“PPCoalman, I'm sure you're a well-intended person, but you're making some of the weakest arguments put forth by the corporatocracy.
I'm a liberal and don't believe that all "corporations are bad." What I do believe is that this country was founded on the political principle that the people should rule themselves through their government. That's democracy. We live in a democratic republic. Government exists to secure the inalienable rights of the People.
When any non-human entity becomes powerful enough to control government in order to bend it to favor its interests over those of the people, then we are losing democracy -- and that is a serious problem for anyone who believes in the meaning and purpose of our once-great nation.
There are plenty of people who can remember the 40s, 50s and 60s, when businesses were primarily local and gave good wages benefits, including pensions, to their employees, when the top marginal tax rate was always over 70% (twice what it is now), and the middle class flourished. We had capitalism, but it was tamed and made benign by government regulation.
Everything started to go south with the reagn administration. Unions were busted, corporations deregulated, and over the next three decades, middle class Americans lost out big time.
You should do more research, more reading. Especially if you care about your children's future.”
AudreySophie on Dec 11, 2013 at 01:25:38
“that comment is the reason I fan you.
If you take capitalism without any rules, even Smith would told, it is bad, it will not work. Smith was even clear on some point, that free could accomplish everything.
Neoliberals like reagen came with a false interpretation of Smith and brought capitalism near the edge, it is no longer good now...”
“As Joeyjackal pointed out to me, China is one of the signatories to this trade deal, and China is our largest creditor. They could do damage to the U.S. of A. if we didn't cooperate.
So what is Obama to do?
Ah, Lord save us all. It's the young people who break my heart. What future do they have, at this point?”
PPCoalman on Dec 8, 2013 at 20:19:56
“While nothing should surprise us anymore, China would do much more harm to themselves if they were to try and use the debt they hold as a lever. We are the largest market for their goods and trashing the market for US bonds will cost China as much as the US. For good or bad we are both joined at the hip.
The President is caught between wanting to satisfy the liberal beliefe that corporations are bad, and the reality that if it is not profitable to develp drugs, there will be fewer new drugs developed. It ought to be no surprise that most advanced drugs are developed in the US. Even though the process of getting approval is far more difficult, the ability to make money on new discoveries is far higher in the US than anywhere.
Make it less profitable and fewer drugs will be worth the risk.
We have two younger children and I agree celere; there are fewer opportunities today then ever. Increasing the cost of employment will result in fewer jobs being created. This isn't a left or right issue.”
Who will protect the people? Anonymous, perhaps? I'd really like to hear the trumpets of the cavalry coming over the hill one of these days.”
The Joler on Dec 8, 2013 at 22:01:36
“Why would you think that anyone needed to twist his arm. For at least the last 40 years the USA has been drifting towards facism regardless of which political party has been in power. Both major political parties are owned by the monied elites. They merely play a game of pretense so as to delude the public that some of them have concerns about the public interest. In reality all that they care about is meeting the demands of their corporate masters. The President of the USA is just a lap dog for the elites these days. Has been that ways for decades now.”
Joeyjackal on Dec 8, 2013 at 19:41:49
“As China would be one of the signatories for this proposal and is also our largest creditor nation, I would venture to guess that would give them a lot of leverage for arm-twisting.”
Bobotheclown on Dec 8, 2013 at 19:29:42
“Twist his arm? He is a corporate guy down to his bones. Obama is the most conservative Democratic President in a hundred years. They don't have to twist anything, they just have to wait and select which goodies to take from the plate he offers them. Obama is going to be the only Democrat on a lot of Republican heavy boards when he retires. He is not going to build houses for the needy and he is not going to cure AIDS. He is going to golf with his white friends at the country club and smile that never ending smile.”
GoldwaterKid on Dec 8, 2013 at 19:24:08
“Interesting times isn't it when we all agree on the fact that TPP and NSA are both not good for Americans.”
“Republicans like Mr. Paul show an amazing penchant for pretending that we're not living in a devastated economy where jobs are scarce and pay is often too low to live on.
If they cared one bit about the American people, they would have spent the past five years fighting for a good jobs bill and for legislation that encourages domestic business enterprise, instead of ignoring the plight of American workers and rewarding businesses that ship jobs overseas.
This bit about removing the social safety net just adds insult to injury. Enough!”
Fussy on Dec 8, 2013 at 18:15:24
“Please elaborate on what you consider a good jobs bill.
Also, please explain what reward businesses get for sending jobs overseas, because there is none.
In what way does reducing the length of unemployment benefits, historically 26 weeks, take away the social safety net?”
“If you know him within a social context, like work or church, be on the alert when you break up with him. Odds are, he'll start a smear campaign against you. All those little personal he finagled out of you will float around, twisted out of shape and unrecognizable.
Be very, very careful if a guy seems, from the start, too good to be true.”
PleaseUnderstand on Dec 9, 2013 at 05:16:27
“Is the guy too good to be true or are you perceiving him as such due to a variety of factors. Most times the signs are there but due to our own insecurity,loneliness, etc. we overlook it in favor of 'good' company.
I have been guilty of this myself and it is not until after the foundation breaks, I realize it was all a pipe dream with no chance of survival.”
frozenlake on Dec 8, 2013 at 17:52:11
“By that logic I must be totally and utterly trustworthy.”
“Well that's interesting, since he was the one who corrected the error. But you what? It's a tempest in a teapot (which is all the Right can muster these days), since it really doesn't matter how well he once knew his own uncle (from whom he became estranged at some point.) It's a big nothing.”
“Your view is more hard-minded and cynical than mine, Erik, but it's plausible. I always assume the 1% are fully aware of global warming but, given their vast resources, see it as something that will affect/destroy the lower 50%, while they, the 1%, can continue to live on a separate, protected level above the rest of us.
But I like your hard-headedness; our side needs more of that. Alas, I'm getting amazingly "soft" as the years go by. Anyway, fanned back. ;-)”
“I think this president has been fairly honest, more honest than most. Not terribly transparent, as he knows full well how under attack he is, but he's not a "liar." Nothing like the other side -- if you haven't noticed.”