case near impossible. They also locked her in a crate under armed guard and refused her access to her family, a lawyer, food, water, or medical care, despite the fact she had just been raped so brutally she required reconstructive surgery.
Personally, I think KBR should be criminally charged for accessory to rape, kidnapping, and tampering with evidence in this case. This isn't just an insufficiently protected work environment, KBR actively endorsed and encouraged the rape by their actions in the aftermath. KBR has also trafficked in human beings. This company needs to be shut down and it's directors need to go to jail.”
Balzac replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 14:35:37
“I agree. Who are the people responsible for this cover-up? People need to be investigating and whistle-blowers inside need to be offered amnesty for delivering the goods on the key players in the decision to deny this young woman her civil rights and dignity after she was raped.”
bobwalters replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 11:49:49
“Your prescription for punishment of KBR and its directors is apt -- especially in view of the fact that corporations, according to SCOTUS and case law, enjoy all the rights of "personhood". So far, however, they have managed to avoid, thru bizarre interpretations of law (limited/no liability for directors, shareholders and managers via the "corporate veil"), any of the responsibilities and/or liabilities of personhood. Insertion of mandatory arbitration clauses into contracts is simply an extension of that avoidance. (Read any of your credit card notices lately, announcing escalation of their interest rate and other fees, due to these "challenging economic environments?" They contain a mandatory arbitration clause in case of ANY dispute, and constitute enforceable contracts. )
What's needed, in addition to prosecuting the specific case with KBR, is legislation: a) creating public financing of election campaigns; b) revoking corporate "personhood"; c) imposing a limit of one or two years on the duration of corporate charters, and requiring applications for charters/renewal of charters to demonstrate, by clear and convincing evidence, that the corporation serves a useful and beneficent PUBLIC purpose -- not just that it provides jobs and makes money; and d) a Constitutional Amendment to forever bar a corporation from being granted "personhood" and thereby claiming the rights and privileges of a human person.”
What's needed, in addition to prosecuting the specific case with KBR, is legislation: a) creating public financing of election campaigns; b) revoking corporate "personhood"; c) imposing a limit of one or two years on the duration of corporate charters, and requiring applications for charters/renewal of charters to demonstrate, by clear and convincing evidence, that the corporation serves a useful and beneficent PUBLIC purpose -- not just that it provides jobs and makes money; and d) a Constitutional Amendment to forever bar a corporation from being granted "personhood" and thereby claiming the rights and privileges of a human person.”
Plain Sight Corruption: Senator Burr and Rape Victims
Commented Nov 05, 2009 at 04:25:58 in Politics
“I'm not sure I buy the argument that distrust is reason enough. If 52% of Americans believed that a senator being a woman hurt her judgment, the correct response is not to get rid of female senators, it is to educate the public.
In addition, without further evidence, I don't think it's clear cut that the money influenced Burr's vote. Isn't it also possible that Burr is a true believer in this extremist ideology? Because he's a true believer, the contributers fund his campaigns, which help him stay in office despite taking unpopular positions?
I think few people want their senators to just watch the polls and vote with their constituents regardless of their own judgement. We chose senators to some extent because we trust them to make the right decisions based on a more thorough understanding of the issues than us.
Imagine this the other way around. What if Senator Franken's constituents were polled and said they were against the Senate meddling in the contract process, but Franken pushed the amendment anyway, because it's the right thing to do? Because they know he's strong on womens' issues like this one, Franken gets lots of contributions from NOW and similar groups. Is this an equally bad scenario? Why not?
I'm just exploring the argument here. I certainly agree that Burr's vote was disgusting, that money is a corrupting influence, and I support public financing.”
In addition, without further evidence, I don't think it's clear cut that the money influenced Burr's vote. Isn't it also possible that Burr is a true believer in this extremist ideology? Because he's a true believer, the contributers fund his campaigns, which help him stay in office despite taking unpopular positions?
I think few people want their senators to just watch the polls and vote with their constituents regardless of their own judgement. We chose senators to some extent because we trust them to make the right decisions based on a more thorough understanding of the issues than us.
Imagine this the other way around. What if Senator Franken's constituents were polled and said they were against the Senate meddling in the contract process, but Franken pushed the amendment anyway, because it's the right thing to do? Because they know he's strong on womens' issues like this one, Franken gets lots of contributions from NOW and similar groups. Is this an equally bad scenario? Why not?
I'm just exploring the argument here. I certainly agree that Burr's vote was disgusting, that money is a corrupting influence, and I support public financing.”
