“"...both died at the hands of the Roman Pontiff Peter..."
I thought Pontius Pilote ordered him killed ?
HTM on Nov 25, 2013 at 12:56:41
“Someone gave direct orders to have Jesus and the 12 disciples killed to put down insurrection to Caesar authority. Correct me if I'm wrong, the Romans were the super Power doing the so called crucifixion of JC. The crosses that Christians wear symbolizes those who opposes Caesar Power but now is represents Christianity, Oxymoron don't you think. Well my point is that Rome, roman Empire are one of the same just their power is spread and shared across 7 continents they are they same folks that killed Jesus and now claiming to be messengers of Christ. But they kill the messenger and distorted the word of God? My case is closed on this matter because is give life to atheist rights to denounce the man made myth about God”
“But in retrospect; is it as disturbing as the clip, of Dan Rather telling the nation: "ah second shot, the third total shot, hit the president's head - his head could be seen to move violently forward" - having to later apologize, saying it was "an honest error."?
This being only; after the Zapruder film became public.
Bear in mind: Dan Rather himself, had already seen the now famous, Zapruder film footage - and failed to mention the backward 'head' motion, made famous in the Oliver Stone's "JFK".
His omission seemed to confirm the single (Oswald) shooter theory.
Rather sets up the scene for the viewing public, through the CBS narrative, when saying: "The left turn made, just below - the window in which the assassin was waiting - about 35 yards past the very base of the building - just below the window - President Kennedy was sitting on the same side of the car as; the building from which the shot came."
In Rather's description, it is undoubtedly made very obvious, that the shots (three) came from the window behind (35 yards) the president motorcade.
“SOMETHING'S fishy here.
When there is a claim that "A" and "B" conspired, and "A" testifies that he did not conspire with "B", the climant should have the right to hear "B" confirm that testimony..”
jataga5000 on Nov 20, 2013 at 13:51:10
“I agree. You're on to something. Baseballs hands have been dirty during the whole steroids era. First in looking the other way, then by leaking the results of selected names after guaranteeing anonymity. While I have no sympathy for A Rod, this whole exercise has reeked of witch hunt politics so as to hold no culpability towards baseball. A Rods actions has just made him an easy target as the villain.”
“1. Who is the "owner" of the fence ? (I'm sure you'll say "Israel" and ignore "Egypt". You will also ignore that there is MORE than enough int'l aid coming through, but you WONT blame Hammas for not disseminating it.)
2. Ethnic cleansing ? Sure - there were pockets of it...but it was not the wholesale basis you (need to )claim it was.
3. Lebanon ? ok, who to blame it on ? The U.N. sent peacekeepers there for YEARS - and didnt stop a SINGLE rocket.
4. Ok, Think - let's hear YOUR peace proposal (since your heroes, Hammas, Hezbollah, PLO, PFLP, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Suadi Arabia, Libya) have all introduced ZERO solutions. So, let's see what YOU have to offer , or are you only an "armchair" quarterback. (and, me bet is that your proposal, IF you have one, doesnt even address Israel's security)”
“Uhh, Think ?
Israel pulled out of Gaza LONG ago.
If HAMMAS is "Running a huge open-air colonial concentration camp" - put that on Hammas, not Israel.
I see my points in another response to you was not allowed- I'll try again.
1. You know nothing about what evidence is needed to convict re "conspiracy":.
2. Egypt is not "cleaning up Israel's mess" - Egypt blockades Gaza for the SAME reason Israel does - TERROR.
3. Israel did not trat Gaza "badly" until , after returning Gaza after capturing it in '48 & '56, Gaza was sued to attack Israel yet again.”
ThinkCreeps on Nov 18, 2013 at 17:25:32
“The owner and builder of the fence has a responsibility for what happens inside the fence. Israel needs to help fix the Palestinian problem at some point. It might as well get on with it now.
Even the most ardent supporter of Israel has to surely accept that 1948's ethnic cleansing, and the 1982 war in Lebanon, weren't high points in the country's history.
