“My original reply to you apparently didn't make it through. So let me just say, every single thing you typed is factually incorrect (not disputed, not spin...just completely wrong). Please educate yourself on the region, on history, etc before posting.”
MTWAGNER on Dec 6, 2013 at 07:58:36
“This site does tend to not print some items, for one reason or another.
Thank you though for your interest.
I don't think any of my statements are wrong, but just to the point.
Perhaps inconvenient, but accurate.
If there was a peace, it would certainly be news to people in Israel that carry gas masks around like purses, and the people in Syria, Gaza, and Jordan have to cover up routinely.
You may project, from your vantage a peace, of some sort, but it is wishful thinking, and Israel just is hoping to play out the clock, while ignoring the elephant in the room.”
“At leas if you want to debate my points - debate my points rather than make up points to argue against.
No one denies there is a difficult history between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Israel does not have current diplomatic ties with Saudi Arabia. That doesn't mean they don't talk to each other or work with each other. Israel doesn't have diplomatic relations with many Arab countries and still finds ways to work with them. It's called realpolitik. We do it all the time...
Actually, I'm ending this now - you said "Israel occupies land claimed by Jordan, they don't have an open border,
and they don't have any security, economic, or cultural ties." First of all, Jordan ceded all claims to the West Bank to the Palestinians. Second, Jordan and Israel have three border crossings. Third, King Abdullah constantly refers to Israel and Jordan as allies.
Reading the rest of your comment, I must ask - are you genuinely this ignorant about the middle east or are you trolling? If you are trolling for reactions - well done, you got me! If not, please please please read a book. Watch the news. ”
“That's an incredibly irresponsible perspective to have. First of all, sure - they get paid for if they go to the emergency room. By tax payers and the hospital itself. Which is why ERs and trauma centers are being closed around the country. In the past decade, ERs have closed at a rate of 11% and one of the major reasons is cost due to uninsured people. Here's an interesting study that looks at this issue from a few years ago: http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1161864.”
whaas2 on Dec 6, 2013 at 23:37:31
“Under the ACA there are still huge numbers that do not have insurance. The ACA does not really solve the problem.”
“Actually - I'm 28 and am being completely honest. I was healthy until I wasn't. You're healthy until that accident, sure (and I certainly know a number of my peers who have been in car accidents) - do you know how expensive a simple broken bone can be when treated without insurance? But it's more than that. I have active friends who have had multiple bodily injuries that have required surgery. I have friends who developed health problems that need ongoing care. I have friends who had both expected and unexpected pregnancies - those pre and post natal costs certainly add up, not even including the hospital stay.
But let's go back to me. I was healthy until that day I discovered a lump on my neck. Multiple ultrasounds and tests later, it came back as possibly cancer and out came half my thyroid. Which would have cost thousands if I didn't have insurance because I listened to someone like you.”
PalaceOfWisdom on Dec 5, 2013 at 10:39:33
“So how do insurance companies make any money? If everyone gets in accidents and routinely incurs massive medical bills, how is the price people pay for insurance covering it?
You can't sell ten million policies and have eight million people make claims that exceed what they've paid for the insurance, and that's the picture you're trying to paint.
The truth is most young adults will not need more medical care than the price of an individual policy that actually provides decent coverage.”
“Not really. I hated having my individual insurance when I didn't work full time, but I had to have it. I used to pay $100 a month for insurance three years ago, which was the cheapest plan I could find and I still paid out of pocket for most things.
If I was in the same situation now, my insurance would be half the price and more would be covered. So not that raw a deal...”
“That's the problem - young adults do need it but they have folks like you telling them that they don't. And then they end up in the emergency room when something goes wrong.”
whaas2 on Dec 4, 2013 at 18:54:05
“Young adults should be able to make decissions for themselves. The mechanism is already in place to pay for emergency room visits if they cannot afford it when and if it happens. Since under the AC insurance companies cannot turn down someone for pre existing conditions it would be best to wait until they get sick and really need the insurance before they actually get it. People do not like the government making such decisions for them.”
PalaceOfWisdom on Dec 4, 2013 at 17:00:25
“I love how people try to act like half of young adults get in accidents and have to be rushed to the ER for surgery. Why can't people be honest? If you're 30 years old and healthy, you are being asked to pay for your parents' healthcare, not your own. The same people peddling universal profit-based insurance want to raise the age for Medicare... but only on those same young adults they're currently hoping to wring out.”
HappyHen on Dec 4, 2013 at 17:00:05
“And in the emergency room they have to stand in line behind the illegals. Oh pardon me, the term is now undocumented.”
1. Saudi - Israel cooperation is becoming more and more real every day due to Iran. It's not imaginary, considering how many people talk about it who are not "the Israel people." Iran and Hezbollah believe them to be working together. Speculation won't die down on this.
2. You're comparing their interaction and cooperation to that of Jordan and Egypt? Two countries who have actual diplomatic relations with Israel, which include economic, security, and even cultural ties with Israel?
3. History and fact disagree that Israel has been trying to "separate and conquer various Arab factions or countries." Heck, I'm pretty sure even Arabs think Israel has any interest outside Palestinian land.
4. We don't know who killed this guy (though Hezbollah has accused Saudi Arabia of the bombing of the Iranian embassy...so there's that). Hezbollah has a lot of issues within Lebanon at the moment - it's easier to blame Israel for everything, which they do.
Hezbollah's support for Iran and Assad has hurt their image in the Arab world...so why are you so quick to buy what they're selling when even most Arabs don't anymore?”
MTWAGNER on Dec 5, 2013 at 16:54:45
“Where to begin is a good term for it...but lets give it a try..