Rogan replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 05:57:22
“Unfortunately, we can't really look at this, as you say, "the other way around," because it didn't work that way, and it never will.
You'll never ever run a poll that finds a majority of any group of people were or are against that "Franken amendment. " It won't happen.”
You'll never ever run a poll that finds a majority of any group of people were or are against that "Franken amendment.
dwright replied on Nov 05, 2009 at 05:52:39
“Let me give you this food for thought - what it if was a man that had been r a P e d? I think Senator Burr would be all over that one with a law suit.
I live in NC and Senator Burr is a right wing nut - I believe his popularity rating used to be in the 30% somewhere and now the last I heard it was in the 20% approval”
I live in NC and Senator Burr is a right wing nut - I believe his popularity rating used to be in the 30% somewhere and now the last I heard it was in the 20% approval”
Thank You, Mr. President
Commented Oct 03, 2009 at 00:45:15 in Media
“The divide in America is increasingly not between liberal and conservative, but between those Americans who believe in a consensual political culture and those who do not. Consensual political culture is the belief that no matter who wins, politics is still done by elections, arguments about facts and policy, that we all want our country to succeed, and that the institutions of our democracy are worth of respect. Then there's those people with a complete disregard for the facts, who have no interest in good policy, who think that only white men are real Americans, are willing to encourage political violence, and who have no respect for the ideals of democracy and equality before the law.
Personally, I'm hoping that the sane part of the GOP will form a new Conservative party in the US. It will actually stand and advocate for fiscal responsibility, small government, personal responsibility, good governance and accountability, personal morality from politicians, strong families and social institutions, and will fight tirelessly to honor and support our active military and veterans. As opposed to the Republican party, which right now stands for none of those things, but is really excited about the possibility of more terrorist attacks on US soil.”
Personally, I'm hoping that the sane part of the GOP will form a new Conservative party in the US. It will actually stand and advocate for fiscal responsibility, small government, personal responsibility, good governance and accountability, personal morality from politicians, strong families and social institutions, and will fight tirelessly to honor and support our active military and veterans. As opposed to the Republican party, which right now stands for none of those things, but is really excited about the possibility of more terrorist attacks on US soil.”
newmillace replied on Oct 03, 2009 at 01:04:28
“Go ahead Joe, Tell him he is wrong, or is he?”
Iam12Vote replied on Oct 03, 2009 at 00:55:34
“Well done. Fanned.”
Tea Party Founder Announces: "A Huffington Post Of Our Own"
Commented Sep 27, 2009 at 17:38:34 in Politics
“Er... Drudge?”
Does Humana Have a Free Speech Right To Mislead The Elderly?
Commented Sep 24, 2009 at 05:02:13 in Politics
“I think it would be reasonable for corporations to have the rights of people if they also had the same responsibilities. In the UK, for example, a corporation can be charged with corporate manslaughter. If similar laws were in effect in the US, really treating corporations equally before the law in rights and legal culpability, then the situation would be less offensive.”
Does Humana Have a Free Speech Right To Mislead The Elderly?
Commented Sep 24, 2009 at 04:57:08 in Politics
“Yes, Humana absolutely has a first amendment right to lie to the elderly. However, they do not have any right to continue to receive taxpayer money. In addition, they do not have any right to sell their product on the market place without having to tell all their potential customers "government warning: Humana lies to the elderly."”
Watch: 5 Benefits To Legal Weed (& The 1 Big Thing Stopping It)
Commented Apr 03, 2009 at 03:36:12 in Politics
“He believes he has a limited amount of political capital, and believes that this issue is very expensive in political capital. Further, he believes that the people who are pro-legalization will support him anyway because we also care about health care, education and the environment but that there are people in the middle whose support he would lose. He believes the press would fall over themselves making fun of him and marginalizing him, and that would get in the way of his agenda, which he thinks is more important.
Finally, legalization wasn't one of his campaign promises. I'm happy to see a politician who does his best to enact the agenda the people elected him for, even if I don't agree 100% with that agenda.”
Finally, legalization wasn't one of his campaign promises. I'm happy to see a politician who does his best to enact the agenda the people elected him for, even if I don't agree 100% with that agenda.”
BBackSoon replied on Apr 03, 2009 at 11:30:18
“I agree but I am also hopeful that once some of the bigger fires are controlled perhaps we can have a rational discussion about our failed drug policies.
I am not even talking about legalization at this time; I would simply like our federal and state governments to have honest discussions about our drug policies. This would be so much better than the Just say No, Mandatory Sentencing BS.”
I am not even talking about legalization at this time; I would simply like our federal and state governments to have honest discussions about our drug policies. This would be so much better than the Just say No, Mandatory Sentencing BS.”