Gaza as a refuge camp for displaced persons from over 60 years ago is a continuing problem that needs to be resolved.”
“4. WHY was Gaza taken from Egypt ? Because, in '67, it was used (again) to attack Israel.
SO - let me save you the trouble of posting your NEXT response -
You will say "of COURSE they attacked Israel - wouldnt YOU if YOUR home was taken ?" (meaning, of course, the U.N.'s original Green line " of the 2-state solution.
Maybe you're right on that one - the U.N. didnt have the right to take MIddle Eastern land for a Jewish State - but, they DID. Excuse Israel if they dont agree to go out of existence - but, more so, if Israel's EXISTENCE is the issue, then, it will STILL be an issue if they give back ALL of West Bank and ALL of Jerusalem (they'd already left Gaza_ this being the case, what does Israel gain by ANY concessions ?”
ThinkCreeps on Nov 18, 2013 at 16:03:25
“Running a huge open-air colonial concentration camp doesn't sit well with Israel's history. It needs fixing. Israel needs to be involved in that process.
Sure most of the Palestinians that remain in Gaza are charmless and talentless. All the smart ones left decades ago. But it's not the fault of the 15-year-olds there that lots of bad decisions were made decades ago.”
“1. Of COURSE Israel has a "role in restricting living conditions in Gaza".
Hammas takes the cream of the int'l aid, and leaves the rest to the rank & file. This is what the U.N. claims.
You've SEEN the tunnels built with concrete brought in for "housing".
Further, maybe it's NOT "Egypt's problem to clean up Israel's mess" - the Egyptian blockade (to which you seem to have NO problem), is not "cleaning up a mess" - it's to protect themselves in the future - JUST like Israel.
2. You know nothing of what it takes to convict. Your gusto to opine on this issue when you have NO facts to support, only belies your agenda.
3. Treated poorly ?
Whenever you hear that Israel has attacked Gaza, it is immediately followed by "this was in RETALIATION for..." You have NO problem with the precipitating factor - only the response. (Agenda)”
“What do you mean, Think ?
1. Trial is NOT always an option. (just like Gitmo). With witnesses scattered, or refusing to testify, etc.
Would you rather Israel just kill him with a drone like the U.S. does ?
2. As to Gazans (and, I think you mean Egyptians), first, Israel pulled out of Gaza in '05; second, if you are referring to the blockade, are you equally as critical of Egypt's Gaza blockade ? Or only Israel's ? You see, Egypt DOES blockade Gaza for the same reason Israel does - terrorism and government undermining. And, before you say that the many should not suffer for acts of the few, Hammas enjoys overwhelming support in Gaza.”
ThinkCreeps on Nov 18, 2013 at 14:51:58
“I see. So Israel has no role in restricting living conditions in Gaza? Perhaps its status could be more accurately described as a formerly occupied territory. It's hardly Egypt's problem to clean up Israel's mess.
For a conspiracy conviction, you don't need much in the way of witnesses.
If you were treated badly, you might take up arms against your oppressors. High levels of support for Hamas are hardly surprising.”
dlance1501 on Nov 18, 2013 at 13:45:31
“Not to mention that due process in Gaza is walking behind an alleged suspect (i.e., someone who supposedly conspires with Israel) and cutting his throat.”
Ari Ben-Yehudah on Nov 18, 2013 at 12:59:29
“I total agree, you one of the few here that sees the truth.”
That has already been done.
In fact, VERY few jurisdictions have laws against "child pornography"; instead, they are called "child exploitation". The reason for this is because it used to be that child pornography was simply "porn, using children". THEN, of course, it had a showdown with LEGAL porn, since what is or is not porn, TO THIS DAY, takes into account local community standards. That wouldnt WORK with children, so, by "exploitation" laws, things that would not be considered "porn" with adults, would still be punishable if the subject was children.(See the works of Sally Mann, Bill Henson, and especially Jock Sturges) - Amazingly, modern courts are split on the line between art and exploitation. When it comes to this topic, you simply cant draw a bright red line.”
