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Tax Cut Deal: White House, GOP Leaders Close To Agreement

Tax Cut Deal: White House, GOP Leaders Close To Agreement

Commented Dec 7, 2010 at 01:40:09 in Politics

“Similar to Red Auerbach's lighting of his cigar during Boston Celtics home games, essentially meaning that the fat lady had begun to sing, if I were the CEO of a major multinational, I'd be doing likewise this evening.

Obama may not win a second term in 2012, but he will now surely withstand any primary challenge. After all, if you are one of the 2 percenters, who would you rather have running as the Democratic candidate? They, along with the corporate news media, will surely overwhelm any challenge he might receive from the left. Whether Obama or his Republican opponent prevails in the Presidential election, Big Money will have a sock puppet in the White House.”
I-1098 Defeated In Washington: Tax Initiative Would Have Raised Bills For Wealthiest 1 Percent

I-1098 Defeated In Washington: Tax Initiative Would Have Raised Bills For Wealthiest 1 Percent

Commented Nov 9, 2010 at 00:37:24 in Politics

“Several acquaintances in Washington State had absolutely no idea that the measure would have reduced their property taxes (state share reduced by 20%). But they were able to recite the opposition's scare tactics verbatim, since those aired 24/7 for weeks. Political signs opposing I-1098 were everywhere, while those supporting it were non-existent.

The Dems had significant majorities in both houses in Washington State, along with a Democratic governor. They could have passed an income tax for all during the just-concluded session. So, why didn't they?

Anyone who believes that the legislature would pass an extension of the income tax to everyone must be smoking some powerful stuff. The legislature passed the most innocuous tax imaginable: extending the sales tax to most candy, bottled water and soda. And that tax just got deep-sixed.

Yet, newspaper editors in the state warned voters that there was no guarantee that enough signatures could be obtained to overturn an income for all on the ballot. Such an argument would make sense only to someone with a single digit IQ. Extending an income tax to everyone would permanently destroy the political career of every politician who voted for it.

I-1098 would have also reduced commercial property taxes and exempted 81% of businesses from the hated state B&O tax.

http://washingtonpolicywatch.org/2010/07/29/initiative-1098-if-you-were-wealthy-how-would-washingtons-income-tax-compare-to-other-states/

http://www.seattlepi.com/opinion/426062_I-1098.html
Phillips Arnold Paul, Insane Killer, Escapes On Field Trip To County Fair

Phillips Arnold Paul, Insane Killer, Escapes On Field Trip To County Fair

Commented Sep 19, 2009 at 11:10:05 in Home

“This would most likely be one of two older, generally out of favor medications (more severe side effects): haloperidol (Haldol) or fluphenazine (Prolixin), both administered via intramuscular (IM) injection. Substances are added to slow the absorption of the medication into the bloodstream, creating a time release effect.

A newer medication, risperidone, is now available in injectable form (Consta). It is rarely used in state hospital settings, I believe, due to the significant costs.

In most cases, these medications are administered to a patient who has a history of medication non-compliance, although occasional exceptions exist.

Also if the client wants to reassure a reluctant judge that they will be safe in the community, they may agree to go on injectable medications to ease concerns that he/she might eventually stop taking their medications. If a client stops taking their oral medications (which are oftentimes taken in the privacy of their home), no one will know until the client start showing clear signs of psychiatric deterioration (which may be too late to prevent a serious reoffense).

If the patient who has been released to the community does not show up at their local mental health clinic for their scheduled IM injection, it is immediately known. Under such a circumstance, this would represent a clear violation of the conditions under which the client has been released to the community, and they can immediately be returned to their former locked psychiatric setting while staff sort out the details.”
Phillips Arnold Paul, Insane Killer, Escapes On Field Trip To County Fair

Phillips Arnold Paul, Insane Killer, Escapes On Field Trip To County Fair

Commented Sep 19, 2009 at 02:58:32 in Home

“The voters of Washington State, like those elsewhere, continually demand more of their favored services, in addition to lower taxes.

The legislature, not wanting to raise taxes, underfunds community health and state hospitals.