WorkingClass replied on Apr 03, 2009 at 09:02:07
“If he does his job he cant keep his job? If he does the right thing the corporate media might "say something"? This is all very good defense of cowardice and self serving.”
MsLiz replied on Apr 03, 2009 at 08:09:32
“I have to applaud your statement. It's the most realistic appraisal of Obama's pot dilemma I have read here.”
Watch: 5 Benefits To Legal Weed (& The 1 Big Thing Stopping It)
Commented Apr 03, 2009 at 03:28:34 in Politics
“I don't think he's fully right about the reason it remains illegal. I think the war on drugs is sustained as politically viable by scare tactics rather than numbers - and it's drugs like meth that provide those. I think the reason politicians won't touch the issue is far less considered. The political wisdom in Washington is that marijuana is a political loser, there's no votes in it, that anyone who supports it will be marginalized and is risking their political career. Whether this is true or not (and to some extent it probably is true for at least a large number of congress) isn't the point, they all believe it to be true.
In short, congress people believe that if they support legalization they will lose their seats, and the motivation to stay in office trumps all other reasons.”
In short, congress people believe that if they support legalization they will lose their seats, and the motivation to stay in office trumps all other reasons.”
The Weight Loss Hype: Why Counting Calories Never Works
Commented Mar 26, 2009 at 18:28:20 in Living
“You can definitely eat too many calories of boiled pasta in one sitting. It's high carbohydrate, low fat, and you can eat it until you aren't hungry and still gain weight.
Any diet that claims to be easy is lying. As other posters have mentioned, Eat More, Weigh Less has lots of additional complex requirements than this blog posts suggests.”
Any diet that claims to be easy is lying. As other posters have mentioned, Eat More, Weigh Less has lots of additional complex requirements than this blog posts suggests.”
ErikW65 replied on Mar 26, 2009 at 19:20:30
“The body's ability to convert carbs to stored fat is completely ignored by the "eat all the whole grain carbs you want" diet.”
biglover replied on Mar 26, 2009 at 19:18:38
“I totally disagree. Counting calories is the only way. Exercise does not make you lose weight unless you don't eat. Exercise in fact makes you weigh more as muscles weigh more than flab. However, I guarantee any woman will lose weight on 1200 calories and maintain that weight at 1500. I know I have done it all my life and believe me I tried low fat, low carbs, high fat, low carbs and none of then work like counting calories. This way you can eat what foods you like except less of them.”
The AP, Obama, & Referencing
Commented Mar 26, 2009 at 18:19:41 in Media
“Art does not need more lawyers.”
A Message to Obama's Progressive Critics
Commented Dec 08, 2008 at 00:38:58 in Politics
“This article completely (intentionally) misses the point. For example, the progressive criticism of Obama's health care plan is that it won't fix health care because it gives too many concessions to the insurance industry. The progressive criticism is that a compromise plan on health care will make the situation worse by channeling tax payer money to fund the cause of the problem. Saying "please stop make these criticisms until we're done fixing health care - this stuff is hard!" is a complete non-answer to those critics.
There are things on the progressive agenda, for example passing a national law that allows all Americans to marry regardless of gender, for which we on the left are prepared to wait, since we understand there's a lot of work to do. If that was the progressive criticism of Obama, this article would be a response.
But the progressive criticism of Obama is about the danger of compromise with failed right wing solutions to the problems which need to be addressed now. The economy isn't going to get better faster, for example, if we compromise on the biggest and boldest public works program targeted at the working class and paid for by the super rich. It isn't going to get better if we accept the right wing garbage that raising taxes on the super rich has a negative impact on economic growth.”
There are things on the progressive agenda, for example passing a national law that allows all Americans to marry regardless of gender, for which we on the left are prepared to wait, since we understand there's a lot of work to do. If that was the progressive criticism of Obama, this article would be a response.
But the progressive criticism of Obama is about the danger of compromise with failed right wing solutions to the problems which need to be addressed now. The economy isn't going to get better faster, for example, if we compromise on the biggest and boldest public works program targeted at the working class and paid for by the super rich. It isn't going to get better if we accept the right wing garbage that raising taxes on the super rich has a negative impact on economic growth.”
laire replied on Dec 08, 2008 at 01:30:38
“camipco,
I have to disagree with you the point is people on the left are saying Obama is not a progressive and he is not bringing change with the selection of his team that's the point. As far as health care goes you have to take baby steps before you can walk. Compromise is the name of the game in politics and you need to work with the other side and I'm not aware of any times Obama has signed on to a failed policy. I think we need to stop under estimating Obama skills and give him a chance to put policies in place before we rip him apart. I understand the frustration but things don't turn around in a New York minute things do take time let him become president and fill is whole team out and then we can take a sober look at his appointments.”
