“How stupidly you continue to ignore the facts. It was the Dems of THE 1960's that supported civil rights. It was the Dems of THE PREVIOUS CENTURY that did not. See how that works. The Dems & the Pubs reversed on this issue over time.”
“Yep, still cannot stand this ''man''. Institutionlized racism compared to healthcare coverage that's attempting to help millions. He needs to go to school to learn what the word ''comparison'' means.”
beyondliberal on Dec 6, 2013 at 14:16:46
“I hear "compassion" is just a couple of words after "comparison" in the dictionary. He may want to look. (but I won't hold my breath...)”
“Please, get a prescription for some happy pills to decrease that paranoia.”
Timothy Osman on Dec 5, 2013 at 11:08:00
“Are those the same pills that the citizens of Germany, Russia, and China took before they realized they had no Liberty or safety before it was too late? I would suggest you study history a little more before you call someone paranoid. Unless of course you believe that tyranny is no longer possible because of how much the world has evolved in the last 50 years, which would show how naive and out of touch with reality you are.”
“I guess I simply cannot relate to the noblesse oblige of this country. I still don't think this superfluous custom will prevent someone from not marrying well. I still think it's horribly old fashioned and demeaning to the girls....rich or not rich.”
cafebeege on Dec 2, 2013 at 22:09:33
“No it's not demeaning to the girls. I'm from a long line of strong women who made strides in rights for women in this country. I've seen too many females NOT sent ENOUGH message that they deserve better. I'd like ALL little girls to see themselves as both strong AND deserving to be treated well. I'd like to see far better than too many "settle for" in our "culture/society."
And no, of course it doesn't guarantee they will "marry well". In fact, as my mother put it it could be construed as putting your daughter up on the auction block. And in reality drawing the opposite of what you might hope. (Also, in reality, many are not rich as most people assume. But from "old" families....;o)”
“I know it's nothing new. That's my point. The whole concept is archaic an shallow. Oh Heaven's! We MUST marry within our ''social class''. I say, good for your parents and grandparents to not put you on parade.”
cafebeege on Dec 2, 2013 at 14:35:53
“But doublels....if you stop and think about it, with people marrying at a much later age, they're exposure to people they'd have much in common with becomes far less in numbers after they get through school. Graduate degrees and all, people don't entertain as they used to, so these huge galas are the alternative. Otherwise they are limited to things like "the the singles bar scene", etc. Ecchhh.....gets boring, gruesome, and the dregs/users/fortune hunters are in there trolling for their future "meal ticket". NOBODY wants to be used.
These balls, deb or otherwise, were just a way of trying to screen out the ones who were looking to leech onto their daughters or sons. That's not a bad thing in that way. It's protective of their children. I've personally known more than one who have wound up in bad marriages because they realized too late that's all the other was looking for.”
“Debs? Debutantes? Debutante balls?!!!! I can't believe people still participate in that silliness. Ugh!!”
De Lee on Dec 2, 2013 at 15:05:21
“They still exist in the world of the Elites, and yes - it's chock full of Democrats - who prefer you don't notice as they chastise Republicans for the vulgar display of wealth and power they themselves lust after.”
cafebeege on Dec 2, 2013 at 02:08:14
“The idea has always been, at one time and now, that their daughters will marry to those of the same level of social class. Nothing new. And generally speaking it does work out better. My grandparents and parents did not choose it for us to make a statement. But I didn't resent friends who did. All these years later we are still friends.”
Green Brown on Dec 2, 2013 at 01:02:12
“these girls are teenagers, but still want to play childish games of dress up and 'princess'