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Doug Hoffman Concedes New York Race, Again

Doug Hoffman Concedes New York Race, Again

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 04:25:28 in New York

“Scozzafava would have won. So from all us Democrats, thanks Sarah Palin and your very politically inept friend. Keep it up. We need more progressive Democrats in Congress.”
Doug Hoffman Concedes New York Race, Again

Doug Hoffman Concedes New York Race, Again

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 04:24:28 in New York

“We keep the subterranean riches. Russia only gets the topsoil. And Palin.”
Lou Dobbs Reaches Out To Latinos

Lou Dobbs Reaches Out To Latinos

Commented Nov 25, 2009 at 04:20:13 in Politics

“In the movie "Mars Attacks," there is a scene in which the evil Martians are going through a town with a voice translator that is proclaiming, "Do not run away, we are your friends," or words to that effect, while they kill every human or animal that comes in contact. I had the same sensation upon hearing Lou Dobbs was reaching out to Hispanics so he can build a political base. Of course, I am exercising a form of crass hyperbole, because the Martians are fiction and Lou Dobbs is real and has done untold damage to racial and ethnic relations in this country by inciting so-called 'nativists" (how are they nativists if they are third nation immigrant Americans*?).

Any Hispanic who falls for him must be plain stupid or a Republican, which is really the same thing. It's like being a capitalist who supports Stalin or an African American who wants to be in the Ku Klux Klan. It's just plain stupid.

*Native Americans=the first nation immigrants; Hispanics (of all races)=the second nation immigrants; every other foreigner who came afterwards=third nation immigrants.”
Doug Hoffman Concedes New York Race, Again

Doug Hoffman Concedes New York Race, Again

Commented Nov 24, 2009 at 19:57:05 in New York

“Personally, I hope that the Palinists do for all the congressional districts in 2010 what they did in this congressional district: split the Republican­-Right-Win­g vote and get a progressive Democrat elected. That way we can have real reform in Washington: bankruptcy reform with cramdown, banks under strict supervision, real health care reform, etc.”

KriTiKiT replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 20:02:13

“get this she endorsed rick perry too! secession”

billhodges replied on Nov 24, 2009 at 20:02:08

“Considering the circumstances of this race and how it unfolded I would agree with you. I hope Palin and the others that supported Hoffman do as much as they did for him. :-))”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 14:25:36 in Politics

“Cite the Supreme Court case that makes a statement about "Imposing YOUR religious beliefs on those of us who do not believe that abortion is a sin IS UNCONSTITU­TIONAL." You won't be able to. The Supreme Court doesn't make statements about sin. Sin is in the venue of religions, not politics or law. An offense against God and the rights of humans is a sin; a violation against the State or and individual is a crime. Do you understand the difference?”

dcrinaz replied on Nov 16, 2009 at 23:46:33

“The Supreme Court has also held that African-Americans were not people of citizens of the United States and could never be considered citizens of the United States. That was a patently absurd notion because Blacks are obviously and naturally human like anyone else, were always human and will always be human; the Supreme Court invented a definition that denied the natural humanity of African Americans. The Supreme Court f-ed up then as it has f-ed up on the issue of unborn human beings.

To go directly to the point: if a fetus is not human, then you have to make the absurd claim that it is not human, i.e. inhuman. Now tell me how a being with a human genetic code from the very instance of its its inception can be not human? What is the fetus if it is not a human fetus? An orangutan fetus? A fish fetus? Of course not. It is human.

I could make the case that idiots are not really human because they don't make full use of their faculty of reason; but would that really make you not human?”

oldguru replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 17:11:14

“The Supreme court has upheld the separation of Church and state several times. Their rulings have nothing to do with sin. It has to do with the guarantees of freedom of religion in the Constitution ,which also guarantees freedom FROM religion. However, an offense against the rights of HUMANS is not just a sin, but an offense against the Constitution. Fetuses are not humans yet. That is why they are called Fetuses.”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 00:15:19 in Politics

“Well, you are wrong. And just as opinionated as the worst right-wing teabagger. You're just like them, except you have another type of hair up your derriere. Most Catholics voted for Obama. Why? Because OFFICIAL church policy tells Catholics to weigh all considerations, not just one. Look what happens when people believe and speak out of ignorance. They sound like fascists.”

jackbutler5555 replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 10:19:19

“Let's see. I'm not just wrong. I'm "opinionated as the worst right-wing teabagger, have "hair up (my) derriere," and I'm a fascist."