I have to disagree with you the point is people on the left are saying Obama is not a progressive and he is not bringing change with the selection of his team that's the point. As far as health care goes you have to take baby steps before you can walk. Compromise is the name of the game in politics and you need to work with the other side and I'm not aware of any times Obama has signed on to a failed policy. I think we need to stop under estimating Obama skills and give him a chance to put policies in place before we rip him apart. I understand the frustration but things don't turn around in a New York minute things do take time let him become president and fill is whole team out and then we can take a sober look at his appointments.”
citadelgrrl05 replied on Dec 08, 2008 at 01:01:21
“hey captain obvious compromise is the oNLY WAYTHAT you will gt any of what you want!!! Not everyone in this country feels the same way, you have to compromie, I would rather get some kind of a system going which will eventually lead to full universal healthcare, that is what is wrong with folks on the right and left they don't bekeiev in compromise, which is why we get NOWHERE AND NOTHING DONE, so stop complaining and start focing on a functioning government, I don't care where the ideas come from right ,left center, if it wortks that is all I care about. I wanta smart, effective, government. SO YOU OVER zealous people STOP COMPLAINING, nothing is evr going to be the way you want it”
allonfla replied on Dec 08, 2008 at 00:52:07
“Stop lying. Progressives are complaining because Obama hasn't appointed one of your own in top spots of his candidate. If any of you are having problems with his agenda - THAT'S WHAT CHANGE.GOV IS FOR - DUH!”
John McCain's Flat Tax October Surprise
Commented Oct 17, 2008 at 13:42:39 in Politics
“Also, his name is Sam and he isn't really a plumber.”
John McCain's Flat Tax October Surprise
Commented Oct 17, 2008 at 13:41:37 in Politics
“Great. I hope he does.
McCain's problem isn't that voters don't like the policies he's pitching. It's that he's coming across as angry, erratic, and panicked when the country clearly needs a calm and thoughtful hand like Obama. Pitching yet another new policy right before the election will just confirm voters' impressions that McCain will say anything to win and isn't thinking carefully about his policies.
Remember, one of the things a lot of people liked about Bush was that he stood his ground on his positions. Americans like that steadiness in the face of adversity. It reminds us of John Wayne. We like John Wayne.
In short, pitching a radical new policy now looks like "win first", not "country first".
Also, the flat tax is really dumb.”
McCain's problem isn't that voters don't like the policies he's pitching. It's that he's coming across as angry, erratic, and panicked when the country clearly needs a calm and thoughtful hand like Obama. Pitching yet another new policy right before the election will just confirm voters' impressions that McCain will say anything to win and isn't thinking carefully about his policies.
Remember, one of the things a lot of people liked about Bush was that he stood his ground on his positions. Americans like that steadiness in the face of adversity. It reminds us of John Wayne. We like John Wayne.
In short, pitching a radical new policy now looks like "win first", not "country first".
Also, the flat tax is really dumb.”
BassMent replied on Oct 17, 2008 at 13:54:48
“Right on, camipco. McCain has been thrashing for weeks now, and he'll only compound that perception with one more lurch... especially if it's in the direction of a taxation proposal that has been shown time and again to be unworkable.”
Top Ten Reasons McCain-Palin Could Win
Commented Sep 04, 2008 at 13:04:46 in Politics
“Before the conventions, Republicans were already unified behind McCain (about 90%, according to polls, compared to 79% for Obama). Palin is unlikely add much to that base, but she will drive up the Democratic base numbers. A play to the base strategy works both ways, especially when it's as blatant and aggressive as Palin's speech last night. That's good news for Dems, we're the ones with the base problem. In addition, the Dem base is much larger in 2008 than the Republican. There's just a lot more registered Democrats.
We're also seeing a rare exception to IOKIYAR. Palin's scandals are being investigated and questioned by the media, as is McCain's blatant lack of a vetting process (just today it was revealed by the FBI that Rick Davis lied about Palin undergoing an FBI background check).”
We're also seeing a rare exception to IOKIYAR. Palin's scandals are being investigated and questioned by the media, as is McCain's blatant lack of a vetting process (just today it was revealed by the FBI that Rick Davis lied about Palin undergoing an FBI background check).”
Obama and the Bradley Effect
Commented Aug 21, 2008 at 13:45:31 in Politics
“There's been some evidence that the Bradley effect has been much overstated, and has significantly declined since the 80s.
