concern4civility's Comments (30)

“Maybe you and family should just stick to watching Barney. And don't forget to wear a helmet!”

“You seriously think the Sesame Workshop or PBS would allow this to air? Wow.”

“Ditto that. I have a four year old. Then again, unless she knows what necrophilia is, no harm done, I suppose. The rest, she's got down pat.”

“on youtube it says these are the out takes from Gervais's upcoming appearance on Sesame Street. don't worry.”

“he said necrophilia. don't worry.”

“Everyone in congress doesn't have to support everything the president does. It's called checks and balances, and it prevents a dictatorship...when it works like it's supposed to.”

“Legislative records are available at:

http://www.thomas.gov/”

“their solution was not to release the second traunch without well-defined purse strings and accountability... seems like a darn good idea to me...”

“It was a symbolic vote. It did nothing to stop the release of funds.”

“Very true and correct. It is like having Vespasian after suffering Nero in ancient Rome.”

“Well said. Thank you!”

“I've been saying the same thing- Bush's reign made it possible for Barack Obama to be President. As painful as that is, there are elements of truth there.”

“Well said. Outstanding post.”

“you said at all.”

“Go ahead, live in that euphoric state of denial. Enjoy it while it lasts. But the fact that the Republicans "Love" Rahmbo should be a warning sign.

II'm with Naomi Klein who says of Obama nauts that they are intellectually dishonest.
They bought into the myth of the Clinton Years (for political effect and good cause) but the reality is that Obama's economic staff is actually more of the same. The same forces (Wall street, deregulation) that brought us this mess, in fact the ground work for the current mess was laid, in part during the Clinton Years, but the same players, like Summers, Geithner and Orszag that are re emerging under Obama. I don't think Obama knows, I hope not, and I hope it is only a case of naivette, then again there are powerful forces at work to influence him and his policies.

All progressives should watch Democracy Now or at least read their daily transcripts such as
Naomi Klein, Robert Kuttner and Michael Hudson Dissect Obama’s New Economic Team & Stimulus Plan at http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/25/naomi_klein_robert_kuttner_and_michael

But maybe I err in assuming that the readers and posters of Huff are principled progressives.”

“you nailed it in your last sentence. the change won't happen from the top down, but the bottom up. beware of top down institutions to motivate the bottom to do their bidding.

the New World Order: "we play, you pay"”

“It is called hypocrisy, period. Yes this is an important story if it is true and this doesn't prove it yet, but they were right about John Edwards who I used to like. But to go out there on the campaign trail and badmouth Obama about every thing under the sun, it is an important story about hypocrisy, and Cindy McCain has her own money she doesnt have to stay married period. I don't feel sorry for her one bit. It is called Karma.”

“Rove & Co. knew about Wright and Ayers before Obama declared -- you think they're dumb or something? Hillary did not bring up Wright and Ayers.

If it wasn't for HRC, Obama would not have been elected. It's just a fact.

And if Clinton was so terrible, why did Obama have so many Clintonites as his advisors and now his staff and Cabinet will be Clintonian. And that's all good.”

“The Clinton's are disgusting hypocrites, They trashed Obama, and they are responsible for that drama which Ayers and Wright brought. I can't stand the Clinton's.. They caused so much grief in the campaign. Months of grief caused by the Clinton's. I always thought Hillary is too polarizing to run for president.
And the damn nerve of them demanding Obama apologize for what Geffen said.

Thank you David Geffen for telling the truth about the Clinton's.”

“I agree with you. I think all of these are pre-rationalizations for vote theft and rigging. When it happens, everyone will have a "theory" to back up the "unreality" and the conspiracy will be pulled off. I know I, and a lot of other Americans, are very much worried about this. When it happens, my fear also is that the MSM will step right in line and start going, "who would know that the country would do this?" And wring their hands that the polls were so wrong, but they would have a ready made "Bradley Effect" theory that the right wing will repeat endlessly, and middle America will applaud at white people finally seeing reason!

The same thing happened in 04 when all the exit polls predicted Kerry and lo and behold Bush pulls it off by a couple hundred votes, and instead of questioning the legitimacy of the vote, they just say "oh well, who knew that polls could be so wrong." Yeah, who knew?

I fear a repeat.

If it happens, two things have to happen. People have to take to the streets (but thanks to the revoking of posse comitatus, and the military on the streets of the US, they're prepared for that), and the media (who overwhelmingly supported Obama on the editorial pages) has to stand up.

Worst case scenario is that the military will quash protest, and the corporate owners will overrule editorial, and just accept a GOP steal.”

“I did not watch it. I have already made up my mind and a debate will not have any effect on my decision.”

“I'm with you, Garvin's snide remarks about St. Louis and Arizona viewers is devoid of any real analysis so they just represent a phony attempt at humor.”

“yes, but... understand what?”

“I have always thought that lack of media coverage of his campaign and its issues of decency and fairness for all Americans AND the tabloid pursuit for proof of his affair were no coincidences in this age of media conglomerates. The conservatives and their corporate supporters had the most to fear from Edwards and the most to gain by first marginalizing hi during the primary season and then destroying his career. forever (if they could).

That said, apparently Edwards learned NOTHING from Bill Clinton's experiences....he ought to have realized that there were people out to destroy him and that constant surveillance was part of their plan.”

“I too was disappointed in Obama's response...deeply disappointed. I've continued to support Obama's candidacy, even though I haven't agreed with several recent decisions made by his campaign. But they were minor concerns to me - not like his repudiation of General Clark's comments.

Long before I knew of anyone named Barack Obama, I spent many months in 2003 as one of the early members of the Draft Wesley Clark movement...pledging, waiting, hoping, and praying that he would run. I remember being ecstatic when he jumped into the race - and devastated when he dropped out. Wes Clark is an honorable man, not someone who would take pot shots at a fellow veteran for partisan political advantage. What he said was true! John McCain most certainly knows that - and Barack Obama SHOULD have known that. But neither man has the XXXXX to acknowledge it. Despite their promises to run a different kind of presidential campaign, this 2008 campaign is beginning to look more and more like all those we've groaned through in the past.”

“I like Obama, but this distancing himself of everybody who speaks the truth is getting mf-ing annoying. And if I hear anymore pandering, I'm going to puke.”

“I kind of thought he distanced himself from the misinterpretation of Clark's remarks (i.e. no, you don't bash someone's service record), but not Clark's actual remarks. I only saw the recap clips, however and could have missed something. Did they mention clark by name?”

“Just watch. He knows exactly what he is doing.”