The only way that room can be created to accomodate the continuous influx of new court-committed admissions is to discharge a like number of patients to the community. The pressure on hospital officials to remain within census and within budget is crushing.

As imperfect as this tool might be, observing the behavior of patients on community outings is perhaps one of the best, as limited as it is, means of making a better educated guess about a patient's likelihood of success in the community. As tsurely as the daylight follows nighttime, unfortunate events such as the escape from the fair will occur occasionally.

Yes, it would be very difficult for each staff member to supervise three patients in a setting such as a fair. But remember that when these patients move to the community most will essentially be supervising themselves.

While state officials are slashng funding ffor state hospitals (where layoffs have recently begun, with more to follow, and with no end in sight), they are tasked with discharging patients AND making sure that nothing goes wrong.

Here is what voters would most like to hear from state workers:

"We have been doing more and more with less and less for so long that we will eventually be able to do everything with nothing."”

mariah793 on Sep 19, 2009 at 06:45:47

“State workers in most states are put into terrible positions and, often, their managers are extremely incompetent and only look 'inside the box of their bureaucratic world'. They have lost the ability to make common sense decisions and they tend to cover-up mistakes.

The bottom line here is not the voters or the legislature. It is that some middle-level manager or mental health "professional" made a really stupid move. The fact that they waited 2 hours to notify law enforcement shows that level of bad leadership, bad decision-making, and that they are "unfit to serve" on the public payroll.

A state worker who works for one of these idiots needs just plain to quit. No matter the economic consequence. The potential for being cupable in something this stupid is just to great for good people to live with.”

patrickhenrypress on Sep 19, 2009 at 04:34:07

“An excellent post! Just wait until all of the states are doing the same. California is completely broke, the prisons are overcrowded, and judges want 40.000 of them released. Normally, we imagine them to be non-violent offenders who'd be released first, but that's not necessarily the criteria. Well written and to the point!”

seattle music on Sep 19, 2009 at 04:26:15

“I blame Tim the I-Man and his merry band of libertarians.

Their ilk are destroying our state, one purchased referendum at a time.”
Hoyer maintains support for public option

Hoyer maintains support for public option

Commented Sep 2, 2009 at 00:58:39 in Politics

“Does anyone else see the inconsistency in the following excerpt from the above article?


"The first questioner who challenged Hoyer directly, April Burke of Mechanicsville, Md., said her son and daughter in law both had lost their jobs and health insurance but were covered by the state.

"So why should I want to have the government get into my business?" she asked Hoyer.

The congressman said Burke's family would benefit from the health care overhaul being proposed. But she shouted back: "We want government out of our business now."


So her son and daughter in law had lost their jobs and healht insurance but were covered by the state? Unless "the state" doesn't qualify as a form of government, one can only surmise that she wants the state to stop providing health care coverage to her son and daughter in law.

Either she is Faux Noose stupid or embodies the reincarnation of Mommie Dearest.”
Bill Maher Takes On Obama:

Bill Maher Takes On Obama: "This Isn't What I Voted For" (VIDEO)

Commented Jun 14, 2009 at 21:56:22 in Comedy

“Not sure if anyone else has run into this problem, but the video stalled at about the 2:11 mark, just after Maher's comments about health care. By going to youtube directly I was able to view the entire monologue. On viewing the entire segment, I was then able to note that the video had stalled JUST BEFORE the derogatory remark about the banks. So, is this a coincidence or...?

Has anyone else run across this problem? If enough other people have had the same experience, then perhaps my situation was something other than mere happenstance.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 17:02:31 in Healthy Living

“Yes, it is time to move on to other projects...

The last statement should have read:

"Since there is more to my life than sparring with others on this thread, I must go for now, so if you receive no further responses, that does not mean that I agree with you."