“Again, it's not the craving that's the issue. Go to a library and you will find that there are literally hundreds of fetishes...some more bizarre than others. You cant make someone "not" turned on by things their brains makes them turn on about...any more than you can just "pray the gay away". The Mormons just recently understood this by no longer calling "having thoughts or desires of being with the same sex", as a sin; but they still call it a sin "ACTING" on those thoughts/desires.
(and, btw, "interesting" that you used the word "queer")”
“What sources would you like me to cite ? I can cite you to various state LAWS, which will then lead you to the annotations and case law which explain the various statutes relating to thefts. Do you want California ? Florida ? Federal ?
My nick on here is "Counselor39" - as in Counselor at Law.
If you give a 20.00 bill in payment for groceries, and the cashier gives you a 50.00 bill as change instead of a 5.00 bill - can you keep it ? The answer is, IF you saw the mistake at the time, you cant keep it - it's theft, but, if you discover it later, you can keep it. If you find 5,000.00 on the ground in the middle of a public field, with a business card in it - can you keep it ? NO - because you have a clue as to who the owner is. IN cases of "mistake" where you KNOW it's a mistake, but the other party doesnt, NO jurisdiction in the U.S. will allow you to keep it. "As is" has its limits. Even if you sell a house "As is" you must disclose KNOWN defects (in most jurisdictions).”
“IN actuality, Ellen, legally, had he kept the money, it would have been theft. According to law, he bought the desk, nothing else. When a mistake is made, title to the property does NOT pass to the new possessor.”
Ellen Anderson on Nov 12, 2013 at 11:40:44
“According to what law in which state? Buying off Craigslist or any other used place or garage sales, etc. is on an "as is" basis ... so I don't believe you're correct about this. He bought a desk which included drawers, hardware and anything else that was there with his purchase, as far as I know. But I could be wrong. Cite your source, please. Thanks!”
“ok. Fine. Then, you have NO problem with the kill ration upped to, say 100-1 ? OR, you have NO problem with Israel TARGETING civilians ?
I mean...using YOUR logic, whatever it takes, right ?
MAYBE...instead of the Pals trying to "get even", which they will never do, they might think about making PEACE ?
How many peace proposals has Hammas, Hezbollah, PLO, PFLP, Iran, Syria, etc made ? collectively ? individually ? not ONE.
Disparity in weaponry ? You might have had a point, had Hammas or Hezbollah targeted Israelis IN West Bank or Gaza...but, they're not - they target civilians IN Israel proper. So, Israel goes over the borer and retaliates.
Iy would be foolish to respond with just crude arms, in response to crude arms.
I dont know about you, but, if someone threatens my family with a knife, and I have BOTH a gun and a knife on me, I'm NOT dropping the gun "to be fair".”
“Ok. But, even if so, why not target Israel's military personnel and it's structures ? Why target civilians ?”
CapSen on Nov 3, 2013 at 12:33:07
It might just be that you understand that they would if they could. But a few ragged civilians against the fourth army of the world, equipped with state of the art arms and technology, what do you think yourself?
That's what guerilla is based on. The enormous skewed balance between two parties / forces.”
adam25x on Nov 1, 2013 at 17:26:01
“I don't speak for terrorist groups and I don't defend their terrorist tactics. I was merely showing that the original commenter was being disingenuous about Israel's role in the failure of peace talks.”
“Have you ever SEEN A Grand Jury Indictment ? I have - several, and , without exception, at the top, are the names of G.J. members. Thus, I disagree with your statement " there is enough here" to make a guess.”
counselor39 Counselor on Oct 23, 2013 at 17:58:37
“Yeah..."a good chance".”
hopper250 on Oct 23, 2013 at 17:47:15
“Yes, there is enough. The Judge has said he won't release the entirety of the 18 pages. There is a good change the names of the GJ members will not be released as the Judge has made this ruling.”