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One Year After Election Day: The Verdict on Obama
Commented Nov 02, 2009 at 14:22:20 in Politics
“Imagine if the new president had insisted on the sweeping and immediate changes that many of you are advocating. In addition to the immediate howling from the right, we would probably also hear from a good portion of the moderate center. The backlash would almost guarantee a fairly violent shift of the electorate in the opposite direction as soon as possible (i.e. 2010).
No, better to begin an incremental shift back toward government as beneficial to the people and away from the old Reagan "government is the problem" narrative the Republicans have been so successful in painting.
The majority of the American people do not want the pendulum moving violently from side to side, or stuck at either one extreme or the other. They like it swinging gently in the center third.”
No, better to begin an incremental shift back toward government as beneficial to the people and away from the old Reagan "government is the problem" narrative the Republicans have been so successful in painting.
The majority of the American people do not want the pendulum moving violently from side to side, or stuck at either one extreme or the other. They like it swinging gently in the center third.”
joebaggadonuts replied on Nov 09, 2009 at 18:32:03
“When the pendulum is falling on our heads, we would prefer it be shifted away to the side, please.”
One Year After Election Day: The Verdict on Obama
Commented Nov 02, 2009 at 14:21:31 in Politics
“Imagine if the new president had insisted on the sweeping and immediate changes that many of you are advocating. In addition to the immediate howling from the right, we would probably also hear from a good portion of the moderate center. The backlash would almost guarantee a fairly violent shift of the electorate in the opposite direction as soon as possible (i.e. 2010).
No, better to begin an incremental shift back toward government as beneficial to the people and away from the old Reagan "government is the problem" narrative the Republicans have been so successful in painting.
The majority of the American people do not want the pendulum moving violently from side to side, or stuck at either one extreme or the other. They like it swinging gently in the center third.”
No, better to begin an incremental shift back toward government as beneficial to the people and away from the old Reagan "government is the problem" narrative the Republicans have been so successful in painting.
The majority of the American people do not want the pendulum moving violently from side to side, or stuck at either one extreme or the other. They like it swinging gently in the center third.”
NJ Law Enforcement Appear to Contradict Dobbs' Version of Gunfire Incident
Commented Oct 30, 2009 at 14:54:17 in Media
“your comment is soooo 1970's. Even Lou has repackaged that old bogeyman into the new "illegal immigrant" threat.
Rich White Men will never--and I mean NEVER--truly be threatened by "welfare recipients" until they organize into a cohesive bloc. (That's one reason they hate ACORN so much)
Unfortunately, most of the lower and middle class are too busy right now "just getting by" from paycheck to paycheck (or unemployment check to unemployment check, or food pantry box to food pantry box).”
Rich White Men will never--and I mean NEVER--truly be threatened by "welfare recipients" until they organize into a cohesive bloc. (That's one reason they hate ACORN so much)
Unfortunately, most of the lower and middle class are too busy right now "just getting by" from paycheck to paycheck (or unemployment check to unemployment check, or food pantry box to food pantry box).”
NJ Law Enforcement Appear to Contradict Dobbs' Version of Gunfire Incident
Commented Oct 30, 2009 at 13:49:52 in Media
“Just another piece of evidence in the growing list....
Beneath the outrage they feel at the "threat" of being deprived of their "rightful position" at the top of the food chain, there is more than a little fear that they may be facing a future where they have to exist on a more level playing field with women and minorities.
And it is driving them to distraction, madness, derangement and outright menacing of the rest of the population.
These poor, poor, endangered rich white men!”
Beneath the outrage they feel at the "threat" of being deprived of their "rightful position" at the top of the food chain, there is more than a little fear that they may be facing a future where they have to exist on a more level playing field with women and minorities.
And it is driving them to distraction, madness, derangement and outright menacing of the rest of the population.
These poor, poor, endangered rich white men!”
Matrsnot replied on Oct 30, 2009 at 14:27:07
“As adverse to the unendangered welfare recipients.”
roshni replied on Oct 30, 2009 at 14:11:24
“Fanned!”