I guess I should be grateful that decent folks like you are willing to help me overcome my tendency to "believe and speak out of ignorance.­"

Would you help me some more? What specifically is wrong with my statement, which I will repeat here:

"I think it's fair to say that all of the single-issue, pro-life Catholics have already come to the conclusion which party is in agreement with them and have been voting Republican­."

By the way, having been on such forums a while, I'm quite familiar with ad hominems, but I must say this is the first time I have been accused of having hair up my ass.”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 00:12:29 in Politics

“Boy, the hate you see must be a reflection of yourself. With Catholics like you, no wonder the Church has had problems.”

CydMiller replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 18:48:20

“I'm no longer a Catholic. If we can't be honest about our religious institutions, they will never change. We need religions that will support everyone, not just white, heterosexual males.”

bluerthanblue15 replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 10:35:31

“"Boy, the hate you see must be a reflection of yourself. With Catholics like you, no wonder the Church has had problems."

The 'HATE' ????

How about the facts the poster has referred to? I'd like to see you accurately refute them.
That historical hatred and crimes against God and humanity are the demise of Catholicism, pure and simple.”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 00:11:14 in Politics

“What if those actions are not beneficial or in the best interest of society? Shouldn't the law prohibit those?”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 00:10:23 in Politics

“Anotherangle is right, Iswideopen. Your logic is faulty.”

bluerthanblue15 replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 10:32:27

“"Anotherangle is right, Iswideopen. Your logic is faulty."

The premise is faulty.”

jackbutler5555 replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 08:02:16

“"What if those actions are not beneficial or in the best interest of society? Shouldn't the law prohibit those?"

I'm not sure how the best interests of society differs from harm to others.”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 13, 2009 at 00:08:59 in Politics

“Have you understood the Constitution? And by the way, it's in the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, not in the original. Do you understand that the government cannot force a religion to do its bidding? And aren't your trying to impose your particular beliefs on the country by demanding gay marriage, demanding abortion, and demanding things that other Americans see as unacceptable? That's what Democracy is about. Catholics have the same right as anyone else to participate in the body politic. Grow up. That's what America is about. By the way, I'm sure the Inspector General will act immediately on your letter. By putting it in the circulating file.”

oldguru replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 11:01:15

“I understand the Constituti­on...All of it INCLUDING the Amendments (which are PART of the Constitution) So does the Supreme Court. Imposing YOUR religious beliefs on those of us who do not believe that abortion is a sin IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Believe what you want. Practice your religion. Shut the eff up about it.”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 19:02:13 in Politics

“So tell me how the Catholic Church as messed up royally. Let's see if they are any different from any human group.”

oldguru replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 20:01:10

“Are you kidding? Let's start with the crusades and the dark ages when they tried to stamp out "infidels" and pretty much did stomp out literature and recorded history. More recently, let's talk about the Vatican's "overlooking" the Hitler regimes genocide, then there is the imprisoning of women in Ireland, the looting of the riches of South America while allowing the population to starve, and then there are the years and years of covering up their knowledge of their priests molesting children. If you are a Catholic, do you not know the history of your own Church?”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 19:01:21 in Politics

“Does that make you also hate Protestant churches that have had the same problems, or the Boy Scouts of America, that have had the same problems, or any public and private schools that protected and hid child rapists? You must hate a lot of things if you do.”

bluerthanblue15 replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 10:37:21

“"Does that make you also hate Protestant churches that have had the same problems, or the Boy Scouts of America, that have had the same problems, or any public and private schools that protected and hid child rapists? You must hate a lot of things if you do."

But they're in jail. Those in the church either got promotions or are now living in the lap of luxury at the Vatican.”

nwfurn replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 01:12:09

“So you support and love child rapists?”

oldguru replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 19:53:30

“Don't have to hate them. Just stand up to their stupidity.”
Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Catholic Church Threatens To Stop Feeding Homeless Over Gay Marriage

Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 18:59:33 in Politics

“Part 1 of 1

I find this Catholic-bashing, which is just a specialized form of Christian-bashing, to be quite indicative of the fact that they are anything but liberals, whom most would characterize as being tolerant, open-minded, respectful of the rights of others and to be non-judgmental. Perhaps we need to define a leftist as being different from a liberal because these anti-Christian leftists in particular seem more like the right-wingers in their narrow-minded bigotry, intolerance, lack of logic and bias. Perhaps they only thing that separates a right-winger from a leftist bigot is what they chose to believe, not how they believe or wish to condemn everyone who does not agree with them. So an extreme leftist may chose to be an atheist, and a right-winger may chose to be a racist, but the way they came to their beliefs, they way they want to impose their beliefs show the same ignorance, intolerance and judgmentalism.”

