“I sadly have mostly gone as well. I actually closed my account for a short time, but then opened it because I was hoping that HuffPost would see the error of their way. I haven't really found anything yet to replace it. Enjoyed the interactions and conversations we've had over the years.”
“I closed my account, but couldn't stay away. I haven't been commenting but I have been reading comments. It was a great pleasure to spend time in the community and meet people like you. I wish HuffPo had not decided to trash it's long-term viability for short-term gain, but such is life. I must say I'm having withdrawal symptoms. I've been trying out various other places like HPRefugees over on NewsVine, but I can't say I like the site or how it works much at all. I enjoyed the good conversations, but I also enjoyed the arguments because I hoped I could persuade a few people to realize they are wrong just as I was finally able to realize my own errors.
Thanks for the well-wishing and I want to extend my own to you.”
“As a person who was a Christian (a born-again fundamentalist Christian) who is now an atheist, you have no idea who or what atheists are. I do not hate god because it's ridiculous to even consider hating that for which there is no evidence. If you provide real and verifiable evidence for the existence of your god I'll believe; until then it's dishonest to believe.”
Maezeppa on Jun 22, 2014 at 14:26:37
“Bob - in case you ever return and read this, just know I enjoyed 'knowing' and exchanging posts with you. Now that Huffpo has pretty much trashed the community aspect to its forum, it's not the same. Be well.”
“Frequently not the 1st Amendment. I listen to Bryan Fischer sometimes while I'm driving and he is rabidly opposed to the true spirit of the 1st Amendment. He believes it applies only to Christians. Unfortunately, he has many thousands of followers around the country.”
“I can vouch for that. I've lived in the Deep South for more than 20 years now, but I grew up in central Pennsylvania. The only time I ever saw a cross being burned by the KKK was in a meadow less than 5 miles from my boyhood home.”
“Marriage is a stabilizing force in society. Our society long ago decided that ALL married couples qualify for the benefits of marriage, not just those with children. This is right because society benefits from couples being married, including gay couples.”
GeorgeLC on May 16, 2014 at 15:45:22
“How does society benefit from couples being married? Society benefits from the addition of new members and form the couples' assuming the care and socializing of their children without additionally burdening society.
Why should couples or groups have tax breaks if they are already saving by living together and sharing costs? If they are raising children or dependent adults, then they need some consideration for their extra expenses. That is justice. People who just want a tax break without a special need are just greedy.”
“I don't think you'll find that any place in the gospels. It's only Paul who says such a thing that I'm aware of. Matthew is certainly a very Jewish gospel and it was assumed that Christians would still be under Jewish law in Matthew. Besides. I get really tired of this business of picking and choosing as to what parts of the old testament Christians will accept. Either accept the whole kit and caboodle or none of it. I';m not longer a Christian so I don't base any of my life on the bible anymore, and I'm a much better and more moral person for getting rid of it.
Please show me where Jesus said that he released his followers from the law.”
billyf1710 on May 15, 2014 at 19:34:45
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Jesus lived a sinless life and died on the cross to fulfill the law and release humanity from having to sacrifice perfect lambs to God for forgiveness. Fulfilling the law doesn't mean that the entire Old Testament is worthless, it means that man now has to trust in the completed work of Jesus dying on the cross for forgivness of sins. Animal sacrifice would no longer be accepted by God only the sacrifice of Jesus would be accepted. The Ten Commandments are still in effect as are many other Old Testament laws that don't deal with sacrifice for sins. That is the majority of Old Testament law because it was given to the Jews as a way for them to gain forgiveness from God because Jesus had not yet died on the cross.”
“The god of the bible does change with the times and that's from the bible. In the old testament god is vicious, vindictive, petty, jealous, and homicidal. In the new testament he's still those things but less so on the whole. The whole works versus grace dilemma is a perfect example of god changing. Even the new testament is not consistent without itself on the issue of works versus grace. Just think Paul vs James.”
billyf1710 on May 15, 2014 at 18:14:03
“You are mistaking God changing to Jesus becoming an advocate for those he died for. After the death of Jesus we are living in the age of Grace. Prior to Jesus dying men were forced to live by the Old Testament law, Jesus fulfilled the law and released us from it.”
“Marriage tends to confer stability on society in general. Your argument is that children are the primary reason for marriage and therefore gay couples should not be allowed to get married. This argument has been presented and debunked countless times.”
stereoguy316 on May 16, 2014 at 07:03:30
“Funny, I would say it has been presented and confirmed countless times. Children are the reason that the government recognizes marriage, plain and simple. If any kind of marriage is good for society then why not let someone marry more than one person or let that 30 year old man marry that 15 year old girl that he loves. Marriage has always had rules and you just want to break one.”
“That is not true. I do not believe there is a god, but that is not the same as believing there is NOT a god. I see no reason to believe in the existence of a god without some compelling evidence, which is lacking. I do not, however, assert that there is no god; I am not that arrogant. Therefore, I would be properly defined as being an agnostic atheist. Lack of belief is not a belief.”
“Oft repetition of an inaccurate and completely fabricated argument makes it no more valid. Just because you keep making the same debunked and silly arguments over and over does not make them any more true.”
“All legal marriages in the United States are civil unions. They are made under a license from the state. Why is this so hard for you to understand? And gays do NOT have civil unions in all places in the states. Additionally, civil unions as defined for gays are not analogous to marriage and thus are a case of separate and unequal. This is prohibited under the Constitution, as defined under the SCOTUS case: Brown v Board of Education.”
“You obviously know nothing about your topic here. As a person who was once a born-again fundamentalist Christian who is now an atheist, I have no religious beliefs of any kind. You are way out of your depth here.”
Josh RRRRR on May 14, 2014 at 16:23:25
“As an atheist you "believe" there is no God. You live your life accordingly.”
“My daughter and son-in-law got married by his father in a garden on a university campus. There was nothing religious about the ceremony, and even though his father is a preacher there was no prayer of mention of god by both their requests, as both my daughter and son-in-law are atheists. Marriage is not a religious institution in the United States; it is a civil union. Weddings can be religious in nature; weddings are not marriages.”
Josh RRRRR on May 14, 2014 at 16:24:26
“Gays already have civil unions. Not what we're talking about here.”
“My marriage to my wife was never about having children in the first place. We married because we loved each other and wanted to spend our lives together. Our children were simply a nice fringe benefit, not the reason for the marriage.”
stereoguy316 on May 15, 2014 at 07:04:18
“I didn't mean people get married for children. I meant the government recognizes marriage and gives tax breaks to married couples because of children.”