To al-Qaeda's Cheers: Dick Cheney Is Running, Will Be the 2012 Republican Nominee
Commented Oct 19, 2009 at 13:51:16 in Politics
“Why it won't happen:
1978 : Dick Cheney suffers his first heart attack.
1984 : Cheney suffers another attack -- his third before his 48th birthday
2000 : Cheney checks into George Washington University Hospital with chest pains.
2001 : Cheney checks into George Washington University Hospital with chest pain and discomfort
2001 : Cheney says he will undergo tests to determine whether he needs a "pacemaker plus,"
2001 : Cheney has surgery to implant a device to monitor his heart rhythm
Too much history and an implanted device = too much risk.
Hmmmm..... But what if he chose as his running mate another younger, more vibrant Cheney?
(.......eeeeeyyyaaaaaaiiii!) ..........runs screaming from the room!!!!!!”
1978 : Dick Cheney suffers his first heart attack.
1984 : Cheney suffers another attack -- his third before his 48th birthday
2000 : Cheney checks into George Washington University Hospital with chest pains.
2001 : Cheney checks into George Washington University Hospital with chest pain and discomfort
2001 : Cheney says he will undergo tests to determine whether he needs a "pacemaker plus,"
2001 : Cheney has surgery to implant a device to monitor his heart rhythm
Too much history and an implanted device = too much risk.
Hmmmm..... But what if he chose as his running mate another younger, more vibrant Cheney?
(.......eeeeeyyyaaaaaaiiii!) ..........runs screaming from the room!!!!!!”
steveobviously replied on Oct 20, 2009 at 12:34:17
“That device wasn't to monter his heart. it replaced it. He'll out strangelove Dr. Strangelove.”
AllShookUp replied on Oct 19, 2009 at 18:01:54
“Our very own Frankenstein monster.”
Why Obama Should Not Have Received the Peace Prize -- Yet
Commented Oct 12, 2009 at 13:21:04 in Politics
“I posted much the same argument last Friday on a different article and basically got trashed by some of the "true believers".
What about the very real travails of democracy advocates in Kenya or human rights advocates in Darfur? What about Burma? Would those people who have fought the good fight for years if not decades have been able to do more with the prestige of the award and with the financial award?”
What about the very real travails of democracy advocates in Kenya or human rights advocates in Darfur? What about Burma? Would those people who have fought the good fight for years if not decades have been able to do more with the prestige of the award and with the financial award?”
Nobel Committee, Strategic As Ever, Taps Obama for Peace Prize
Commented Oct 09, 2009 at 13:28:59 in World
“I sure would like to know who the other nominees were and who nominated Obama.
I understand your point, but I would still opt for a bit more actual accomplishment in a winner!”
I understand your point, but I would still opt for a bit more actual accomplishment in a winner!”
madatnewsmedia replied on Oct 09, 2009 at 23:42:57
“Well, I am glad that you weren't given an opportunity to vote!”
Supporting a Robust Public Option
Commented Oct 08, 2009 at 14:00:24 in Politics
“What America is, is a country with too many selfish and apathetic people whose motto is "I'm going to get mine and the h*ll with everyone else once I've got it." This is personified particularly by the current incarnation of the Republican party.
I don't know what it will take or if this country can pull together. Is it possible that the great melting pot is NOT better than the European countries many of us derived from?
I truly believe that the US is faced today with a watershed moment.
Is it possible that ethnic and nationality diversity prevents a country from being united and pulling for a common purpose? When faced with monumental crises, will we just dissolve into chaos and anarchy?”
I don't know what it will take or if this country can pull together. Is it possible that the great melting pot is NOT better than the European countries many of us derived from?
I truly believe that the US is faced today with a watershed moment.
