“Wingers consistently display an astounding lack of respect for, and understanding of, intellectual property and copyrights. How many artists' music have they tried to use without proper authorization or consent?
That goes to show ya what the "Party of Personal Responsibility" is really made of.”
“I wish that was true as well, but in some corners of the world our species has barely evolved past the caveman mentality - and that's no exaggeration. Some people are literally only one step removed from Neanderthals.”
“Indeed, the bigots always somehow assume that some people "choose" to be gay, and that it's very wrong and immoral to "choose" to be like that. I'd like to ask those people, "why would someone CHOOSE to subject themselves to condemnation, ridicule, bigotry or worse? We all know homosexuality isn't widely accepted in our world yet... and you're telling me some people choose to make life harder on themselves for no real reason?"”
“does anybody get that both sides are at fault, both sides are responsible, and that the conflict will never end so long as both sides see themselves as justified in killing the other in retribution? This insane cycle of violence is a perfect manifestation of the primitiveness and spiritual ignorance of the human race.”
“finethnx, do Anti-Obamanites always draw every parallel they can to Obama, as if us his supporters were doing it? The above posts were insightful and eloquent. Obama is not Gandhi, yes, yes, we get it. No one compared them. We are adults. Children, on the other hand, have an annoying trait of ignoring reason for illogical, twisted arguments and convoluted comparisons...
As for the comparison between Bush and Obama, that's even more ridiculous than the already risible comparisons between Obama and Cheney, Obama and Rove, Obama and Condoleeza Rice... comparisons which seem to come almost exclusively from the Clinton camp. Try to start thinking like a mature adult.”
“I love how Wal-Mart began their response... I'm paraphrasing, but its tone is just classic, and so indicative of their corporate greed: "We understand that people's passions sometimes get aroused, but it's just money..." Hee hee
Wal-Mart has a long and sad history of this kind of oblivious profiteering. For all their fabulous wealth, the Waltons sure don't seem a decent bunch... and the voices that defend them are really defending the "profit at any cost" mentality that gives this people the gall to think they can rake in billions of dollars of profit, not pay their employees decent wages or allow them privileges,exploit them when they can, and then turn around and explain how "legitimate" their business practices are... which still doesn't make them compassionate, humane practices.”
“Sorry, this is a cherry-picked argument of the Clinton camp, designed to fit their needs. Everyone knows that if Hill was leading like Obama is, she'd be pressuring the entire solar system to end this thing already, voters be damned. Let's note, BTW, that Obama isn't doing that -- he's content to let Hill implode...”
“This isn't like most nominations, that's true... so does that mean it's also a reason to go down every state and every precinct all the way to the convention, even at the expense of the party? This is the Dem nomination, not the GE.
Of course, Hillary can continue all the way till the end... but the point is, there's no rule that says this MUST happen. If she doesn't quit before June, a massive exodus of superdelegates might just do the trick -- and this will be perfectly legitimate.”
“Hilarious reasoning, especially to me as an Obama supporter -- but alas, I think it's wrong. So much wishful thinking... Hillary does intend to fight this thing tooth and nail, and it's doubtful she will ever quit the race. When she says she's going all the way to the Convention, I believe her... :(”
“So all the polls that show Obama as more or less unscathed from the Wright debacle are wrong? Are they made up? Superdelegates keep switching because he's gonna lose? And his prospects are as good as ever because he's the loser?
Rev. Wright may be a deal breaker for you and your family, but maybe you all don't know how to elect a president. At least America at large seems to be concerned with more important matters... After all, you just said you'd rather vote for McCain, who is sure to perpetuate the disastrous policies that have weakened America. How does that make any sense?
“The US apparently IS ready to elect a black man, or Obama wouldn't have gotten thsi far. The real truth of the matter is that a decent chunk of the American population is not prepared to ACCEPT a black president.”
WilliamBentley2 on Mar 31, 2008 at 21:59:23
You are probably right about the "The real truth of the matter is that a decent chunk of the American population is not prepared to ACCEPT a black president." statement. But, the real *real* truth is that they're going to have to get over it.”
“If you're gonna make this argument, you need to realize that Clinton and McCain are far better at "misdirecting the truth for their own benefit". I mean, in the grand scope of things, what matters more: Obama's church's "real" color or Hillary and John's support of the Iraq fiasco?”
democraticjack on Mar 31, 2008 at 20:02:47
“Actually, probably John's support of the Iraq fiasco as he will probably be the next President since Obama is unelectable.”
“Anti-Obama folk like you, Sylvia, will continue to twist as many words as necessary to justify your positions, but some of us can draw our own conclusions from what others say -- we don't need interpreters. For example, the claim that Obama somehow "disowned" or "threw under the bus" his white grandmother seems like a total stretch -- black-and-white thinking, no pun intended. I'm sure that by your standards, Obama ought to leave his church, nationally apologize to the memory of his deceased grandmother and quit the race...
Obama took the problem brought about onto his campaign by Rev. Wright and turned it into an opportunity to address racial concerns that are seldom articulated, and seldom so honestly and insightfully. But you couldn't hear those words... your mind was too busy looking for hidden agendas the entire time.”
“Timothe, you're about as out of touch with reality as you righties get. It must be so weird to live in a reality that you dislike, yet cling so tenaciously to a fiction that I'm sure brings you no real comfort. America's reputation internationally is damaged, its economy in dire straits, its servicemen literally dying by the thousands in a disastrous war, and its population tired of the lies, greed and blatant hypocrisy of the current administration and the party that led it there. that's a plain fact that cannot be denied, ignored or refuted. The most amazing thing to us on the left is how incredibly bold and gleeful Bush and his gang have been in sodomizing America. Their lies and corruption are exposed (more like stumbled upon) on a regular basis but they just smirk and carry on!
Most people everywhere draw a relation between their view of a foreign government and their view of that nation or people, thus, “America” is disliked because the Bush administration has been so aggressively stupid. Yet anyone who encounters a foreigner, here or abroad, knows that they cannot equate that person's opinions with those of their government, unless of course they're one and the same, as they appear to be in your case. You sound completely like someone in the Bush Administration: either willfully distorting the truth to suit their needs, or just too ignorant to know the difference between reality and fiction.”
“McCain has been out-campaigned, out-fundraised and outmatched by Obama, and Democrats are outvoting Republicans in significant numbers. That's a plain fact, but I'm sure some poll somewhere showing 52% for McCain, plus all the other neocon lies and fictions you believe, make up a coherent and logical worldview for you. Except, you know, when it clashes with reality, like, every day... See you in Nov.”
“The Soviet Union collapsed under its own weight, a massive monolithic giant unable to move fast enough, undone by its own hubris and its inability to finance itself. Seems the U.S. is now following the same downward path, collapsing spectacularly due to the natural consequence of talking unbridled, laissez-faire capitalism to its logical extreme: rampant greed that has corrupted the political process, owns the media to shape people's minds as they see fit, and is ultimately eating itself in the process. Witness the decadence of yet another empire built on sand.”