“The road you drove on and the schools you went to were paid for by your taxes. They are no worse or better than the DMV. Your side starves govt. (and the people) of the money and resources needed to run services properly. Then you complain govt. doesn't work. That's crazy and sick. I just went to the DMV last week, I went to the one in the next town instead of my city because I know they are faster and more pleasant. They solved all my problems easily in 5 minutes. That DMV talking point is hilarious. It shows how little the GOP and its fans understand about making govt. work. You give the resources and the oversight to make it work, and you get very good DMV service. On the other hand, if you act like an entitled jerk (every republican) and deprive the DMV of enough money and resources to manage properly, you get bad service. It really is that simple, and it's a simple living example of how things really work.”
“Where does that begin and end? How much should an employer know about your private medical care? How much control should an employer have over your health care choices? This is about more than birth control and abortion, as soon as any entity can say they don't like something, a person can die from lack of that denied care. This really is the wrong moral side of the debate, to deny care is wrong.”
“I agree with you completely, and I'm a liberal/progressive. And there are illegal points of attack against healthcare.gov and they should be prosecuted. The only thing I don't agree with is the excessive fine for the truck driver. It should be a reasonable penalty, not over the top as this is, which some other judge will strike down as excessive.”
“No, the point is whatever you want it to be. But here's the reality, it's illegal to overwhelm a website with point of attack campaigns. That means a bunch of republican dirty tricksters are also going to get busted and pay fines for what they've done to healthcare.gov. BTW, these RW attack artists came out and told people they were going to do it and for others to do it. So when those folks get busted, you'll agree that they should pay their fines too, right? The only thing wrong in this case is that the guy had to overpay on a fine that wasn't commenserate to his crime. That's what bothers people on the left, it should be a reasonable fine and punishment. That's where it gets into questioning the intentions of the GWB appointed judge, as he went too far in the punishment. I would think anyone reasonable would agree with that. Judging from your tone, I doubt you're willing to be reasonable in this discussion.”
Dec 3, 2013 at 02:51:29
“Your link goes to the wiki page on Illinois. It doesn't go to the 4th district. How do you expect any of us to take the rest of what you say seriously when you give us a bogus link to back up your claim about the Gutierrez district.”
Dec 3, 2013 at 02:45:49
“You must not live here as you display no understanding of CA at all, or the most liberal states. Vermont, without question, is the most liberal state by all measures of the legislation and living conditions that state has created. CA is nowhere near that, it's a corporate center left that runs the state, what some might call 'moderate' in comparison to the most liberal states. The only thing that is truly liberal is the lack of a moderate republican party, a party so extreme here that it can't hold enough seats in the leg or statewide to be of significance.”
magicguy on Dec 3, 2013 at 14:02:31
“LOL, I live in and retired in California for 55 years. Moderate my foot, it has the widest gap in income of the nation, 23% of the state lives in poverty, it is over run by illegals, the unfunded pensions obligations are in the billions. Look at Detroit, LA and the state in general are on that same path. There is NOTHING moderate in this state and all due to democratic policies in place for decades. It is time to pay the piper.”
“You're 100% wrong. You really sound ridiculous saying that folks losing policies is worse than abused children not being protected properly. It's beyond the pale, a comment like that.
Now, about the cancelled health plans. You're repeating a talking point that has been proven false. That is, any new plan in the ACA exchange is garaunteed in benefits and can't be cancelled by the ins. co. for any reason other than fraud for the duration of the plan, usually a year. Now the plans that are being cancelled are from before the ACA and they could be cancelled anytime, like when you need them for a health problem. Grok that, it really is a ridiculous talking point. But you saying that's worse than abused kids not being investigated and protected. Really?”
“All of Congress has it. Not sure why you're making a pointless complaint. This is all about affordability and garaunteed benefits. Pres. Obama has the income to purchase a quality plan. The great thing is, now people can get one just like it on the exchanges.”
“You sure can keep your doctor if you're not stupid. All you have to do is go off panel, get a plan that lets you do that.”
kingguy on Dec 1, 2013 at 09:24:13
“or pay your own bills and just go to any doc you please.”
wishstar50 on Dec 1, 2013 at 05:19:14
“That means outside the exchange, with a private policy, because very few of the top doctors are in the exchanges. If you have a doctor who is not a top doctor, you may find him or her in an exchange.”