Given the makeup of the rest of those posting on this site, you should enjoy 100% agreement from everyone else who remains.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 17:00:24 in Healthy Living

“Since there is no to my life than sparring with others on this thread, I must go for now, so if you receive no further responses, that does not mean that I agree with you.”

justmeinAz on Jun 13, 2009 at 18:15:05

“I wasn't after you. I was providing truth to your misinformation so that other readers knew to question this articles validity. I'm quite content to have you running around thinking you're a herbivore.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 16:56:38 in Healthy Living

“And, true to form, I had three questions for you in my last posting...and you had no answers.”

justmeinAz on Jun 13, 2009 at 18:04:09

“My earlier comments haven't gone anywhere. The fact that I've addressed your points adequately is plain for everyone to see. It's also now a matter of public record that you use so many question marks one wonders if the period key is missing from your keyboard, so I think I can be forgiven for being now tired of this exchange.
You offer no buttressing of the obvious faults in your posts, but expect everyone else to re-defend ourselves to the nth degree. This isn't a classroom. I've clearly made my point, and your phantom insinuations do nothing to disprove it. Over and out.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 16:48:13 in Healthy Living

“Mills' article states that the pH "WITH FOOD IN THE STOMACH" is between 4 and 5. Are you saying that if gastric acid with a lower pH level mixes with food in the stomach that the overall pH level does NOT become diluted? Please explain.”

justmeinAz on Jun 13, 2009 at 18:13:38

“You're missing the forest for the trees here. Herbivores don't produce hydrochloric acid in their stomach at all, so nit-picking at the exact pH, (which for the record this article gets wrong,) is besides the point all together. Only carnivores and omnivores need an acidic environment in the stomach at all.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 16:44:29 in Healthy Living

“Are you saying that the author of this article used poor judgment in stating the following in their link to Masterjohn's article -- "But I also found this critical review which makes some excellent points and accuses the authors of misrepresenting the findings of the study."”

justmeinAz on Jun 13, 2009 at 17:09:46

“Wow, you really don't want to talk about the holes that article poked in your pet theory, do you? I guess I don't blame you. Go ahead, just keep posting more questions.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 16:32:40 in Healthy Living

“If you bothered to read Dr. Mills' article, which you obviously haven't, you would know that he listed each of the four categories separately. I combined the humans/herbivores where there were similarities and the carnivores and omnivores, again, where there were similarities.

Please don't pass yourself off as a valid critic of Dr. Mills' work without reading it yourself.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 16:28:18 in Healthy Living

“People can do many things that are not healthy, but at the cost of lowering their life expectancy.

About the Inuit diet, you stated, "Guess what? No heart disease. Go ask them their experiences." This statement would imply that consuming their diet produces a positive result. You didn't bother to mention that Inuit don't live as long as other Canadians. And, with regard to their experiences, dying (on the average) in the early sixties is probably not an outcome to which most people would gladly aspire.

It seems that you conveniently neglect to qualify your statements.

But, by all means, continue to attack others who don't believe as you do. This would be far more pleasant for you than to embark on a critical examination of your own contentions.”

justmeinAz on Jun 13, 2009 at 17:06:20

“Show me another Canadian who lives as far north as the Inuit, and utilizes such low technology to survive, and then we have a comparison group. I know of none.
Completely besides the point anyway. You started by arguing that we're herbivores who don't naturally eat meat, and now you've watered down your position all the way to merely suggesting that eating an all meat diet will lessen your life expectancy compared to one that contains vegetables as well. Well I'm onboard with that statement, so it looks like you've finally come around to my point. Humans are obviously capable of surviving on meat, but we need vegetables and fruit too for optimal health. I'm glad we finally agree.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 16:04:19 in Healthy Living

“Sorry for the duplicate comment. I ddn't think the first one "took."”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 15:45:52 in Healthy Living

“Are you saying that there aren't MDs who are also trained in and/or conduct research?

Are you suggesting that we should we view the work of those who claim to be omnivores who advocate a meat and vegetable-based diet with similar suspicion?