nwfurn replied on Nov 13, 2009 at 01:07:48

“So tell us what you think about the years of destructive sexual abuse of children at the hands of priests, while the powers that be, knew and did nothing. Still do nothing. Was it just God Love or what. How anyone can support this criminal enterprise and keep a straight face is beyond me. How's that for some tolerance?”

oldguru replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 19:51:13

“Have you ever read the Constitution? The part that says that the state shall not establish any religion, nor prevent anyone from practicing their beliefs? The Roman Catholic Church is seeking to IMPOSE its religious beliefs on everyone in this country. It is heavy handed, and as you can see from the posts on this thread, many people are very offended by the inteference in secular matters by the church. Believe what you want, but do not insist that I believe it or that I abide by your idea of morality. If the church continues this kind of behavior, they are just shooting themselves in the foot. I have written today to the Inspector General fo Tax Administration asking why the church still enjoys its tax exemption as a religious organization, when they are clearly a political one.

There is no bashing of the Catholic Church that is not soundly deserved.”

jackbutler5555 replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 19:40:28

“Does not the Ctholic Church wish to impose its beliefs on others, by going well beyond teaching its doctrines. The Church would have those doctrines embodied in law, would they not? In that sense, could the Catholics also be guilty of intolerance, etc?”

AnotherAngle replied on Nov 12, 2009 at 19:10:14

“Would you say that Jesus Christ is ignorant, intolerant and judgmental because he has created a heaven AND a hell?”
Olbermann: Send Dobbs To Telemundo

Olbermann: Send Dobbs To Telemundo

Commented Nov 12, 2009 at 18:21:08 in Media

“Why? He is right. Do people who are right annoy you? What did he say about Dobbs that could annoy you?”
Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein:

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein: "I'm Doing God's Work."

Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 23:55:18 in Business

“You'd try to punch me out. Then after I defended myself, I'd have you arrested.

So, poor baby, is physical violence the method of debate you learned from your readings and "everything's connected, tapestry of life" observations? Or does that come from your "primal instincts?" You're not making much of a case for yourself. Keep talking, keep answering, instead of reflecting, and keep looking worse than you do now.

So violence is the way you handle things you don't agree with?”
Conservative Group: Time To Purge Muslims From Military (VIDEO)

Conservative Group: Time To Purge Muslims From Military (VIDEO)

Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 23:45:44 in Politics

“Before we purge any Muslims from the military, I think we should purge white, right-wing, gung-ho bigots from the military because they can turn into people like Timothy McVeigh or join the Ku Klux Klan or become a Republican politician. There's not much worse for our country than those folks.”

CO2feedsPlants replied on Nov 10, 2009 at 01:11:02

“mcveogh was a dimowit”
Michael Steele: Some White Republicans Are 'Scared Of Me'

Michael Steele: Some White Republicans Are 'Scared Of Me'

Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 23:42:54 in Politics

“What he is not telling you is these are the same white Republicans who are afraid any time any African American drives in their neighborhood.

The rest of the white Republicans see him and say, "waiter, will you bring me a mint julep, please?"”
Jesus, Karaoke, And Serial Killers: The Funniest Venn Diagrams The Web Has To Offer

Jesus, Karaoke, And Serial Killers: The Funniest Venn Diagrams The Web Has To Offer

Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 13:51:42 in Comedy

“Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Look at how you are stereotyping me. You assume a lot about me without even trying to know what I believe, which only shows me that you are a bigot, prejudiced person just like the good ol' Obama haters out there!

Now, I will be glad to explain lots of things to you, but if you don't have the capacity or openmindeness to understand, it would be like talking to the dog--except the dog would be tolerant and loving and not prejudiced and hate-filled like you. So where would you like to start?”
Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein:

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein: "I'm Doing God's Work."

Commented Nov 09, 2009 at 13:44:11 in Business

“Poor baby. He makes assertions he cannot defend, and absurd ones at that, and he gets upset because someone points out they are absurd and unfounded. You state that there is no credible evidence that there is a God. I suggest you study Metaphyics, you call Metaphysics nonsense. So it is alright for you to put down the learning of others, and the learning of ages, and yet we are supposed to be sensitive to you and tolerant of you and let you put down other--with no reason, by the way--but we cannot point out that there is no credible proof of your reality or that your beliefs are nonsense. What a crybaby. By the way, your instincts can be deceived, your senses can be one-sided. So that is not a reliable source of information. Have you ever considered that? Have you ever considered your "experience" is limited and not enough?”
Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein:

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein: "I'm Doing God's Work."

Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 19:05:20 in Business

“His god is Mammon and a false god at that. He will have his true reward and none of us should want or seek what will happen to him if he continues to love money.”
Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein:

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein: "I'm Doing God's Work."

Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 19:04:13 in Business

“Only if it's good beer made with the purest water, barley malt hops and yeast AND NOTHING MORE! And made by a beer artisan, not a technician. If your beer is such and you are such an artisan, you do have God's blessing! You can taste it in the beer itself!”
Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein:

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein: "I'm Doing God's Work."

Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 19:02:27 in Business

“Then why, oh thoughtless one, does the scientific community spend so much money, time and effort on trying to find out what is ultimately real? Why did they deny for so many years the Big Bang? Philosophy, dear ignor@mu& is the beginning and framework of all human knowledge. Ever wonder why the highest academic degree is "doctor of philosophy"? Because all learning, all knowledge has as it beginning and framework in philosophy, the first and most important area of philosophy being Metaphysics, dealing with the question of what is real. So you might opine otherwise, but such an opinion merely shows your ignorance.”

dcrinaz replied on Nov 09, 2009 at 23:55:18

“You'd try to punch me out. Then after I defended myself, I'd have you arrested.

So, poor baby, is physical violence the method of debate you learned from your readings and "everything's connected, tapestry of life" observations? Or does that come from your "primal instincts?" You're not making much of a case for yourself. Keep talking, keep answering, instead of reflecting, and keep looking worse than you do now.

So violence is the way you handle things you don't agree with?”

dogman44 replied on Nov 09, 2009 at 17:50:59

“Why are you so insulting. If you talked to me to my face
like that I would punch you out. Learn some respect
you metaphysical clown.”

dcrinaz replied on Nov 09, 2009 at 13:44:11

“Poor baby. He makes assertions he cannot defend, and absurd ones at that, and he gets upset because someone points out they are absurd and unfounded. You state that there is no credible evidence that there is a God. I suggest you study Metaphyics, you call Metaphysics nonsense. So it is alright for you to put down the learning of others, and the learning of ages, and yet we are supposed to be sensitive to you and tolerant of you and let you put down other--with no reason, by the way--but we cannot point out that there is no credible proof of your reality or that your beliefs are nonsense. What a crybaby. By the way, your instincts can be deceived, your senses can be one-sided. So that is not a reliable source of information. Have you ever considered that? Have you ever considered your "experience" is limited and not enough?”

dogman44 replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 20:11:03

“Can we have dialog without being insulting to each other?
I consider myself a lay philosopher. Lot of life experience,
got no degrees but I'm well read. Why do you attack me,
because I question the existence of a "god"? I believe
there are forces in nature that are beyond my ability
to comprehend. I also believe that all living things are
connected. You know, the whole tapestry of life thing.
I just accept these things exist because some primal
instinct tells me they do. I also see it in my daily life.”
Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein:

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein: "I'm Doing God's Work."

Commented Nov 08, 2009 at 01:41:49 in Business

“Go study Metaphysics--not that New Age nonsense, but real Metaphysics. Then you won't ask such questions.”

dogman44 replied on Nov 08, 2009 at 02:18:15

“Metaphysics is not science, it is nonsense.”
Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein:

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein: "I'm Doing God's Work."

Commented Nov 07, 2009 at 20:06:13 in Business

“Well, there is God, and then there are false gods humans invent to justify the wicked path they take in life made of their own misuse of free will, egotism and a pervserse desire to make the world in their own image. Thus is the problem of humankind: there is a just loving God and no other God. But humans refuse to believe because it does not suit with their own conceit and selfishness.”

dogman44 replied on Nov 07, 2009 at 20:31:54

“Why are you so sure there is a god? There is no credible evidence that points
in that direction.”
Jesus, Karaoke, And Serial Killers: The Funniest Venn Diagrams The Web Has To Offer

Jesus, Karaoke, And Serial Killers: The Funniest Venn Diagrams The Web Has To Offer

Commented Nov 07, 2009 at 16:19:22 in Comedy

“And thanks for showing off your lack of them!”
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