“Why? Because of race? Because of delivering affordable health care?”
kingguy on Dec 1, 2013 at 09:23:07
“yes you got it , both your points THATS WHY there is only one race human or are you one of those racist bsssssstardisssss”
G Braines on Dec 1, 2013 at 09:06:33
“He is not delivering AFFORDABLE health care to me. so I guess because of ACA (period). And don't forget the IRS and other scandals.”
locnar70-1lives on Dec 1, 2013 at 07:18:24
“Ok you lose already pulling the race card,but no its not the fact that he is half white its the fact that he is a horrible potus”
Tekriter on Dec 1, 2013 at 05:37:49
wishstar50 on Dec 1, 2013 at 05:17:54
“Quit playing the race card.
1) The insurance is not affordable. Premiums for the young and healthy are high, and then add to that the deductibles and copays. Even if a young person managed to get a policy for $100 a month, with a $5000 deductible, if he or she goes to the doctor, it is actually costing $500 a month or more.”
“Gee, I don't know, how many chances did we give Reagan, GHWB and GWB? They all outdid Pinnochio. Now, about the so called lie about keeping your insurance plan. The irony is, that now under the ACA, Obamacare, if they all got new plans through the exchanges, those are REQUIRED not to be able to be cancelled. So you're complaining about something ridiculous. The right to keep a plan from the old system when they could cancel you ANYTIME. Great features before the ACA, huh? So your complaining is DISINGENIOUS.”
“Maybe some of the difference you feel has to do with the difference between sending people to die in two needless wars and tanking the economy versus providing affordable health insurance to all. To hard to comprehend, eh?”
2351 on Dec 1, 2013 at 08:28:03
“There are those who will never comprehend this. Sad, isn't it?”
larrysorrell on Dec 1, 2013 at 04:55:51
“Comprehend this. We don't like Obama and oppose everything he tries to do. It will get much worse before it gets any better. Arrogance breeds contempt . . . every time.”
“Oh no!! My hands are wringing. Heavens to betsy, what will we do when preexisting conditions scam is outlawed, and affordable insurance for all is a reality? We will have to find every little thing to complain about!!”
widvasqu on Dec 1, 2013 at 09:44:46
“So force everyone to pay a higher premium? Only a shallow mind calls that reform.”
lightbreeze on Dec 1, 2013 at 06:46:34
“1. "affordable insurance for all" Obamacare doesn't insure everyone. In fact, it leaves over 30 million uninsured.
2. "affordable" ? For some, not for countless others.”
ssgooent on Dec 1, 2013 at 04:50:48
“Define affordable as it pertains to the middle class.”
Rob Haynes on Dec 1, 2013 at 02:31:56
“I would agree with it if the bill proposing it is an honest one.
Fact of the matter is Government can't seem to do anything right but kill people.
so if you want to put your health into the hands of openly known liars and cheats you go right ahead. I will not partake and I should have that right as well.
this is America right?”
“You don't know how to read or google? Carter: diplomacy, Habitat for Humanity; Clinton those both also. You didn't know? You've been living under a Fox rock then.”
Purposeful Contrarian on Nov 30, 2013 at 12:50:53
“Clinton earned 13.4 million on speaking engagements in 2012. Try again.
Carter charges 50k per engagement but isn't in demand much anymore.”
Purposeful Contrarian on Nov 29, 2013 at 20:44:24
“Carter was a freedom advocate...If you think you're progressive and don't know then you should be ashamed”
TeeEmTee on Nov 29, 2013 at 20:34:21
"In what was probably his most memorable act of charity, 2001 saw him stand up in the House chamber and ask for $15 billion to be donated towards helping Africa and the Caribbean ‘turn the tide of aids’. During his term in office, the cost of antiretrovirals, medication for the treatment of HIV, dropped from $4000 to $125 a course. The number of Africans on the medication went from 50,000 to 2.1 million. Not only did Bush push for action from the USA, he persuaded other first world countries to do the same. It is widely recognised that George W. Bush saved around 10 million lives with his work against AIDs.
An ambassador for world change, Bush became the co-founder of the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund, a charity focused on ‘building back better’ after the devastation of the 2010 Haitian earthquake. The short-term goal of rebuilding the communities and lives of residents still continues but now focus has shifted to creating economic opportunities for locals which will help sustain re-growth long term."