And your point about Shubin's book is what?”

justmeinAz on Jun 13, 2009 at 16:26:29

“Yes, I don't blame you for dodging my points again and just throwing out more questions. If I was trying to defend your position, I'd be at my wits end, too.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 15:37:30 in Healthy Living

“Curiously, the critical review of "The China Study" was completed by Chris Masterjohn (aka "Chris"), a 27-year-old history major and chapter leader for Weston A. Price Foundation Inc. in Massachusetts. He promotes consuming a high cholesterol high fat diet as necessary for optimal health.
In condemning the work of Michael Brown and Joseph Goldstein, Nobel Prize winners in 1985, Masterjohn states, in part, "...it is actually polyunsaturated fats, not saturated fats or cholesterol, that contribute to heart disease, cancer, liver damage, and aging" and a graphic on the page states, "An egg yolk a day keeps the doctor away." To see this for yourself, please go to: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/index.html

Masterjohn has made the following disclaimer with regard to his credentials: "...Although I am trained in lab science techniques and journal article writing at the undergraduate level and plan to pursue a PhD in Molecular and Cellular Biology, I do not currently possess a graduate degree or a medical degree..."

I would encourage you, as well as anyone else who is interested, to review the following article by T. Colin Campbell, in which he responds to content of your comment, which again refers to work by Mr. Masterjohn. To view his response, go to: http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/campbell_china_response.htm

For more info regarding Weston Price, please refer to my other posts on the topic in this thread.”

justmeinAz on Jun 13, 2009 at 16:25:31

“No, the review I linked to was not. You had to click through to another article to get to MasterJohn, and the author of the article I was REALLY referencing explains why he chose from that one in the comments. The problems with the study I was referencing dont come from Masterjohn, they come from the article I linked to, so now you're deliberately misleading people by debunking a source that I wasn't even referencing.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 15:27:47 in Healthy Living

“You can't possibly believe that vegetarians or vegans are limited to brussel sprouts and the like alone. or do you?

Contrary to what most others believe, there are some very appealing vegan choices that do not fit the popular conception of vegetarian food.

One of the fortunate developments of the present day is the creation of many additional flavorful options for those who choose not to consume animal products.”

MrMike513 on Jun 13, 2009 at 22:25:46

“as a chef, I can tell you that the term "appealing vegan choices" is an oxymoron.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 15:14:33 in Healthy Living

“Since it was your idea to "have someone else do the same thing but allow him or her to eat any animals that can be caught", well, how about you?”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 15:12:06 in Healthy Living

“Since it was your idea to have "someone else do the same thing but allow him or her to eat any animals that can be caught", how about you?”

Roguer on Jun 13, 2009 at 17:45:23

“In a previous post you said, "I don't believe there are any vegan or vegetarian churches around, either. Do you know of one?

Look up Seventh Day Adventist. They have many fun rules like, no meat, no caffeine, no dancing, no drinking, no jewelry, no make up, Saturday is the Sabbath (thus the name), etc.. They even have their own college, Andrews University in Berrien Springs, Mich.

Also look up Ellen G. White. Young girl who is basically a patron saint for the religion. Was very sick as a child and while on morph,ine saw vision of the Vir.gin Mary who told her how the church should be run.

The Branch Davidians were an splinter group of Seventh Day Adventist.”

Sepulchre on Jun 13, 2009 at 15:54:48

“I don't think this person is denying we are omnivores, so he will likely be very successfull, eating meat and vegetable matter.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 14:51:16 in Healthy Living

“The term "vegan" did not come into being until 1944, and to this today, the two terms are oftentimes used interchangeably. In fact, I don't believe that the term came into wide usage until relatively recently.

Einstein wrote in his diary on the day that he became vegetarian, "So I am living without fats, without meat, without fish, but am feeling quite well this way. It always seems to me that man was not born to be a carnivore.” He died in 1955. Perhaps there were non-fat eggs and dairy in his day?

Tolstoy's quote includes, "...abstinence is from animal food." It seems that animal food would exclude dairy and eggs.

Gandi's quote includes, "...a pure vegetable diet." A pure vegetable diet would seemingly exclude dairy and eggs.

When Plato spoke of, "...the trees and the plants and the seeds", it doesn't seem that he intended to include dairy and eggs.

When Thoreau stated, "...abstain from animal food", it seems that animal food would include dairy and eggs.