Is it possible that ethnic and nationality diversity prevents a country from being united and pulling for a common purpose? When faced with monumental crises, will we just dissolve into chaos and anarchy?”
doratocerone replied on Oct 09, 2009 at 08:37:46
“Those of us opposed to the fed messing with health care are not necessarily selfish. It's just that we are still reeling from the results of the fed's "affordable housing" initiatives, and we don't want the same thing that happened to the housing market to happen to the health care industry. Remember, it was the poor who suffered the most from that government program.”
The Forbes 400 Shows Why Our Nation Is Falling Apart
Commented Oct 01, 2009 at 16:37:41 in Business
“All you plutocrat-defending posters, here' s a silly little question for you.
Which one of these do you think generates more $$ in our economy:
1. Gold plated bathtubs purchased by the top 1% of the obscenely wealthy
OR
2. Improving the household worth of the bottom 10% of people who could then go out and buy a tub surround at Lowe's.
It's just good economic sense to give more disposable income to the greatest number of people.”
Which one of these do you think generates more $$ in our economy:
1. Gold plated bathtubs purchased by the top 1% of the obscenely wealthy
OR
2. Improving the household worth of the bottom 10% of people who could then go out and buy a tub surround at Lowe's.
It's just good economic sense to give more disposable income to the greatest number of people.”
center1 replied on Oct 01, 2009 at 17:17:12
“There's nothing self-evident in your post. France has tried a variation of your proposal and their economy has grown 50% less since 1972 than ours (certainly not all attributable to wealth redistribution). In any case, while the bottom 10% may buy tub surrounds, the top 1% are more likely to invest the money (thereby generating more economic growth) or to buy something that requires an amount of labor (say, a house) more commensurate with the cost. A million dollar house is likely to generate more good paying labor hours than a $1M worth of tub surrounds.”
hippie chucker replied on Oct 01, 2009 at 17:00:25
“"give disposable income". How do you mean?
The tax income Leopold is so in love with, the (91% liberal revenge fantasy tax) would simply go to more government spending, not directly to the poor so that they can buy at lowes.
Of course, you completely ignore WHY we have so many lowes and home depots-because Americans are wealthy as a society. Unless you believe that the reason we have so many Lowes is because only the rich shop there.”
The tax income Leopold is so in love with, the (91% liberal revenge fantasy tax) would simply go to more government spending, not directly to the poor so that they can buy at lowes.
Of course, you completely ignore WHY we have so many lowes and home depots-because Americans are wealthy as a society. Unless you believe that the reason we have so many Lowes is because only the rich shop there.”
mrfreeze replied on Oct 01, 2009 at 16:49:34
“The plutocrat-defenders believe that we can continue to launder money, securitize debt and create NOTHING to generate "wealth." If this type of economics is truly "wealth creation" why has the market essentially contracted to 2000 levels? The U.S. economy has enriched a lot of people via an elaborate ponzi scheme. The wages of regular workers have remained stagnant for over 30 years now. We know that our "productivity" numbers are some of the highest in the world. Why then are regular folks not being enriched? The fix is in my friends.”
thnk4selfagain replied on Oct 01, 2009 at 16:49:04
“Absolutely, the defenses of trickle down economics here are intellectually deficient in every way.”
The Forbes 400 Shows Why Our Nation Is Falling Apart
Commented Oct 01, 2009 at 16:32:02 in Business
“Now who's being naive or downright misleading? People who build businesses do work hard, I give them that. But there are so many incentives, benefits, and advantages that are built into our system favoring the already wealthy and very few scraps, crumbs and picked clean bones left for the average American that the system is stacked against any Horatio Alger type making good in America.
Why do you think the "little guy makes good" stories are such news? It's because the odds are so long that someone can achieve that.
Imagine if we took even 1/10th of that 1.57 Trillion and used it to improve the lives of the bottom 10%. When you give people even a small piece of property to call their own or a small glimmer of hope for a better future, just watch them become better neighbors and citizens.
A RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS kind of thing.”
Why do you think the "little guy makes good" stories are such news? It's because the odds are so long that someone can achieve that.