Saudi's have never been antagonist's of Israel. Where are the embassies locate in each country?
Saudi's don't say or try to influence Israel, because it is a useless exercise, and they know it.
Jordon and Egypt are different, in their relationships with Israel, so please don't cover them with one blanket.
Egypt has a cold peace, and very limited cultural and economic ties. What is the security arrangement they have?
Israel occupies land claimed by Jordan, they don't have an open border, and they don't have any security, economic, or cultural ties.
In fact Jordan is technically at war with Israel, as are several other countries in the region. This is repeated often by Israeli officials when negotiations get too close to accomplishing anything.
Separate and conquer.....Israel had not even met with Palestinians and keep wanting to reach "peace" with everyone but them, in order to "separate and conquer'.
Israel blames just anything on a Palestinian faction, and publishes an unnamed source that they have taken credit for just anything bad that happens.”
“So let me get this straight. You use a fake quote, calling it "that infamous saying" and then don't even blink when that infamous saying is pointed out as fake?! Seriously??
It is fake. It describes nothing because it's a fake plan that no one ever said.”
Rianna on Nov 25, 2013 at 07:41:46
“I never said it was a fake quote or not, chances are it may not be. However, if you are able to read my comment carefully, I merely pointed out that Israel's actions certainly describes what the so called" fake" quote says, in it's entirety. It certainly sounds like what Israeli leaders have been saying, or accused of saying.”
“Yea...you missed the part about smuggling in goods. The SOLE purpose of tunnels to Israel, according to Hamas and you know, common sense, is that they are for kidnapping soldiers and attacks against Israel.
I repeat - not for food.”
“Arabs have different values than ours. Truth is less importent for them.”
Rianna on Nov 22, 2013 at 16:51:57
“Fake or not, it certainly describes perfectly, what Israel has been doing, and will be doing, until (as the UN predicts) the Palestinian territories will be unlivable.
I suggest those who don't know, google "the shrinking map of Palestine" and you will be shocked.”
“I agree. Netanyahu has been absolutely awful and so many of my Israeli friends (and Zionist friends) are outraged towards Obama for not letting Bibi or Israel get away with it all. I always wonder if the president was a white Republican with no funny sounding names, if Israel would act like this without the population getting angry at jeopardizing the relationship between the two countries.”
“Where is Hamas in all this?! Seriously - this article barely touched on the responsibilities of the Gazan government. A government that is happy to spend millions of dollars on tunnels into Israel (note: not for smuggling goods in as those are the tunnels to Egypt, but for future attacks only) but won't pay for gas? Where is the mention that the lack of electricity is due to a conflict over excise taxation between Hamas and the PA?”
finn03 on Nov 22, 2013 at 08:24:20
“Yes, tunnels for smuggling food. How evil of them!”
“I agree. I'm all about public pressure. Write articles, go on news shows, hold public protests, marches, etc. Make as much noise as humanly possible. Because you're right, our justice system is corrupt.
However, does that corruption allow for a trial within the media or on the streets? Because when that happens, justice is often perverted as well. All these death threats, all the harassment of town members, all the harassment on social media - what good does it do? And what about those times that people with the same name or similar image to an accused whoever, they get threatened and harassed as well! ”
Strchld on Oct 24, 2013 at 04:54:38
“It is a catch 22 because of the various factors you have listed. However, if not for social media how many people would have known about this case? The news shows have an agenda and it is usually not to help highlight issues such as these. There are no easy answers. ”
“Where in my comment did I excuse his behavior? I've read the original article, I've heard his parents' ridiculous platitudes, I find it disgusting what happened to these girls and the Coleman family.
Does that mean I believe in the mob mentality that occurs when things like this happen?? Not at all. Reopen the case, have a transparent investigation and a fair, legal trial. That's how it is supposed to be. Not death threats over the internet.”
Strchld on Oct 21, 2013 at 21:00:59
“But therein lies the problem - investigation and fair legal trial. Our justice system is corrupted in a way that if you are connected to someone in power or have the funds available to twist facts to sway juries the justice you are talking about does not exist.
While I don't condone bullying I agree that public pressure goes along way in trying to change the current attitudes towards violence against women. If the legal system fails these women then public opinions need to help change that environment.”
lolly caust on Oct 21, 2013 at 19:16:44
“i'm not a fan of internet death threats.
yet i think he shouldn't be surprised to be on the receiving end of the type of bullying he orchestrated towards daisy
again, i don't really understand your concern for him.”
“I'm appalled at the online bullying that Daisy Coleman faced but I'm also extremely uncomfortable at the way people have reacted online towards Matthew Barnett as well.”
lolly caust on Oct 18, 2013 at 14:50:17
“in your opinion, is there a difference between bullying and public shaming?
if you read the original article in the kc star you'll remember that
"Within four hours, we had obtained a search warrant for the house and executed that,” White told The Star. “We had all of the suspects in custody and had audio/video confessions
they had confessions.
we aren't talking about a guy who gave a fourteen -year-old girl hard liquor and then had sex with her while his friend(s) watched and took video.
a guy who then dumped her on her front porch in below freezing weather.
these facts are not in dispute.
neither is her blood alcohol level, which was measured at .13 seven hours after her last drink. considering the rate at which alcohol is metabolized, we are talking about a bac of at least .20 (probably much higher)
do you realize how drunk that is? that's staggering disoriented drunk, not giggly this is fun drunk
“I was trying to think of a snarky way to point out your ridiculous hypocrisy, but it's just too sad. They estimate that millions went into building/maintaining this tunnel (the concrete, the electricity, the telephone lines, etc). If I was one of those Palestinians, I'd be pretty darn furious that my government spent money and resources on that instead of within my community.”