I don't know that the others consumed dairy or egg, do you?”

Vickster on Jun 14, 2009 at 01:34:54

“"We cannot but pity the boy who has never fired a gun. He is no more humane, while his education has been sadly neglected." Henry David Thoreau.

Also, Einstein didn't become a vegetarian until the last year of his life, while Benjamin Franklin wrote essays poking fun at his brief fling with the vegetarian lifestyle.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 14:24:27 in Healthy Living

“I don't believe there are any vegan or vegetarian churches around, either. Do you know of one?”

Roguer on Jun 13, 2009 at 17:38:39

“Seventh Day Adventist”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 14:22:17 in Healthy Living

“This writer is NOT a Weston Price disciple.

That said, this should tell you a little more about battery-produced eggs...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_cage

And for more info:
http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/egg-battery.html
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/latestnews/view/66146/Sainsbury-s-halts-battery-egg-sales/
http://www.organicguide.com/food-drink/dairy-eggs/organic-eggs-sunny-side-up/

And for an interesting Powerpoint Presentation, produced by Wesleyan University, check this out, and if you don't like you current job, take a look at slide #9:
www.wesleyan.edu/wsa/warn/eon/campaign/BatteryEggsWSA.ppt

PrehensileOne on Jun 13, 2009 at 14:37:16

“Thank you, I was afraid 'battery' had something to do with electricity. I know most of the chickens that supply my eggs, and I intend to tell them how lucky they are.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 14:00:24 in Healthy Living

“Here are a few scientists for you...

http://www.godsdirectcontact.org/eng/news/160/vg5.htm

And here's another list, which includes a few philosophers, who are likely to be familiar with ethics...

http://www.gentleworld.org/philosophers.html

PrehensileOne on Jun 13, 2009 at 14:09:55

“All of whom were vegetarians, not vegans. The post was specific to vegans.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 13:23:35 in Healthy Living

“First of all, you don't know that sculptnpaint does this, and even if he did, that raises an inevitable question. Are you saying that you don't do likewise with your meat-eating friends, and therefore, can claim moral superiority?”

PrehensileOne on Jun 13, 2009 at 14:58:41

“I was raised Unitarian---several vegetarians, no moral superiority. I’ve had enough for one day. The rain has ended so I’m going to engage in other unnecessary activities, and perhaps consume something luxuriously unneeded. Thanks for the memories.”

PrehensileOne on Jun 13, 2009 at 13:41:46

“Good morning. You neglect the obvious---I'm truly curious. Hence the question marks. I’m not aware of a meat-eating church, but I’m pretty sure I wouldn't join.”
Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Shattering The Meat Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians

Commented Jun 13, 2009 at 12:46:43 in Healthy Living

“And for the rest of the story...

Avoid canned, sprayed, waxed, bioengineered or irradiated fruits and vegetables.
Avoid artificial food additives, especially MSG, hydrolyzed vegetable protein and aspartame, which are neurotoxins. Most soups, sauce and broth mixes and commercial condiments contain MSG, even if not so labeled.
Avoid caffeine-containing beverages such as coffee, tea and soft drinks. Avoid chocolate.
Avoid aluminum-containing foods such as commercial salt, baking powder and antacids. Do not use aluminum cookware or aluminum-containing deodorants.
Do not drink fluoridated water.
Avoid synthetic vitamins and foods containing them.
Do not drink distilled liquors.
Do not use a microwave oven.

http://www.westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/dietdangers.html

Vickster on Jun 14, 2009 at 01:08:04

“So what's the problem?

Not that I'm a purist, but I make it a habit to eat very little processed, irradiated, canned, sprayed, waxed or synthetic food. Of course, I also raise a fair amount of my own food, including milk and meat. (I make a raw milk goat cheese to die for.)”

PrehensileOne on Jun 13, 2009 at 14:04:44

“I know I’m going to regret this question, but what is a 'battery-produced egg' and how does it affect my health?”

brainpower on Jun 13, 2009 at 13:11:57

“Wouldn't it have been shorter for them to provide a list of what you COULD eat? ;)”
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