Imagine if we took even 1/10th of that 1.57 Trillion and used it to improve the lives of the bottom 10%. When you give people even a small piece of property to call their own or a small glimmer of hope for a better future, just watch them become better neighbors and citizens.
A RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS kind of thing.”
Please Mr. President, More "Jackass" Outbursts
Commented Sep 15, 2009 at 16:43:54 in Politics
“Our president is capable and eloquent enough to reach out and slap them with a verbal velvet glove on an armored fist.
He should assert the power that the margin of his victory gave him.
You just can't be civil when your adversaries are a pack of howling jackals.”
He should assert the power that the margin of his victory gave him.
You just can't be civil when your adversaries are a pack of howling jackals.”
Sotomayor, Obama, and the Looming Republican Race Problem
Commented Aug 13, 2009 at 13:55:22 in Politics
“OK, apologies in advance to you open-minded Americans down south.
Wouldn't it just be easier to have a vote on the union and let some of the southern and outlier states secede if they so choose?
Once we draw that line, then anyone who wants to "cross over" to live in the "other" version of America would be free to do so.
Now, that's true choice.
Then after a few years or decades, that real world laboratory will prove which one is the best: the 21st century United States of America, or the "I want my country back in the 1950s" Republic.”
Wouldn't it just be easier to have a vote on the union and let some of the southern and outlier states secede if they so choose?
Once we draw that line, then anyone who wants to "cross over" to live in the "other" version of America would be free to do so.
Now, that's true choice.
Then after a few years or decades, that real world laboratory will prove which one is the best: the 21st century United States of America, or the "I want my country back in the 1950s" Republic.”
Senator Sanders Unfiltered: My New Online Show from Brave New Films
Commented Aug 10, 2009 at 16:50:35 in Home
“Yeah, 1000's and 1000's of individual voices being heard freely through access to the internet.
Which is precisely why, the large corporations will shortly have to get busy restricting access to it.”
Which is precisely why, the large corporations will shortly have to get busy restricting access to it.”
Elected Birthers on the Hill
Commented Jul 27, 2009 at 16:06:58 in Politics
“Wanda in Mississippi, you should not take it personally and don't blame southern hypocrites. There are plenty of like-minded birthers and racists in the North too. They just maybe keep it buried a bit deeper. The problem is that they have once again been given "permission" (by the media, and some politicians) to let it boil up to the surface.
Just shows you how quickly and easily a supposedly civilized society can devolve into chaos.”
Just shows you how quickly and easily a supposedly civilized society can devolve into chaos.”
Gates Says What A Lot of Us Are Thinking: You Prove It!
Commented Jul 25, 2009 at 17:09:50 in Politics
“You didn't answer: white man in a white neighborhood with white cops responding?
White men never have any idea that they are operating from a position of power automatically. Anyone else--white women, minority men, minority women, in that order--are treated differently.
You take your privileged position entirely for granted, therefore you cannot conceive that it would not be the same for everyone else.
P.S. I am a middle aged white woman, never been arrested, not even a traffic ticket. But I know what it feels like to be condescended to by white males who believe this is THEIR world.”
White men never have any idea that they are operating from a position of power automatically. Anyone else--white women, minority men, minority women, in that order--are treated differently.
You take your privileged position entirely for granted, therefore you cannot conceive that it would not be the same for everyone else.
P.S. I am a middle aged white woman, never been arrested, not even a traffic ticket. But I know what it feels like to be condescended to by white males who believe this is THEIR world.”
The Unteachable Lesson: Can We Learn From Gates and Crowley?
Commented Jul 25, 2009 at 16:22:30 in Politics
“If Crowley is so skilled in relations with citizens of all colors, answer this. When he had verified that Gates was the resident of the house, why didn't he merely apologize for bothering him and leave the home?
I just read the arrest report he wrote and I suspect that he may have wanted to draw Gates out of the house. Once out of the house, he could be arrested for making a public nuisance or what ever they call it in that jurisdiction. Plus his public handcuffing and subsequent walk to the cruiser is payback for being sassy.