Look, for example, at this analysis from fivethirth eight.com which finds that, on average, primary pollsters UNDER counted Obama votes by 3.3%
http://www .fivethirt yeight.com /2008/08/p ersistent- myth-of-br adley-effe ct.html”
Look, for example, at this analysis from fivethirth
http://www
jspivey replied on Aug 22, 2008 at 08:41:25
“Suggesting to people -- or saying it outright -- that if they don't vote for Obama that they are probably racist is a bad tactic in and of itself. Some of us look at that as blackmail and we refuse to allow the election to be hijacked by that sort of filthy tactic.”
Obama vs. "Oh, Bomb 'Em" -- Who's the Christian?
Commented Aug 20, 2008 at 03:38:09 in Politics
“You're forgetting that "Christian" or "Judeo-Christian" in McCain's words, is code for "white folks like us." Everyone else, especially "radical Islam" which is code for "all Arabs and Persians too if we'd heard of Persians" are evil and therefore must be destroyed. At least, that's what "Jesus says", which is code for "your millionaire mega-church pastor told you"”
John McCain Is Lying About the Cross in the Dirt, and He Needs To Be Called Out
Commented Aug 19, 2008 at 12:55:39 in Politics
“I think you're reading this line wrong.
For a start, it was entirely expected that there would be a question on the Supreme Court. You can bet Obama was expecting one too.
I think Warren here is just jesting.
I'm not saying McCain didn't cheat, he might well have. He definitely lied to Warren about being in the cone of silence. It's even possible that he conspired with Warren. I'm just saying this line isn't evidence of that.”
For a start, it was entirely expected that there would be a question on the Supreme Court. You can bet Obama was expecting one too.
I think Warren here is just jesting.
I'm not saying McCain didn't cheat, he might well have. He definitely lied to Warren about being in the cone of silence. It's even possible that he conspired with Warren. I'm just saying this line isn't evidence of that.”
The October Surprise Shouldn't Come as One
Commented Aug 15, 2008 at 22:20:49 in Politics
“Or war with Russia.
http://www .dailykos. com/storyo nly/2008/8 /15/20847/ 8772/893/5 68645
The Georgian troops that invaded South Ossetia were trained, last month, by the US.”
http://www
The Georgian troops that invaded South Ossetia were trained, last month, by the US.”
For Obama, The Latest News Is Not Good
Commented Aug 03, 2008 at 19:40:28 in Politics
“Obama's still about 70 electoral votes ahead in the polls, so the ceiling of "new politics" is high enough to win the Presidency.
Having said that, you're right that he needs to fight on economic issues. He's already begun doing this, check out his latest town halls and ads at his youtube channel. The real problem is how to get the press to pay attention to anything else when you wave Paris Hilton in front of them.”
Having said that, you're right that he needs to fight on economic issues. He's already begun doing this, check out his latest town halls and ads at his youtube channel. The real problem is how to get the press to pay attention to anything else when you wave Paris Hilton in front of them.”
For Obama, The Latest News Is Not Good
Commented Aug 03, 2008 at 19:37:42 in Politics
“Maybe Obama isn't flinging mud because he has actual policies to talk about that will improve the lives of average Americans. Maybe he isn't flinging mud because, like McCain, he said he wanted a new type of politics, and unlike McCain he wasn't lying.
Maybe Obama isn't flinging mud because he has class.”
Maybe Obama isn't flinging mud because he has class.”
armadillious2002 replied on Aug 03, 2008 at 21:46:12
“Didn't work for Kerry and it won't work for Obama either - The swift boaters will bury him if he doesn't put repubs on the defensive and soon. All this warm fuzzy stuff worked fine for the Dems and the primary but it loses elections as we have seen in the past.”
BigBen replied on Aug 03, 2008 at 20:53:46
“Bill told the super delegates what he found out while campaigning for Hillary ie that race would play a part and that blue collar white people would not vote for Obama. They would not listen. He warned that Hillary was an angel by comparison with the Republicans but they would not listen.He told them that the swing states would not vote for a black candidate and they would not listen. He said "Don't roll the dice" but they did and now we wait for the crap shoot to end.”
More Big Macs for Barack, Part II
Commented Aug 02, 2008 at 07:56:35 in Home
“More to the point, Michelle Obama is really intelligent.”
More Big Macs for Barack, Part II
Commented Aug 02, 2008 at 07:51:53 in Home
“Yes, but no one likes Bush. Obama, you see, is slim, fit AND popular. Obviously a terrible combination in a President.”


