“Why so sour? The op has a point, old artifacts are found every day. What makes this one so special?”
Robert Eckert on May 27, 2014 at 17:51:28
“Old artifacts from Siberia, a region which for obvious reasons had very low population density in ancient times, are found very very seldom, as you would know if you read the article.”
Holofernes on May 27, 2014 at 16:33:26
“That you see nothing of interest in ancient artifacts from extinct cultures is one thing, but to advertise it as if the world revolves around your disinterest is petty, childish, and in Dorado's case appears to be nothing more than attention seeking behavior. Now, to answer your question, try reading the article.”
“Any exaltation is silly whether the person was real or not.”
Protocolor on May 26, 2014 at 10:03:54
“Oh, come on! It is just a nickname that stuck. Do you get this bent out of shape over people calling the guys who framed the US Constitution as "The Founding Fathers"? Gautama was a popular teacher in his period who was unusually thoughtful, perceptive, and bright; in other words, "enlightened". He said a lot that was actually recorded by real students who took notes, and many people still find value in what he said. Some people may go a little overboard on it, but very few think the guy was magical or anything. He was one of humanity's great philosophers, like Socrates (who is referred to as "The Great Teacher"), or Confucius (who is called "The Great Sage"). These guys deserve to be respected, but they never asked to be worshiped.
We in the West would do better by spending more effort "exalting" folks who were great teachers and mere mortals, rather than fictitious immortal magicians who demand worship.”
“Irrelevant. It's all the SAME thing: superstition!”
Protocolor on May 26, 2014 at 08:43:17
“Actually, there are piles of evidence that a man named Siddhartha Gautama, who was given the title "Buddha", or "Enlightened one", actually existed. Buddha isn't just some Eastern way of saying "god". Buddha didn't do magic. Buddha didn't create the universe. Buddha doesn't watch you masturbate in the bathroom. He was just a man who lived, then died.”
“"Well, let's just assume that we are and let's protect our religious liberty.'
Yeah, protect what we believe and "feel" is correct. If anyone doesn't think the way we think then they are wrong, and we will do ANYTHING to make them think the way that we do. What a hippo-oh-krit.”
“I just finished a study program on the Catholic faith and a Bible study on Matthew. I think the books presented in both were the right books. Show me a book on the Catholic faith that presents doctrines that you can articulately argue are both rubbish and utter nonsense.”
“Yes, there is evidence for the first conjecture of "for billions of years we have all existed as energy" if we assume that the atoms of our bodies were created in stars which were derived from the original Big Bang we actually did exist as energy. There is NO EVIDENCE for the remaining conjectures made.”
umannyt on May 18, 2014 at 17:21:51
“Thanks for making the distinction.
"There is NO EVIDENCE for the remaining conjectures made."
Isn't it more intellectually honest to state, in this case, that "I BELIEVE there is no evidence" than to categorically state with absolute certitude that "there IS no evidence"?””
“I HAVE researched it. Since the burden is on you to provide the evidence, i will wait for your proof of the following:
1) That for billions of years we have existed as consciousness;
2) we freed ourselves to go back to the cosmos;
3) that we are spiritual beings having a human experience.”
“You are making a HUGE assumption in the first place that demons actually exist. Do you have concrete evidence that demons do exist? Otherwise there may as well be a conference on Voldemort and it would be no different.”
“The zaniness and inanity of an Exorcism Conference is no different than Scientologists holding a conference annually on how the essences of the people brought to earth from Xenu 75 million years ago (on a DC-8 no less) were affecting the souls in people of modern times. It's insanity!!”
JoeFoonman on May 16, 2014 at 11:12:51
“How does anything you said make sense?
Most people that believe in Christ are intelligent, rationale people.
If you believe in Christ, then you find out what he said and taught.
The existence of evil, satan and hell were very much things that he taught and talked about often as part of the reality of what people need to deal with.
Remember the line from "The Usual Suspects" - "The
greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"
Some people like to mock and speak authortatively about things they have taken little serious time to study. Ironically, they believe so much in their intellectual superiority to what they ignorantly label as silliness, that they themselves are the ones that lack insight.”
William SR on May 13, 2014 at 18:23:28
“Except that Scientology is almost wholly irrational. The existence of evil, however, is quite evident.”
“Is evil more than just the decision of certain people to do bad thing?. If one looks at the many atrocities that dominate so much of human history over the last 150 years can these horrific events be explained in rational terms?. In fact is not the whole idea of a rational universe threatened by the chaos, and incomprehensibility of the mysterious and awesome power of evil?
Were the causes economic, social, psychological, ideological, . No modern body of knowledge can even begin to explain such evil. No I think the only explanation is that evil has an advocate that has a personality and is willfully and knowingly pump-priming mankind's evil acts and taking them to higher levels of existential expression. He is legion and has agents that sometimes invade our very bodies.
Do you have another explanation. I would be interested in your theories on the matter, on the question of evil.”
arabia on May 14, 2014 at 11:04:39
“"They actually have exorcism conferences?"
Possibly because the first lesson of contemporary history seems to be that the Evil One or Evil incarnate is good, that there is some source of goodness in the demonic (that needs to be distilled out of it). I wish I were free to be able to attend one of these conferences. One question I would ask the experts is: do we learn more from the sight of the demonic or Evil than from an example of goodness in society? Also: is much that is demonic really good in disguise? What are the compensations for the demonic? Just listening to their responses would be interesting. I know Norman Mailer wrestled with some of these questions as do many today.”
William SR on May 13, 2014 at 18:20:09
“Pretty dire topic. They have them every year to make sure they have the best soldiers at the front lines.”
ladycrisperfst on May 13, 2014 at 14:37:24
“I know, it a sad state of affairs when any part of humanity forgets it not about us and there is no understanding that a title does not make you righteous or filled with God’s Holiness. Peace.”
jtruitt on May 13, 2014 at 14:17:34
“Yes, they have a great workshop on removing pea soup stains from ceremonial garments.”
“Huh? And I have an overly simplistic view? Clearly there are some scientists that are more brilliant than others. Some very few can come up with truly rare insights, while other researchers can simply be productive and advance their science through basic progress. And faith has nothing to do with it. Why is that a simplistic view?”
“"The greatest obstacle in the science/religion debate is sheer ignorance on both sides of the other's true position."
1. There is no debate. Science stands on its own. Religion is like an annoying gnat that needs swatting occasionally by science.
2. Science is ignorant about a god as it is ignorant about heffalumps, ogres, pixies and unicorns. Why should science waste time on every little thing weak humans claim to exist. It would be a colossal waste of scientists time (much better spending effort on the latest vaccines and cures that could one day save your life).”