I'm not saying it's racism, more a case of resenting the challenge -- cops love their position of authority, it's part of their DNA.
P.S. I'm a white middle aged woman, never arrested, never got a speeding ticket, but I know what it's like to be condescended to by male authority figures. I can only imagine what it's like to be a black man in that situation.”
I just read the arrest report he wrote and I suspect that he may have wanted to draw Gates out of the house. Once out of the house, he could be arrested for making a public nuisance or what ever they call it in that jurisdiction. Plus his public handcuffing and subsequent walk to the cruiser is payback for being sassy.
I'm not saying it's racism, more a case of resenting the challenge -- cops love their position of authority, it's part of their DNA.
P.S. I'm a white middle aged woman, never arrested, never got a speeding ticket, but I know what it's like to be condescended to by male authority figures. I can only imagine what it's like to be a black man in that situation.”
hp blogger Yvonne R. Davis replied on Jul 26, 2009 at 16:11:35
“Emcd,
I really appreciate your thoughts. I do believe this issue became a huge "authority" thing by the police officer and also a pride issue with regards to Gates - however, despite what has happened, it has racial tension all around it. I agree there was a "payback" thing going that the police officer did not even anticipate that this would become a Nationwide issue.
I only hope this issue of racial profiling can be finally dealt with once and for all.”
I really appreciate your thoughts. I do believe this issue became a huge "authority" thing by the police officer and also a pride issue with regards to Gates - however, despite what has happened, it has racial tension all around it. I agree there was a "payback" thing going that the police officer did not even anticipate that this would become a Nationwide issue.
I only hope this issue of racial profiling can be finally dealt with once and for all.”
Nice Try Mr. President; Hold The Beer & Get The Tape
Commented Jul 25, 2009 at 16:12:54 in Politics
“If Crowley is so skilled in relations with citizens of all colors, answer this. When he had verified that Gates was the resident of the house, why didn't he merely apologize for bothering him and leave the home?
I just read the arrest report he wrote and I suspect that he may have wanted to draw Gates out of the house. Once out of the house, he could be arrested for making a public nuisance or what ever they call it in that jurisdiction. Plus his public handcuffing and subsequent walk to the cruiser is payback for being sassy.
I'm not saying it's racism, more a case of resenting the challenge -- cops love their position of authority, it's part of their DNA.
P.S. I'm a white middle aged woman, never arrested, never got a speeding ticket, but I know what it's like to be condescended to by male authority figures. I can only imagine what it's like to be a black man in that situation.”
I just read the arrest report he wrote and I suspect that he may have wanted to draw Gates out of the house. Once out of the house, he could be arrested for making a public nuisance or what ever they call it in that jurisdiction. Plus his public handcuffing and subsequent walk to the cruiser is payback for being sassy.
I'm not saying it's racism, more a case of resenting the challenge -- cops love their position of authority, it's part of their DNA.
P.S. I'm a white middle aged woman, never arrested, never got a speeding ticket, but I know what it's like to be condescended to by male authority figures. I can only imagine what it's like to be a black man in that situation.”
wanttruth replied on Jul 26, 2009 at 16:39:25
“Well said.”
AntiSheep13 replied on Jul 26, 2009 at 00:20:02
“HuffPo cencoring is funny. I'll attempt another reply soon.”
AntiSheep13 replied on Jul 25, 2009 at 17:39:09
“The fact that Crowley was chosen by an A.American commissioner for teaching the class and being labeled as an EXPERT, is enough evidence for me that he is highly skilled. Why don't you condemn the commissioner for making his decision? To answer your question; Gates was already obstructing justice and conducting himself in a disorderly manner, prior to; during and after obtaining his ID. The cop still has a report to write, this is real life and not a television show.
"I'm not saying it's racism, more a case of resenting the challenge -- cops love their position of authority, it's part of their DNA."
