Oct 26, 2013 at 10:08:34
“That's a lie. You can't treat people like dogs into the modern era and keep expecting them to finance businesses that treat them like second class citizens. If it happened to any other people (gay, Jewish) would you have a problem with this statement and then make your own?”
Oct 26, 2013 at 10:06:09
“So . . . the cops are psychic? They knew he was carrying an expensive purchase . . . somehow?”
zepov on Oct 26, 2013 at 10:15:38
“They were undercover. They may have acted unprompted. The article doesn't make it clear. And even if a Macys employee did voice suspicions to the cops, the suit seems to be based on the actions the cops took. Again, it could be the lack of detail in the article but nothing is mentioned about the possible actions of an employee.
FD - I see nothing wrong with an employee having suspicions about a person. To prove racism . . it would have to be that the employee has voiced suspicions *only* about black shoppers.”
Oct 26, 2013 at 01:28:04
“We're talking conviction rates. And as you can see from this story and others, when the only suspects the police are out looking for are of a certain color, guilt be damned, they'll find their man. There are stop and frisk figures that prove this. At the much smaller percentage that whites were stopped at, an overwhelming majority were actually committing a crime.
Perhaps if police, like you, would stop being blinded by stereotype, they might actually arrest true perpetrators of crimes and not imaginary bogey men.”
moderate1 on Oct 26, 2013 at 10:35:28
“So its your point that the blacks that are convicted of 50 pct of all murders did not actually commit those murders? Or is it your point that thousands and thousands of whites get away with murder?”
Oct 26, 2013 at 00:43:25
“Your comment is akin to saying most sunburn victims are white so we should watch black people for signs of sunburn. If whites are the majority of shoplifters then why would blacks be singled out for suspicion?”
moderate1 on Oct 26, 2013 at 01:08:19
“Because blacks are wildly more likely to commit crime than whites. Whites commit crime and theft at a rate lower than their percentage of population. So every white person you see is less likely to commit a crime than the population as a whole. Blacks commit crime at a rate well in excess of their percentage of population. For murder its 5 times their percentage. For theft its 3 times. So every black you see is 3 times more likely to steal than the population as a whole....and the population rate would be much lower if the black numbers werent skewing it upwards so heavily...”
"Most retail inventory loss statistics have shown that the majority of shoplifters to be of the Caucasian race. To concentrate surveillance on minority customers is not only improper, but is an ineffective method of controlling shoplifting losses at most locations."”
Shanda Smalls on Oct 26, 2013 at 10:22:59
“And we ALL pay the price for this from the mistreatment to the higher prices as consumers so we should all care groundless of race/color.”
hidenout3 on Oct 26, 2013 at 00:24:23
“There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
That's at Walmart. This is Macy's.
That's why profiling works. Different profiling for different situations, locales, etc.”
casey70 on Oct 26, 2013 at 00:20:56
“Thanks for the link!”
Vrim on Oct 26, 2013 at 00:20:28
“There are many Caucasians who have learned that the best time for the most unfettered shoplifting is while blacks are in the store.”
The JillyBean on Oct 26, 2013 at 00:12:02
“and the biggest source of "loss" is employees. So it's even stupider to focus on the black customers.”
Oct 25, 2013 at 19:25:20
“"Most retail inventory loss statistics have shown that the majority of shoplifters to be of the Caucasian race. To concentrate surveillance on minority customers is not only improper, but is an ineffective method of controlling shoplifting losses at most locations"
Oct 18, 2013 at 17:17:36
“"I'm not saying people who play loud music should die, BUT . . . Metallica fans . . . "
see how that works?”
Zilo on Oct 18, 2013 at 18:00:27
“Wasting time trying to get r.acists to see that. They lack the ability to reason well. They don't seem to understand that we can't just go around shooting people we dislike...if we lived in a society like that, ironically, most people would be taking out the r.acists FIRST. There are less of them than anyone else. So they should count themselves lucky that society doesn't think like them...”
pirx on Oct 18, 2013 at 17:36:42
“100 years ago - "I'm not saying people who play loud music should die, BUT . . . John Phillips Souza fans should be ..."
“If it was a 14 year boy who was raped by a 17 year old boy after sneaking out to attend a house party where there was drinking, then what? Tell me. Would you say he deserved it and he should have known what was going to happen?”