That statement clearly exposes you for the discriminatory type of person that you are. And you don't even realize it. It also exposes your ignorance...You started your last post by injecting discrimination and in the same post you contradicted yourself. If you replace the word 'cops", in the above quote, with any race; Then you would be called every derogatory name in the world and possibly banned from this site, but for some reason you think it is ok to discriminate against law enforcement. That's some interesting hypocrisy that you exercise there.
Your closing statement displays your bitterness toward men. Get over it!!!Women can be condescending too. And not just female cops.”
"I'm not saying it's racism, more a case of resenting the challenge -- cops love their position of authority, it's part of their DNA."
That statement clearly exposes you for the discriminatory type of person that you are. And you don't even realize it. It also exposes your ignorance...You started your last post by injecting discrimination and in the same post you contradicted yourself. If you replace the word 'cops", in the above quote, with any race; Then you would be called every derogatory name in the world and possibly banned from this site, but for some reason you think it is ok to discriminate against law enforcement. That's some interesting hypocrisy that you exercise there.
Your closing statement displays your bitterness toward men. Get over it!!!Women can be condescending too. And not just female cops.”
Gates Says What A Lot of Us Are Thinking: You Prove It!
Commented Jul 25, 2009 at 11:19:52 in Politics
“That is NOT similar. Your brother was not entering his own house. How did you brother prove that it was his in-laws house? The cop's eventually acted with restraint in that case becuase he wasn't cuffed or arrested.
If that had happened to a black man, more often than not he'd be spread eagle on the ground and cuffed BEFORE they asked what happened.
Is your brother black or white? Is the neighborhood in question black or white?”
If that had happened to a black man, more often than not he'd be spread eagle on the ground and cuffed BEFORE they asked what happened.
Is your brother black or white? Is the neighborhood in question black or white?”
Jon Adcock replied on Jul 25, 2009 at 15:35:36
“Of course it's similar. In both cases the police were responding to a 3rd party report of a suspected home burglary in progress. It took my brother's wife to come down (who the neighbors recognized) to prove that he wasn't trying to rob the house. He didn't go to jail and the difference was that my brother kept his cool and didn't start yelling. He also didn't have a chip on his shoulder.”
Gates Says What A Lot of Us Are Thinking: You Prove It!
Commented Jul 25, 2009 at 11:02:36 in Politics
“"Read the report, people!"
Oh yeah sure because what the police officer wrote down has to be the g*d's honest truth, right?
The bottom line for me is, who has to handcuff a 58-year old, cane-walking professor in the middle of the day. What was this officer afraid of? Being hit with the professor's cane? Or being defied? And by the way, you dont' have to be black for a cop to over-react when he thinks his authority is being defied.”
Oh yeah sure because what the police officer wrote down has to be the g*d's honest truth, right?
The bottom line for me is, who has to handcuff a 58-year old, cane-walking professor in the middle of the day. What was this officer afraid of? Being hit with the professor's cane? Or being defied? And by the way, you dont' have to be black for a cop to over-react when he thinks his authority is being defied.”
John Ensign Linked To "Do-it-Yourself Exorcism" Movement
Commented Jul 14, 2009 at 11:54:20 in Politics
“Add one more:
(5) How old is the earth?
(Hint, answering 6,000 years old is an automatic fail!)”
(5) How old is the earth?
(Hint, answering 6,000 years old is an automatic fail!)”
Hollywooddeed replied on Jul 14, 2009 at 12:02:26
“When humans walked with dinosaurs.”
John Ensign Linked To "Do-it-Yourself Exorcism" Movement
Commented Jul 14, 2009 at 11:50:38 in Politics
“The problem is it is not just limited to GOP leaders. Look at the Dems who have either lived there or attended their events and praised them:
FL Dem Sen Nelson
Bill & Hillary Clinton were regular attendees at the National Day of Prayer and other events and regularly praised the organization.
Even President Obama gave an address to this year's National Day of Prayer
This whole thing is super creepy! We need a complete and total separation of any church for the state apparatus and total exposure of what these groups are doing under the cover of a religious organization.”
FL Dem Sen Nelson
Bill & Hillary Clinton were regular attendees at the National Day of Prayer and other events and regularly praised the organization.
Even President Obama gave an address to this year's National Day of Prayer
This whole thing is super creepy! We need a complete and total separation of any church for the state apparatus and total exposure of what these groups are doing under the cover of a religious organization.”
John Ensign Linked To "Do-it-Yourself Exorcism" Movement
Commented Jul 14, 2009 at 11:43:57 in Politics
“Is the nuttiness of these fundamentalist groups a logical extension of the need of folks to find a religion that offers them a moralistic platform to judge others, while giving them an "out" when they commit sin?
I read years ago that people were moving to these evangelical and fundamentalist churches because the traditional denominations like Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist were too rigid, judgemental, preached fire and brimstone etc.
Sounds like if you're in groups like The Family, you can moralize all you want but be excused for just about anything. Kind of the epitome of that old craptastic christian bumper sticker that just reeks of hypocricy and self-righteousness: "I'm not perfect, just forgiven"”
I read years ago that people were moving to these evangelical and fundamentalist churches because the traditional denominations like Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist were too rigid, judgemental, preached fire and brimstone etc.
Sounds like if you're in groups like The Family, you can moralize all you want but be excused for just about anything. Kind of the epitome of that old craptastic christian bumper sticker that just reeks of hypocricy and self-righteousness: "I'm not perfect, just forgiven"”
Don't Take the Bait
Commented Jun 24, 2009 at 17:36:54 in Politics
“Alec, my personal philosophy is that what each of us does in our personal life is our own business and no one elses.
Having said that, the reason Sanford and his ilk are NOT left alone when their infidelities are revealed is precisely because they are constantly moralizing and lecturing and intruding into the lives of others, when the Bible clearly says "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
When they stop their holier-than-thou stance then maybe people WILL leave them alone.”
Having said that, the reason Sanford and his ilk are NOT left alone when their infidelities are revealed is precisely because they are constantly moralizing and lecturing and intruding into the lives of others, when the Bible clearly says "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
When they stop their holier-than-thou stance then maybe people WILL leave them alone.”
Death at the Holocaust Museum and the Degradation of the American Dialogue
Commented Jun 11, 2009 at 21:19:40 in Politics
“Mr. Rowe: Your reference to a time when public discourse was conducted on a kinder, higher level is nice, but totally inaccurate.
The 30s had Father Couglin spouting antiSemitic nativist hatespeech to a national radio audience.
The 50s had HUAC accusing citizens of being reds and McCarthy crucifying people before Congress. You are right that Army Attorney Welch finally did have to ask whether he had any shame.
The 60s had race riots, bombings, racist whites yelling and screaming at blacks and Jews (I remember the anti Jew anti black vitriol spewing out of whites in Chicago's suburb of Cicero) and the "silent majority" complaining about hippies and anyone else who wasn't like them.
Then the hate speech went underground, and coded language took over. Saint Ronald Reagan merely had to speak in the south about states rights etc. and the haters would know what he meant and find their home in the Republican Party. Now that party is infested with hatemongers.
I could go on and on. Just want to point out that the currently flood of hate speech is nothing we haven't seen before and many times over. It's mankind's terminal perpetual disease that can only stay hidden for so long.”
The 30s had Father Couglin spouting antiSemitic nativist hatespeech to a national radio audience.
The 50s had HUAC accusing citizens of being reds and McCarthy crucifying people before Congress. You are right that Army Attorney Welch finally did have to ask whether he had any shame.
The 60s had race riots, bombings, racist whites yelling and screaming at blacks and Jews (I remember the anti Jew anti black vitriol spewing out of whites in Chicago's suburb of Cicero) and the "silent majority" complaining about hippies and anyone else who wasn't like them.
Then the hate speech went underground, and coded language took over. Saint Ronald Reagan merely had to speak in the south about states rights etc. and the haters would know what he meant and find their home in the Republican Party. Now that party is infested with hatemongers.
I could go on and on. Just want to point out that the currently flood of hate speech is nothing we haven't seen before and many times over. It's mankind's terminal perpetual disease that can only stay hidden for so long.”
DonL replied on Jun 11, 2009 at 21:49:46
“Can't argue with your facts. The difference, I think, is that the current dialog is so poisoned that the examples you cite, far from being exceptions, as they were then, are more and more mainstream. It is hard to keep from lumping all Republicans and all religious Christians into the category of hatemongers, liars, etc. but so much invective has been spilled that it is hard. These are sad times for America.
However, as much I want Obama to stop trying to work with them, I think that in the long run, simply stopping the cycle is the only solution.”
However, as much I want Obama to stop trying to work with them, I think that in the long run, simply stopping the cycle is the only solution.”
hipocampelofantocame replied on Jun 11, 2009 at 21:44:09
“emed: Perhaps it is now understandable why I am not just idly an atheist, but
actually an anti-theist. The religion doesn't bother me at all; it's the actual physical
and emotional harm for which it is responsible, and this is all religions. Why don't
we accept the fact that, "We are all very privileged owners of a brief spark of
consciousness."( cannot remember the author), and let it go at that. Or, perhaps,
if you must, believe in the rainbow bridge.”
actually an anti-theist. The religion doesn't bother me at all; it's the actual physical
and emotional harm for which it is responsible, and this is all religions. Why don't
we accept the fact that, "We are all very privileged owners of a brief spark of
consciousness."( cannot remember the author), and let it go at that. Or, perhaps,
if you must, believe in the rainbow bridge.”
flarg replied on Jun 11, 2009 at 21:37:21
“Hey, you forgot to mention all the good things that happened in those years. If we focused only on negatives of everyone, no one would look good. You invent this bullshit code word fantasy, yet black panthers physically oppress voters and the dipshit president allows it. It's a total disgrace, and so are you. There were plenty of whites screaming for justice in the 30s 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s and now, but that doesn'y matter to you because it allows your ignorant rants of hate you are afraid to face up to. Yeah, you could go on and on. So does a sewer. How about calling out the black muslim in the US who assassinated a white armed forces person IN THE US beause he is on a holy war because that's what muslims do? Why isn't that being called hate speech? Do some research, McCarthy was right.”
Tundrapat replied on Jun 11, 2009 at 21:30:33
“Actually, Army Attorney Welch asked McCarthy whether 'at long last, have you left no sense of decency.'
Yes, sometimes I do like to pick nits. Don't judge.”
Yes, sometimes I do like to pick nits. Don't judge.”
Mother's Day at an Abortion Clinic
Commented May 09, 2009 at 13:38:00 in Politics
“Talk about how it is a choice that women should have the right to make IN PRIVACY AND CONSULTATION WITH THEIR PHYSICIAN. Push for universal availability of contraception AND sane sex education so that abortion is NEVER anything but a last option. No one can determine for another person what choices they need to make in their lives. It is a horrible decision that no woman should have to make.
I can understand it because I have a family member who was 14 and pregnant and had one. I can understand it because I contemplated it myself when I was in dire straits and pregnant with my 3rd child. In my case I now have a daughter that is absolutely the light of my life. It brings me to tears when I think that I was even considering that choice.
But do NOT call abortion the "motherly choice." It is ABSOLUTELY not that!”
I can understand it because I have a family member who was 14 and pregnant and had one. I can understand it because I contemplated it myself when I was in dire straits and pregnant with my 3rd child. In my case I now have a daughter that is absolutely the light of my life. It brings me to tears when I think that I was even considering that choice.
But do NOT call abortion the "motherly choice." It is ABSOLUTELY not that!”
tbone99 replied on May 10, 2009 at 11:24:08
“Great that your CHOICE turned out so well,”
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